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Off Topic => Everything Else => Topic started by: Sharky on August 05, 2010, 10:24:47 am
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Just read this guys life story... Hes like some kind of super hero.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill)
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He doesn't seem like a "real man" to me. True men don't wish for 10 more years of war and death; that's more like what a neo-conservative psychopath would wish for.
I'll call him what B.A. Baracus calls "Howling Mad" Murdock: He's a crazy fool. :P
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Fluffy no offense (ok, a little offense) but you wouldn't know a real man if it hit you in the face.
Also you are missing the point.
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Sorry, but I don't equate mental illness and reckless behavior with manhood. :P
A real man wouldn't spontaneously hit me in the face like that, because a real man thinks through his actions and acts with maturity. I'm afraid that you're thinking of a 12 year old boy's fantasy of what a "real man" should be.
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Jack Churchill and that dude who lifts refrigerators over his head are real men.
Here is a list of various men leisure activities in order of preference:
(http://http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/171/picture3hl.png)
Clearly the real men mentioned above enjoy most, if not all, of these. I'll bet Jack would be home computing right now ere here alive today.
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Sorry, but I don't equate mental illness and reckless behavior with manhood. :P
Thats exactly where you're going wrong.
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Historically speaking, manliness is linked to courage, strong wills and tests of strength, which is why you hear people calling Rambo, Indiana Jones or Segata Sanshiro manly characters, and not someone like any male from Kingdom Hearts or something.
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This guy's wild. I mostly enjoyed the fact that after all the fighting, he designed a surf board.
Also: funny how "toilet" beats out eating.
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@Soup, Yeah his life reads like some kind of made up list of awesome things...
Some of my high points,
He killed people with a bow and arrow in World War 2...
He was the only unharmed person in a mortar attack and he played the baggpipes!
...Then he took up surfing.
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If he played bagpipes, I'm going to assume that he also threw those telephone poles in his spare time.
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Definition of Manliness
[spoiler:2d8rk4pz](http://http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l3o2n4N7Qp1qb6oldo1_500.jpg)[/spoiler:2d8rk4pz]
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Definition of Manliness
[spoiler:39i4875f](http://http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l3o2n4N7Qp1qb6oldo1_500.jpg)[/spoiler:39i4875f]
Not real, denied.
Read my link to find out what a real man is.
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Some of my high points,
He killed people with a bow and arrow in World War 2...
He was the only unharmed person in a mortar attack and he played the baggpipes!
...Then he took up surfing.
He is so badass that he probably did all of those at the same time!
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Definition of Manliness
[spoiler:28kifhqy](http://http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l3o2n4N7Qp1qb6oldo1_500.jpg)[/spoiler:28kifhqy]
Not real, denied.
You do not deny Kenshiro.
Kenshiro denies YOU!
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Real man? I thought we already had a Bentley Jones thread.
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I loved every second of that, James May is one of my personal heroes and this only makes me love him more.
Not a fan of Gordon Ramsey though, usually too distastefully rude for my liking.
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Not a fan of Gordon Ramsey though, usually too distastefully rude for my liking.
Ditto. That's why it's so great when James flatly says "You dissapoint me Gordon..."
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Real man - Muscles + Anti-Razors
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I'm a big Ramsay fan, mainly because he doesn't bullshit when it comes to telling somebody that they're a lazy fuckup (on the Kitchen Nightmares series) and seems to honestly have a lot of love for his profession. Of course, it's all about making money for him, but he understands that good food + passion + a smart business sense = profit.
So in keeping with the definition of a real man, I'd say a real man thinks with his heart AND his head and doesn't talk bullshit.
Oh, and at the gym last night a Steven Seagal movie was on. Lol, holy crap I forgot how over the top violent his movies get. http://movies.amctv.com/movie/36786/Out ... e/overview (http://movies.amctv.com/movie/36786/Out-for-Justice/overview)
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Real man - Muscles + Anti-Razors
Have fun trying to find a girlfriend with that big 'real man' beard.
