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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Radrappy on October 16, 2015, 02:54:48 pm
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http://www.ign.com/top/top-100-games
in their list of top 100 games of all time they couldn't find space for a single fucking sega game?
No Sonic, No phantasy star, no outrun, no virtual fighter, no nothing.
what a bunch of assholes.
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http://www.ign.com/top/top-100-games (http://www.ign.com/top/top-100-games)
in their list of top 100 games of all time they couldn't find space for a single fucking sega game?
No Sonic, No phantasy star, no outrun, no virtual fighter, no nothing.
what a bunch of assholes.
IGN stands for (Ignorant Gaming Network).
They haven't have any credibility since 2005.
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They write about what sells. Don't give them money by caring about their opinion
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They write about what sells. Don't give them money by caring about their opinion
Got that right. I pity anyone who takes their opinion as gospel.
And don't even get me started on the comments section. Basically just a console fanboy Warzone.
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yeah IGN sucks, but you know what? Every fucking general gaming news site sucks. They all piss me off.
Anybody know of a good one? This is a serious question.
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yeah IGN sucks, but you know what? Every fucking general gaming news site sucks. They all piss me off.
Anybody know of a good one? This is a serious question.
Online Game journalism in general has gone to crap.
It's basically a "Payola" market now. Clickbait. Console fanboy pandering, Publisher Shilling and poorly researched articles. Publishers like ActivisionBlizzard pay sites to give rave reviews to their recycled IPs.
Even worse, garbage like Call of Duty ALWAYS gets perfect scores and sites like GameSpot always overhype and recommend generic FP like Fallout, Call of Duty e.t.c.
That's why its YouTube for actual fair assessment and journalism.
For a decent game journalism site, Polygon is a good one.
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Who cares.
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A bit disappointing. There used to be a good bit of sega representation when they made lists like these.
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Conflicting emotions.
While I think the IGN bashing here is a little extreme, I agree that it's a little weird not to see at least one Sega game in there.
I find that a little crazy, though I also don't know how these things are voted for or what the procedure is.
But then maybe I should just accept the fact that it's possible that people who are becoming gamers (and gaming journalists) a few years after us... might not be as much aware of Sega as we are.
Obviously we've all dug Sega over the years. But the fact is, with Sega further and further scaling back their exposure over the years, it's becoming a possibility that the generations following us won't really know about them at all.
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Bashing is justified. Not a single SEGA game? Ign is a joke.
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Bashing is justified. Not a single SEGA game? Ign is a joke.
They fail to realize that excellent 1st party talent is something Sony and MS completely lack. Nintendo has been reusing its old franchise icons for years but doesn't have the noteworthy flawlessness of SEGA's classic IPs.
Also, wasn't this the same site that had a reviewer give Sonic Unleashed a poor score just because he was SUCKING at playing it?
Conflicting emotions. While I think the IGN bashing here is a little extreme, I agree that it's a little weird not to see at least one Sega game in there. I find that a little crazy, though I also don't know how these things are voted for or what the procedure is. But then maybe I should just accept the fact that it's possible that people who are becoming gamers (and gaming journalists) a few years after us... might not be as much aware of Sega as we are. Obviously we've all dug Sega over the years. But the fact is, with Sega further and further scaling back their exposure over the years, it's becoming a possibility that the generations following us won't really know about them at all.
Considering the new direction of SEGA as a whole with both them becoming more and more PC Centric as a publisher and them expanding their global Arcade and Amusement brand in addition to taking the mobile gaming business by storm. SEGA will have its own audience and own base of fans and consumers. I forsee that. This should be enough to give them an opportunity at re-entering the home consumer gaming business.
I believe SEGA will have PC fanboys,Veteran Gamers and casuals on their side in the coming years. I believe few game journalists(Polygon,Gamasutra) will pay attention to them. But remember, that's a good thing. SEGA doesn't need to be in that corrupted circle.
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yeah IGN sucks, but you know what? Every fucking general gaming news site sucks. They all piss me off.
Anybody know of a good one? This is a serious question.
