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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Barry the Nomad on June 04, 2012, 07:49:17 am
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Sunday's pre-E3 video:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AkPdAWfFjI[/youtube]
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WII U WII U WII U WII U~!
Did you hear? Wii U is the big thing this year! Oh yes, and 3DS. I hope they talk about 3DS too.
On June 5th at 9am PDT Nintendo will have their big show. But I figured I'd make this topic early since they already had that little pre show yesterday which can be seen here: http://www.nintendo.com/nintendo_direct
So until tomorrow's show, speculate and discuss yesterday's video. Or in Shadi's case, hate hate hate. :P
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Me? I like Nintendo, I really do. But the Wii U just hasn't impressed me. Part of the reason is that it feels like Wii 2.0. And while I like the Wii, the novelty has worn off. The addition of a tablet video controller is interesting, but is far from knocking my socks off like the Wii did in 2006 or the Kinect did in 2010. I recall seeing both of those pieces of tech and thinking "holy shit, that's awesome!" and as time passed, I still enjoy both pieces of tech but am no longer amazed by them.
I guess that's what I was hoping would happen with Wii U, but instead its more of the same with small improvements. In the end, it all comes down to GAMES and thus far we've seen very little. I guess that's where Nintendo will have to prove themselves. I'm not a huge fan of Nintendo's constant sequels, so another Smash Bros and Pikmin does little for me. But I'd love to see a new fully 3D Mario game that isn't Galaxy 3. Or (GASP!) a new IP from Nintendo.
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I missed the pre-pre-E3 thing they had yesterday. I guess there was a lot of focus on the online, and social features of the Wii U. Some of them seem pretty interesting.
Built in live message boards for game assistance and such. They also have a standard controller for the thing that looks kind of like a nega-dual shock (buttons and analog sticks are switched around), and shaped kind of like a 360 controller.
They also detailed the changes they've made to the tablet controller since last year (better analog sticks, altered button placement, etc...).
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I liked what I saw yesterday, but I have no idea what it'll take to revert me into a rabid fanboy. The main advantage to keeping the Wii's controllers is that developers aren't guessing anymore how to use it, so the launch titles this time around should have much better quality motion controls (thanks to Wii Motion Plus).
Sadly, an HD upgrade of Wii Sports with online play/leaderboards could be enough to tip my hat to their side, and further burden my credit card debt.
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I'm really hoping for that new 3DS model to be announced.
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Yesterdays pre-show made it sound like 3DS would not be a highlight at the show. THey almost said it like it wouldn't feature at all.
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You could see it the other way around.
They spent most of their time showcasing the Wii U beforehand, so they'd have more time to dedicate to the 3DS at the conference.
Edit: Looks like Nintendo is going to have a 3rd press conference devoted specifically to the 3DS. It's going to run from 6pm to 7pm Pacific Time on Wednesday night.
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I'm going to second my request to unify all the E3 threads into one.
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I'll third that. It'd be nice to be able to talk about all the third party stuff without adding another thread on top.
An open world racing game from Criterion is fantastic news for me :).
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I'll third that. It'd be nice to be able to talk about all the third party stuff without adding another thread on top.
An open world racing game from Criterion is fantastic news for me :).
Is this the new NFS? I'm really keen for that, Hot Pursuit was great fun but I skipped The Run.
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Yup. It's Need for Speed: Most Wanted.
Just like Hot Pursuit, it's being developed by the folks behind the Burnout series.
Burnout Paradise was one of my favourite games of this generation without a doubt. From the sounds of things, this one looks like that, but with Police driving around.
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You can't second something that you yourself said.
Anyway, not unifying them. So quit complaining. I don't want to read about Sony stuff in a MS topic, or SmartGlass in a Nintendo topic. Three threads aren't going to kill you. End o' discusso.
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Nintendo starts in less than 2 hours. Wii is excited, are U excited?
http://e3.gamespot.com/press-conference/
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or SmartGlass in a Nintendo topic.
So how about that SmartGlass? :D
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Well that was a bit of a letdown.
The whole thing started off strong with Pikmin 3 and a new Super Mario Bros. title, but kind of went down from there.
They said they've got 23 Wii U games, but this is all I've noticed so far:
1. Pikmin 3
2. New Super Mario Bros. U
3. Mass Effect 3
4. Darksiders II
5. Batman: Arkham City - Armored Edition
6. ScribbleNauts: Unlimited
7. Wii Fit U
8. Rayman Legends
9. SiNG
10. Lego City
11. ZombiU
12. Assassin's Creed III
13. Avengers: Battle for Earth
14. Just Dance 4
15. Rabbids Land
16. NintendoLand
17. Project P-100
18. Aliens: Colonial Marines
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I had to switch from 3 different sources (Nintendo, IGN, g4tv) just to watch parts of it, damn feed kept dying. >:(
The main games that I care about are Pikmin 3, Lego City, ZombiU, and NintendoLand. Darksiders and Arkham could be good too, but it's not like I have to wait for the system to play them.
