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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Tad on February 10, 2016, 05:58:13 am
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Thought I'd make a thread about everything going on in the gaming world. I sadly have to start off with the bad news that Gametrailers.com has announced on twitter they will be shutting down.
It's sad, but also not surprising really. They started off by being the go to site for gaming videos, but they when they started taking things away from users, it quickly went downhill for me. I think for me the first sign of them going was when they were bought by another company. The big characters started to go and was replaced with what they have now.
For me, I think the standard in writing has been dropping in the media anyway, but it's still sad to see people lose their jobs.
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Newsflash: Gaming is dead.
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Newsflash: Gaming is dead.
Wwwhhhaaatt?!
Just seen on twitter from one of the older team members. He basically said it's no surprise they've fallen as when Ad Blocker become a thing, it took its toll on GT.
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And yet IGN and Polygon are still alive and kicking.
I love my Adblocker but they should kill the shitty gaming new sites, not the decent ones.
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It really is a shame. I don't usually bother with reviewers, but GT were there before YouTube etc and gave gamers the ability to see gameplay etc before many others. They hosted and streamed E3 every year and did a great job if it. Their look back and timeline series was great and well researched, while their team always showed a lot of passion in their work - you only have to see Bosman and Huber's reaction during the FF7 and Shenmue announcement. They rarely went for click bait nonsense too which is very rare nowadays.
As for others...
The UK IGN team are good and the only other one I know of is Keza Mcdonald from Kotaku. Polygon, US IGN, Kinda funny, Jim Sterling etc are all pretty poor. Sterling tends to have good editorials in the form of Jimquistions, but the rest is just click bait nonsense like the rest of them. At least others like Video Gamer UK say and know they're just a bunch of friends who enjoy playing games.
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Someone from this board pointed me to NicheGamer. God bless that poster. NicheGamer is my new home away from this board. FAO Gaming News sites period.
but back on topic: Gaming News. Well the only gaming news that I'm really interested in is how Sega's bringing JP properties westward again. Yakuza and Valkyria Chronicles have a firm footing in the west again. 7thDragon in English is going to be a thing now? Are you kidding me??? All we need is a good Sonic game and VF6 and Sega is officially on top again.
Too hyped for this new direction Sega is taking and perfect timing too as other publisher's offerings are either outright disappointing (SF5) or just flat-out uninteresting.
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Nichegamer is good, but I feel like Siliconera and Gematsu are superior for Japanese content. But Nichegamer is new, so it will improve in due time. Gaming.Moe is cool too. Shumplations.com does translations of old Japanese developer interviews that most people have never seen. Some great stuff.
Sadly one of my favorite blogs closed back in 2012, Andriasang.com. Fantastic coverage by the guy that ran it.
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Nichegamer is good, but I feel like Siliconera and Gematsu are superior for Japanese content. But Nichegamer is new, so it will improve in due time. Gaming.Moe is cool too. Shumplations.com does translations of old Japanese developer interviews that most people have never seen. Some great stuff.
Sadly one of my favorite blogs closed back in 2012, Andriasang.com. Fantastic coverage by the guy that ran it.
Shumplations.com ? What you meant is shmuplations.com, right?
As for me my favorite blog is senpaigamer, they only posted simple japanese-related gaming news and are a bit quicker than Siliconera and Gematsu.
The only drawback is its grammar. It's understandable though since it's being ran by a guy which english isn't his everyday language.
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^ correct.
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Only gaming sites i ever visit are n4g, SEGABits, and Sega Forum.
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I only read SegaBits and watch Classic Game Room.
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Xbox One could be upgradable like a PC: http://www.polygon.com/2016/3/1/11121666/xbox-one-hardware-upgrades-phil-spencer-microsoft
Ubi are preparing to defend a take over from Vivendi: http://www.destructoid.com/ubisoft-prepares-to-defend-itself-from-vivendi-hostile-takeover-345520.phtml
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The Xbox thing is really interesting. Either it could be a huge blow, or the exact evolution consoles need becoming similar to what phones do nowadays. Having all same compatibility, but performance and IQ depending on the hardware.
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I'm not against it, but if it is done it needs to be handled well and can't be an every year sort of deal I feel. Last gen lasted roughly 10 years, so I don't think it would be a big deal if they had 2/3 upgrades during that time. Small increments would just be a right pain I feel.
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Again, Sega proves to be ahead of its time with the 32X
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Why not just buy a PC? LOL
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Because that makes too much sense :P
No surprise, Mass Effect Andromeda delayed to 2017 Q1: https://youtu.be/n-2_MHXOG-A
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Beyond Good & Evil 2 rumoured to be NX exclusive funded by Nintendo: www.destructoid.com/rumor-nintendo-funding-beyond-good-and-evil-sequel-346059.phtml
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Don't fucking play with me. I've been waiting for a God damn sequel for far too many years.
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Super Nintendo roms are exclusive to New 3DS and Nintendo fans are backing up Nintendo on this, saying the regular 3DS is not beefy enough to properly emulate them. I have a New 3DS, but its nonsense. Sorry, if M2 and SEGA (who according to all Nintendo fans, is a shitty company) can get Power Drift, Streets of Rage 2 and fucking Outrun (at 60fps/double the speed) to work on OG 3DS, then the wizards at Nintendo should have NO ISSUES.
Also: Its $7.99 PER title. Meaning they will cost more than PSone games on PSN and unlike PSN, its only good for N3DS (plus no discount if you own the roms on the Wii U). While PSN lets you play your PSone ISO's across any Sony device.
But alright Nintendo fans, Nintendo is the best. According to GAF, its the price for perfect emulation... yet they haven't even played them yet... smh.
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Super Nintendo roms are exclusive to New 3DS and Nintendo fans are backing up Nintendo on this, saying the regular 3DS is not beefy enough to properly emulate them.
But....there's an unnoficial SNES emulator for the old 3DS, works just fine..
Hell, I've seen the old 3DS run 32X games
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(who according to all Nintendo fans, is a shitty company)
This is factual truth as I'm sure you have the numbers to back it.
But yeah, Nintendo was always shit at managing their old library store. Amazing games like Metroid Fusion were walled by some retarded conditions that barely anyone met so it's ridiculously rare seeing anyone with it.
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This is factual truth as I'm sure you have the numbers to back it.
(http://i.imgur.com/oaYLssu.jpg)
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But....there's an unnoficial SNES emulator for the old 3DS, works just fine..
Hell, I've seen the old 3DS run 32X games
This is proof enough that the N3DS exclusivity is just a method of selling more units, maybe getting those on the fence to make the jump. Although it is true the emulator wasn't perfect last I used it, I imagine it's seen a number of revisions and by year's end it'll be reporting good performance and majority compatability, assuming it continues being worked on like it is.
Though, do find it interesting they put EarthBound as a selling point for it.
Beyond Good & Evil 2 rumoured to be NX exclusive funded by Nintendo: www.destructoid.com/rumor-nintendo-funding-beyond-good-and-evil-sequel-346059.phtml (http://www.destructoid.com/rumor-nintendo-funding-beyond-good-and-evil-sequel-346059.phtml)
please god let me meet her
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But....there's an unnoficial SNES emulator for the old 3DS, works just fine..
Hell, I've seen the old 3DS run 32X games
Its funny cuz Nintendo fans are all raving about how everyone that says otherwise 'does not understand technical aspects of game development', its like all of a sudden they became developers overnight. Then when you bring up the fact that SEGA got Powerdrift to work fine, its because the "SNES hardware is more powerful". Yes, of course, arcades where always behind consoles. HOWDIDNTIKNOW.
What about SEGA adding extras like 3D to their Genesis/Arcade games? Its cuz Genesis is WAY LESS POWERFUL than SNES.
Then some of them finally admitted is because SEGA actually put in work to get the games to work and Nintendo didn't. Its funny, cuz if it was the other way around I don't think many people online would let SEGA hear the end of it. But Nintendo is always getting defended for being a lazy company.
Also they are literally charging more money for their lazy roms than SEGA is.
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as a big nintendo fan let me just say fuck snes games being exclusive to the n3ds. fuck that hard.
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So is Xbox done?
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So is Xbox done?
what? no.
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Microsoft close Lionhead and PressplayStudios: http://news.xbox.com/2016/03/07/microsoft-studios-changes-uk-denmark/
Fable Legends cancelled.
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After 3 crappy Fable 1 sequels, they stopped making them? Wow, burn the xboxes
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I liked Fable 1 and 2 despite Peter's best efforts to over hype and over promise. 3 was awful though.
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what? no.
It does really feel that way around me. I guess an anecdote doesnt mean anthing, but everyone is selling theirs after all recent news. I dont know if theyre making the right decisions.
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People are selling their Xboxes because of Fable?
