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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: max_cady on July 13, 2011, 08:10:04 am
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With the movie coming out next week, I'm sure a lot of people are wanting to play a video game starring the iconic character.
Of course, it's not another tie-in, it's a movie based off the universe of the game, which all things considered isn't saying much.
I predict that Captain America: Super Soldier will most likely be better than Thor: God of Thunder, mostly because, unlike the other title, Marvel's big blockbuster has been a bit quiet, much like The Incredible Hulk.
While Sega's Iron Man was terrible, The Incredible Hulk got a bit less flak over the fact that there wasn't a huge spotlight on it, hence less studio meddling.
Next Level Games claims that they've been working on this title for over 3 years(and it certainly looks like a game that was released back then), hence had much less pressure to rush.
Will copying the playstyle of Batman: Arkham Asylum do this game any good? One can hope so.
Anyway, the game's out today in the US and in european countries this friday.
As the song goes, hoping for the best, but expecting the worst.
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Wonder if SEGA will be sending the 'bits crew some review copies?
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You know what, everytime i watch the trailers for this title, with Cap bouncing off the walls I can't help but think that if Sega west gets to do another SHINOBI game targetted for HD consoles they should at least use these guys.
Back to the topic,Cap shares the same thing with Hulk that it uses the same type of gameplay that was used in another game. I can understand how they were able to do that with the hulk but i dunno how they did it with Cap. True about IM i don't think it was finished considering what time they had but the potential was there it just never got reached. Shame that SL got screwed, they did what was asked of them and they got criticised on all sides then closed down yet their second game which isn't great sold over a million. Oh well, CAPTAIN AMERICA will probably sell thru thanks to the buzz for the movie and that's IF the movie is any good. As for THOR, NDS is the best version IMO and i thought the movie was good, better than what i was expecting which wasn't much.
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Games based off of borderline-retarded American propaganda comics made into lame fad films? Then made into quick crash-grab schemes by unheard-of developers with no history with SEGA?
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!
Hopefully Simon Jeffery's rot will be over after this embarrassment (or game if you consider it that) is out, then quickly forgotten. I hope SEGA enjoys the 4/10 average it will get. That should really make them look good to the public, press, and Metacritic. Apparently Iron Man, Iron Man again, Thor, The Hulk, and The Golden Compass were not humilitating enough.
This stuff makes Sonic look good in comparison.
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I do not think so. I actually think Super Soldier looks like a pretty good game. I am mildly excited for the HD release, but the other ones... Look a lot worse.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jyQhRSIYqQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jyQhRSIYqQ)
Here's the first 10 minutes of this game. Even the ingame engine seems similar to Batman: Arkham Asylum.
It looks Ok-ish. A lot of slow-mo.
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I have the PS3 version of the game pre-ordered so I plan on playing it as soon as it comes out. I'm excited!
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My game was shipped today, keep fingers crossed to play it on Friday, I still got 4 vacation days left.
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???? Are you guys U.K. or something? The game doesn't come out until next Tuesday here in the states.
I really enjoyed what I played at E3. Even the Wii version was fun. I'm predicting this to be the best Marvel/Sega game yet. (Not a hard feat to make.)
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???? Are you guys U.K. or something? The game doesn't come out until next Tuesday here in the states.
I really enjoyed what I played at E3. Even the Wii version was fun. I'm predicting this to be the best Marvel/Sega game yet. (Not a hard feat to make.)
I'm in the US, so I won't get it until Tuesday. ;)
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???? Are you guys U.K. or something? The game doesn't come out until next Tuesday here in the states.
I really enjoyed what I played at E3. Even the Wii version was fun. I'm predicting this to be the best Marvel/Sega game yet. (Not a hard feat to make.)
Not really, SPIDER MAN VS KINGPIN and SPIDERMAN THE VIDEO GAME as well as X MEN 2 CLONE WARS are considered the best MarvelXSega video games if not some of the best games based on a Marvel license.Hopefully CAPTAIN AMERICA will be able to join that pantheon.
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???? Are you guys U.K. or something? The game doesn't come out until next Tuesday here in the states.
I really enjoyed what I played at E3. Even the Wii version was fun. I'm predicting this to be the best Marvel/Sega game yet. (Not a hard feat to make.)
Wha...?
Yeah, the UK and general european release date is indeed, tomorrow, but whoever pre-ordered will hopefully have it in their mailbox on the same day.
The US date is indeed scheduled for July 19th, closer to the movie's release date on the 22nd.
Games are ussually released for in the US on a Tuesday, so I just assumed that US gamers already had it.
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The US date is indeed scheduled for July 19th, closer to the movie's release date on the 22nd.
Games are ussually released for in the US on a Tuesday, so I just assumed that US gamers already had it.
Especially because the game is CAPTAIN AMERICA. It is pretty damn weird.
Not really, SPIDER MAN VS KINGPIN and SPIDERMAN THE VIDEO GAME as well as X MEN 2 CLONE WARS are considered the best MarvelXSega video games if not some of the best games based on a Marvel license.Hopefully CAPTAIN AMERICA will be able to join that pantheon.
