Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001

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[MadeManG74]

[crackdude]

I love my Dreamcast. Forever and ever baby.

[MadeManG74]

^Going off-topic again I see? Please discuss Silvio Bursculoni.

[Sega Uranus]

I think the worst thing about the Dreamcast is that almost all of it's special games have moved onto other platforms and sometimes even made better. Where is the Saturn love?!

[Barry the Nomad]

Any Dreamcast game ported to the PS2 is still best on the Dreamcast simply because after ten years all THREE of my Dreamcast still work!

Meanwhile, the PS2 that I bought in 2002 is a piece of shit. The disc drive sticks and half the time when it powers up the video output is fucked (think slow motion black and white scrolling vertically).

I'd rather import Headhunter, Rez and Space Channel 5 Part 2 than attempt to play the PS2 versions.

[George]

I agree, PS2's break so fucking easily. Sony really can't make a quality PS2. I bought a slim one to play Yakuza 2, it got DRE in 45 mins. Yes, brand new, dead in under a hour.

That is when I just bought a PS3 that played PS2 games, plus I wanted Valkyria Chronicles and some other games at the time.

[Barry the Nomad]

How easy is it to find a PS3 that plays PS2 games? Are they considered uber expensive?

I'm considering a PS2 Slim so I can play (glaces over at the shelf and counts) the 18 PS2 games that I own, however a PS2-compatible PS3 would also do the job.

Oh Sony... why can't you not suck...

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[George]

Well it cost me 350 (shipped, with insurance) when I got it. I heard they can be sniped on ebay for under 280 if you look hard enough.

Now if Microsoft made a 360 that didn't give everyone problems i'd be in business. I have a disc read error. My friends 360 got fried (dunno, and the others have Red Rings of Death (out of warranty). Eeeeeeeeh.

[Barry the Nomad]

I've been having "Open Tray" errors on my 360 since November, but the damnedest thing is that it will do it for a week (I pop in a game, close the tray, it won't read the disc, open and close a few times until it works) and then it will go 2-3 weeks working just fine. I still have until the end of July before my warranty runs out, so I'm going to hold off until it's warmer out. Last thing I want is 20 inches of snow outside and no Bayonetta to keep me warm

You know why the Dreamcast is so damn reliable? It plays games and reads music CDs. THATS IT! No harddrives or blu-ray drives or DVD drives or automated sliding trays or complex shit. Just a simple pop open lid. I swear, all the Dreamcast has inside it is two gears, a spring and a piece of magic plastic that plays games.

[Sega Uranus]

Wii actually has less features than that, it does not play music CDs like every CD based game console ever has been able to do.

Now we should all talk about my favorite obscure extra for the Dreamcast. How every game had it's own CD image in the section on the main menu where you listen to music! Like how with every Genesis game I got to the first thing I would do is see what the character did when I waited around, with every Dreamcast game I got I would go into the music section to check out the image on the CD.  8-)

[George]

I've been having "Open Tray" errors on my 360 since November, but the damnedest thing is that it will do it for a week (I pop in a game, close the tray, it won't read the disc, open and close a few times until it works) and then it will go 2-3 weeks working just fine. I still have until the end of July before my warranty runs out, so I'm going to hold off until it's warmer out. Last thing I want is 20 inches of snow outside and no Bayonetta to keep me warm

You know why the Dreamcast is so damn reliable? It plays games and reads music CDs. THATS IT! No harddrives or blu-ray drives or DVD drives or automated sliding trays or complex shit. Just a simple pop open lid. I swear, all the Dreamcast has inside it is two gears, a spring and a piece of magic plastic that plays games.

Because playing Blu-rays or DVDs makes playing games harder? I don't understand? If you don't want it, don't use it. But I have a big Bluray/DVD collection and I appreciate having those features.

[MadeManG74]

I've been having "Open Tray" errors on my 360 since November, but the damnedest thing is that it will do it for a week (I pop in a game, close the tray, it won't read the disc, open and close a few times until it works) and then it will go 2-3 weeks working just fine. I still have until the end of July before my warranty runs out, so I'm going to hold off until it's warmer out. Last thing I want is 20 inches of snow outside and no Bayonetta to keep me warm

You know why the Dreamcast is so damn reliable? It plays games and reads music CDs. THATS IT! No harddrives or blu-ray drives or DVD drives or automated sliding trays or complex shit. Just a simple pop open lid. I swear, all the Dreamcast has inside it is two gears, a spring and a piece of magic plastic that plays games.

Because playing Blu-rays or DVDs makes playing games harder? I don't understand? If you don't want it, don't use it. But I have a big Bluray/DVD collection and I appreciate having those features.

I think he just means that the more tasks they have to program into a console, the more opportunity for something to fail. Kinda like how people sometimes prefer Revolvers to Semi-Automatics because there are less moving parts to fail (Although I've heard that might not be entirely accurate). Not sure if that's true or not, since I'm no console maker-guy.

Anyway, I agree with him that I don't like toaster slides and disc trays as much as pop top disc thingies, again it's just less parts to have to worry about failing, also you don't have to turn the console on or power it up every time you want to put in/take out a disc.

[crackdude]

Hey trivia question! Do you know how many moving parts the Mega Drive had inside? NONE! That's why every unit works great more than 20 years later!

New consoles plain suck in that regard.

Also, you need not to worry if you get RROD on your xbox. There's a repair kit that costs 20 bucks and works great..

I can't say the Dreamcast is the most reliable console.. My first one aways locked up at the loading screens. And now sometimes I have to open it up and clean the power board so that it won't restart all the time.
It takes care and attention. It's like having a sick puppy. You do it with so much joy and care..

[Barry the Nomad]

Because playing Blu-rays or DVDs makes playing games harder? I don't understand? If you don't want it, don't use it. But I have a big Bluray/DVD collection and I appreciate having those features.

No no, I wasn't attacking the ability to play movies, I meant (like MadeMan said) that the less operations and moving parts, the less opportunities the system has to fail. Like MadeMan, I don't know if this is true or not, however I see many more working systems from the third through fourth generation than I do from the fifth onwards (the Dreamcast being an exception).

My XBOX and PS2 both have disc tray problems despite only being 8 and 9 years old respectively. Meanwhile my junker Saturn has lasted 15 years problem free and my Genesis still feels brand new despite being 20 years old. Same goes for my Game Gear, Nomad, Pico (lol) and previously mentioned Dreamcasts.

I don't know how reliable GameCube's are nowadays, but I'm guessing they're reliable. Probably because they never get played (I kid, I kid).