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There are always trimmers. :)
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This is about as close as I get to 'shaved'
(http://http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2008/06/29/women-pref_PMxAB_17651_310x235.jpg)
Reasons:
1. It gives me a manly quality. I have long hair, being shaved would just ... no. ..
2. I hate shaving to the skin, it fucking sucks. Especially if you don't do it for a long time.
3. :shock: :shock: :shock:
Plus if i'm ever in the UK (http://http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100403093421AAHIacE).
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I shave clean, because I have a job and I'm not a long-haired hippy!
Just kidding, I like to leave a few days growth as well, think it looks good, but working in an office it can sometimes just look like I couldn't be arsed shaving, which isn't good.
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It is not easy being a hippie.
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Post more manly images!
(http://http://i36.tinypic.com/14o6l5f.jpg)
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Fighting a Grizzly Bear with a pepper mill, while wearing track-pants and no shirt. I'm at a loss for words.
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George = Real man XD
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George = Real man XD
He is a Real American Hero.
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(http://http://www.uncoached.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/animals_giving_high_five_30.jpg)
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Holy shit, Drago is still the coolest person in the world.
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That's just outstanding.
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I love the new Fashionista Ken dolls. They show how REAL men should dress. ^__^
(http://http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/5250/g14955l.jpg)
(http://http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8513/300187l.jpg)
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You're just trying too hard fluffy. Go back to the drawing board and work on being more subtle. You used to be really good at trolling us too, but this was kinda blatant. I know you have some more good trolling left in you, you just gotta put your mind to it, don't sink to this level!
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Accused of trolling in a spam thread? I had no idea that people were so sensitive about their spam. :P
I just saw those dolls in a store earlier, and this thread reminded me of them. xD I felt the need to share how... well, rather feminine they were. At the very least, I was hoping to hear some of your thoughts about how cultures around the world are changing its attitudes towards masculinity.
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^See! Getting better!
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That's not a changing attitude towards masculinity, it's just men being women is all.
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That's not a changing attitude towards masculinity, it's just men being women is all.
That's according to an archaic view of how men and women should be - one that you've been brainwashed with since birth, no doubt.
Assuming that we're all nerds here, none of you would fit in with this supposed definition of a "real man". What does that make you all, then? Children? Or perhaps, those antiquated stereotypes of "proper" masculinity were wrong all along. :P
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Well I'm pretty sure Ken Dolls lack male genetalia, so they aren't really 'Real Men' by most definitions.
Also, I think they are made of sythetic materials.
Anyway, Here's another manly man etc etc
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Of course I know that Ken isn't real, duh. :P What I'm referring to are overall trends in our society as a whole.
I feel that the less enamored we become with these antiquated ideas about masculinity, the better. Give us less John Waynes and more Zac Effrons.
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That's according to an archaic view of how men and women should be - one that you've been brainwashed with since birth, no doubt.
The correct view and does not change the fact they are being like women, rather than men.
Assuming that we're all nerds here, none of you would fit in with this supposed definition of a "real man". What does that make you all, then? Children? Or perhaps, those antiquated stereotypes of "proper" masculinity were wrong all along. :P
And assumption would be the mother of all cockups.
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The correct view
Perhaps that's what the neanderthals thought, back when that view wasn't so ancient and outdated. xD
Welcome to the new world, and a superior plane of thought.
And assumption would be the mother of all cockups.
Well, I do know from the podcasts that you have quite a nasally voice, something for which a macho "real man" would likely mock you for. (Don't worry; my voice is rather nasal, too. Feel no shame!)
I wanna see a picture of you now. ^_^
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The fuck is going on here. Im pretty much walking macho testosterone.
The internet gives the illusion that femininate males are well looked upon in a social context. Lol no. Unless they are married. Sorry that's how it works really.
There is no new world. It has always been like this and will always be cause the only ones that complain about it are wimps.
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Yeah, I suppose that less overtly macho guys aren't popular in our cultur-
Say, what's this? Vampires that sparkle?
(http://http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4673/twilightsparkleet.gif)
Bah, I'm sure that whatever this is from, it's not that popular. Nobody could enjoy this, especially not women.
