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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: east of eastside on February 11, 2010, 06:45:51 pm
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Stats:
Ryo Hazuki
Age 18 -Shenmue 1 (41 present)
Height 176 cm (5' 9")
Weight 65Kg (143lbs)
Blood Type O
D.O.B. 29th November 1968
Place of Birth Yokosuka, Japan
Kazuma Kiryu
Age 41
Height 184cm (6' 1")
Weight 88kg (193.6lbs)
Blood Type O
D.O.B. June 17, 1968
Place of Birth (????) Raised Sunflower Orphanage Kamurocho, Japan
I just realized Ryo and Kazuma were born in the same year. They share the same blood type, too? Hmm... Orphanage records error for Kazuma could explain the D.O.B. difference.
Is there anything that would definitively rule them out as brothers?
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DON'T. :cry:
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Kind of interesting, but I have no idea why you would think they are brothers.
First off, they are not even from the same universe, and second of all, it is just a coincidence. Blood types are not always shared with brothers either.
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Do you mean Twins?
Theres not much to go off really, Aki-at, Sega Uranus and Me were all born within a few days of eachother, but we certainly aren't brothers.
I doubt there is any connection, but like you said in the other thread, it would be cool if there was some references to Shenmue events/characters in Yakuza etc. Even if it was just mentioning an old gang from the 80s called the Mad Angels or something.
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The only way they could be brothers is with different mothers since they were only born five months apart.
Edit: Oh yeah, just saw your note about possible orphanage error in date of birth.
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Do you mean Twins?
Theres not much to go off really, Aki-at, Sega Uranus and Me were all born within a few days of eachother, but we certainly aren't brothers.
I doubt there is any connection, but like you said in the other thread, it would be cool if there was some references to Shenmue events/characters in Yakuza etc. Even if it was just mentioning an old gang from the 80s called the Mad Angels or something.
Yeah, I'm sorry, I meant "twin brothers".
There is no real reason they would be brothers it is just interesting speculation to entertain the possibility in case in the future the two universes would twist somehow.
I know there is no statistical significance in the birth year and blood type being the same, but it is kind of curious that Sega chose to give them the same birth year. I never noticed that until now.
Like I said earlier, Ryo in SASR might be the beginning of a trend of using the Ryo character in games outside of Shenmue to tease the series back.
It would be the most awesome fan service to have a mystery character that fits the bill of Ryo in Yakuza 5 and just kind of leave it in question as a big tease.
Wouldn't it be awesome if you could play as him in Yakuza 5?
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Wouldn't it be awesome if you could play as him in Yakuza 5?
No. He might not even survive in the end of Shenmue III, so why break both games stories like that?
As an extra that has nothing to do with the story, I would still be against this. Yakuza and Shenmue are barely anything alike.
And Ryo is only in Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing because of fan demand. If it were SEGA's choice soley, I doubt he would be in.
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Wouldn't it be awesome if you could play as him in Yakuza 5?
No. He might not even survive in the end of Shenmue III, so why break both games stories like that?
As an extra that has nothing to do with the story, I would still be against this. Yakuza and Shenmue are barely anything alike.
And Ryo is only in Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing because of fan demand. If it were SEGA's choice soley, I doubt he would be in.
I agree it is a stretch, but their might be some marketing reason for doing it like in the case of SASR. Yakuza 5 is going to need something that breaks with the series tradition to keep it fresh. I'm guessing at least a playable female fighter.
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I thought Yakuza 4 was really mixing up things a lot? And what about Kenzan? I agree though a female character should be considered.
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First off, they are not even from the same universe.
How can you be so sure? :afroman:
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Do you mean Twins?
Theres not much to go off really, Aki-at, Sega Uranus and Me were all born within a few days of eachother, but we certainly aren't brothers.
I doubt there is any connection, but like you said in the other thread, it would be cool if there was some references to Shenmue events/characters in Yakuza etc. Even if it was just mentioning an old gang from the 80s called the Mad Angels or something.
Yeah, I'm sorry, I meant "twin brothers".
There is no real reason they would be brothers it is just interesting speculation to entertain the possibility in case in the future the two universes would twist somehow.
I know there is no statistical significance in the birth year and blood type being the same, but it is kind of curious that Sega chose to give them the same birth year. I never noticed that until now.
Like I said earlier, Ryo in SASR might be the beginning of a trend of using the Ryo character in games outside of Shenmue to tease the series back.
It would be the most awesome fan service to have a mystery character that fits the bill of Ryo in Yakuza 5 and just kind of leave it in question as a big tease.
Wouldn't it be awesome if you could play as him in Yakuza 5?
I don't know if I would want him as a playable character, but like I said in the thread on Sega.com, I would have loved to see Sega do some kind of shared universe like League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, where every Sega IP co-existed in some way.
They wouldn't necessarily have to cross over with playable characters or anything, but the example I used earlier, maybe Kazuma meeting someone talking about the violent gangs on the harbour like Mad Angels, or someone watching pro-wrestling on TV and Wolf Hawkfield is the champ or something. Heck, they could even have something as minor as a Comic book from Comix Zone sitting in a newsagent or something.