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Been thinking (yes, I know), does anyone else think Microsoft are up to something?
It's no secret MS seem to be keeping the Xbox division at arms length, but I wonder if they're slowly fading it out to focus on the windows store? I'm sure they'll always be a cheaper "xbox" style console with the store, but with the recent news and now the two closers, I do wonder.
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Consoles are dead in the water
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Its crazy that they closed down Lionhead yet kept studios like 'Good Science', 'Launchworks' and even 'BigPark' who worked on Kinect casual stuff that no one buys or cares about.
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People are selling their Xboxes because of Fable?
Nah. The whole unification with windows 10 thing and console hardware updates. Yeah its pretty silly perhaps. Theyre planning to get rid of their boxes at least. Not sure how people are feeling in general, but yeah around me its not well received
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More changes at Microsoft: http://www.videogamer.com/news/microsoft_studios_site_removes_5_more_studios.html
Just a rumour, but apparently Rare might be taking over the Fable franchise.
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Its crazy that they closed down Lionhead yet kept studios like 'Good Science', 'Launchworks' and even 'BigPark' who worked on Kinect casual stuff that no one buys or cares about.
Lionhead have done nothing of note for years and even after 3 years in Development Fable Legends was nowhere near ready and still in the Beta stage and given it was a F2P model was doomed to fail anyway . Given that the main staff that made Fable great had long since left Lionhead (like the Carter brothers) and Lionhead seemed to have little else to offer, I'm amazed they kept going as long as they did .
People are selling their Xboxes because of Fable?
[/color]Its laughable to thing that people were buying or going to buy a XBox One because of just Fable. Its just cool to bash and jump on the bandwagon like it is with the COD, Sonic or EA bashing People are just being nuts and silly.
Did PC owners get rid of their PC's when the likes of DOOM, Half-Life, Duke Nukem Ect were all heading to consoles , is it time to dump the PC because Dirt is coming to the consoles ?. To me its easy money for MS to port its console games to the PC, given they were developed on the platform in the 1st place (much like SEGA porting DC games to the PC)
Its more a big deal when a so called console exclusive goes to a rival console , than to a PC . PC gamers and console gamers are different markets
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TA has been on this website for six years and still doesn't know how the syntax and code work. I think it's fascinating that you can be around this long and still make posts in a huge font for no reason.
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TA has been on this website for six years and still doesn't know how the syntax and code work. I think it's fascinating that you can be around this long and still make posts in a huge font for no reason.
I'm not the only one who's had issues with formatting on this site .
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Er...you do know you're the only one having these issues.
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It's part of his charm
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Yeah the forum freaks out randomly, we are working on getting it upgraded soon enough. But yeah, I wouldn't fault him too much on it.
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Er...you do know you're the only one having these issues.
Er... Try no
http://segabits.com/forums/index.php?topic=3795.75 (http://segabits.com/forums/index.php?topic=3795.75)
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So you knew of this and still did it wrong. Even better.
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So you knew of this and still did it wrong. Even better.
? . It's when trying to change and edit, that the formatting goes wrong .
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Yeah the forum freaks out randomly, we are working on getting it upgraded soon enough. But yeah, I wouldn't fault him too much on it.
(http://i.imgur.com/PNtIylJ.jpg)
if only it was that easy
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Oh, sorry then TA.
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Yeah, I'm sorry too. It was p. rude of me to begin with, but at least now we know it's not your fault? But yeah, I'm sorry for being a bit of a rude bitch.
Anyway, in real gaming news, Blizzard is apparently working to patch their old-ass games:
http://www.pcgamer.com/diablo-2-patched-for-the-first-time-in-five-years/
http://www.pcgamer.com/warcraft-3-is-getting-a-belated-patch-next-week-too/
I think it's a good move on their part. One of the often misattributed "pros" of PC gaming is that everything works, no matter what the age, and that's not truly the case. Some games require patches, others require screwing around with setup files, and some outright require emulating the old machines. So while I don't play any game Blizzard makes, it's cool as hell to see them working to keep their classics running and up-to-date.
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#MakeTheForumsGreatAgain
Trump will do it.
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Yeah, I'm sorry too. It was p. rude of me to begin with, but at least now we know it's not your fault? But yeah, I'm sorry for being a bit of a rude bitch.
Anyway, in real gaming news, Blizzard is apparently working to patch their old-ass games:
http://www.pcgamer.com/diablo-2-patched-for-the-first-time-in-five-years/
http://www.pcgamer.com/warcraft-3-is-getting-a-belated-patch-next-week-too/
I think it's a good move on their part. One of the often misattributed "pros" of PC gaming is that everything works, no matter what the age, and that's not truly the case. Some games require patches, others require screwing around with setup files, and some outright require emulating the old machines. So while I don't play any game Blizzard makes, it's cool as hell to see them working to keep their classics running and up-to-date.
No problem Moody, its all chill on my end.
Blizzard's commitment to older games is great, SEGA is sorta showing that with Dawn of War II, wish SEGA Japan's in-house supported their games after release from now on but... ya
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Telltales' TWD Mini Series episode 2 "Give no Shelter" has been announced for release on the 29th of march.
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PSVR Price: $399/€399/£349/¥44,980
Release Date: October (Worldwide)
Camera and move sold separately, only camera required for VR to function.
Source: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1197512
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SEGA is on the list of PSVR publishers
Sonic Adventure 3 VR
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You know how I've said SEGA should only bring old games back if there's a good reason or design for it? Well, I think something like a FPS Panzer Dragoon with this would be pretty incredible.
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Crytek Launches Cryengine V And Cryengine Marketplace, Intros 'Pay What You Want' Pricing Model: https://t.co/PQmlBf9blf
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PSVR Price: $399/€399/£349/¥44,980
Release Date: October (Worldwide)
Camera and move sold separately, only camera required for VR to function.
Source: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1197512
It will be another 32X, Kinect style flop and fad more so at £400. I really don't see the appeal of VR at all myself
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It's already sold out on amazon, so who knows.
I think it will have its market and work well fot certain games, but other then that, who knows.
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It's already sold out on amazon, so who knows.
I think it will have its market and work well fot certain games, but other then that, who knows.
It hasn't that was NeoGaf going into fanboy mode . You can still pre-order the item . Not that limited stock selling out , is a guide to a product being the next BIG thing
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Depends on how impressive it is and how cheap they can get it bundled with hardware. I think if you sold it as a all in one box (console/add-on) for 600 dollars, it would sell to people that really wanted Oculus Rift to be 350ish.
Think about it, with Oculus Rift you're paying 600 just for the head hardware, you still need a good enough PC to run the thing. I think the PSVR might be a worse experience but thats just how it goes with PC vs Console. PC's always have beefy hardware. But people still buy console games cuz their hassle free. IF someone wants to get a VR set up and they don't want all that tech mumbo jumbo of making a PC for over 800 bucks then getting a 600 dollar headset. PSVR is less hassle and cheaper.
Expect there to be kiosks at all retailers before it launches. They say you have to fully experience VR to appreciate it... we shall see if the public agrees.
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It hasn't that was NeoGaf going into fanboy mode . You can still pre-order the item . Not that limited stock selling out , is a guide to a product being the next BIG thing
Source: http://www.videogamer.com/news/amazon_has_sold_out_of_ps_vr_launch_stock.html
You are right it's no guide for the next "big" thing though.
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This is one of the more worrying things about VR mind: http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2016/03/16/how-i-felt-after-an-entire-day-of-vr
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This is one of the more worrying things about VR mind: http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2016/03/16/how-i-felt-after-an-entire-day-of-vr
Question is...was it the VR or the hair dye?
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Source: http://www.videogamer.com/news/amazon_has_sold_out_of_ps_vr_launch_stock.html
You are right it's no guide for the next "big" thing though.
Selling out means little, more so for pre orders when no one has to put their money where their pre-order button is . The 32X sold out at it's USA, the Mega CD sold out in Japan and in the USA during its launch and the Dreamcast sold out of all its pre launch units.
The unit costs too much and just has too many wires and is a mess to set up to be mass market imo . It's like 3D a fad and will never ever be main stream enough imo It be nothing more than one of those party type add-ons that you only ever use now and again or for 1 or 2 games.
I do see any of the VR systems taking off imo
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Question is...was it the VR or the hair dye?
It was VR that gave her the blonde hair!
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Revolution's 25th Anniversary Collection now out :)
Here's a video to celebrate: https://www.youtu.be/BHRClAd8oKA
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I tried VR yesterday. Fucking cool.
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Day of the Tentacle Remastered is now out: https://www.gog.com/game/day_of_the_tentacle_remastered
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Sony Shuts Down Evolution Studios, 'Driveclub' Lives On https://t.co/KYcAajPLJE
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More potentially leaked NX info: https://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1199996
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It's been doing the rounds for a while now, but more rumours are circulating that Sony are going to release a Playstation 4.5.