Besides that, we all know that nobody wants to see cute or attractive looking guys who know how to dress and look nice. Everyone begs for fat, balding wrestlers with greasy facial hair instead. Rednecks are the most chic people I know.
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Implying women that are not teenagers don't prefer a emotionally solid, protective, manly man. Implying Antonio Banderas doesn't drop triple the panties that pansy does.
You love to talk about how we stereotype things, but you're the one with such a degrading definition of a "real man".
I can be attractive and I know how to dress. I am also a macho-minded male. It has nothing to do with looks. It has to do with attitude.
EDIT: and what's with his hair? Vampires are allergic to combs?
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Who finds cute guys hot? Pretty much every girl who's ever hit on me, for one. :P I'm also emotionally solid and protective, even if I'm not Rambo.
See, I never said that being effeminate makes a guy a "real man". I was talking about a gradual relaxing of gender stereotypes (key word being "gradual"). I personally think that manhood is proven things such as responsibility and intellect, and not by trivial things like whether or not a man prefers collecting rifles or stuffed animals.
You guys proclaim that being a regular low-browed douchebag makes someone a "real man", although I'm sure most of you are just flexing ironic humor with this thread. It's terrible to think that some of you are serious about it. xD
For me, an ideal society would be one where the masculine and the feminine are not at all rigidly defined. Just imagine: folks like George would never have to be insecure about shaving their facial hair again. Really, everybody wins.
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See, I never said that being effeminate makes a guy a "real man". I was talking about a gradual relaxing of gender stereotypes (key word being "gradual"). I personally think that manhood is proven things such as responsibility and intellect, and not by trivial things like whether or not a man prefers collecting rifles or stuffed animals.
For me, an ideal society would be one where the masculine and the feminine are not at all rigidly defined. Just imagine: folks like George would never have to be insecure about shaving their facial hair. Really, everybody wins.
What are you talking about? Collecting stuffed animals is a girl thing.
Think the other way around. Do you think it's normal for a girl to collect rifles? Of course not. It is absolutely normal that there are different standards for man and women. Because man and women are different.
So while a real man does not enjoy women things, one can be responsible and intellectual as well. You must be trolling, otherwise I really pity your mentality on this subject.
For you an ideal society would be filled with homo gay sex, sparkling vampire wimps and fabulous pink city cabs, so I'm not sure where your comment is really aiming at..
But seriously talking: it has never been such society and never will be. Women and man are different. We enjoy different things, have different brain/physical functionality and capabilities, have different bodies, have different clothing, have different habits, have different ways of living.
You take away the (little) definition there still is nowdays and you get a even more confused society.
I remember you (or someone) talking so eagerly about how homosexual behavior in animals "proving" that it was a normal thing. Funny how suddenly the humans should be the only ones with the same roles for males and females.
I don't believe humans are "just animals", but I'm just throwing out a valid argument that was used against me before.
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Speaking of John Wayne, this remake of one of his movies looks awesome
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And it seems I underestimated fluffy, he riled up this thread good and proper! It's been relatively civil though, so just make sure to keep it at a low roar you guys, some of us are trying to sleep!
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Think the other way around. Do you think it's normal for a girl to collect rifles? Of course not.
Of course I can think the other way around. By all means, it is perfectly fine to me if a woman wants to collect rifles. It's just a hobby, and so long as she is responsible with them, it won't hurt anything.
You must be trolling, otherwise I really pity your mentality on this subject.
For what, choosing not to be narrow-minded in my views?
For you an ideal society would be filled with homo gay sex, sparkling vampire wimps and fabulous pink city cabs, so I'm not sure where your comment is really aiming at..
For me, an ideal society would be one where people are free to be who they want to be, and people don't mind or treat them with adversity.
Well, just so long as they aren't actually harming someone else, of course. No axe murderers running around on the streets or whatever. :P
have different brain/physical functionality and capabilities,
Oh really? How well would you say that a woman's brain functions in comparison to a man's, then?