Right on, man!
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Especially because the game is CAPTAIN AMERICA. It is pretty damn weird.
You know you are correct that is werid and very stupid considering. But then I guess that's what happens when you put the Sega Europe boss in charge of Sega of America.
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Not really, SPIDER MAN VS KINGPIN and SPIDERMAN THE VIDEO GAME as well as X MEN 2 CLONE WARS are considered the best MarvelXSega video games if not some of the best games based on a Marvel license.Hopefully CAPTAIN AMERICA will be able to join that pantheon.
I meant current Gen under the current Marvel/Sega contract.
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I meant current Gen under the current Marvel/Sega contract.
Well so far the best game under the "current" contract is THOR, DS version.
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Surprise surprise, IGN gave it a 5/10.
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/118/1182188p1.html
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I got the game, PS3 version, this afternoon and I played the first three chapter...ummmh...
in general the title is how I expected, the overall quality, quite good specially if compared with things like THOR or Iron Man, graphically apart some flaw I'm favorably impressed, not that is remotely close to the state of the art but not bad, where can I find the weak points is in an excessive superficiality and futility of some situations and game mechanics, thing seen already in THOR, although I must say that the battle system is quite deep and satisfying, at least for now.
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A lot of the reviews I've read have, have indeed pointed that it's a pretty shallow title, exploration is pretty linear, despite all things, the acrobatics seems to be PoP for Dummies.
Eurogamer was surprisingly forgivable of some of it's flaws despite it's 5/10 review.
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I honestly can't express how excited I am to play this game. It really has become one of my most anticipated games of this year. :)
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Well I think the question is whether this was geared towards seasoned gamers or casuals who would pick up the title just for the movie and they don't want a complicated game. From playing it a bit, it resides in the middle of like most of the new Sega Marvel games, good ideas just not enough time to complete them. But its too early for me to give my final call on this game.
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Am I missing something? Why is everyone getting so excited for a licensed game by Sega?
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Am I missing something? Why is everyone getting so excited for a licensed game?
I can't speak for everyone else, but personally I feel the game will be a lot of fun. All the gameplay demos I've seen of it look really great. I also love the variety of the game's combat engine. That mixed with the platforming and little puzzle sections make it look like a lot of fun in my eyes. Picking up my copy of the game tomorrow morning, I'll give you my thoughts on it soon after. :)
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Am I missing something? Why is everyone getting so excited for a licensed game by Sega?
First of all, it is not "By SEGA".
Second, some of SEGA's licensed games are some of the best in the industry. Pretty much every Disney game they made on the Master System, Game Gear and Genesis consoles were masterpieces.
Lastly, some people like to play video games because they like video games and do not have a 90 average on Metacritic.
PS. I am not going to be getting this game. :-[
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I can't speak for everyone else, but personally I feel the game will be a lot of fun. All the gameplay demos I've seen of it look really great. I also love the variety of the game's combat engine. That mixed with the platforming and little puzzle sections make it look like a lot of fun in my eyes. Picking up my copy of the game tomorrow morning, I'll give you my thoughts on it soon after. :)
I do not want to dash your hopes, but even I entered with an open mind and was let down.
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Second, some of SEGA's licensed games are some of the best in the industry. Pretty much every Disney game they made on the Master System, Game Gear and Genesis consoles were masterpieces.
I was gaming during that era and, yes, those games on the Genesis were great games ("Masterpieces" is going a bit far) but what does that have to do with this? Sega's recent track record with licensed games has been pretty poor and that's what matters here.
Lastly, some people like to play video games because they like video games and do not have a 90 average on Metacritic.
Yeah I'm one of those people, I love tons of games that average below 90....Don't see what that has to do with crappy licensed games like Iron Man 2 but there ya go.
Anyway, eh. I'm glad a Sega-branded licensed game aimed to be something better but I don't see why you guys expected miracles. The problem with licensed games is the limited amount of time the developers have to make them and the desire to bring in as many casual dollars as possible. Even the slightest complexity may put off the casual audience the company is aiming to attract. (People who don't play a lot of video games but saw a movie that they liked and wanted to "play" it.)
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I guess my excitement, so to speak, comes from the fact that Caps, out of all of the Marvel heroes, is my favorite of them all. The fact that it's also based it's template on Batman: Arkham Asylum is something that does indeed interest me.
But yes, I do concede that it's an average looking title, but as far as these latest Sega licensed titles, average is a step in the right direction, when all the others that came before this, were atrocious.
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Everyone should know by now that Cosmic Castaway is excited by everything, he wakes up in the morning excited to be alive.
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Everyone should know by now that Cosmic Castaway is excited by everything, he wakes up in the morning excited to be alive.
This is indeed true. :)
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I was gaming during that era and, yes, those games on the Genesis were great games ("Masterpieces" is going a bit far) but what does that have to do with this? Sega's recent track record with licensed games has been pretty poor and that's what matters here.