It'll basically allow all of PS4's current games to work, but with an extra hardware boost for 4k.
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What a load of bullshit.
I hope consoles die. Except for the Xbox, because I actually bought one.
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Here's the info: https://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1200274
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Probably just the PS4 Slim with beefier specs to stream your 4K Netflix or something
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Yeah, I reckon so. Bit like Nintendo with their handhelds.
Although, there is notable and somewhat worrying issue there too: https://youtu.be/4p0pI018jQ0
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So...how about all this episodic BS? Y'know at first I was okay with it because I understood from an economic and development standpoint, it's a way to make a game that otherwise could not be made, but...it's just getting really old. Especially with Telltale, with the money and notoriety they have, does it make any sense nowadays to release all their games in seasons?? Plus, we have the new...Hitman...
One level. That's all you get out of this 'episodic experience.' One level. And sure, they plan to support that level with like additional challenges...but they're online challenges. What's gonna happen when the game is no longer supported? I tell you what, you're gonna have like six levels to play in with some bonus content in them if you're lucky. Plus, with that absurd 'online and offline saves' thing, it just sounds like the publisher or developer is essentially making a big scam of the online-only bullshit.
If there's anything I want dead in this industry, it's online-only bullshit.
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Episodic gaming is fine. Despite bringing it into popularity, Telltale have certainly dropped the ball with it since. They've struggled to meet deadlines, clearly rushed some though and released some in a buggy state. Life is strange and King's Quest however have been great.
Square-Enix seems to have seen the success of Life is Strange and thought it was because of its episodic format which wasn't the case at all. They've now pushed hitman and FF7 in that format because of it too.
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No, yeah, I totally think episodic gaming as a format is fine. There's a lot of reasons to do it, more time to develop certain aspects, allowing later episodes to be bigger and fancier thanks to money made off earlier episodes, hell for some game's cases, being episodic is the only way they can get off the ground. I sincerely wonder what happened to Telltale. The pioneers of the episodic, digital format, the ones who single-handedly brought adventure games back to the mainstream, now release buggy, unfinished interactive stories. I used to ask kinda regularly, "when's Sam and Max season 4?" but now I honestly want someone else to do that. Sam and Max in modern Telltale's hands scares me.
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It started to go downhill for Telltale after TWDS2/TWAU. They just started juggling too many projects and not focusing on one. That's not to say what they've put out isn't good, but you can see in some episodes the writers were clearly stretched thin. I've enjoyed what they've put out as a whole, but it would be nice to see them implement more Point 'n' click styled puzzles once in a way like Sam & Max had.
People seem to think adventure games faded way due to the other genre's, but I really disagree. Adventure games have always been story rich and have a really absorbing world because of it, I think what really did the genre harm was some of the awful illogical or just plain unfun puzzles. Even the widely considered brilliant games like Day of the Tentacle, Grim Fandango, Monkey Island has some really bad puzzles in there.
Broken Age is a clear example of this. The first part was praised for good puzzles, compelling story and an interesting world. Part two however, had some really cheap puzzles that left you wandering around for ages aimlessly - that's not fun for anyone!
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Indieformer Kickstarter highlights: https://youtu.be/5en_sfBKnKQ
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It's been doing the rounds for a while now, but more rumours are circulating that Sony are going to release a Playstation 4.5.
It'll basically allow all of PS4's current games to work, but with an extra hardware boost for 4k.
There's no way games will do 4k on the PS4 imo . I think its more do with the VR and I can see PS VR make the 32x seem like a great idea
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Console versions of Five Nights at Freddy's will happen, says creator https://t.co/4egAXRMQIb
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Console versions of Five Nights at Freddy's will happen, says creator https://t.co/4egAXRMQIb (https://t.co/4egAXRMQIb)
Well I don't know what to say lol. I thought the series was about dead finally. LOL, i guess they should just sell it in a pack of all 4 games for $10 lol.
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Most likely, yes. I know people like to roll their eyes at this series (I'm not a fan myself either), but I don't think the abusive way people go about that is right. The series seem aimed at young adults just like Goosebumps etc.
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Disney Infinity discontinued as company exits console publishing business https://t.co/AAw7vsMUvU
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Anyone else see the Yooka-Laylee update?
Link: http://www.playtonicgames.com/raising-the-curtain/
Some really interesting stuff and the project seems to be going really well.
I have to say too, on twitter, the team there are brilliant. They're all friendly and willing to have a laugh and are leaving little bits for us to stay interested.
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Gog.com are shortly releasing GOGConnect. It's software that allows you to merge your steam library into your GOG one.
That's pretty sweet if you ask me.
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The Steam Sale has started!
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Anyone played Inside yet?
It's apparently a fascinating game, but you can't really talk about it as it ruins what it's about.
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Earth Defense 4.1: The Shadow of New Despair (http://store.steampowered.com/app/410320/) is coming out on the 18th. This was the PS4 edition of the game and according to fans it was by far the best game in the series. It's got that heavily distinct Japanese "make-batshit-crazy-happen" vibe, a spectacularly goofy and terrible dub, Serious Sam-levels of enemies, and a dedication to being really stupid. So it's on my wishlist for sure.
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Anyone else playing Pokémon Go?
I don't get it. You roam around, might bump into one and throw a ball. No skill, no real reason, no end goal. Think I'll stick to the actual games. Also, it really seems to depend on where you live, as I've found very little going on in terms of activity where I am.
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Anyone else playing Pokémon Go?
I don't get it. You roam around, might bump into one and throw a ball. No skill, no real reason, no end goal. Think I'll stick to the actual games. Also, it really seems to depend on where you live, as I've found very little going on in terms of activity where I am.
That's the point, the collecting.
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I'll stick to the real games then. Less barriers, more content and more skill. :)
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More reports on the NX: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-07-26-nx-is-a-portable-console-with-detachable-controllers
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Honestly, I'm more than ok with this. If true Means I no longer have to choose between a console for exclusives and a handheld for a half decent Pokemanz game. Less money for more Nintendo(1 vs 2 platforms) is fine by me.
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No chance they'll get much third party support though. It'll be interesting anyway.
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Part of me just is wishing that they at least wait to till Tegra x2...but bleh.
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Here's a video that helps to see where the NX will sit: https://youtu.be/C6cTt_nxTWo
It sounds okay, but we'll need to see price point etc.
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Sounds terrible.
How hard is it to make a normal console with high fidelity Nintendo games with a good online network.
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Sounds terrible.
How hard is it to make a normal console with high fidelity Nintendo games with a good online network.
Nigh impossible for Nintendo I think.
They could have had good online play on the Wii U, but they willingly chose not to embrace modern features anyway.
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It frustrates me to no end.
If an equivalent to what the GameCube was came out today: power on-par with contemporary consoles, good 3rd party support, healthy relationship with Sega, great first party titles, relatively low price point, high quality hardware and build quality... Add in a good online experience and I'd be all over it.
As it stands, it's been gimmicks for 10 years now.
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The Yooka Laylee toybox has been released. It's getting a lot of great praise for Play Tonic Games' efforts.
Also, PS4k Neo specs: https://youtu.be/vLyU_SqD_MQ
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It's sort of amusing to see PS4 go from being way outperforming the Xbox One to now the Scorpio will be outperforming the Neo.
Yet I think I'll be fine sticking with the OG models anyway. (Hopefully)
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I think it's a stretch to say that either of these consoles 'way' outperforms the other one. When you have to literally use a magnifying glass viewing tool a'la Digital Foundry to detect slight differences in resolution and antialiasing, the only people who are seeing a major difference are those who are fanatically brand-loyal.
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I think it's a stretch to say that either of these consoles 'way' outperforms the other one. When you have to literally use a magnifying glass viewing tool a'la Digital Foundry to detect slight differences in resolution and antialiasing, the only people who are seeing a major difference are those who are fanatically brand-loyal.
I honestly stay away from those types of videos from DF. Unless there's some serious issues, they're tedious to watch. I tend to prefer it when they look at things on the design point of view like they did with Shenmue or as Superbunny hop did with Sonic Mania.
With consoles, you know what you're getting. If you're after the best version, then you'll need a gaming PC. This is nothing new.
Also, I'm playing Yooka-Laylee toybox and it's mighty fine!
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New Yooka Laylee trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHZIFV3gKVY
This is looking mighty fine! The animation and level design really sticks out.
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New Resident Evil 7 trailer:
https://youtu.be/2COHeTTWir8
Silence, The Whispered World 2:
https://youtu.be/CHk4tjZjavM
Sea of Thieves gameplay:
https://youtu.be/TxK94BI2Stk
There's going to be quite a lot of updates due to Gamescom.