You take away the (little) definition there still is nowdays and you get a even more confused society.
What you'd actually get is one increasingly less paranoid of diversity and less fearful of change.
(Or in other words, Fox News Channel's worst nightmare.)
I remember you (or someone) talking so eagerly about how homosexual behavior in animals "proving" that it was a normal thing. Funny how suddenly the humans should be the only ones with the same roles for males and females.
That was not me. I believe that may have been Emmet.
We have evolved an intellect that is superior to other animals. Do you care to use yours?
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We've all had a bit of a laugh at stereotypes in this thread, but honestly I think the definition of a 'real man' runs deeper than what they look like and their physical attributes etc. I think as long as they are honest, willing to put in hard work and look out for their friends and loved ones then someone is a "Real Man". Whether they wear a coon-skin cap or a pink t-shirt.
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"We have evolved an intellect that is superior to other animals. Do you care to use yours?"
Do I have to deal with this kindergarten bullshit to have a decent discussion with you?
Man and women have different brain capabilities, fact. A while ago I read about how man were better with spatial recognition (why man are better at sports) and women have better memory (how they can remember how to make a sandwich without burning down the kitchen), for example.
Brain functions != intelligence.
If even with social roles people often get confused and aimlessly try to copy eachothers actions, imagine a world where everyone did whatever the fuck they wanted to (even without endangering others). People get confused easily, that's why ALL of us follow ideals. Liberal or conservative, we all have ideals and stick to them. If someone thinks they're totally liberal and every social rule is bullshit, he's just another one mindlessly following liberal ideals. It's human nature to do so.
So while I have no formed opinion on your ideal society, I do not believe it would work at all.
Thing is you just love being different. You love getting people mad over it. I could also go on and on about how people like you like to cry for attention. But I should know better. And so should you, and stop criticizing other one's life styles.
People also have the ability to CHOOSE to conform to social standards. I am as liberal of doing what I want as you are. And I love being manly and crack opening bears and shit.
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I also agree that being a "real man" is much more than appearance alone. I don't know if that was transparent in my posts..
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We've all had a bit of a laugh at stereotypes in this thread, but honestly I think the definition of a 'real man' runs deeper than what they look like and their physical attributes etc. I think as long as they are honest, willing to put in hard work and look out for their friends and loved ones then someone is a "Real Man". Whether they wear a coon-skin cap or a pink t-shirt.
Thanks, MadeMan. That's pretty much what I was trying to say.
Well, I'm ready to go to sleep now, so no more unnecessarily long debates for me. Continue on with the silly posts. =P
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All I can tell you is that real men don't do the things fluffy says or wants. This isn't a new world, it's a world in fluffy's head where Halo is a bad game, having tastes amounts to horribly drawn Japanese comics and a bunch of other odd things.
Just sayin'
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I love the way fluffy always walks away once his arguments start wearing out.
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I like a nice pair of perfectly shaped round breasts.
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Human males are natural gatherers (any kind of support counts, usually some form of labor), human females are natural nurturers... I mean, unless you want to say all pregnant woman should have a hard labor job. Of course not everything is set in stone, but a real man would not be such a bitch about this.
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I love the way fluffy always walks away once his arguments start wearing out.
Actually, I had been awake for around 24 hours, my head hurt, and most importantly, I was upset at myself for wasting so much time on another meaningless forum argument that could never amount to anything better than bittersweet feelings in the end.
...Not that I expected you to be psychic and know how I was feeling, of course. =P
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Well fair enough :)
Now please excuse me while I go wrestle a lion for a cup of beer served on top of exquisite tits.
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http://www.archive.org/details/HumanRep1947 (http://www.archive.org/details/HumanRep1947)
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Real men just keep on it.
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How can we trust the words of a man afraid of pluppets.
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I can't believe I forgot to mention this after seeing the Dolph Lungdren vid, but my uncle used to be a bouncer with Dolph Lungdren in a Sydney Nightclub. He was also Mr Australia and Mr South Pacific for a while, and is briefly in Mad Max 3.
Yes, he's pretty awesome.