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Goji Rokkaku from Jet Set Radio showed up in Yakuza already.
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Goji Rokkaku from Jet Set Radio showed up in Yakuza already.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
Really? I'm only up to chapter 5 or so of Yakuza 2, so don't tell me any more if it's after that! :shock:
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Kazuma's parents were killed when he was closer to ten.
And spoilers
His parents were killed by Fuma
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Goro Majima is the same Goro from the Yokosuka docks.
(http://http://www.shenmuedojo.net/images/Wallpaper/800/Goro_800_600.jpg)
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HEY BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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Don't you think that blackmail is waaaay uncool?
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Goji Rokkaku from Jet Set Radio showed up in Yakuza already.
:afroman: Wow, I missed that connection.. Where?
Kazuma's parents were killed when he was closer to ten.
Okay, I think that would begin to shoot it down...
Goro Majima is the same Goro from the Yokosuka docks.
Yikes, he used to be so happy once.. :|
Don't you think that blackmail is waaaay uncool?
Not so much if you are the one doing it.. :mrgreen:
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Goro Majima is the same Goro from the Yokosuka docks.
(http://http://www.shenmuedojo.net/images/Wallpaper/800/Goro_800_600.jpg)
If I made a replica of Goro's shirt, would anybody be interested in buying it?
Sorry, brb, gotta take a leak bro.
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Goji Rokkaku from Jet Set Radio showed up in Yakuza already.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
Really? I'm only up to chapter 5 or so of Yakuza 2, so don't tell me any more if it's after that! :shock:
I'm pretty sure he was in the first one, but didn't have a speaking role.
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First off, they are not even from the same universe.
How can you be so sure? :afroman:
Yeah! How can you be? They never mentioned their worlds are different worlds. Both lives in Japan, Tokyo.
Whatever, we already knows that Ryo dies at the end of the story, so why bother about him on Ryu Ga Gotoku?
And I think this is not a mere coincidence; Nagoshi was Suzuki's pupil and take a look at his games: all similar to Yu's productions(but cheaper).
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It mentions on the Yakuza Wiki that
Goji Rokkaku
[1] The character Goji from Smilebit's (Sega) Jet Set Radio game -a.k.a. Jet Grind Radio- set in Tokyo-to makes an appearance.
But doesn't actually saw where or when... :|
This site says
The PS2 game Yakuza features a cameo by Gouji Rokkaku. He is the leader of an organization , but does not have a speaking role.
http://gaming.wikia.com/wiki/Jet_Set_Radio (http://gaming.wikia.com/wiki/Jet_Set_Radio)
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First off, they are not even from the same universe.
How can you be so sure? :afroman:
Yeah! How can you be? They never mentioned their worlds are different worlds. Both lives in Japan, Tokyo.
Whatever, we already knows that Ryo dies at the end of the story, so why bother about him on Ryu Ga Gotoku?
And I think this is not a mere coincidence; Nagoshi was Suzuki's pupil and take a look at his games: all similar to Yu's productions(but cheaper).
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Yeah and they sell better.
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It would be cool if both series took place in the same universe and if Yakuza made subtle references to Shenmue. It'd be like the old days were SEGA would tie the universes of seperate games together.
Like how Space Harrier and Fantasy Zone are connected. And in After Burner 2 where you see the OutRun couple drive by when you land on a road.
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It would be cool if both series took place in the same universe and if Yakuza made subtle references to Shenmue. It'd be like the old days were SEGA would tie the universes of seperate games together.
Like how Space Harrier and Fantasy Zone are connected. And in After Burner 2 where you see the OutRun couple drive by when you land on a road.
heck yeah, that is exactly what I'm talking about. Not sure why people have to be so uptight about the universe thing.. it can just be kind of a low key reference to give a nod to Shenmue and please the fans.
Of course, Bayonetta references several Sega series and what do they all have to do with each other?
I still would like to see something like a mystery character for a chapter like, "a hooded master from Hong Kong" with a bunch of hints that it could be Ryo, but then kind of leave it in mystery.
Like I said, Yakuza 5 is going to need something fresh to keep the series relevant. I think a female fighter is one obvious one.
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I agree about keeping the series fresh, I disagree with just adding a female fighter.
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Yeah addint a female character isn't really changing much at all, just an aesthetic change.
The idea of four different characters in Yakuza 4 and it's 'Lets make a fighter' side quests/missions sound like something more progressive.
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Yeah addint a female character isn't really changing much at all, just an aesthetic change.
Not if her breasts jiggle with the Sony wand, fool! :x
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Spike and Spike Jr(from SpikeOut) makes a cameo at the end of [PLANET HARRIERS]; they seen the harriers flying on the sky.
Well, there is already a female fighter in Ryu 2 and after the Bayonetta flops around the world, I doubt Sega will create another bitch as the main character of an action game that soon.
This will be probably the last game featuring Kiryuu as the main character.