No it isn't, Masterpieces is the correct word because that's exactly what they are. There has not been a single Disney game since that era that can get close to the Illusion series and the Donald duck games not to mention the collaboration between Sega and Virgin with Aladdin.
I won't of course mention the genesis era Marvel games or even TAZMANIA and the LOONEY TUNES license, or POWER RANGERS either and of course the arcade versions of JURASSIC PARK, DRAGON BALL Z and ALIEN 3 during that period. Indeed as far as i'm concerned that was a golden age of Sega licensed games.
The only reason we could moan about the current Marvel games is really down to Simon Jeffery and his actions concerning these titles. However if we look at what Sega japan has done with recent licenses like giving the BLEACH license to designers Treasure and the recent inhouse Rambo arcade game as well as Arc System works version of FIST OF THE NORTH STAR when Sega had the license, you can see clearly that its not Sega as a whole that has lost the knack for giving out good licensed games, it was Jeffery giving out contracts to companies that weren't up to the job especially with the demands that he put some of them through. The only good thing Jeffery did with the license thing was getting ALIENS and giving one of the contracts to Gearbox. But he's gone now and Hayes is in charge so we will see if he can deliver a great licensed game when the opportunity comes along.
PS. I am not going to be getting this game. :-[
Why not?
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I was gaming during that era and, yes, those games on the Genesis were great games ("Masterpieces" is going a bit far) but what does that have to do with this? Sega's recent track record with licensed games has been pretty poor and that's what matters here.
I do not think so. If you said recent licensed outings I would understand, but even then there are some great games like Thor DS. I am sure Aliens: Colonial Marines and the other DS game will be fantastic as well.
As of late these are not even developed by SEGA usually so they should not be getting the blunt of the punishment. Every publisher releases poor quality tie-ins, but there is always a group of people who can enjoy them in some form. I even saw people defending the first Iron Man game... Not Iron Man 2, though. That was just too much.
Anyway, eh. I'm glad a Sega-branded licensed game aimed to be something better but I don't see why you guys expected miracles. The problem with licensed games is the limited amount of time the developers have to make them and the desire to bring in as many casual dollars as possible. Even the slightest complexity may put off the casual audience the company is aiming to attract. (People who don't play a lot of video games but saw a movie that they liked and wanted to "play" it.)
No one here was really expecting a AAA release, just a decent beat em up action/adventure game.
Something like this turning out poorly is kind of a bad thing though, as far as I know, the game has been in development for over two years. Though, I guess this is Next Level Games' first HD release.
Either way, sorry if I came off a little overly defensive.
No it isn't, Masterpieces is the correct word because that's exactly what they are. There has not been a single Disney game since that era that can get close to the Illusion series and the Donald duck games not to mention the collaboration between Sega and Virgin with Aladdin.
I won't of course mention the genesis era Marvel games or even TAZMANIA and the LOONEY TUNES license, or POWER RANGERS either and of course the arcade versions of JURASSIC PARK, DRAGON BALL Z and ALIEN 3 during that period. Indeed as far as i'm concerned that was a golden age of Sega licensed games.
The only reason we could moan about the current Marvel games is really down to Simon Jeffery and his actions concerning these titles. However if we look at what Sega japan has done with recent licenses like giving the BLEACH license to designers Treasure and the recent inhouse Rambo arcade game as well as Arc System works version of FIST OF THE NORTH STAR when Sega had the license, you can see clearly that its not Sega as a whole that has lost the knack for giving out good licensed games, it was Jeffery giving out contracts to companies that weren't up to the job especially with the demands that he put some of them through. The only good thing Jeffery did with the license thing was getting ALIENS and giving one of the contracts to Gearbox. But he's gone now and Hayes is in charge so we will see if he can deliver a great licensed game when the opportunity comes along.
Amen.
It is a bit of a double edged sword though, because SEGA cannot go back to basically all of these. People who have a passing interest in game history that do not know much about SEGA just do not put a second thought into games like the Illusion series because they are not SEGA characters. I mean, if you remove all of SEGA's Disney games for their library when comparing platformers to the Super Nintendo the console looks pretty weak, but with them I personally believe (with of course Sonic, Shinobi, Ristar and the like) the Genesis/Mega Drive just crushes it.
Personally if I was a higher-up there I would be re-releasing these games with new characters. I know people would react poorly to that initially, but I think (even though I do not like him too much) characters like Alex Kidd would fit in some of these games. I know I would purchase almost all of them again... Not Fantasia though.
Why not?
I have been trying to cut back on game purchases lately, and $60 games that are around 7 hours in length are extremely, extremely low on my list.
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In the early '90's, 75% of my Genesis games were Disney titles. I was a bit embarrassed when my friends came over and saw all these Mickey Mouse games (I was under the impression that real boys only owned Madden and Mortal Kombat). But now, knowing the history and developers behind those games, I totally get why I loved stuff like Aladdin, Quack Shot and the Illusion games. Had I known they were SEGA developed, I would have felt a bit better about showing my games off to my friends.