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Metal Gear: Survive
https://youtu.be/jLgkM0PA6qY
Bioshock Remastered Collection (with all DLC)
https://youtu.be/QtwY33n5WIo
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So, it's happening. Mario is now on smartphones:
https://youtu.be/D0l7xHWfg6o
It's Nintendo, so I'm expecting 10/10 from the shee-- I mean, reviewers.
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New slimmer PS4 will be $299 or £259, launching September 15th in "most markets.".
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That Mario app is nonsense. It's basically Sonic Runners, but with a lot less new assets created. Same sort of stuff we've seen in Mario Maker and the half dozen New Super Mario games. I'd assume people were giving polite applause because Miyamoto was there.
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Wow Sony really dropped the ball. They had no need, seeing as they are leading the generation
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The PS4 Pro is exactly what I thought it would be, but unless you've got a good expensive 4k TV, there's no real need. Now they've played their hand, it'll be interesting to see how MS react with the Scorpio.
My big concern however is it's another visual upgrade and more pressure on developers. I can see HDR being more compelling for devs as they'll need to do next to nothing different.
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The PS4 Pro is exactly what I thought it would be, but unless you've got a good expensive 4k TV, there's no real need.
I have a good expensive 4k TV and see no need anyway.
I don't know if any other 4k owners in here will agree with me, but it has a next to negligible impact on regular viewing compared to 1080p. It's better of course, but it's not like 1080p is limiting the content quality in any way (as was the case with old 480p and even to some extent 720p).
Even more jarring is that the slimmer and almost HALF-PRICED Xbox One S has 4K Blu-Ray capabilities and this does not. Why?
Nobody asked for this.
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That Mario app is nonsense. It's basically Sonic Runners, but with a lot less new assets created. Same sort of stuff we've seen in Mario Maker and the half dozen New Super Mario games. I'd assume people were giving polite applause because Miyamoto was there.
Except its not using a f2p model...making it better than Runners by default.
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Except its not using a f2p model...making it better than Runners by default.
How exactly? By having to spend money on it upfront?
I played Sonic Runners for months and had a blast without spending a dime. I only stopped playing when some update introduced massive lag spikes. It had nothing to do with it's financial model.
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Hands on impression of PS4 Pro:
https://youtu.be/pUb63Dc7-Bw
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I'd assume people were giving polite applause because Miyamoto was there.
The most overrated games developer there is and its also high time he retired . So sad to see NCL being in such a state
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The PS4 Pro is exactly what I thought it would be, but unless you've got a good expensive 4k TV, there's no real need. Now they've played their hand, it'll be interesting to see how MS react with the Scorpio. .
PS4 was a total letdown and cock up . The presentation was one of the worst I can ever remember . The machine looks ugly as sin, the games hardly run any better and the lack of Bluray 4K playback laughable . The XBox One S is such a better deal its untrue .
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Keep in mind, this was always going to be tough to represent. They were trying to show off 4k by streaming etc...
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Keep in mind, this was always going to be tough to represent. They were trying to show off 4k by streaming etc...
The show was really terrible and the games they showed off run no better and the 4K is just an upscale and the lack of 4K playback just shocking , the console looks ugly as sin too . It's hardly what anyone could class 'Pro'
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4K is a joke.
HDR is a much more interesting tech, but it's ultra expensive right now.
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The Last Guardian has been delayed...
With this, PS4 Pro and mods not allowed on PS4, it's not been great for Sony lately.
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Microsoft is moving on with mid-gen upgrades and PC cross-buy/play. Effectively shortening the distance between consoles and PC while maintaining their respective advantages and differences.
Meanwhile, Sony has targeted PC gaming by positioning itself as a PC substitute which is CLEARLY NOT.
What a horrible strategy.
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Didn't want to really bring it up as I don't own a PS4, but haven't most of the big titles kind of landed with a thud too?
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It's strong in JRPGs tho, and has Street Fighter V
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Jim Sterling on PS4:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn6OR7OtLj4&feature=youtu.be
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Be among the first to discover #NX. Watch the Preview Trailer at 7am PT/10am ET! https://t.co/R2QTzjyLUo
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Be among the first to discover #NX. Watch the Preview Trailer at 7am PT/10am ET! https://t.co/R2QTzjyLUo
Lol nice. Cross posting with the other thread
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Jim Sterling is a douche.
The NX hasn't even been announced and I'm already sick of it.
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Jim Sterling is a douche.
The NX hasn't even been announced and I'm already sick of it.
(https://cdn02.nintendo-europe.com/media/images/not_approved_yet_1/CI_NX_Announcement_image912w.jpg)
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Now that just makes it all the worst doesn't it
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Hes
Now that just makes it all the worst doesn't it
He's actually just checking no one sees him voting for Trump in that booth.
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Now that just makes it all the worst doesn't it
Lol.. well it can't get worse.. well at least... wait this is Nintendo never mind
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Hadn't followed the sales for consoles recently but apparently Xbox one has been outselling ps4 for 4 months. Thought it was interesting because I never expected this to happen. Actually thought xbox was going to decline lower and lower.
I gotta say tho, the xbox one S is a sexy looking machine. Thats all I can say really. Oh yeH and the backwards compatibility seems to have been dope as well. Read that performance is better than on the 360.
There's an actual race and I feel like thats a good thing.
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The best Xbox is 250-300. The best PS4 is 350-400.
In the consumer mind, it's irrelevant that the PS4Pro is slightly more powerful, and they won't buy the shit PS4.
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http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/11/report-ubisoft-developing-rabbids-mario-crossover-rpg-for-switch-launch-day/
About how some gamers whine : why rabbids, why not Rayman, the main character.
May be all they did was playing games, never watched tv or browsed a book store.
Rabbids had its own tv series and comic book, while Rayman didn't.
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Rabbids were incredibly influential on initial Wii sales.
They are the original gaming "minions"
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The best Xbox is 250-300. The best PS4 is 350-400.
In the consumer mind, it's irrelevant that the PS4Pro is slightly more powerful, and they won't buy the shit PS4.
Which is kind of funny as now is the time to get a standard PS4 really as:
Most don't have 4K TV's
Even networks etc aren't using it natively - it gets compressed etc
PS4 Pro has yet to change much in terms of performance - certainly not enough to warrant the price hike.
Companies behind 4K TV's have yet to really choose which 4K to use
The PS4Pro uses checkerboard rendering to achieve 4K which has so far had mixed results
Meanwhile, the standard PS4 has had:
A redesign
Price reduction
Cheaper bundles.
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A few days into the steam sale and so far...meh. there's some good games up for grabs, but nothing that's really grabbing me personally.
Silence, the whispered World 2 has come out and it seems to be a hit mind. The only other thing I'm interested in at the moment is FFXV.
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FF15 is getting some great reviews it seems with the only flaw being with some of the mechanics feeling a bit dated. Understandable really as it started production so long ago. Hopefully, we won't see the story go off it's rails in the third act.
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FF15 is getting some great reviews it seems with the only flaw being with some of the mechanics feeling a bit dated. Understandable really as it started production so long ago. Hopefully, we won't see the story go off it's rails in the third act.
I am really happy that the game seems to have turned out well for them. It was looking like a trainwreck for a long time.
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Anyone catch the Playstation experience? Quite a lot was shown...
Horizon Zero Dawn
Resident Evil 7 Demo 3
Ni No Kuni 2
The Last of us Part 2
The Last Guardian
Neir
Gravity Rush 1/2
Battlefront Rouge One DLC
Uncharted 4 DLC
Knack 2
Death Stranding
Vane
What remains of Edith Finch
Nioh
Personna 5
Hand of Fate 2
Full Throttle Remastered
Windjammers
Marvel Vs Capcom infinite
Grand Turismo Sport
Crash Bandicoot trilogy remake
Yakuza 6
Yakuza kiwami
Let it die
Absolver
And many more.
The one thing I did like was how they didn't force VR in everything.
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It was a great watch. Games left and right lots of stuff for everyone. Playstation still surpassing themselves each time imo. As mainly a pc gamer u cant really ignore their exclusives. I was gonna get a ps4 sooner than this but i havent yet for reasons. I think seeing some of those games especially yakuza 6 is going to be whats gonna pull me over. Having said that its clear that sony is really good at making hype trailers and conferences in general.
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The Last of us Part 2
Let it die.
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A whole bunch of more of the same. How exciting.
I liked GT Sport, Crash remake, Yakuza and Persona. Although Crash was the only novelty.
Everything else looks boring af
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To not have much interest in any of those or only one/two suggests you're kind of done or at least need a break from gaming?
There's a few exclusives for the PS4 that takes my interest.
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There's a lot I'm excited for in gaming. I just feel Sony is trying to appeal to a completely bland market
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Fair enough. Personally, beyond Sony, I find everything else is on PC now.
