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Title: Favourite SEGA console (not design)
Post by: CrazyT on April 30, 2013, 05:57:05 pm
SEGA mega drive/genesis defenitly for me. It stands for everything I love about SEGA. Great games, great music with a nice edgy style.

Rocket Knight, Pulseman, Streets of rage, shinobi 3 etc. I also love the soundchip even though its limitations.

If I had to choose one era i'd want SEGA to look back upon and use as an example, it'd be the mega drive/genesis era no doubt.
Title: Re: Favourite SEGA console (not design)
Post by: Randroid on April 30, 2013, 07:08:48 pm
This is another tough one, but for me, Genesis takes the lead with Dreamcast as a close second. I judge all games, even modern ones, against the gameplay standards that those two systems established.

The Genesis had too many good games and too many hours sunk into it that it definitely has the most influence regarding my visual, musical and gaming tastes.
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Post by: Barry the Nomad on April 30, 2013, 07:31:30 pm
Gonna have to go with Dreamcast. I just love the library and all the surprises that can be found. So many unique titles covering every genre there is. The console itself is great and compact, and the features are excellent.

Genesis is a close second.
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Post by: stang2712 on May 01, 2013, 06:33:59 am
the dreamcast id say with the game gear a close runner up because the dreamcast is unique it has its own vibe to it not to mention how alot of the games can changes that vibe to for the genre speaking of the games they have variety unlike modern consoles
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Post by: Nameless 24 on May 01, 2013, 08:22:36 am
Mega Drive.
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Post by: ungibbed on May 01, 2013, 11:44:53 am
The Saturn will always be a treasure to me. I loved that system and seen the theoretical limits of the system pushed further and further time and time again. With or without the RAM expansion cart.

Many IP's were born and died with the system and a shame that many of the greatest are easily forgotten. It went before its time but the ruthless marketing of Sony was like a stake in our hearts at Sega while we pushed to get the best games over to the US shores as possible.

I'm glad that that I had handled all of Working Designs projects on a personal basis with code assistance and keeping the awesomeness coming while I worked at Sega but every Friday, more cardboard boxes in the hall was a scary sight

We fought many battles and lost the war when Sega did a massive downsizing and many were laid off. Many of which I considered key personnel in getting third party support. The Saturn did go down fighting but I still can't decide if I was lucky or unlucky enough to see the end.
Title: Re: Favourite SEGA console (not design)
Post by: semmie on May 01, 2013, 11:54:11 am
megadrive
Title: Re: Favourite SEGA console (not design)
Post by: crackdude on May 01, 2013, 01:52:11 pm
I CAN'T DECIDE.
Title: Re: Favourite SEGA console (not design)
Post by: semmie on May 01, 2013, 02:21:02 pm
seriously how can some choose dreamcast over genesis. im talking to the ones that actually lived during when megadrive just came out. surely the dreamcast is bad ass, but the md is so so better.

dc has this skies of arcadia which makes it appear number 1

but MD has loads of games to outrank dc so easy
ofcourse i can understand that peeps that found out that sega exists like some of heres first console is the dc. the ones that are young, and i respect that they say dc is number 1 but as for the olskool peeps who lived to buy sms when it just came out and the md?

i cant believe u would choose dc over md
that is weird
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Post by: mylifewithsega on May 01, 2013, 02:33:09 pm
Saturn. It was the first SEGA console I bought for myself, along with the 32X. I bought 'em both when they retired. However, the Saturn get's my attention more so than any other console on my shelf. I love the plethora of arcade ports, like Virtua Fighter 2, Virtua Cop, X-Men vs Street Fighter, Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter, Metal Slug, Elevator Action 2: The Return and the list goes on. That reminds; it's very import-friendly. Saturn has my favorite versions of Bio Hazard and Dracula X: Nocturne in the Moonlight. Not to mention its many exclusives, such as Panzer Dragoon Saga, Deep Fear and Die Hard Arcade. In addition, the controller's still my favorite. To top it all off, it even has VCD playback.