PC Gamer and Rock Paper Shotgun are pretty good, but beware that EVERYONE in Rock Paper Shotgun is a Thief fanboy.
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For a decent game journalism site, Polygon is a good one.
No! Nononononononononono! That site is some kotaku-grade bullshit. It's purpose is to shun devs they don't like.
There is only one true legit videogame review source: Classic Game Room.
Other than that you're better off going in blind and playing the games yourself (which usually is great)
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I've always just preferred gauging opinions from friends if I'm interested in a game. I only ever use websites like PCGamer, IGN, Screwattack, etc. to read news. I'll read the occasional review but that's not exactly common. It is fairly idiotic IGN doesn't put even one SEGA made game on the list, that's some pretty hardcore ignorance for a GROUP of high-profile game journalists to have.
There is only one true legit videogame review source: Classic Game Room.
God, I haven't watched Mark's stuff in so long. Last I heard, he was doing his own comic, right, getting the show on DVD? Hope he's doing well.
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Hey guys what's going o-
*People actually getting angry over a top 100 list from IGN*
I just remembered why I only come on here when I'm incredibly bored.
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It boggles the mind how the hell can anyone be invested in a fucking IGN list. Or any gaming list written by some mid 20, journalist wanna be hack intern who didn't play even half of the list he just randomly chose.
So, I'll just reiterate. Who cares.
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It boggles the mind how the hell can anyone be invested in a fucking IGN list. Or any gaming list written by some mid 20, journalist wanna be hack intern who didn't play even half of the list he just randomly chose.
So, I'll just reiterate. Who cares.
Seconded that. A Millennial wanna be journalist(like the one that's now in charge of TSSZ News) wouldn't know a memorable and classic game if it hit him in his face. Its obvious he just googled them and read what others said before about these titles. It's clear he hasn't even played half of them and would probably suck at them anyway.(Its amazing how many young gamers I've seen that really suck at playing Super Mario Bros. 3, which is why most of them claim Mario 3. is overrated.)
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Let's not blame IGN article on the persons age, because it's not. It's all about clicks / ad revenue. The list is chosen on what they think will bring more clicks.
yeah IGN sucks, but you know what? Every fucking general gaming news site sucks. They all piss me off.
Anybody know of a good one? This is a serious question.
Try Gematsu, Siliconera and/or Nichegamer.
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Conflicting emotions.
While I think the IGN bashing here is a little extreme, I agree that it's a little weird not to see at least one Sega game in there.
I find that a little crazy, though I also don't know how these things are voted for or what the procedure is.
But then maybe I should just accept the fact that it's possible that people who are becoming gamers (and gaming journalists) a few years after us... might not be as much aware of Sega as we are.
Obviously we've all dug Sega over the years. But the fact is, with Sega further and further scaling back their exposure over the years, it's becoming a possibility that the generations following us won't really know about them at all.
This is pretty much where I'm at reading this list. I don't give a rat's ass about IGN but the fact that in a list of 100 games not a single one is a Sega title, even I found that a bit off putting. I just think people aren't going to go out of their way to even remember them if they don't put out very memorable titles today. They grow more irrelevant by the year and I wish they'd do something about it. Anything.
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Nah, screw IGN. This is not the first time they've snubbed or outright insulted Sega, while constantly displaying Nintendo fanboyism. I'm done with them.
Thanks for the suggestions guys.
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IGN have been trolling the entire industry for years by calling themselves part of the games media.
Honestly though, I can't remember the last time I actually bothered going on the "big" sites for game news.
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Fuck this. Let's make our own top 100! I'll start working on it
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But then maybe I should just accept the fact that it's possible that people who are becoming gamers (and gaming journalists) a few years after us... might not be as much aware of Sega as we are.
Obviously we've all dug Sega over the years. But the fact is, with Sega further and further scaling back their exposure over the years, it's becoming a possibility that the generations following us won't really know about them at all.
And yet they are aware enough to remember Oregon Trial or Galaga. I doubt it has anything to do with relevance of the company and more to do with a specific person's tastes. After all Contra made the list which hasn't been relevant in decades and Konami a little less relevant than SEGA these days too.