The Last Guardian is on the way and digital Foundry's analysis really doesn't leave a pretty sight. I'm not one of those that really goes mental just because it's not 60 fps, 4k blah, blah, blah, but this title reeks of being poorly optimised:
Standard PS4: 25 - 20 FPS
PS4Pro in 1080p: 30 FPS
PS4Pro 4k: sub 30 FPS
There's quite literally nothing really pushing the standard PS4 that explains why it's running so poorly.
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Sony made a very dumb decision with the PS4 Pro, completely abandoning the main advantage a console has over PCs, full fledged optimization.
They are asking console game devs to optimize for multiple hardware and settings. This is a by-product of that decision.
PC gaming is imploding anyway, in 2 years time the mid-market will be completely depleted on PC, so don't sell your console just yet.
MS is doing the smart thing by releasing Xbox games on PC, already preemptively filling that gap.
Sony is marketing to its own market right now. The one that it created with the PS2. Unfortunately, it is completely catered to people with different tastes than me.
Those PS4 games look terribly boring and derivative to me. I understand why many people like them, I just feel that someone who's favorite game is any of these just isn't much into gaming outside the PlayStation market bubble
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I don't think PC gaming will implode as such, but I can see it slowing down to more typical numbers.
The Pro seems like a tremendous waste of time in all honesty. It can't really run 4k natively without the rendering trick - okay, only 1 known game has but it's a smaller title and I suspect others will be the same.
People who have played those games using checkerboard rendering have apparently noticed it too. HDR seems good, but beyond that, the pro seems more designed to help VR than anything else.
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I don't think PC gaming will implode as such
It has already begun:
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/x9kjvkbkfl3st9dvfcmx.jpg)
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I'd say that's more to do with Steams awful quality control more than anything else. On a similar note, I think Valve need to be careful. Think people are starting to get a bit tired of Valves ways lately.
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Yooka-Laylee will be out on April 11th:
https://youtu.be/LNBET707f4s
Also, there's new Shenmue screen shots.
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Scalebound has been cancelled: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1332178
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Microsoft is kinda irrelevant to me now. Dont really care much about what theyre going to offer at least soon.
But otherwise its quite a weird case for them in general because it seems theyve been really bad with developers. Its not just scalebound but also fable and even quantam break.
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And they've pretty much destroyed Rare. Nobody has come out and said as such, but the fact that most of the "core" staff have left and joined PlayTonic Games is quite telling.
That's now two huge UK studios they've managed to ruin now (Rare, lionhead) and I have to say, I'm finding it really hard to like MS because of it.
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Rare and Lionhead would have had the same fate regardless of Microsoft. They are mid-sized devs that wouldn't have survived the gaming markets evolution anyway.
Also, disregarding Microsoft's contribution in games and development over the past decade because of some overrated devs crumbling down is petty.
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I'm going to assume you've not seen all the cancelled projects by MS from those studios? I'm not sure on Lionhead, but Rare certainly tried to evolve. Kameo 2 took a different direction, a untitled game in the vain of Titanfall, a untitled Last Guardian-ish game, Banjo Kazooie 3, Perfect Dark sequel that wasn't pushed out to hit the 360 release window etc. It's all there on youtube and so on to see...it's rather quite sad really.
With most of the team gone now, it would't surprise me if Rare is next for the chop after Sea of Thieves.
As for MS's efforts in the gaming industry, I do indeed give them a nod for their contribution in both hardware and software. I just wish they handled studios better like many do. Their list of first party studios must be getting quite thin now mind.
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Perfect Dark Zero was great at the 360 launch.
Just because those games have "leaked" out to the public doesn't mean anything. Every videogame developer has tons of games and ideas that don't make the cut. Budget and dev time are always concerns, and Rare wouldn't have survived without MS anyway.
When bought, LionHead had an astounding output of....3 games, one being a sequel. Black/White and Fable were Molyneux's babies, but anything past that was pretentious bullshit and snake oil. Microsoft didn't destroy anything, the studio just wasn't that good of an investment.
Public perception of a studio can change with one game. Look at id. Look at Sonic Team.
Studios don't mean shit. Games are a combination of people and IP. Good people working on good IP will always produce good content.
I do wish MS would do something cool with Rare's IPs. If they are done by Rare or not is completely irrelevant.
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And they've pretty much destroyed Rare. Nobody has come out and said as such, but the fact that most of the "core" staff have left and joined PlayTonic Games is quite telling.
That's now two huge UK studios they've managed to ruin now (Rare, lionhead) and I have to say, I'm finding it really hard to like MS because of it.
Lionhead killed them self's true be told and SONY have killed off plenty of UK studios too you know. As an Amiga fan it was horrible to see Psygnosis be shut. SONY also shut Evolution Studios and Studio Liverpool along with the likes of Zipper but somehow get a free pass
Platinum games I don't have much time for them , their games have always been vastly overrated costs loads to make and simply don't sell inthe numbers needed (just ask SEGA and NCL). To me more of a screw up by MS was not getting FromSoftware to make a IP for One and sequels to Blue Dragon and LO -instead MS put millions into that Kinect
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I do wish MS would do something cool with Rare's IPs. If they are done by Rare or not is completely irrelevant.
Perfect Dark Zero was utter rubbish imo it was so bad, Kameo was average . but I agree RARE have been wasted for a few years - they still have a awesome R&D piple line and should now be allowed to make the sequels the Team wanted to make . I think with the Kinect being dropped and Avtar's not counting for much , this is happing
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Nobody has come out and said as such, but the fact that most of the "core" staff have left and joined PlayTonic Games is quite telling.
That happens , how many Staff have SEGA lost over the years ?. It's kind of depressing when you see the talent that SEGA let go, even Yu Suzuki left the group and the way SEGA Japan (even before Sammy) messed up the Smilebit and UGA studios still hurts - they were the best games developers around nobody could touch them
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It does indeed happen, but it's rare to see an entire team go off and start their own studio in the same mold as their previous one wouldn't you say?
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It does indeed happen, but it's rare to see an entire team go off and start their own studio in the same mold as their previous one wouldn't you say?
No. That happens all the time.
Not only that, over the course of over 10 years about 80% of the people change anyway
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Is it? Huh. Still, I'm looking forward to seeing what they do :)
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It does indeed happen, but it's rare to see an entire team go off and start their own studio in the same mold as their previous one wouldn't you say?
Its not that Rare. Land Ho were almost completely made up of ex CS team Sega staff when they set up. Artoon other corp set up with mostly ex Sonic Team Sega staff (much like Prope) and Genki were formed out of almost 100% Ex AM#2 staff
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See above.
Nintendo are set to talk about the Switch soon. It'll be interesting to see if the rumours of beyond good and evil 2 are true.
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Nintendo are set to talk about the Switch soon. It'll be interesting to see if the rumours of beyond good and evil 2 are true.
Hard to be exited about a sequel to an ok 13 year old game on a tablet-grade powered Nintendo console..
I just want Nintendo to die already, so that their games are developed by better studios and come out on better platforms.
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Well...that was poor as usual for Nintendo. Pass.
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Well...that was poor as usual for Nintendo. Pass.
After the failure the Wii U was, I can't understand how they could fuck this launch up so badly and focus on such shitty gimmicks. "Okay THIS time we'll get all the Wii buyers back..."
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Here's some pricing too:
USA: $299
Euro: €329
UK: £279
UK game prices already up:
Mario Kart £50
Zelda: £60
To put that in context, games rarely ever go past £40 here and if they do, it's only about £44.99 and not for very long as they don't shift off the shelves. Even with the drop in sterling, this goes way above that. As for the rest of Europe...jeez, Nintendo really don't like you. The bottom line is, it's just too expensive for what it is.
They've had the same words by publishers etc thrown behind it as usual, but nothing to actual back it up. Oh, and apparently the charge will last up to 6 hours as a handheld and only 2.5 for more taxing games like Zelda.
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So i didnt watch the conference thankfully but im a bit shocked with how few games they showed. DOA if you ask me.
I will say this tho. The functionality of the joy cons is fucking amazing.
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Nintendo Switch off life support
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Don't know what to laugh at the most. The lame showing, the insane pricing, the lack of games or Nintendo charging for online lol. Game over Nintendo... At least Sega tried with the DC
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Yup. Would be something if the mainstream picks this up. I think they dont have a chance at the serious gamer aka hardcore
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I drew the line when I saw Super Mario spin dashing around Station Square.
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I drew the line when I saw Super Mario spin dashing around Station Square.
Man how do you do this.
But yeah sonic adventure 3 as i always imagined is finally a thing
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Just wait though. Despite that, because it's Mario it'll get called a "innovation" to mix cartoon characters with realistic ones haha.