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I've beaten the first boss of the game and I am now at Chapter 6. Thus far, it has been extremely fun! The basic combat is similar to Arkham Asylum but there are so many more things you can do that make it even more engaging like the "crippling strikes" and "weaponizing" abilities. That mixed with the various moves you can do with the shield just make the combat so much fun to play! I'm very eager to play more.
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Just picked up the PS3 version. The combat gameplay is excellent and very similar to Arkham Asylum. So far, so good.
On the graphics, while the models are suberb, for some reason, the lips are really fat and the talking doesn't always match to the lip movement. Also, while I'm in the plane, I can look out the window and notice that the plane isn't really moving. The mountain backgrounds are not moving forward. Odd.
EDIT: I am LOVING this game! Yea, it steal heavily from Arkham Asylum, but it steals all the good parts and uses them well. Could be the best Marvel movie games since Spider-Man 2.
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I have now beaten the second boss (which was a great fight) and the game is still loads of fun. I'm loving the enemy variety in this game as well. In the one of the last sections I played through you fought some enemies with telekinetic abilities. Weaponizing those guys was so satisfying!
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No it isn't, Masterpieces is the correct word because that's exactly what they are. There has not been a single Disney game since that era that can get close to the Illusion series and the Donald duck games not to mention the collaboration between Sega and Virgin with Aladdin.
I'd agree that the Castle of Illusion/World of Illusion games can be considered masterpieces (especially World, IMO) but games like Jurassic Park and Lion King and Animaniacs I'd more say were great games. But that's just my opinion. Masterpiece is an awfully big word, at least, on my scale.
Anyway.
I am sure Aliens: Colonial Marines and the other DS game will be fantastic as well.
Aliens is a bit of a different story since it's not coming out to tie in with a specific release (like an Aliens movie) but rather its own game which has spent many years in development. Sega's other published licensed games don't often have that luxury.
sorry if I came off a little overly defensive.
Sorry if I came off as overly....offensive. :]
As of late these are not even developed by SEGA usually so they should not be getting the blunt of the punishment.
Eh. I think Sega should be a bit more discerning about the games they put their name on, whether they developed them in-house or not. A publisher is a brand-name, and releasing bad games weakens, not strengthens, the brand name.
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I'd agree that the Castle of Illusion/World of Illusion games can be considered masterpieces (especially World, IMO) but games like Jurassic Park and Lion King and Animaniacs I'd more say were great games. But that's just my opinion. Masterpiece is an awfully big word, at least, on my scale.
I never said JURASSIC PARK arcade was a masterpeice. I specifically mentioned Sega's disney titles, the disney games i mentioned as being masterpeices. The other games i then went on to mention was to showcase that Sega at that period was producing a lot of good to great licensed games. BTW Animanics and Lion kong weren't made or published by Sega.
Aliens is a bit of a different story since it's not coming out to tie in with a specific release (like an Aliens movie) but rather its own game which has spent many years in development. Sega's other published licensed games don't often have that luxury.
Good point but this is a point that's moot. JURASSIC PARK ARCADE and ALIEN 3 THE GUN weren't based entirely on their respective films either. JPA game story is set a few months after the events of the first movie,A3 was a sidestory to the film. It is possible to make a good game to tie in with the film, it just depends on the developer. Just because the current franchise of ALIEN games ins't tying in with anything does not automatically equal that the game will be good because of it. I think its down to the mentality to todays developers compared to the ones back in the genesis era. Today's developers keep making banal excuses on why they can't make a good game based on a movie and that's exactly what it is BANAL. Looking at SegaxMarvel deal so far weve had two games based on the actual movies while three titles that aren't. And what do we have? IRON MAN, wasted potential weak title. HULK better than IM but marginally decent. While THOR and IM2 are weak crap games. Thor DS and Cap are moderatly good. Why? Because the developers of the last two bothered to make a decent game. It has nothing to do whether the game ties in or uses the plot of whatever it was based on, if the developers are talentless hacks then that's what the game is going to end up as. ALIENS and THOR DS ended or may end up being good games because the developer behind those games have a decent pedigree.
Eh. I think Sega should be a bit more discerning about the games they put their name on, whether they developed them in-house or not. A publisher is a brand-name, and releasing bad games weakens, not strengthens, the brand name.
Again that's more to do with who was in charge of Sega of america at the time and that was Simon jeffery.He's gone but they still have to deal with whatever he signed up with in order to make any profit. Hayes has canned most of the games he comissoned anyway its only the Marvel deal that was left with Avengers.
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never said JURASSIC PARK arcade was a masterpeice. I specifically mentioned Sega's disney titles, the disney games i mentioned as being masterpeices. The other games i then went on to mention was to showcase that Sega at that period was producing a lot of good to great licensed games. BTW Animanics and Lion kong weren't made or published by Sega.
Licensed games in general were of better quality back then.
I never played Jurassic Park Arcade, just whichever one was on Genesis.
Thor DS and Cap are moderatly good. Why? Because the developers of the last two bothered to make a decent game.
It's easier to make a DS game in a shorter period of time than a console game. It's much less demanding visually and scale-wise.