Fuck this. Let's make our own top 100! I'll start working on it
These are the top 5.
5. Shinobi 3: Return of the Ninja Master
4. Outrun 2
3. Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown
2. Sonic the Hedgehog 2
1. Yakuza 5
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And yet they are aware enough to remember Oregon Trial or Galaga. I doubt it has anything to do with relevance of the company and more to do with a specific person's tastes. After all Contra made the list which hasn't been relevant in decades and Konami a little less relevant than SEGA these days too.
These are the top 5.
5. Shinobi 3: Return of the Ninja Master
4. Outrun 2
3. Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown
2. Sonic the Hedgehog 2
1. Yakuza 5
Here's my Top 15 SEGA Games:
15. Shenmue(2000) Dreamcast.
14. Sonic The Hedgehog 3(the entire game) (1994) Genesis/Mega Drive.
13. Sonic Generations(2011) PS3/360/PC
12. Phantasy Star 3(1994) Genesis/Mega Drive.
11. Nights Into Dreams(1996) Saturn.
10. Clockwork Knight(1995) Saturn.
9. Ecco The Dolphin(1994) Sega CD/Genesis.
8. Shining Force CD(1994) Sega CD.
7. Psycho Fox(1989) Sega Master System
6. World of Illusion(1992) Genesis/Mega Drive.
5. Fighters Megamix(1997) Saturn.
4. Sonic Adventure(1999) Dreamcast.
3. Jet Set Radio(2000) Dreamcast.
2. Sonic CD(1993) Sega CD/Mega CD.
#1. Sonic Jam(1997) Saturn.
Top 15 Favorite games of all time:
15. Streets of Rage 2(1992) Genesis/Mega Drive
14. Super Mario Advance 2(2002) GBA
13. Sonic Chaos(1993) Master System/Game Gear
12. Marvel VS Capcom 2(2000) Dreamcast
11. Soul Calibur(1999) Dreamcast
10. Final Fantasy III(1994) SNES.
9. Gradius III(1991) SNES.
8. Chip N' Dale's Rescue Rangers(1989/90) NES.
7. Ristar(1995) Genesis.
6. Super Mario World 2(1995) SNES.
5. TMNT IV: Turtles in Time(1992) SNES.
4. Panzer Dragoon(1995) Saturn.
3. Legend of Zelda(1987) NES.
2. Sonic CD(1993)
#1. Super Mario Bros. 3(1989/90) NES.
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If you guys seriously want to do a top 100 SEGA games, I'm up for it. I know forums I've frequented in the past had a system to determine top 100s of things as a forum game. I'll research it and if anybody has ideas let me know.
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Hey, that sounds like fun! I remember this one forum had a thread in which people signed up to decide a final top 10 games list. The original list was pre-made, and the game runner (in this case a forum admin) individually messaged the participants. Each person could do one of two things: change a game's position on the list, or replace one game with another. Explanations for changes were encouraged, but not required, and explanations could be as elaborate as an essay or as simple as "game x sucks lol."
I think that concept would work out pretty well for a "best SEGA games" forum list.
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1. Out Run
What is the second one?
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Hey, that sounds like fun! I remember this one forum had a thread in which people signed up to decide a final top 10 games list. The original list was pre-made, and the game runner (in this case a forum admin) individually messaged the participants. Each person could do one of two things: change a game's position on the list, or replace one game with another. Explanations for changes were encouraged, but not required, and explanations could be as elaborate as an essay or as simple as "game x sucks lol."
I think that concept would work out pretty well for a "best SEGA games" forum list.
Second. I'm on board too. Sega games themselves don't get much honorable mentions. So a Top 100 list would be a fantastic idea!
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Bashing is justified. Not a single SEGA game? Ign is a joke.
Maybe not many of the writers currently writing for the site are big Sega fans. Should they have voted for Sega games anyway just because they think that it's expected of them?