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But Bayonetta didn't fail. It did 1.1 million copies. :twisted:
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I doubt Sega have sold that ammount. It's the same case of Virtua Fighter 4; they said that they have sold 1 million, the truth is that they have shipped 1 million and sold only half...
Whatever, I thought Bayonetta would be the biggest hit of this year in the world -_-
Haters....
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300,000 is sold in Japan and at least 160,000 was sold in America. So at the the very least the game has sold 460,000. Who knows how much it sold in Europe but since SEGA makes their money on retailers and not consumers, they've already managed to get a large amount of money from the title either way.
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300,000 is sold in Japan and at least 160,000 was sold in America. So at the the very least the game has sold 460,000. Who knows how much it sold in Europe but since SEGA makes their money on retailers and not consumers, they've already managed to get a large amount of money from the title either way.
My prediction was
300K Japan
200k America
200k Europe
Looks like it may do those numbers after all, I'm sure it will reach 200k in America life time sales.
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It has to do better than that, it has to!
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I'm pretty sure there will be strong demand for Bayonetta at discounted price points, for what it's worth..
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Oh, one thing missed: Akira Yuki / 1968 Blood type O...
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Oh, one thing missed: Akira Yuki / 1968 Blood type O...
thanks for getting the discussion back on topic. 8-)
Okay, so Sega must associate blood type O as warrior blood.
1968 is still a mystery..
MLK and RFK were killed that year, maybe those were formative events in Yu Suzuki's life? Just kidding. :P 1968 might just have some significance for somebody or the company?
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Ryo, Kazuma, and Akira are all the same guy, but in parallel universes!
Not only the same blood type and same birth year, but all have their hair spiked up. Both Ryo and Kazuma have animals on their back. (Ryo has a tiger on his jacket, and Kazuma has a dragon tattoo.)
Shenmue started out as a Virtua Fighter RPG, with Akira instead of Ryo.
Ryo's father was murdered. Kazuma's parents were murdered.
Spaking of which, Ryo's dad's Japanese voice is played by Segata Sanshiro. Which basically means that Ryo is Segata Sanshiro's son(!) in an alternate universe. It explains why Ryo is such a good fighter, and why Ryo has a Saturn in his living room! (Segata is possibly Akira's grandfather in the Virtua Fighter universe)
So basically Ryo = Kazuma = Akira. And Segata is like the precursor or something. :lol:
I'm not into the Yakuza series, so maybe you guys could find better similarities!
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Ryo, Kazuma, and Akira are all the same guy, but in parallel universes!
Not only the same blood type and same birth year, but all have their hair spiked up. Both Ryo and Kazuma have animals on their back. (Ryo has a tiger on his jacket, and Kazuma has a dragon tattoo.)
Shenmue started out as a Virtua Fighter RPG, with Akira instead of Ryo.
Ryo's father was murdered. Kazuma's parents were murdered.
Spaking of which, Ryo's dad's Japanese voice is played by Segata Sanshiro. Which basically means that Ryo is Segata Sanshiro's son(!) in an alternate universe. It explains why Ryo is such a good fighter, and why Ryo has a Saturn in his living room! (Segata is possibly Akira's grandfather in the Virtua Fighter universe)
So basically Ryo = Kazuma = Akira. And Segata is like the precursor or something. :lol:
I'm not into the Yakuza series, so maybe you guys could find better similarities!
wow.
So you're saying Segata is basically Big Boss and these are all his clone son's? It only makes sense... who is the mother then?
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Obviously some sort of future space goddess.
(http://http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b127/8Billie8Joe8Luver121/ulala.jpg)
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Oh, one thing missed: Akira Yuki / 1968 Blood type O...
thanks for getting the discussion back on topic. 8-)
Okay, so Sega must associate blood type O as warrior blood.
Type O
Best traits : Agreeable, sociable, optimistic
Worst traits : Vain, rude
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type ... se_culture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_types_in_Japanese_culture)
Here's the others out of interest
Type A
Best traits Earnest, creative, sensible
Worst traits Fastidious, overearnest
Type B
Best traits Wild, active, doer
Worst traits Selfish, irresponsible
Type AB
Best traits Cool, controlled, rational
Worst traits Critical, indecisive
I should also note that blood type O is the most common.
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Obviously some sort of future space goddess.
(http://http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b127/8Billie8Joe8Luver121/ulala.jpg)
dead link...
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Another thing interesting about the 3 characters
Ryo Hazuki
Kazuma Kiryu
Akira Yuki
Their second names,
Hazuki
Yuki
and Kiryu also has the same letters y,u,k,i in a different order.
Maybe I'm looking to far into it... but they are similar.
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Yu Suzuki
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Yu Suzuki
Mind blown!
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Obviously some sort of future space goddess.
(http://http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b127/8Billie8Joe8Luver121/ulala.jpg)
dead link...
(http://http://ui13.gamespot.com/940/sc5pt22_2.jpg)
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No one tell Eastside that Nagoshi's favorite game series is Mario, okay?
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Yu Suzuki
Mind blown!
Wait!
YU SuzuKI
Re-blown!