And no offense dude but even these "good" games you mention have gotten mixed reviews, at best, from critics. Thor DS is averaging a 64 and Captain America in the 50s. Segabits.com forums is the only place where anybody is praising these games....
Generally licensed games aren't great and you can be spending your money elsewhere. Those that are truly excellent (War for Cybertron, Chronicles of Riddick) never seem to come from Sega. And I don't see why you'd blame Simon Jeffrey, he's been gone for a long time, his ghost isn't still haunting these developers and forcing their games to be bad. Mike Hayes is the one in charge and yes Iron Man 2 was made under his watch.
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This was such an awesome boss fight. Loved it! :D
I think I'm approaching the end and the game just keeps getting more and more fun. The environments of this game are quite nice looking. There have been a couple of times I've been outdoors and the mountains and forestation are quite beautiful.
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Licensed games in general were of better quality back then.
I never played Jurassic Park Arcade, just whichever one was on Genesis.
Not really there were plenty of dreadful licensed Mega Drive and Snes games (just play the likes of Judge Dread) that were 10 a penny back in the 16 bit days . Jurassic Park : The Lost World is to this very day the best light gun game I have ever played , and I must say the Mega CD version of Jurassic Park is an overlooked and underrated classic, and is imo a masterpiece.
Those that are truly excellent (War for Cybertron, Chronicles of Riddick) never seem to come from Sega.
The worst part of War of Cybertron is it's made by SAMMY's ex USA studio , maybe it would have better to keep them instead of buying Secret Level , but I quite like the Iron man games in truth
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but I quite like the Iron man games in truth
You're one of the few.
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Licensed games in general were of better quality back then.
Someone already dealt with that answer, but I'll throw in BATMAN RETURNS being a very average game from Sega and TAILSPIN was crap as well as FANTASIA as you have already mentioned.
I never played Jurassic Park Arcade, just whichever one was on Genesis.
RAMPAGE EDITION was alright i suppose.
It's easier to make a DS game in a shorter period of time than a console game. It's much less demanding visually and scale-wise.
Again that doesn't make for a good game does it? There's plenty of DS games that are crap that had the same dev cycle and other stuff you described. It all depends whether the developer knows what they're doing and the game idea/design/mechanics were good enough in the first place.
And no offense dude but even these "good" games you mention have gotten mixed reviews, at best, from critics. Thor DS is averaging a 64 and Captain America in the 50s. Segabits.com forums is the only place where anybody is praising these games....
Not really, many of the comic book forums are praising Cap and believe you me that is saying something considering that they've been screaming after Sega's guts for ruining their favourite marvel characters.And no offense dude, but compared to the other Marvel movie tie in games from Sega that has been recently released, Cap and THOR DS are good if not better. Anyone that's actually played them can testify to that.
Generally licensed games aren't great and you can be spending your money elsewhere. Those that are truly excellent (War for Cybertron, Chronicles of Riddick) never seem to come from Sega. And I don't see why you'd blame Simon Jeffrey, he's been gone for a long time, his ghost isn't still haunting these developers and forcing their games to be bad. Mike Hayes is the one in charge and yes Iron Man 2 was made under his watch.
The game was commisoned under Jeffery, ALL the Marvel games were, it takes at least two years dev cycle for any of the games to be ready.IRON MAN 2 was already ready by the time Hayes took over and THOR and the other titles were more likely halfway into their respective cycle. So yes i can blame Jeffery.Considering IM2 was released in 2010 and the other two in 2011 I very much doubt Hayes had any control of where the game was heading because the marvel deal is important to Sega. He wasn't going to suddenly cancel the titles especially when there wasn't a suitable backup. Anyway we all know what he did when he took over Sega of america, he closed down Secret level and basically turned Sega of America in to a digital download distrubutor.
There are good licensed games from Sega its just you obviously haven't played them, if you had you wouldn't be generalising about Sega doing crap licenses when it was one division of Sega responsible for the turd of games that happened to be based on licensed titles. As for the other titles I mentioned RAMBO and the rest, also TRANSFORMERS THE SHOOTING was a good LG game from Sega but of course it wasn't released outside of Japan.
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I don't have much to say that -nSega54- hasn't already said it.
It's hard to accuse a video games studios for picking up a license for the next biggest film or hot TV property for a profit driven motif, because everybody does it. Namco-Bandai's meal ticket is focused more on Ben 10 and Dragon Ball games. I don't even want to get into Warner Brothers and Activision's perpetual rape of the X-men, Transformers and Spiderman franchises. EA and Disney can sometimes chuck a clunker(like the horrible GI Joe game tie-in).
It's pointless to argue that company X is worse than Y due to a bad movie and TV show game tie-in, though it is noticiable that Sega tends to get dogpilled more often other game studios that also produce roughly the same garbage, a slap on the wrist is the worst case scenario.
Indie comic book companies also depend on those names to atract attention.
I'm impressed that Sega managed to get these 4 major Marvel characters and since then, Caps was always going to be that one title that I wanted to get, when announced.