I'm not the biggest fan of the Dreamcast. Yes, it has great graphics and sound capabilities, as well as the ability to play VCDs. Still, I have more issues with that thing than any SEGA console that came before, thanks to faulty lasers and GD-ROMs. The VMU is awesome, but it eats through batteries far too quickly. The controller's fine with the exception of the D-pad and face-button layout. I've never been a fan of the "cross" design. The face-button layout irritates me whenever I try to play a fighting game. Admittedly, it has some of my favorite games, but it doesn't have as many as Saturn for me.

Don't get me wrong; I love all my SEGA consoles, but I favor Saturn. Runner's up would be Genesis (SEGA CD/32X), Master System and Game Gear. I've never played the SG-1000, so I can't say on that one.
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Post by: semmie on May 01, 2013, 03:11:22 pm
Saturn. It was the first SEGA console I bought for myself, along with the 32X. I bought 'em both when they retired. However, the Saturn get's my attention more so than any other console on my shelf. I love the plethora of arcade ports, like Virtua Fighter 2, Virtua Cop, X-Men vs Street Fighter, Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter, Metal Slug, Elevator Action 2: The Return and the list goes on. That reminds; it's very import-friendly. Saturn has my favorite versions of Bio Hazard and Dracula X: Nocturne in the Moonlight. Not to mention its many exclusives, such as Panzer Dragoon Saga, Deep Fear and Die Hard Arcade. In addition, the controller's still my favorite. To top it all off, it even has VCD playback.

I'm not the biggest fan of the Dreamcast. Yes, it has great graphics and sound capabilities, as well as the ability to play VCDs. Still, I have more issues with that thing than any SEGA console that came before, thanks to faulty lasers and GD-ROMs. The VMU is awesome, but it eats through batteries far too quickly. The controller's fine with the exception of the D-pad and face-button layout. I've never been a fan of the "cross" design. The face-button layout irritates me whenever I try to play a fighting game. Admittedly, it has some of my favorite games, but it doesn't have as many as Saturn for me.

Don't get me wrong; I love all my SEGA consoles, but I favor Saturn. Runner's up would be Genesis (SEGA CD/32X), Master System and Game Gear. I've never played the SG-1000, so I can't say on that one.

have u played battle garaga? the music man seriously
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Post by: crackdude on May 01, 2013, 03:55:01 pm
seriously how can some choose dreamcast over genesis. im talking to the ones that actually lived during when megadrive just came out. surely the dreamcast is bad ass, but the md is so so better.

dc has this skies of arcadia which makes it appear number 1

but MD has loads of games to outrank dc so easy
ofcourse i can understand that peeps that found out that sega exists like some of heres first console is the dc. the ones that are young, and i respect that they say dc is number 1 but as for the olskool peeps who lived to buy sms when it just came out and the md?

i cant believe u would choose dc over md
that is weird
I had both a MegaDrive and a Dreamcast, and though I'm freaking indecided, you're ill to think the MD outclasses the DC easily.
Title: Re: Favourite SEGA console (not design)
Post by: joe on May 03, 2013, 06:13:11 pm
Based on looks...well for it's time The Master System looked so much more advanced than the other consoles out at the time. 
Saturn looked great period.  Dreamcast looked geat as well.
Internal Design The Dreamcast/Genesis/and Master System were nicely done.  Dreamcast had great components....
But as a personal favorite just for where the system "fell" in my lifetime, I got to go with the Master System...then Dreamcast.
Title: Re: Favourite SEGA console (not design)
Post by: crackdude on May 04, 2013, 06:49:33 am
I have decided.