Mass Effect 3 though? Why bother? They should've announced the whole trilogy with new features, that would've made sense. Anyone who wants to play ME3 already did.
"Sing" will do well for a while to sell the system to casuals, or anyone who digs karaoke (a ton of people I know).
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That was really, really bad.
Now I know some defend it and say "oh, but Pikmin 3 looks fun", but this was a NEXT GEN CONSOLE LAUNCH. They have the IPs worthy of epic reveals. Remember the 3DS launch? So many big reveals. But Wii U? A ton of multi-plat titles, a lot of older titles ported over and a small number of exclusives.
Really, 3DS was the best bit, as all three titles looked like really fun Mario games.
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I'm a huge Nintendo fan, and I'm not going to defend that one bit.
I was really hoping for something more impressive.
Here's hoping they show something good at their third conference on Wednesday.
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A few impressions:
- Pikmin 3 looked interesting.
- I actually think New Super Mario Bros. U looked pretty good visually.
- I don't think Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition was the best game to show off.
- Montage time.
- Looks like Tekken Tag Tournament 2 on Wii U has exclusive content. I'm kinda interested in hearing more.
- At least we'll get more 3DS information tomorrow. I sure hope we get more games then what was already shown, though.
- Ugh, Ubisoft. We already saw what they're bringing to Wii U, it's so redundant seeing a big focus on that AGAIN.
- That being said, Rayman Legends looks amazing.
- Nintendo Land is basically if Wonderbook came at the end of the conference.
Overall, this didn't really help the Wii U's image too much. I guess what would've helped is talk about their online plan, show off how it's better than current gen if it is, etc. But there are some Wii U games that look good though.
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Some new Nintendo details:
- Battery life on the Wii U Gamepad is 3-5 hours depending on the brightness setting.
- If you are using two of the tablet controllers, it cuts the game's framerate in half (ie: 60fps goes down to 30fps).
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I think it was an ok showing, but nothing exceptional given what Nintendo is capable of. I'm not terribly excited after watching the conference though, so one could easily call it a hype-machine failure. The social features of the system seem like a good promise, but there wasn't any pricing or release date info, so its far from delivering an immediate desire to buy the damn thing.
Plenty more games will be revealed throughout the week, but it would've been nice to see more featured by Nintendo.
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Who is going to invest money on this? ??? 3-5 hour controller? Half FPS for 2 controllers.
A few mistakes.
1. No hardcore franchises shown. They could have taken it.They just needed to promise titles we knew where coming. Smash Bros, Zelda, Kirby, etc
2. Ports... if you show off OLD 360/PS3 games ON stage, ya doing it wrong.
3. Half the games looked like Dreamcast titles... and are launch titles for full price. FFS.
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Half FPS for 2 controllers.
It's the same as 1/2 fps for splitscreen. Not a huge deal.
Nintendo does have a long way to go before convincing most people to throw their money at the system. I can see the potential, but I'm far from decreeing that Nintendo did this system right and knocked their presentation out of the park. It wasn't the worst thing I've ever seen, but still not very exciting.
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The Pikmin 3 demo was OK, if you're into this particular franchise. What bugs me about this press conference, is Reggie and how the Nintendo guys handle their press conference. They make these Presentation 101 mistakes: Know your audience.
Microsoft's Don Mattrick has his cynical laughter, but Reggie talks to reporters as if he's giving a lecture, rather than creating excitement for the product. It's even worse this year. He's just droning, speaking very slowly and still being smug about it. Why wouldn't people be angry?
Another major issue, way too much focus on the new controller and very little focus on the actual machine, hence why so many people confused over what exactly is the Wii U.
New Super Mario Brothers U seems like a nice idea, but overall there seems to be the growing sentiment that the franchise is now becoming Nintendo's own Sonic in a way.
The 3rd Party stuff, I won't anything else that hasn't been already said. I not completely sold on using different screens to do different stuff. The Wii-U is not like the Nintendo DS, you dig?
The Wii Fit U/Just Dance segment was just a huge slap in the face.
Some of the 3DS stuff was good.
Zombi-U was the only thing worhwile.
I have no clue what Nintendoland is.