Some titles were understandable, such as Golden Compass, it was meant to be the next big fantasy series, that was until it bombed hard. The most puzzling was the Planet 51 movie. An animated movie that was already kinda being buried because it was going to be a bad movie and bomb anyway.
The Aliens, AVP and Bleach meal-tickets seem to have been a far more consistent affair.
I assume that after Caps is out, Sega's deal wil likely expire, unless an Iron Man 3 game tie-in will still be in the cards.
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After finishing the game I can now say the Captain America: Super Soldier is among my favorite superhero games as well as one of my favorite games of this year. The super fun gameplay, good music, story and some pretty visuals made it an excellent experience for me and I'm so glad I decided to buy it. :)
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The worst part of War of Cybertron is it's made by SAMMY's ex USA studio , maybe it would have better to keep them instead of buying Secret Level , but I quite like the Iron man games in truth
True, and moreover after the merger, SEGA was also found to own DIMPS to which both companies, SEGA and Sammy, had a share already before, except then sell a quota, which did not allow more the studio to be a subsidiary of the group, since then so DIMPS work with SEGA only on the SONIC franchise.
A situation that I think, not many were aware(myself included), I "discovered" browsing through the financial reports of this year, and that does not inspire me any good, is that until last fiscal year SS enumerated among the companies controlled........PLATINUMGAMES, while now the report says that is no longer so motivating this with the fact that the holding has removed interests from the company.
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And no offense dude, but compared to the other Marvel movie tie in games from Sega that has been recently released, Cap and THOR DS are good if not better. Anyone that's actually played them can testify to that.
Nobody's arguing that Captain America isn't better than some of the garbage Sega has put out, like Iron Man and Golden Compass. ....that isn't my point. That doesn't automatically make a 6-hour game with bland-looking environments and dull exploration suddenly "good" it makes it "not as bad" as past releases. Setting the bar low doesn't mean average games should be given a free pass.
The game was commisoned under Jeffery, ALL the Marvel games were, it takes at least two years dev cycle for any of the games to be ready.IRON MAN 2 was already ready by the time Hayes took over and THOR and the other titles were more likely halfway into their respective cycle. So yes i can blame Jeffery.Considering IM2 was released in 2010 and the other two in 2011 I very much doubt Hayes had any control of where the game was heading because the marvel deal is important to Sega. He wasn't going to suddenly cancel the titles especially when there wasn't a suitable backup. Anyway we all know what he did when he took over Sega of america, he closed down Secret level and basically turned Sega of America in to a digital download distrubutor.
There are good licensed games from Sega its just you obviously haven't played them, if you had you wouldn't be generalising about Sega doing crap licenses when it was one division of Sega responsible for the turd of games that happened to be based on licensed titles. As for the other titles I mentioned RAMBO and the rest, also TRANSFORMERS THE SHOOTING was a good LG game from Sega but of course it wasn't released outside of Japan.
Good point, I s'pose. We'll have to see where Sega's future licenses take them.
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I wouldn't trust the critics with this one nSega54. The PS3/360 version of the game is seriously fun. :D
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@-nSega54-
Trust me, nobody's giving this a free pass. Getting in the right direction by hiring better devs to work on this title is something, that they should've done from the start, not after the... what? Their fifth attempt at a decent movie tie-in? There's no excuse.
Had Sega's game tie-ins started at the same quality as Next Gen Levels attempt, then it would've been somewhat acceptable.
It's not in the same league as Batman: Arkham Asylum, but how many horrible Batman games had we have to go through before someone at Eidos had the presence of mind to actually take the series into a bold new direction?
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Had Sega's game tie-ins started at the same quality as Next Gen Levels attempt, then it would've been somewhat acceptable.
It's not in the same league as Batman: Arkham Asylum, but how many horrible Batman games had we have to go through before someone at Eidos had the presence of mind to actually take the series into a bold new direction?
Batman has a more robust and popular Rouges gallery and the environment is different.
As a knockoff of Arkham Asylum, it does a much better job than Thor did as a GoW knockoff. It copied everything that made AA fun and did it well.
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I'm glad to see this is a step in a better direction and I'm glad it's better than Sega's Marvel abominations, lol, but it's pretty clear that Sega still has a long way to go before publishing the next Arkham Asylum or War for Cybertron.
Aliens: Colonial Marines might be it.
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It's not in the same league as Batman: Arkham Asylum, but how many horrible Batman games had we have to go through before someone at Eidos had the presence of mind to actually take the series into a bold new direction?
I happen to think Batman AA to be one of the most overrated games of all time and found dull and boring to play,sure it was a well programmed and made game, I just didn't find fun to play at all. Also bare in mind this wasn't a Film-Tie- In game, where developers have to work to strict deadlines (to come out at the same time of the film) and where issues like the look of the Film, Special Effects, scripts are being constantly changed right up till and even in Post Production... Which is just a nightmare for even the best developer
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Nobody's arguing that Captain America isn't better than some of the garbage Sega has put out, like Iron Man and Golden Compass. ....that isn't my point. That doesn't automatically make a 6-hour game with bland-looking environments and dull exploration suddenly "good" it makes it "not as bad" as past releases. Setting the bar low doesn't mean average games should be given a free pass.
