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Offline George

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Re: 2016 U.S. Presidential Election
« Reply #210 on: February 18, 2016, 04:32:35 pm »
National polls for a general election at this point in the race mean nothing, anything can change and does pretty fast. We are barely starting the primaries, come on.

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Re: 2016 U.S. Presidential Election
« Reply #211 on: February 18, 2016, 05:05:12 pm »
False. He never said Bush is to blame for 9/11, he said he didn't prevent it, didn't keep us safe and that they fell under his watch. Those are facts, unless you actually have prove otherwise.
True, the WTC attacks happened under his watch. But Trump should really take a gander at the 9/11 Commission Report to get a better understanding of what actually went wrong, because his claims that Bush knew of the impending attack, that he ignored Intelligence Briefings and the CIA are erroneous to say the least.

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Re: 2016 U.S. Presidential Election
« Reply #212 on: February 18, 2016, 07:48:10 pm »
True, the WTC attacks happened under his watch. But Trump should really take a gander at the 9/11 Commission Report to get a better understanding of what actually went wrong, because his claims that Bush knew of the impending attack, that he ignored Intelligence Briefings and the CIA are erroneous to say the least.
I think the issue here is that he is attacking the way they frame George Bush, 9/11 did happen in his watch but the way that the establishment makes it seem is that he 'kept us safe' which isn't accurate. He made some really bad decisions and the Iraq War is and will always be considered a failure.

Plus most of the RNC establishment make falsehoods up about Obama and its getting embarrassing, first was that he wasn't even American and he was. Yet a Canadian Ted Cruz is running on their side. Great double standards. I also don't like how they keep on repeating that the economy is worse off with Obama then George W. Bush, which isn't true at all.

I really think Republican voters are tired of establishment lies, fear mongering and doubling down on their mistakes that having Trump 'tell it how it is' is resonating with the Republican voters.

Offline Happy Cat

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Re: 2016 U.S. Presidential Election
« Reply #213 on: February 19, 2016, 12:17:15 am »
Trump is apparently really upset at Apple for taking a stance against the government, and now other tech companies are joining in on Apple's side to help fight our rights to privacy. Is pretty cool. Apple has a lot of money to get lawyers needed to make stuff happen.

No doubt this will be a big topic in debates now. Unless for some reason the debates intentionally ignore it.

Apple's official letter regarding Privacy
https://www.apple.com/customer-letter/

Blackberry's shown what side they support, too...


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Re: 2016 U.S. Presidential Election
« Reply #214 on: February 19, 2016, 01:45:37 am »
I republicans defend the second amendment, why no love for the fourth?

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Re: 2016 U.S. Presidential Election
« Reply #215 on: February 19, 2016, 03:37:45 am »
I really like to know that no authority will ever be able to invade my phone's privacy. Things can go awry fast, and I don't want anyone having that kind of power.
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Re: 2016 U.S. Presidential Election
« Reply #216 on: February 19, 2016, 10:13:13 am »
I republicans defend the second amendment, why no love for the fourth?

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Are you sure this is the amendment you were thinking of?

I really like to know that no authority will ever be able to invade my phone's privacy. Things can go awry fast, and I don't want anyone having that kind of power.

I don't get it either. I put tape over the cameras on my phone.

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Re: 2016 U.S. Presidential Election
« Reply #217 on: February 19, 2016, 11:45:25 am »
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Are you sure this is the amendment you were thinking of?

I don't get it either. I put tape over the cameras on my phone.
Yes, did you read it?

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Re: 2016 U.S. Presidential Election
« Reply #218 on: February 19, 2016, 02:04:39 pm »
I did. I just don't know what instance you're speaking of.

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Re: 2016 U.S. Presidential Election
« Reply #219 on: February 19, 2016, 03:22:04 pm »
The fact that the government shouldn't be searching our belongs, which include digital data. Unlike most Republicans, I happen to believe in the constitution of the country and not just when it benefits my view. That is why I support the second amendment as well.

Just sad that we already have our rights taken away and these idiots with guns don't know what they are on about. Their so busy hating Obama because he is black they haven't realized how they have been getting fucked.

Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmeURRrhvsI

Hillary needs to learn how to take hard questions instead of nagging at people like a mom. Keep your voice down.
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Re: 2016 U.S. Presidential Election
« Reply #220 on: February 19, 2016, 08:15:51 pm »
I thought the NSA were the ones spying on phones. Not the Republicans. I think the NSA is controlled inside the Pentagon.

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Re: 2016 U.S. Presidential Election
« Reply #221 on: February 19, 2016, 10:46:38 pm »
I said, that its sad that gun touting Americans are so busy protecting their second amendment rights but forget about all the other ones. Though Republicans all support it, so much so that they are demanding for Apple to give the feds a back door into encryption with their fear mongering.

Most of the issues I have with Republicans, I also have with Democrates, their just two parties supporting paid interest.

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Re: 2016 U.S. Presidential Election
« Reply #222 on: February 20, 2016, 01:16:48 pm »
I personally think there should be more than two parties. The Libertarians, the Greens, and the Constitutionality need to win more often too. Most countries have more than two parties.

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Re: 2016 U.S. Presidential Election
« Reply #223 on: February 20, 2016, 02:52:07 pm »
This is actually something that Bernie Sanders talked about in the last Town Hall, he supports this. He thinks the more ideas we have the better and since he is a life long Independent Hillary has been using it as a attacking point.

I think the days of establishment coming to a close. Even if a established candidate wins this election, they won't the next. The bigger the internet gets, the less the paid interest control the narrative.

But for sure, I think Libertarians, Greens and other parties should have big events and be treated with the same respect that Dems and Repubs get.

Offline JRcade19

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Re: 2016 U.S. Presidential Election
« Reply #224 on: February 20, 2016, 08:32:04 pm »
Another one bites the dust. Jeb's campaign is done today. 2016 heating up ever more.