It is the Dreamcast.
Title: Re: Favourite SEGA console (not design)
Post by: Kevin-N on May 06, 2013, 09:14:14 am
Dreamcast, it has the best libary in a short time.
Title: Re: Favourite SEGA console (not design)
Post by: joe on May 07, 2013, 07:03:24 pm
I agree, but I would like to know what this Sega Spectrum is all about!!
Title: Re: Favourite SEGA console (not design)
Post by: TJKitsune on May 09, 2013, 09:06:46 am
I'm going to go with the Saturn.  I have more imports for that system than any other Sega system.  The controller is one of my personal favorites.  I'm also a larger arcade fan, and with all the fighting games and shmups the Saturn has, it's hard to cast it aside.
Title: Re: Favourite SEGA console (not design)
Post by: Emmett The Crab on May 09, 2013, 06:12:29 pm
Saturn was the peak of 2D animation in RPG's and platformers.  I'm almost 39 years old, I owned a Master System when they were new.   Genesis was cool, but the Saturn is the peak of the 2D era.
Title: Re: Favourite SEGA console (not design)
Post by: ungibbed on May 30, 2013, 01:51:10 am
Saturn was the peak of 2D animation in RPG's and platformers.  I'm almost 39 years old, I owned a Master System when they were new.   Genesis was cool, but the Saturn is the peak of the 2D era.

All this time I thought I was one of the oldest people here... 39 is coming at me fast as well.
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Post by: Emmett The Crab on May 30, 2013, 03:04:26 am
It's past now.   Next birthday might be a little depressing.
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Post by: Centrale on May 30, 2013, 09:53:20 am
I too am 39... and LOVING IT!
Title: Re: Favourite SEGA console (not design)
Post by: Truesonic on June 04, 2013, 05:33:48 pm
Gotta give it to the Sega Saturn Model 1, so sexy, sleek, and looks like a true gaming beast of a machine. I remember seeing this at my mom's friends house when I was young in Japan. I was amazed by it, based on appearance alone. Then I got to play it... Sega Saturn you were so under appreciated.

(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120802162745/lastlevel/images/4/4b/Sega_Saturn_(North_American_model).png)
Title: Re: Favourite SEGA console (not design)
Post by: pirovash88 on June 04, 2013, 06:31:42 pm
Gotta give it to the Genesis.

I still remember when i first played Sonic. It was my bro's b-day and my parents surprised em with a Genesis that came bundled with Sonic. Man.. Game blew me away, i remember not being able to keep up with Sonic's speed.

There were also other greats like Shinobi III, Toe Jam & Earl, Shining Force, Sonic 2, Streets of Rage, etc.. The list goes on and on.
Title: Re: Favourite SEGA console (not design)
Post by: ROJM on June 06, 2013, 10:45:23 am
Its a hard choice. If were talking about legends then no doubt, SMD and DC are the top because of what they represent in the history of Sega. MD the rise and popularity of sega and the DC wose affect on gaming as well as sega gamers with what appeared on that system is still being felt today. If were talking about sega hardcore, for me it has to be Saturn GG and SMS but the SMS stands out on top for me. The MS to me is the one as it is the essential representation of what Sega is about, its also the only Sega system that represents two different eras in sega gaming, Sega arcade ports/Sega and Sega after sonic.
Sega as an arcade port was getting games at that time to western gamers that at least looked like their arcade counterparts, and too me is the only system that did a proper port of Operation Wolf. The other part is Sega doing the job alone and coming up with titles you wouldn't think exist or get on any other system. After Sonic: is also important because the MS was boosted not only by a Sega who was great at its programming skills and made some cool games for it but it had titles from third  parties with games that MS owners didn't think would ever appear on their system.
Title: Re: Favourite SEGA console (not design)
Post by: Team Andromeda on June 07, 2013, 06:48:46 am
Saturn is mine it marks the time when SEGA Japan really got serious about In-House console development and also put its AM team to work on their own conversions and thanks to that AM#2, AM#3 were just on fire on the Saturn and it my eye's the Saturn also got the best of GameArts, Raizing, Treasure . Behind the Saturn the Mega CD comes 2nd and then its the Master System (which is sadly so underrated and overlooked)
Title: Re: Favourite SEGA console (not design)
Post by: Trippled on June 07, 2013, 03:49:08 pm
Dreamcast for me. All it need was more Model 3 ports...

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Post by: jonboy101 on June 15, 2013, 07:33:06 pm
Saturn by a mile. The console, to me, represents the high water mark of their Japanese stables. I have never been a big fan of Sonic or football, so those quasi-absences didn't really bother me.