Sorry but I'm judging it on gameplay ability alone, those Marvel games mentioned(GOLDEN COMPASS last I checked isn't a Marvel game) Cap is quite enjoyable to play and the level design and etc pans out nicely,and THOR (DS version) is definatly great. Just because the game has mixed reviews doesn't really mean its average at best either or if we go by that logic most of the Marvel films that sega has the license to including the recent Captain America film has all had mixed reviews. I suggest you actually play one or both of these games at least instead of going by what metacritic says. What's happened to gamers? There was a time they use to actually PLAY the game before going by what some review said. Its personal taste, if you like superhero games and are a fan of marvel in general, but in my experience of playing Sega games specifically Sega western made titles and compare them overall these titles won't knock off genesis Spider man,the arcade version or the second Xmen games any time soon,compared to the recent Marvel games they're at the top of the tree and in the list of great licensed titles? Well they're quite low on the list. Point is they're better than the crap before and that's what everyone wants. But let's not exaggerate the situation about these titles or about sega "losing" its knack to make a licensed title.
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I'm not a big fan of superhero games or superheroes in general, so I likely wouldn't have picked up Captain America either way, I'm just sick of seeing SEGA's yearly review score average dragged down by their licensed titles, which are often their lowest-scoring games of any given year.
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To be fair, any licensed game released by any company is likely going to have a terrible score.
Green Lantern: Rise of the Manhunters, which was announced about a year ago, it was stated that GL: RoM was going to be in the same vein as Batman: Arkham Asylum. It was done by the team that did that terrible GI Joe: Rise of Cobra game.
Warner Brothers sent it out to die about a week before the movie's debut. From what I heard, it's even worse than Thor: God of Thunder.
That being said, I started playing Captain America: Super Soldier and quite frankly, it's workman-like. It's funny because generally, licensed games ussually rip off gameplay styles of other more popular titles and this one, rips off of another licensed game.
Oddly enough, because of the setting, it feels like an homage to the classic Wolfenstein game, because you are wandering around in a castle and yeah, picking up some artifacts, reminded me so much of that FPS.
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To be fair, any licensed game released by any company is likely going to have a terrible score.
Green Lantern: Rise of the Manhunters, which was announced about a year ago, it was stated that GL: RoM was going to be in the same vein as Batman: Arkham Asylum. It was done by the team that did that terrible GI Joe: Rise of Cobra game.
Warner Brothers sent it out to die about a week before the movie's debut. From what I heard, it's even worse than Thor: God of Thunder.
Eh. I've played both games and while Green Lantern's not great or anything, it's a bit better than Thor IMO.
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Okay. I stand corrected then.
I was reading a couple of reviews about Caps, as I had my first major boss battle with one of the main villains and I enjoyed it.
I fumbeled with the controls a bit, it's more about the timing. Caps takedown's on the regular enemies are good-ish, but a lot of it, but the big bosses have some very satisfying takedowns.
Though, I've encountered some weird stuff, you see apparentely I was supossed to face Two Scorcher thugs, one after the other, yet when I climbed up the ladder, the game just assumed that I beaten the thug and had moved on and it switched me to the next scripted scene. There's also a point where I planted a bomb and was supossed to run away within 30 seconds, some thugs showed up but I outran them anyway and they just dissapeared, some random weirdness here and there, but overall pretty solid.
Now, one thing that I found odd was the way that they described the pillaging and destruction of priceless art (as part of collecting), IGN's Kupra writes:
The first kind consists of top-secret Hydra files, film reels, schematics, and dossiers. And you won't have to search long to find them – they're indiscreetly plonked behind explosive canisters or in the middle of open spaces (you know, the places where you'd usually keep confidential material). With every item you collect, you'll amass Intel points, eventually unlocking new abilities.
But throw in the additional collectibles – of which there are many – and the environment quickly becomes cluttered. The range of things to collect is beyond absurd.
In throwaway dialogue Steve Rogers proudly reminds us of his impeccable American credentials. He's an individual yet equal to his peers, with an unwavering belief in freedom and democracy. So it's more than a tad perverse that the game rewards you for indulging in two of the Nazi's favourite pastimes: plundering and the destruction of fine art.
It feels like a node to the old Wolfenstein games, though, again those other collectibles are mostly optional. You can also smash Nazi equipment lab and other military equipment to your heart's content and the game tracks that as well.
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I rather enjoyed the collectables. The film reels and Zemo diaries are particularly interesting.
Plus, picking up the dossiers and such gives Intel points which are needed to purchase upgrades.
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Also, Captain America has the super power of an infinite back pocket. XD
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True, and moreover after the merger, SEGA was also found to own DIMPS to which both companies, SEGA and Sammy, had a share already before, except then sell a quota, which did not allow more the studio to be a subsidiary of the group, since then so DIMPS work with SEGA only on the SONIC franchise.
Which is a waste,they have some of the best versus programmers/developers in the buisness yet Sega has never really ultilised that from them.