Got to admit though, I'm surprised with the lack of games on offer. Considering they've been quiet for so long, merged their handheld and console studios together and have Retro etc sitting in the wings, they've really done a poor job on that front. Hell, they already said Pikmin 4 was ready for the Wii u, but decided to put it on switch...so where was it?
They could have at least got a studio like Sumo Digital or high voltage etc to work on porting Wii u games across or something.
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Man how do you do this.
What did I do lol
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What did I do lol
The connections. Not gonna lie i was subconsiously thinking the same but looking back it almost seems blatantly copied. The way the taxi drives over the well. Almost seems like theyre taking the piss. Not the first time ive noticed mario games copying sonic stuff.
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http://i.imgur.com/25G5TEA.gif
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I used to think that Nintendo did this sorta stuff on purpose to mess around with people. Nah this is them actually being serious and even proud lmfao.
I still like the idea of the joycons a lot to give credit where its due. They may function as 2 very accurate gyro sensors and i also like that u can take it with u to a friend and just play some quick games with eachother already having 2 controllers.
But the execution is typical nintendo half assing their efforts. Cant say im surprised anymore. But uhh.. If this thing succeeds and becomes cheaper id defenitly see the appeal of the thing. The mario game all jokes aside looks kind of incredible if u ask me.
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Got to admit though, I'm surprised with the lack of games on offer. Considering they've been quiet for so long, merged their handheld and console studios together and have Retro etc sitting in the wings, they've really done a poor job on that front. Hell, they already said Pikmin 4 was ready for the Wii u, but decided to put it on switch...so where was it?
Nintendo fans always say that rubbish. Look at any Nintendo console since the N64 and despite Nintendo making nothing towards the end system life, they have hardly anything ready . They don't have enough teams and their piple lines up not up to working on multi projects at the same time.
They are behind on Tech and online and the Switch is a bit of trainwreck. Best get ready for yet another Nintendo system in 3 years after this one flops
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People speculate on how merging handheld and console divisions will create more games, but who knows if that is really the case. It also could mean that they just want to stay even more low key with the amount of games.
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People speculate on how merging handheld and console divisions will create more games, but who knows if that is really the case. It also could mean that they just want to stay even more low key with the amount of games.
NCL old handhelds have pretty rubbish screen res and spec's and so the handheld teams didn't have to create 1080p quality assets . Now the Handheld teams have to make home quality AAA productions that look great not only the move, but also in the home.
Nintendo just don't have the lines to handle that, they could barely cope on the Wi U . This is a bit of train wreck truth be told, to think NCL used to make fun of SEGA for rushed launches .
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NES: 62 million
SNES: 49 million
N64: 33 million
GC: 22 million
WiiU: 13 million
The Wii was a fluke. Nintendo has been feeding off the market they won with the NES for decades, and it's drying up.
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Having been able to look at all the infomation etc, I really don't see this being a success or something I'd ever want. The idea is interesting, but the way Nintendo have implemented it is just poor. Nintendo just don't seem to get it, do they? They keep trying to find a market that simply doesn't exist or has moved on to other devices that are far easier to use.
Ah well, here's hoping the eventual drop to third party doesn't hurt them too badly.
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Social media being a big thing nowadays is defenitely going to stop nintendo from getting any kind of succes the wii did with a lame package. In hindsight the wii may have gotten the same reaction back in the days about the bad graphics, inaccuracy of the wii motes, lack of compelling third party games the other platforms did get and droughts etcetera.
I could honestly see the switch become quite succesful if nintendo has the attention of a big crowd outside and away from this bubble. Once they start targeting the average joe with good commercials i think the product they have certainly is an atttactive enough one to sell with the concept itself. Showing zelda along side it should make it look like a tablet with gsmed u wont find on a typical tablet. Said it before; it all comes down to marketing in this case imo. I feel like wii u was not an attractive product at all despite its potential.
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Market it anyway you want, nobody buys a 330 euro Nintendo with 250 euro Xbox and PS4
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https://youtu.be/f0lyvgeJJw0
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Just a thought, if this is really running on Tegra X1 and games come on a SD card, surely this will get hacked fairly quickly?
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Usually Nintendo consoles are piracy heaven
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Market it anyway you want, nobody buys a 330 euro Nintendo with 250 euro Xbox and PS4
I get what you mean and I also agree with that a lot of people may rationalize it like that. All im saying is that they got a neat product for once that is a lot more marketable than previous ones in which it was usually the software driving the lame hardware. People may WANT it at first glance at least.
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I get what you mean and I also agree with that a lot of people may rationalize it like that. All im saying is that they got a neat product for once that is a lot more marketable than previous ones in which it was usually the software driving the lame hardware. People may WANT it at first glance at least.
I don't think it'll quite pan out that way sadly. As the DF video says, the switch is a good handheld, but picture quality on the TV is pretty poor and with gamers already rightfully skeptical due to the Wii, Wii u and the NS's price.
It's an even harder sale for the casual market too. Apart from the Ipad, they can get a gaming tablet or phone with a better charge for under £200 already and with much cheaper games. If Nintendo market it as a console you can use as a handheld, people can see it's underpowered and expensive, but if Nintendo market it as a handheld that can be a console, it's in the same niche market as the Nvida Shield or high end tablets.
I get the feeling after the initial rush from Nintendo gamers and people after the lastest shiny, sales will fall of a cliff. Especially in Europe where we're getting shafted by the price. I like the idea of a handheld and console hybrid, but I think Nintendo went with it without looking at the market, without looking at their position and without looking at costs.
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I get what you mean and I also agree with that a lot of people may rationalize it like that. All im saying is that they got a neat product for once that is a lot more marketable than previous ones in which it was usually the software driving the lame hardware. People may WANT it at first glance at least.
But who wants it? Too weak for traditional gamers, too expensive for parents to buy their kids.. Nintendo is staying away from the idea of competing with iPads, so who is this really for?
Once again Nintendo is counting on their (shrinking) legion of fanboy geektarts to make a profit, while throwing in generic gimmick concepts they think the mainstream public will be inclined to buy on impulse (like the Wii).
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Tbh i'm not sure either. Impulse buyers? Personally I don't think they deserve to have a succes with how greedy they've been acting lately and now again with the switch. It's too bad because 300$ wouldnt be thaaat bad if everything else was priced reasonably and there was no payed online. Also weird how it costs 30€ above the dollar price in europe(wtf). Seems like it should be like Tad says where the hardcore will be there day one as usual and then dead in the water after that. I'm just giving a bit of possibilities but nintendo is known to have their head up teheir ass lol
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(http://i.imgur.com/x49UdSt.jpg)
Lol
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Ahaha brilliant
How will Nintendo tackle the handheld market from now on? I feel this is the question everyone is afraid to ask.
If it weren't for the GameBoy/DS lines, Nintendo would have dropped out around the same time as Sega, it was the handhelds that built up their massive cash reserve. So how will they handle from now on?
Should Sega make a handheld??!???!
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I think that market has been eclipsed by tablets and phones really. Your best option is to probably just make software and hardware like a controller or TV connecter for them.
That would probably suit Nintendo well as they seem fixated on making controllers.
The only other option is to create your own, but I'd say that's what Nintendo are trying to do with the Switch.
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I think that market has been eclipsed by tablets and phones really. Your best option is to probably just make software and hardware like a controller or TV connecter for them.
I don't think it's eclipsed at all.. I just think nobody is going into it correctly. Sony fucked it up, Nintendo repeated the DS formula (for great effect), but there is a need for something new and I don't see the Switch filling that gap.
I think Sony would be in a better mindset
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The 3DS did well along side the tablet/phone market, so you're right.
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Ahaha brilliant
How will Nintendo tackle the handheld market from now on? I feel this is the question everyone is afraid to ask.
If it weren't for the GameBoy/DS lines, Nintendo would have dropped out around the same time as Sega, it was the handhelds that built up their massive cash reserve. So how will they handle from now on?
Should Sega make a handheld??!???!
SEGA should defenitly! The tablet market is way too big for not to wanna 'penetrate' it a bit. Which brings me to what I think nintendo wants to do. I think nintendo wants to do exactly that with its tablet. For one it actually looks like a premium tablet from first glance, second it can do so many things more (gaming releated) than a regular one. This should probably catch the attention and will be its selling point. Whether its going to have mass apeal however I dont know. Tbh while the price is way out of what a gamer expects of such a device let alone a nintendo device, i honestly think that we're picky compared to the average consumer. I think Nintendo switch's succes depends a lot more on its mass apeal than anything else.
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Although the average consumer would rather avoid embarrassing situations such as "is that the new ipad? no it's a Nintendo". Nintendo will always be associated with kids and weird manchildren. And Nintendo doesn't understand western kids with their lit fam bois.
