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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: cube_b3 on January 09, 2011, 05:52:10 am
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What do you guys think, worth playing?
It looks very shallow, it came out after PS2 so you think it should be better, but so far I am not excited. The characters don't have their pictures. It is all text.
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The uploader has skipped random battles, which look very excessive and boring.
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I played this, it was alright i Used an EMULATOR and sometimes had to use X2 speed to get through certain parts.
It's slow, I found the music slightly annoying at times...
All in all, I was satified it's one of the few good RPGS for the Genesis.
Didn't know it came out after the ps2..didn't know they were still making games for the GEnesis than lmao.
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When we use the acronym PS in this forum, we are usually talking about PHANTASY STAR, just like when we say WOW it is for WOW Entertainment andnot World of Warcraft.
I think this is typical of Yu Suzuki, all his emphasis was on technical aspects. This is no where near as good as PS2, 4, or even 3.
As much as I like Yu Suzuki I had to admit his games lack the fun aspect of other games, for example Virtua Fighter may have had the best technology but Tekken has always been more fun.
This game aside from lacking character icons and potraits lack depth, and have that singular Arcade feel of doing the same thing over and over with ranging difficulty.
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AM2 was put under pressure to make an RPG around the time Phantasy Star II was being made, so they did it, but you can tell nowhere as much heart was put into it as much as their other products.
It is unique, and I mean that. There is no other RPG out there truly like it, the bosses are even done in an interesting 2D style that has to be seen to be believed.
It was marketed as having over a hundred hours of content though, which is not true.
I personally do not like the game, but the soundtrack is really fantastic.
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As much as I like Yu Suzuki I had to admit his games lack the fun aspect of other games, for example Virtua Fighter may have had the best technology but Tekken has always been more fun.
You are so funny Cube.
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SoV is the only RPG I own for the Genesis (don't kill me! I wasn't into RPGs as a kid and since then I've gotten my Phantasy Star and Shining Force experience via handheld emulators and compilation discs!).
It's a real cool package, mine even came with the full color guide book and I believe there is a map inside. Early Genesis box art rules! The game itself is good. Not as great as Phantasy Star II, though I can't fault one internal dev team for not besting another internal dev team. Music is great, the 3D segments are cool and the title screen is wicked awesome.
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I can't stand it... I played it AFTER games like Phantasy Star 2 & 4 Shining Force 1 & 2 and Beyond Oasis which were all amazing games.
It just felt generic and dull.
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As much as I like Yu Suzuki I had to admit his games lack the fun aspect of other games, for example Virtua Fighter may have had the best technology but Tekken has always been more fun.
I guess I should expect this from the person who thinks Sonic 06 is good.
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Cube continues to show his general tastes are mostly the polar opposite of the SEGAbits old guard, news at 12.
Still Tekken more fun, bwhahahahaha! Comedy gold!
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I haven't played Sword of Vermillion since it came out. I hated the thing where you get poisoned and every step you take is one point of damage until you get cured.
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Played it a bit on an emulator, but never got back to it, whereas I beat Shining Force I and started II. It was enjoyable though, at least for me.
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I can't stand it... I played it AFTER games like Phantasy Star 2 & 4 Shining Force 1 & 2 and Beyond Oasis which were all amazing games.
It just felt generic and dull.
To me Sword of Vermillion was probably a game best played at it's time of release. At the time there weren't too many Genesis RPGs released, aside from Phantasy Star II, so I'm sure SoV was great fun in '91. Phantasy Star III didn't hit the USA until 3 months later, so I'm sure it was a good game to play inbetween the releases of PSII and PSIII.
Nowadays though, with all the great retro Lunar, Phantasy Star and Shining Force games to play, SoV doesn't hold up. However I don't think it's the game's fault.
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Those who played the game back in the day aren't fond of it either.
I give you Sega-16's head honcho's review:
http://sega-16.com/review_page.php?id=8 ... 0Vermilion (http://sega-16.com/review_page.php?id=855&title=Sword%20of%20Vermilion)
Nice Graphics, Awesome Sound, repetitive gameplay and the lack of character icons and story boards just kills the entire experience, I wanted to play it but now I see no point.
To date, Shenmue is the only Yu Suzuki game that enters my top 10 games of all time.
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To date, Shenmue is the only Yu Suzuki game that enters my top 10 games of all time.
Are there any other game directors that have multiple games in your top 10?