A situation that I think, not many were aware(myself included), I "discovered" browsing through the financial reports of this year, and that does not inspire me any good, is that until last fiscal year SS enumerated among the companies controlled........PLATINUMGAMES, while now the report says that is no longer so motivating this with the fact that the holding has removed interests from the company.
Well Sega probably invested in them when the group initially formed and now the company took a buyout share option. I don't think PG wants to be under another "shogun" like they were with Capcom.But the reports at least the public ones miss out companies and subsideries that Sega owns all the time,its always been like that. The actual full reports to shareholders usually have everything in full detail. The public ones are really there to serve the media and to attract potential investors.
I don't have much to say that -nSega54- hasn't already said it.
It's hard to accuse a video games studios for picking up a license for the next biggest film or hot TV property for a profit driven motif, because everybody does it. Namco-Bandai's meal ticket is focused more on Ben 10 and Dragon Ball games. I don't even want to get into Warner Brothers and Activision's perpetual rape of the X-men, Transformers and Spiderman franchises. EA and Disney can sometimes chuck a clunker(like the horrible GI Joe game tie-in).
It's pointless to argue that company X is worse than Y due to a bad movie and TV show game tie-in, though it is noticiable that Sega tends to get dogpilled more often other game studios that also produce roughly the same garbage, a slap on the wrist is the worst case scenario.
Indie comic book companies also depend on those names to atract attention.
I'm impressed that Sega managed to get these 4 major Marvel characters and since then, Caps was always going to be that one title that I wanted to get, when announced.
Some titles were understandable, such as Golden Compass, it was meant to be the next big fantasy series, that was until it bombed hard. The most puzzling was the Planet 51 movie. An animated movie that was already kinda being buried because it was going to be a bad movie and bomb anyway.
The Aliens, AVP and Bleach meal-tickets seem to have been a far more consistent affair.
I assume that after Caps is out, Sega's deal wil likely expire, unless an Iron Man 3 game tie-in will still be in the cards.
Your forgetting the AVENGERS. Sega's deal with Marvel was a five title deal + its a multi year contract. So unless some clause pops up where Marvel won't continue that deal(which is possible)I'd expect the next game to be the last.But to be honest i haven't heard anything on that front yet.
On anthoer note has anyone seen captain america yet? Thumbs up? thumbs down? Exceeded the hype or just average-mondo?
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I've seen the film and I quite enjoyed it. I felt they captured the "Golden Age" of comic heroes pretty well.
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@ROJM
If that is indeed the case, then an article such as this (http://www.gamerlive.tv/article/captain-america-last-marvel-video-game-sega), is really nothing more than speculation.
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@ROJM
If that is indeed the case, then an article such as this (http://www.gamerlive.tv/article/captain-america-last-marvel-video-game-sega), is really nothing more than speculation.
Not really, the deal that Sega had before was an extended deal which allowed them to publish and create the other three Marvel games. They originally only had IRON MAN. And the contract was a multiyear deal which meant it could be amended either way from what I understand. But i did say that before. Up to a month ago i thought CM was the last game but recently I've been told otherwise.
But with Xmen and everything else licensed to Fox and anyone else,it would take a while for any licenses to revert back to Marvel/Disney.
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Got the Wii version in the mail yesterday. Will play through for a review.
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@ROJM
Well, Disney's focus as of late is to produce casual titles for iPad and other mobile platforms, they even released a Captain America game on the iPhone I think.
If there is any break-up no doubt that there will be some sort of annoucement first and foremost.
It is a shame if it ends right now, though, I finished Caps about 5 minutes ago and it is actually good, mind you, not AAA caliber, just good.
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@ROJM
Well, Disney's focus as of late is to produce casual titles for iPad and other mobile platforms, they even released a Captain America game on the iPhone I think.
If there is any break-up no doubt that there will be some sort of annoucement first and foremost.
It is a shame if it ends right now, though, I finished Caps about 5 minutes ago and it is actually good, mind you, not AAA caliber, just good.
Yeah, Disney did the same with THOR a while back using a flash game to promote the film. But concerning the article,Disney/marvel are obviously going to follow Sega west's model,using contract studios to create their game content instead of going inhouse. Anyhow the sooner we should hear or see this game should be towards NY comic con 2012 which is when i expect that Sega will let loose playable ALIENS COLONIAL MARINES demos to the public unless they plan to do it sooner .
As for cap, yes that is my impression also,its good average, i enjoyed it and better than the other Marvel HD titles. I'd say, Its more of a game you'd replay when you're in the mood to waste a couple of hours or so rather than a game that you can't get enough of.
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Beat the game and even got my first Platinum trophy. I loved the game but there are a few nitpicks.
1. Once you beat the game, going back to collect treasures is kinda boring.
2. To unlock Classic Cap, you either had to of pre-ordered the game or collect 25,000 intel points. That takes so long, I beat the game and beat every challenge map before getting the suit.
3. Like the Wii, you don't get to fight Red Skull at all. Even a draw match would have been something cool. Madame Hydra was awesome though.