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Either way it doesnt really matter as long nintendo is the one behind a product it will always be trash. Always went against a third party nintendo but at this point i hope they do. Switch failing can only be a good thing in that regard.
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Ever since Nintendo dropped out of the power race, I've always thought they should of gone the cheaper hardware, cheaper price route personally. If it weren't for their gimmicky controllers, they probably wouldn't of had a choice but to either. I mean, sure, they would not get the triple A games still, but it will have Nintendo's first party games with the odd good third party title and indie support. If the price is right, say around 200, I think people would've picked it up still.
I like the idea of a hybrid handheld/console, but either Nintendo are being a bit greedy with the price or they couldn't get the price down low enough to really carve out their own audience. If the latter is true, then maybe they should have dropped the idea for something else instead.
Maybe not a hybrid, but 2 devices (one portable, one console) that share the same games library?
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Tad is super on point.
Nintendo could have released the Switch as two independent machines sharing the same hardware, a 200e home console and a 200e portable, that run the exact same games.
Man, I would be raving, on line day one to get the portable one.
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The propositions of me eventually getting a Switch would be
it becoming a succes(for actual support)
it online costs 2 euro p/m for online at MAX and like maybe 20 a year or so
............a legit metroid game(i'm weak)
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Sweeeeeet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k1af7oZ4Us
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Was Syberia gud?
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A friend got me it as a gift ages ago and I never played it.
Hope that helps!
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I thought so. It's a point and click adventure game that had you (Kate Walker) trying to track down a person who owned a huge mechanical toy/machine company. Kate ends up going on a huge adventure in the process of discovering this persons life and what had happened.
This one seems to have moved away from the point and click pre-rendered gameplay. There was always talk of a sequel by the incredible talented creator, but it seems it's finally happening.
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sounds delightful really
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Yeah it is really. Some of the puzzles were quite tough, but the world is fascinating and full of life. The company Kate's poking around in is full of automatons and other clever designed machines that use clock work - the guy she's after is a genius at making these.
The latter half of Syberia 2 saw Kate find hidden cities with different types of life. It'll be interesting to see where it goes from there.
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No Virtual console at Switch launch. That's a huge own goal I think.
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Nintendo are getting quite a few indie games now which is good to see. I get the feeling this "Nindies" movement was really started by NoA/NoE more then Japan.
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it's though not having true third party support
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True enough. The lack of third party is going to be trouble for them, but at least they're trying I suppose.
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Yooka Laylee reviews are in and it seems to be getting 6-7/10 which seems about right. Though, I think a lot of the negative reviews seem to have got the idea of this game completely wrong. From the word go, Playtonic said this would be a 90s styled N64 platformer and yet some writers are seeing that as a negative?
Jim Sterling seems to be the worst of this. He clearly doesn't like this type of game, so he simply panned it. Very odd.
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Yooka Laylee reviews are in and it seems to be getting 6-7/10 which seems about right. Though, I think a lot of the negative reviews seem to have got the idea of this game completely wrong. From the word go, Playtonic said this would be a 90s styled N64 platformer and yet some writers are seeing that as a negative?
Jim Sterling seems to be the worst of this. He clearly doesn't like this type of game, do he simply panned it. Very odd.
I think the game is going to do fine. Those who loved collectathon platformers will love Yooka Layee, since they funded it too.
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True enough. The lack of third party is going to be trouble for them, but at least they're trying I suppose.
Agreed.
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Jim Sterling seems to be the worst of this. He clearly doesn't like this type of game, so he simply panned it. Very odd.
Jim Sterling seems to be the worst at anything, especially after giving 7 for Zelda:BOTW while others will go for 9 or 10.
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New Shinobi game : Shinobi Striker !!!!
(http://fs5.directupload.net/images/170407/2gsrl7qu.jpg)
Spoiler alert :
Just kidding btw.. It's just a Naruto game.
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https://youtu.be/SW_f8h2ZyHI
Also, Scorpio specs:
https://youtu.be/RE2hNrq1Zxs
More info:
https://youtu.be/EYfj0Ah0SfI
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https://youtu.be/YuqM5_4zZkM
https://youtu.be/FabDSD6sLwg
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Love me some Full Throttle! ^ 8)
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Sega sign publishing deal for sim game from former Lionhead staff: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-05-30-sega-signs-publishing-deal-with-former-lionhead-leaders
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A round up of everything EA showed at their event: https://www.awx.co.za/nexus/ea-play-2017-round-up.html
I thought the event was really poor with loads of pointless talking only made worse by the ego boosted generation called "youtubers". What they had to show was good with Battlefront 2 looking better and A Way Out looking interesting, but for me that's about it.
Looking forward to seeing what Microsoft have to offer later.
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Project Scorpio is now been named as Xbox One S.
The console itself seems good at can hit 4k at 60fps, but I'm not sure why, but once the show had finished I didn't really feel excitement from what I saw. Maybe it's because it's a "mid-cycle" console or something, but the show just didn't grab me. The games were there, but as usual with MS pretty much all of them will be out on other platforms or PC too.
I know Rare are working on Sea of Thieves, but I'm sure they have another team at the studio. It really does feel like MS are just going to close Rare down after SoT lands with a thud.
I guess my overall view is, I'm glad I have a PC.
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If you buy a game on Xbox or on Windows, it counts the same for MS. Eventually, PC gamers will be Xbox gamers, even without a console. That's their plan. Platform as a Service. The new Xbox console is just a user-friendly way of getting high performance gaming.
The One X didn't impress me enough, but I did like the games that are coming out! Good time to have an Xbox (or a good gaming rig)
I could give less of a rats ass about Rare.
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EA Conference:
Looking forward to Battlefront 2 and FIFA 18
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Ubisoft:
Nice to see Nintendo trying something different by teaming up with Ubi for Mario and Rabbids. Looked okay, but I'm not buying a Switch, so kind of pointless for me. After that nothing really jumped out at me for Ubi. I was looking forward to Beyond Good & Evil 2, but whatever that video was, was not Beyond Good & Evil.
Sony's Conference:
Very weak. Unless you have PSVR, very little reason to watch it.
The showing from the main two has been pretty poor this year. There's some good looking thrid party stuff and the indie scene looking stronger, but the big two must have been caught mid development this year and simply had little to actually show. Starting to think E3 would be much stronger if thry had it every two years instead.
Sega is at E3 right? Apart from those twitch videos, I've seen nothing from them so far.
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Sega is at E3 right? Apart from those twitch videos, I've seen nothing from them so far.
Yeah, SEGA is there. Sharing a booth with Atlus at the West Exhibit Hall of the LA convention center.
They released a new trailer featuring first gameplay footage and release date for Total War: Warhammer 2 (https://www.polygon.com/e3/2017/6/12/15764084/total-war-warhammer-2-release-date-trailer-e3-2017).
(https://cdn.creative-assembly.com/total-war/com.totalwar.www/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/12124841/TWW2_SGE_ARRAY_UK-764x540.jpg)
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Ah, right. Guess I just haven't seen it. It might be worth Sega doing a direct like show for people at home to see what they're doing. It's difficult to wade through all the news and I think they get lost in it all.
Hey, Barry, there's an idea for the site maybe? :/
Update: Nintendo:
Mario + Rabbids
Yoshi
Kirby
Xenoblade 2
Arms
Fire Emblem
Mario
Fifa 18
Rocket League
Yoshi
Splatoon 2
In the future (I'm guessing 2019 at the minimum):
Pokèmon RPG
Metroid Prime 4
That's a good line up with a hint of what's to come in the future. Add all the third party games coming and with Zelda plus Smash no doubt in the works, they're looking pretty strong.
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Pokemon is always torn between older and newer fans just like Sonic. O3O Curious to see what they do.
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That's a good point. Will they go back to the original 151 or will they make new ones or just a mix of all the old ones.
I was interested in Sega Forever, but now it seems like it's moblie only so I'm reversing out of that interest asap.
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NEW 2D METROID
I think my most unpopular opinion when it comes to games is how much I dislike the Metroid Prime games. I mean, I just really don't see the appeal in them. But I LOVE 2D Metroid so this new one coming out in September is right up my alley, especially cause I don't even have a switch yet.
It also comes out the day before my birthday, so it's perfect!
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My hype games:
Sonic Mania
Sonic Forces
Star Wars Battlefront II
Destiny 2
F1 2017
Dragon Ball Fighter Z
Cuphead
Crackdown 3
Wolfenstein II
Anthem
Special mention:
Metroid Prime 4, maybe next year I'll get hyped
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Sega would like to bring Persona and Yakuza to PC: http://www.pcgamer.com/yakuza-and-persona-are-on-that-list-of-games-sega-want-to-bring-to-pc/
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Oh, that's very good news. I like them :afroman:
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Valkyria Revolution out tomorrow: https://twitter.com/SEGA/status/879428989009371137
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Anyone else excited about "The Inpatient"? I personally think it will be better as a VR only instead of third person.