In all honestly Yu Suzuki probably only has one game in my top ten too, but I still love most of the series he has made.
Not only that Shenmue is the TOP of my top ten, by a country mile.
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Shenmue 2 would also be in my top 10 of all time ;)
I'd also stick Virtua Fighter 5 in there as it is my favorite 2-player fighting game. Suzuki wasn't involved in the way he was with VF4 (correct me if I'm wrong) but he did lay the groundwork for the series and VF5 wouldn't exist without him. So yeah, Yu gets 3 games on my top ten of all time list.
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To date, Shenmue is the only Yu Suzuki game that enters my top 10 games of all time.
Are there any other game directors that have multiple games in your top 10?
In all honestly Yu Suzuki probably only has one game in my top ten too, but I still love most of the series he has made.
Not only that Shenmue is the TOP of my top ten, by a country mile.
Honestly I've never really made a list of top 10 but if I would Rieko Kodama & Noriyoshi Oba have to have multiple titles on it.
Rieko Kodama: Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millenium, Skies of Arcadia.
Noriyoshi Oba: Streets of Rage trilogy (I shove them all in 1 slot, if I had to pick 1 i'd go with 3), Akujiki (Shinobi/Nightshade again shoving more than 1 game).
I don't know if Shenmue would be #1. I love the game and everything but I don't feel psychologically invested in all the characters.
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You like Streets of Rage 3 the most and you also prefer the 3D Shinobi games to the originals?
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Hindsight is such a beautiful thing. Yes if you played SHINING FORCE and PHANTASY STAR 2-4, BEYOND OASIS and then play SOV of course it will look lacking in comparison. But this game was really one of the early examples of RPG gaming for the MD and you got to judge it in relation to that. It was decent at the time, no masterpeice for sure but it doesn't deserve this bashing.
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To date, Shenmue is the only Yu Suzuki game that enters my top 10 games of all time.
No OutRun ????
To me the best racer ever made, even to this day . Daytona USA was brilliant too
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You like Streets of Rage 3 the most and you also prefer the 3D Shinobi games to the originals?
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Would you feel less castrated if I said I like Bare Knuckles 3 the most?
I haven't commented on the original Shinobi games don't infer :P. The Noriyoshi Oba MD series were perfect, but the Akujiki PS3 series were a start of something that's why I like them more, cause they make me think more. I like imaginig a story for the 3rd game, which would reintroduce Joe Musachi into the Akujiki arc rather than an unlockable non canonical character.
I've played both genesis games, they are great and perfectly concluded, fun games indeed but they don't have me emotionally invested as the PS2 series.
To date, Shenmue is the only Yu Suzuki game that enters my top 10 games of all time.
No OutRun ????
To me the best racer ever made, even to this day . Daytona USA was brilliant too
I'm not big on racers in general, I've found OutRun, and Hang-On as average at best, I actually played Hang-On on my megadrive and found it boring, I enjoyed it more in Shenmue more. OutRun I got no comment on I played it far too late, and I prefer Hang-On over it any day but to me it is like would you like to shove a mobile or a ds up your ass (okay that example is way to extreme).
I enjoyed After Burner, Space Harrier a lot on the genesis, but it isn't anything memorable or something I care to much about. I haven't played them on Arcades so I don't know if the experience is any better. They are average or good games at best in my opinion.
I hate Power Drift though, that game has a tiny race track and circling it makes me want to puke, would like to unlock the hang-on bike in it though.
Of all his racers including F355, I enjoyed 18 Wheeler: American Pro Trucker the most that game had a lot of personality and charm.
I personally think Yu Suzuki games have great technical qualities, but the whole fun factor is generally circling those technical features only. For example, I don't give a rats ass about Shenmue's "Ryo" story line. I think it is the same as Sonic's story line Chaos Emeralds replaced with Mirrors.
I am painting a dark EXTREMLY exaggarated picture here, I really like Suzuki Sama and have enjoyed all of his games that I played but my top 10 list of games would have to be more than a repetitive fast cognitive response based game and a more psychological emotional game.
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Sword of Vermilion is indeed 1 of my top 10 RPGs of all time (along with Phantasy Star II and Sorcerer's Kingdom).
What I love most is the ghotic BGMs, kept those soundtracks on my phone.
My favorite moment was when the king wouldn't let you out of city so couldn't make much progress.
You have to annoy him many times to make him mad and reveal that turned out he's not the real king.