Daytona USA, Sega Rally, Virtua Fighter 2, Fighters MegaMix, Virtual On, Last Bronx, Fighting Vipers, three Panzer Games, Dragon Force, Gaurdian Heros, three Shining games (including the last great one), Sakura Taisen, two unique Sonic Team efforts, and on and on and on.

The console represented the apex of 2D gaming, and, despite the naysayers, was a damn good 3D game maker as well. Shenmue running on the Saturn looks like some of the best graphics of the 32 bit era. Sonic X-Treme, even as an incomplete and unreleased game, continues to inspire the series, (and Mario, to boot). Sega also had the 3D controller, the net-link, the twin sticks and a slew of other great gadgets.

The Saturn was also definitely a time of trial. Being a Sega fan at the time was so bizarre. It was bizarre, because Sega was quickly throwing out or never mentioning many of their greatest sellers from the MD era. No Ecco, no Eternal Champions, no Streets of Rage, no (real) Phantasy Star, no ToeJam and Earl, barely any Sonic and so on. It was completely turning the page, but it was a hell of a turn.

I think what is most upsetting about the Saturn was that it could have been so much more. Despite that, I think it represents, particularly from a Japanese software perspective, the brightest time at Sega.
Title: Re: Favourite SEGA console (not design)
Post by: Berto on October 27, 2016, 04:15:01 am
Really surprised to see poll result.
Didn't expect that Saturn's the winner.

I love Saturn more than Dreamcast because it's full of Arcade's 2D fighting games from Capcom & SNK, and the controller (Japanese version) made it better.
2D fighting games was my favorite genre back then.
Still my favorite is Genesis/Megadrive.
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Post by: crackdude on October 27, 2016, 04:20:26 am
My vote from 2013 is on the Dreamcast, but over time I came to enjoy the MegaDrive and Saturn much more.
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Post by: SOUP on October 30, 2016, 12:56:55 pm
I'd go with the Dreamcast just based on the originality on display when it came to games and peripherals, but the Genesis is winning me over.

With the combo of Genesis/SEGA CD, and Power Base Converter, the library of quality games is pretty staggering.
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Post by: Dreampool on December 15, 2016, 03:46:27 pm
Dreamcast. It was the first console I bought with my own money. The unique library of games blew my mind.
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Post by: crackdude on December 16, 2016, 03:41:04 am
Dreamcast. It was the first console I bought with my own money. The unique library of games blew my mind.
Nice. Welcome to the forums!
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Post by: Deefy on December 16, 2016, 06:29:50 pm
Mmh ... I seemed to have already participated in the survey in the past, maybe I'd only done but with the thought ...
So, I voted for MD, my first SEGA console, if I think more deeply each SEGA console has at least one reason why I might prefer it.

Thus W the nostalgia!
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Post by: Barry the Nomad on December 17, 2016, 09:44:01 am
I know I probably said Dreamcast earlier in this thread, but to be honest by this point I can't really decide. Mega Drive/Genesis is a 16-bit powerhouse with a large library of fantastic games. Saturn is a tough nut to crack but once you do a little research you find some of SEGA's greatest games including top of the line 2D games (shame SEGA of America didn't push this aspect) and some surprising 3D games (NiGHTS, Panzer Dragoon).

Dreamcast was and is the first console to have 3D graphics with nothing holding the gameplay back, character models represented exactly what they were meant to be representing (no blocking blobs of polygons) and environments were immersive and recognizable (no fog, minimal pop-up). If the Genesis nailed 2D gaming and the Saturn perfected 2D, the Dreamcast nailed 3D gaming in a way that the Saturn never could... but looking back I don't think the Saturn ever was meant to. I blame the aspirations of SEGA's executives who tried to make the Saturn into a machine that it really was not.