Until Dawn was a really cool game, but the camera angles were bad at times.
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Sony are set to reveil something new soon.
I swear if it's another console I'm done with console gaming. We've had 5 iterations in about 4 years now.
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Sony should reveal an apology for releasing the PlayStation 2, that became such a hit it led to the demise of the Dreamcast. (It was strange going from online gaming and amazing experiences to a glorified DVD player)
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Sony should reveal an apology for releasing the PlayStation 2, that became such a hit it led to the demise of the Dreamcast. (It was strange going from online gaming and amazing experiences to a glorified DVD player)
Wasn't just Sony's fault. Sega's ineptitude in the mid to late 90's killed their hardware business.
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Wasn't just Sony's fault. Sega's ineptitude in the mid to late 90's killed their hardware business.
Sega actually did a lot better than everyone remembers during that time period. The Saturn actually outsold the N64. It also outsold the Playstation in Japan until around when Final Fantasy VII came out. Which was about a two year time period. Saturn was still selling fairly well in Japan, but had tanked in America. Anyone remember the Vectorman display Saturns at places that just felt old up against the N64 and PS1 displays? Now people are clamoring for 2d sprite releases again, but thought they were babyish in the late 90's.
Sega needed money from the west so in comes the Dreamcast, which in most scenarios was far better than the PS2. (Easier to program for, online services, amazing games). All PS2 needed was hype, a DVD player, and the promise of Final Fantasy X and whatever the next Dragon Quest game was going to be.
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Sega actually did a lot better than everyone remembers during that time period. The Saturn actually outsold the N64. It also outsold the Playstation in Japan until around when Final Fantasy VII came out. Which was about a two year time period. Saturn was still selling fairly well in Japan, but had tanked in America. Anyone remember the Vectorman display Saturns at places that just felt old up against the N64 and PS1 displays? Now people are clamoring for 2d sprite releases again, but thought they were babyish in the late 90's.
Sega needed money from the west so in comes the Dreamcast, which in most scenarios was far better than the PS2. (Easier to program for, online services, amazing games). All PS2 needed was hype, a DVD player, and the promise of Final Fantasy X and whatever the next Dragon Quest game was going to be.
The Saturn fumbled out of the gates in the west due to a number of reasons, one more importantly being the launch price of $400, compared to Sony's $300. Not to mention that Sega had already alienated its fanbase by releasing the 32X and Sega CD right before it. Didn't leave a lot of room for consumer confidence. And let's not get into Stolar's stupid comment about the Saturn "not being Sega's future" that automatically killed any chance the Saturn had of being successful in the West..
DC was fantastic, but what some people don't realize is that Arcade games were starting to die down. Sega had always been able to cash in on bringing arcade games to your home, the very foundation of Sega is in arcades. Sony offered gamer's more than that, with games like MGS, FF, DQ. They offered long and cinematic game experiences for the same price that Sega was offering arcade games for. It was only a matter of time before the DC died, as gamer's tastes had already changed by that time. Arcade games could only sustain your business for so long, and it showed.
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DC was fantastic, but what some people don't realize is that Arcade games were starting to die down. Sega had always been able to cash in on bringing arcade games to your home, the very foundation of Sega is in arcades. Sony offered gamer's more than that, with games like MGS, FF, DQ. They offered long and cinematic game experiences for the same price that Sega was offering arcade games for. It was only a matter of time before the DC died, as gamer's tastes had already changed by that time. Arcade games could only sustain your business for so long, and it showed.
I would make the argument that Sega knew that. Let's compare some titles and then tell me why Sony won. Was it games, or hype and a DVD player?
PS2 Titles:
A-Train 6
Drum Mania
Eternal Ring
Kakinoki Shogi
Kessen
Mahjong
More Shogi games
Ridge Racer V
Street Fighter
These launch titles and console sales already started to eclipse the previous Dreamcast launch numbers. Within a year PS2 had already outsold lifetime sales of Dreamcast. The hype titles that came late the first year or even later were Gran Turismo, Tekken Tag, and the promise of Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest.
Dreamcast did suffer from lack of software at launch, but by the time PS2 hit they were in full sprint. I think the biggest thing lacking was third party support outside of Capcom.
Dreamcast:
Phantasy Star Online
Virtua Fighter
Sonic Adventure
Power Stone
Puyo Puyo
Marvel vs Capcom
Nobunaga games
SNK fighting games
Street Fighter
Soulcalibur
Gundam
Nadesico
SHMUPs
JoJo Bizarre
Bangai-o
Resident Evil
Dance Dance Revolution
Shenmue
Sega Rally
Seaman
Sakura Taisen
J League
Grandia 2
I might be wrong, but I think Sony had marketing and DVD and they would have won any way history could have played out.
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I think Sega were trying to pull away from the arcade games on the Dreamcast, but time and money was against them and others were in a better position.
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I would make the argument that Sega knew that.
Yes, but it was already too little too late. Financially speaking, they couldn't sustain themselves.
Dreamcast did suffer from lack of software at launch, but by the time PS2 hit they were in full sprint. I think the biggest thing lacking was third party support outside of Capcom.
Ubisoft & Capcom were huge for the Dreamcast, but yes, they lacked a lot of big 3rd party support. Squaresoft and EA were big companies and they brought zero software to the Dreamcast, there was no way it would survive without them.
I might be wrong, but I think Sony had marketing and DVD and they would have won any way history could have played out.
Marketing was certainly behind them and yeah, i believe they oversold the PS2.
I think Sega were trying to pull away from the arcade games on the Dreamcast, but time and money was against them and others were in a better position.
I agree, but as i mentioned it was too late. Shenmue is a prime example of Sega trying to pull away from arcades and trying to offer a more cinematic and longer gaming experience. But the game ultimately was too expensive to develop, costing upwards of $50mil, which again brings me back to Sega's inept business practices. Anyone with common sense would know that there was no way they would be making any profit on developing a game like that, period.
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It's both incredible and madness that they made Shenmue back then. I honestly don't know where to begin explaining just how difficult it would have been and I'm not just talking about how much they squeezed out of the hardware for polygons and texture detail. There was no such system to manage all the NPC's actions throughout the day or how such things that seem simple would have been difficult back then. Even on release certain parts were clunky, but there's no denying how big of an influence it had for future game developers in one way or another.
All these things that were so hard back then can be created much easier now with or without tools like Unreal or Unity. Even the basic programming methods has made it far easier. I guess Shenmue being the first was a blessing and a curse.
Gamescom has been going on and it seems fairly quiet to me. We've had Shenmue, Sonic and a handful of other games that look interesting, but that's it.
I really think these big events should be more inlined with modern game production and only happen every two years now. Back in thy oldie days, games could be made much quicker as they were simple, but they take far longer now and that's why we're seeing some years with nothing but updates or teasers only.
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Sega had always been able to cash in on bringing arcade games to your home, the very foundation of Sega is in arcades. Sony offered gamer's more than that, with games like MGS, FF, DQ. They offered long and cinematic game experiences for the same price that Sega was offering arcade games for. It was only a matter of time before the DC died, as gamer's tastes had already changed by that time. Arcade games could only sustain your business for so long, and it showed.
Arcade like experiences are making a comeback in a big way thanks to Indies. I wonder if SEGA can create a few small teams to make Arcade games again and put them on PSN/XBL/Steam and the Switch and make money like they are for Sonic Mania? It'd be a nice boost to their coffers and they have specialist knowledge on what gamers want these days! (Reagrding bite sized experiences that are similar to Indie games).
You never know, perhaps they could even make it a little collection named "SEGA's Mini Ventures" or something! Games costing no more than $10 but offer experiences similar to the Mega Drive, CD, 2D Saturn games and Dreamcast!
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Just make a Dreamcast 2. :D Make it blu ray and DVD compatible, though I don't think that's required since most formats are going totally digital these days. Sega doesn't need movies anymore to compete with other consoles, just good games. Sega can still do it. Don't care what anyone says about money, Sega can do it if they just DO IT.
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An interesting insight to the development of Alpha Protocol: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-09-06-the-making-of-alpha-protocol-obsidians-secret-best-rpg
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https://youtu.be/ztMGTTAjsAQ
Short version: New Mario Switch bundle, release date for Zenoblade 2 and Skyrim. Wolfenstein 2 and Doom are heading to the Switch with a new kirby game too. More info here if you wishc: http://uk.ign.com/articles/2017/09/13/heres-all-the-news-from-todays-nintendo-direct?read
Bit surprised by Doom and Wolfenstein, but it's nice to see Nintendo getting some third party support.
https://youtu.be/1ZQkjSNzTFA
I always feel let down when I buy a Nintendo console, but this new Mario does look pretty fun.