^Not saying that this is or isn't the case. Again, I don't know how these things are actually voted for or what goes into it. Either way, I generally think putting too much thought into lists like this is kinda....eh. It's just an opinion. Everyone has their own opinions on games. I'm sure if I'd made a list of my top 100 there'd be some people looking at it like "What? Killer 7? What the shit is he on?" =p
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God yes, a Top 100 Sega games list, with a special Top 10 Sega Games from the last 5 years appendix, so that it's easier to lecture on people mid youtube comments
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Try Gematsu, Siliconera and/or Nichegamer.
Mah nigga. Literally the only 3 gaming sites worth visiting.
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If you guys are up for making a top 50 or top 100 list, here's my proposed method – this is based on voting rules that I've seen work on a Simpsons fan site when ranking the top 50 episodes from The Simpsons 500+ episodes. Here's how the voting could work:
• Each member creates and submits a top 25 list (if we want a top 50) or a top 50 list (if we want a top 100)
• For scoring, each game that appears on a list scored 25 points for a #1 rank (as best ever), 24 pts for #2, 23 points for #3... All the way down to 1 pt for 25th place. And, of course, all unranked games would score zero points for that list.
• Highest base point total wins, with the tie-breaker being the number of lists a game appeared on. The double-tie breaker goes to the episode with the higher individual ranking on any of the lists.
If you all have thoughts on the method, or have your own methods please let me know. I'm not 100% certain this could work, but its worth a shot. Once we have a decided method, I can start a new thread and get things going. It will likely take a while to gather all the lists, and ideally we would get a lot of lists. So it might involve a bit of campaigning for new members to join the forums to share their list.
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sounds good to me, let's do the top 25 list. I think that will be way more manageable. Can we also please tweet it at ign or something. I want to stick it to those smug bastardssssssssss.
Would be more than happy to do an illustration featuring the top 5 winners.
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To be honest I couldn't give a shit, it'll be forgotten in a week. I wouldn't be surprised if they decided not to include a SEGA game simply to do something edgy that would bring in clicks but they could also get away with.
Hey guys what's going o-
*People actually getting angry over a top 100 list from IGN*
I just remembered why I only come on here when I'm incredibly bored.
With shitty posts like this, don't bother.
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God yes, a Top 100 Sega games list, with a special Top 10 Sega Games from the last 5 years appendix, so that it's easier to lecture on people mid youtube comments
Yes. That way Sega Bits can display 10 SEGA published IPs that people ignored like: Colors, Captain America Super Solider, Binary Domain. Just to name a few.
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That sounds a little too complicated imo. The way I described is pretty simple, and promotes a little more community discussion. It's always fun to see how salty everyone gets at the end, it's good fun. Plus, it can be adapted to a 25 list (I really don't recommend going above that), and can multiple rounds can be done if everyone is unsatisfied with the final result.
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It's really not complicated as people only need to submit their top 25 lists. Submitting top 25 lists would actually render a top 50 as the totals would combine to create a list greater than 25.
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Ah.. This makes me remember TIME MAGAZINE
When they wrote a history of videogaming...
And NONE of SEGA consoles ever mentioned.
Link : http://content.time.com/time/interactive/0,31813,2029221,00.html
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Barry, make a topic. Let's get this party started.
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To be honest I couldn't give a shit, it'll be forgotten in a week. I wouldn't be surprised if they decided not to include a SEGA game simply to do something edgy that would bring in clicks but they could also get away with.
Very true, IGN have always been a bit of joke with their reviews .. NCL love-in and so called lists . Never mind SEGA games, there's some classic games that aren't in that list either and the lack of respect to games that pushed the boundaries and made gaming what is it today on the old 8bit computers and consoles is shocking and to have Halo II in that list is the biggest joke of all
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Barry, make a topic. Let's get this party started.
Working on something now, should have it up by EOD. :)
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Ah.. This makes me remember TIME MAGAZINE
When they wrote a history of videogaming...
And NONE of SEGA consoles ever mentioned.
Link : http://content.time.com/time/interactive/0,31813,2029221,00.html (http://content.time.com/time/interactive/0,31813,2029221,00.html)
Time magazine seldom has any credibility.