Basically:
Master System: serviceable 2D games with some gems, but most were held back by hardware limitations
MD/Genesis: nailed 2D gaming, made attempts at 3D gaming with expansions but largely failed at this
Saturn: perfected 2D gaming, attempted 3D gaming with some successes but not many
Dreamcast: nailed 3D gaming and carried on perfecting 2D gaming, however 2D was never a focus

The SMS is the only SEGA console that I can really point to as being less than great, while the other three all shine in their own ways.
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Post by: NiGHTSDrEAMS on December 17, 2016, 10:32:20 am
I am being a little biased, so my opinion can only go so far. But I have sided with the SEGA Saturn, which I believe was one of the most under rated  systems even made. Not only do I think the graphic's for its time were elegant but very fluent. On top of that it was one of the first systems to present something that every system use's which is a home screen. Also the system provided internet with its  Sega NetLink. On top of all of that it had one of the greatest game library's, games such as NiGHTS into Dreams :P , all the Virtua Fighters (yes even kids), Vritua Cop 1 & 2, Fighters MegaMix, Daytona USA, Panzer Dragoon serious and on.


(But in the End all the Sega systems in my opinion where excellent) ;)
Title: Re: Favourite SEGA console (not design)
Post by: Centrale on December 18, 2016, 09:48:58 am
The SMS is the only SEGA console that I can really point to as being less than great, while the other three all shine in their own ways.

Ah, Barry, you know you really make my 8-bit heart ache saying such a thing. The Master System is an absolute beastlord with a killer library. I'd like to give you a list of games to check out... of course any Master System fan will have slightly different lists of the best of the best.
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Post by: Deefy on December 20, 2016, 09:54:37 pm
Ah, Barry, you know you really make my 8-bit heart ache saying such a thing. The Master System is an absolute beastlord with a killer library. I'd like to give you a list of games to check out... of course any Master System fan will have slightly different lists of the best of the best.

Barry is probably a bit too young to fully appreciate the Master System ...  :)) of course I'm joking, I'm not at all underestimating your videogaming culture, Barry, especially when it comes to SEGA.

Then it's also true that the Master System was most successful and had more widespread in Europe than in the US.
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Post by: crackdude on December 21, 2016, 03:32:12 am
Every day I get baffled by kids (in Portugal) that say the NES days must have been sweet. Nigga, there were no NES days in Portugal. We went from ZXSpectrum to SMS to MegaDrive
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Post by: pcm92 on December 21, 2016, 10:43:06 pm
Were there any others? I thought these were the only home consoles. Genesis, by the way.
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Post by: Berto on December 21, 2016, 11:10:00 pm
Were there any others? I thought these were the only home consoles. Genesis, by the way.

Assuming both SG-1000 and SG-1000 II went into Master System/MarkIII category,
there are still three more : SEGA Pico, Advanced Pico Beena, and Beena Lite.
Title: Re: Favourite SEGA console (not design)
Post by: Deefy on December 23, 2016, 12:20:42 am
Every day I get baffled by kids (in Portugal) that say the NES days must have been sweet. Nigga, there were no NES days in Portugal. We went from ZXSpectrum to SMS to MegaDrive

Whoa! ZXSpectrum = SMS = MegaDrive, pretty much the same PC/console transition that I did too, although the first two were not strictly my property.
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Post by: pcm92 on February 17, 2017, 09:15:59 pm
The Dreamcast was one of the most underrated consoles. Playstation came out just barely a year later. It played DVDs and the graphics were much better, leaving the Dreamcast to die very quickly in the West.

The one thing I don't understand is why the Dreamcast did not come with a zapper. That would have helped its popularity, along with the DVD thing. Sega 32x and Sega Saturn shouldn't have ever been made.
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Post by: pcm92 on February 21, 2017, 04:34:02 pm
*never been made.
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Post by: Centrale on February 22, 2017, 12:52:36 pm
To me the PS2's graphics had a more grainy, pixelated look than Dreamcast graphics. Probably because I was using the VGA adapter for the DC back in the day.
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Post by: Barry the Nomad on February 22, 2017, 03:27:53 pm
To me the PS2's graphics had a more grainy, pixelated look than Dreamcast graphics. Probably because I was using the VGA adapter for the DC back in the day.

I've been playing Yakuza 2 and damn, PS2 graphics on standard video out looks really shitty.
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Post by: crackdude on February 23, 2017, 02:53:13 am
Dreamcast had superior textures as well
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Post by: Barry the Nomad on March 09, 2017, 11:21:56 am
Goddamn, those votes... 9-9-9! Dreamcast wins in a tie!