He's an impostor.
He's one of the freaking dragons.
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Trivia : SEGA Mega Drive Mini in Asia gets Sword of Vermillion and OutRun 2019 as exclusives
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SEGA will also be selling the SEGA Mega Drive Mini in Asia, they promised the same amount of games as the rest of the regions. 40 games.
SEGA is only planning on selling the units as one SKU in that area with two controllers. So far Japan is the only place to have a cheaper, single controller bundle.
The two exclusives confirmed to the Asian version are Sword of Vermilion and OutRun 2019.
Article : http://segabits.com/blog/2019/04/02/sega-mega-drive-mini-in-asia-gets-sword-of-vermillion-and-outrun-2019-as-exclusives/
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SEGA Tunes: A look at SEGA AM2’s underrated Sword of Vermilion OST
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The soundtrack for this game is actually great.
Composed by Hiroshi Kawaguchi (After Burner, Out Run, and more) and Yasuhiro Takagi (Virtua Racing, F355 Challenge and more), both composers who where literally at the top of their game during this time period.
This game’s soundtrack is so diverse, just looking at the song titled ‘Statts’ on the start of the article and then listening to ‘Elias’ track above,
you can tell that the composers could go from having a moody dark track to a joyous, upbeat track at the drop of a feather.
Really shows you that these guys where really ahead of their game in terms of variety of sound.
Article : http://segabits.com/blog/2015/01/13/tuesday-tunes-a-look-at-sega-am2s-underrated-sword-of-vermilion-ost/
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SEGA's 60th Anniversary Celebration
Save 91% on SEGA Mega Drive and Genesis Classics BUNDLE on Steam
Over 50 classic games in one great bundle including Sword of Vermilion.
Offer ends 20 October 2020
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Link : https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/13945/SEGA_Mega_Drive_and_Genesis_Classics/
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Picross S: Mega Drive & Mark III Edition launches August 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTo0Bjf6v14 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTo0Bjf6v14)
Enjoy drawing nostalgic pixel art characters while solving Picross puzzles!
The compilation includes a total of 59 titles :
Action Fighter
After Burner
Alex Kidd in Miracle World
Alex Kidd in the Enchanted Castle
Alien Soldier
Alien Storm
Alien Syndrome
Altered Beast
Arrow Flash
Beyond Oasis
Bio-Hazard Battle
Bonanza Bros.
Columns
Columns III
Comix Zone
Crack Down
Dynamite Headdy
Enduro Racer
ESWAT: City Under Siege
Eternal Champions
Fantasy Zone
Gain Ground
Golden Axe
Golden Axe II
Golden Axe III
Kid Chameleon
Kung Fu Kid
Light Crusader
Out Run
Phantasy Star
Phantasy Star II
Phantasy Star III: Generations of Doom
Phantasy Star IV: The End of the Millennium
Puyo Puyo
Puzzle & Action:Ichidant-R
Puzzle & Action:Tant-R
Quartet
Record of the Bahamut War
Rent A Hero
Ristar
Shadow Dancer: The Secret of Shinobi
Shining Force II
Shinobi III: Return of the Ninja Master
Sonic & Knuckles
Sonic the Hedgehog
Sonic the Hedgehog 2
Sonic the Hedgehog 3
Sonic the hedgehog CD
Space Harrier
Space Harrier II
Streets of Rage
Streets of Rage 2
Streets of Rage 3
Super Hang-On
Super Thunder Blade
Sword of Vermilion
The Ooze
The Revenge of Shinobi
Turbo Out Run
Article : https://www.gematsu.com/2021/07/picross-s-mega-drive-mark-iii-edition-launches-august-5 (https://www.gematsu.com/2021/07/picross-s-mega-drive-mark-iii-edition-launches-august-5)
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Five SEGA Genesis/Mega Drive Games Get Added to Nintendo Switch Online Expansion Pass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXJPxi2wopM
These five games are Altered Beast, Toejam & Earl, Sword of Vermilion, Thunder Force II, and Dynamite Headdy.
Out of the five games, Thunder Force II is probably the most notable, as it was skipped over in favor of its two sequels Thunder Force III and Thunder Force IV with stuff like the SEGA Genesis Mini or the SEGA AGES series, until now.
Article : http://segabits.com/blog/2021/12/16/five-sega-genesis-mega-drive-get-added-to-nintendo-switch-online-expansion-pass/