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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Barry the Nomad on November 28, 2012, 08:41:12 am
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With 2012 coming to an end, at least in terms of SEGA releases, we now have 2013 to look forward to. Thus far the titles we know of are:
• Anarchy Reigns - Western release
• Aliens: Colonial Marines
• Bayonetta 2 (unless it isn't til 2014)
• Yakuza 5
• The Cave - Double Fine game
• 3 digital and 1 boxed Sonic titles
• 3D Space Harrier for 3DS, and potentially more?
• Skies of Arcadia and Shenmue HD rumored
• PSO2 - Western release
• Total War: Rome 2
• Football Manager 2014
• Virtua Striker and Virtual On for XBLA and PSN (unless they release this December)
• More Vintage Collections
Any titles you're especially looking forward to? What would you consider to be SEGA's big AAA title for 2013? Any other rumored releases?
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No, it just reinforces how crap Sega has become, most of the games mentioned were part of 2012 schedule. And we all know by 2013/14 half if not most of these games on the new release list will be shite digital games. By the way where's YAKUZA 5 on that list? ;)
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Well I did say "any other rumored releases?" so I'll add Yakuza 5 to the list ;)
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Yakuza 5 is it gets a western release, which seems more unlikely than the previous games.
Not sure about anarchy reigns but i'll get it anyway since it's cheap.
Interested in how much effort is put into the next Sonic title of course. Hopefully it'll be something of quality and originality.
And if financial times are better for me around Bayonetta 2's release, I might get a wii u, but we'll see.
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With 2012 coming to an end, at least in terms of SEGA releases, we now have 2013 to look forward to. Thus far the titles we know of are:
• Anarchy Reigns - Western release
• Aliens: Colonial Marines
• Bayonetta 2 (unless it isn't til 2014)
• Yakuza 5
• 3 digital and 1 boxed Sonic titles
• 3D Space Harrier for 3DS, and potentially more?
• Skies of Arcadia and Shenmue HD rumored
• PSO2 - Western release
• Total War: Rome 2
• Football Manager 2014
• Virtua Striker and Virtual On for XBLA and PSN (unless they release this December)
• More Vintage Collections
Any titles you're especially looking forward to? What would you consider to be SEGA's big AAA title for 2013? Any other rumored releases?
very nice titles
allow me:
.Anarchy reigns im not really into it. its just a matter of tate thats all
.Aliens... surely im gonna play this game. i was so happy having alien vs predator. finished it with all three characters
.Well is bayonetta sega or not. regardless that a nice game :)
. yakuza 5 wtf best game around
.sonic titles... well lets see how this will be
to move it up a little bit.
virtua striker unless its a new title btter not bring it out
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Shining Ark (PSP 2013): http://www.vg247.com/2012/11/22/shining-ark-segas-latest-shining-game-gets-debut-trailer/
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At the risk of being obvious, to me Yakuza 5 is the big AAA title. I'm pretty sure it'll come out in the West. The previous three in the series were managed well in the West, with reasonable expectations. So they know it's not gonna be a blockbuster, but it's not a money-loser either.
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Maybe not as important, but also slated for release:
- 7th Dragon 2020-II
- Demon Tribu (I can't shake that commercials narrator)
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Word on "the street" is that Yakuza 5 just got a perfect 40/40 in Famitsu.
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At the risk of being obvious, to me Yakuza 5 is the big AAA title. I'm pretty sure it'll come out in the West. The previous three in the series were managed well in the West, with reasonable expectations. So they know it's not gonna be a blockbuster, but it's not a money-loser either.
They're going to have to. Sega new strategy is now over reliant on TOTAL WAR, FOOTBALL MANAGER and SONIC bringing in the big bucks because their new digital releases/transition even the successful ones cannot possibly achieve the profits that the consumer were use to in the past.
They better hope that ALIENS CM does good business.
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LOL! They only have this for the next year:
- Miku (PS3)
- 7th Dragon 3 (PSP)
- Shining Ark (PSP)
and... nothing else. -____-
WTF!?!? I mean, WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!? They are not even bringing Sega Superstars Racing 2 to Japan... nothing.
They are almost dead.
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I'm looking forward to seeing what Vintage/Heritage collection games they have coming out. They've been doing a really excellent job on these lately.
Maybe some Saturn-era stuff.
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2013 seems to be an odd duck, to say the least. Because many of the games that were originally meant to come out this year from several publishers got pushed into next year. Otherwise, 2012 would've been a much crowded year with much less dead space between major game releases. Also Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 and Assassin's Creed III... What are you gonna do about 'em?
I expect SEGA to start making announcement from Febuary onwards.
I'm looking foward to Anarchy Reigns, as I've already pre-ordered it.
I am really, really hoping Skies of Arcadia HD turns out to be true. I mean, they already got three Sega Heritage titles out of the game, I hope SEGA's code monkeys are working on something.
Aliens: Colonial Marines is the one-to-watch.
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PSO2 in English! :D lol
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one thing i do hope is that they will stop re release stuff and make more new stuff.
honestly i didnt really like jsr on the psn and also nt on ios. simply cause i played it on dc. for the F..... nerd that i am i repurchased it. but no more mister nice guy. i swore not to do duplicates anymore
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Rome 2, Yakuza 5 and Anarchy Reigns are the ones I have my eye on.
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Add Ron Gilbert's The Cave to the list. Played it at Eurogamer and found it an extremely charming title, think a lot of people here would love it too.
Outside of that, I think we will get more releases come March, probably a new Mario & Sonic game too for Wii U and 3DS? Would not be surprised either to see another announcement from Ryu Ga Gotoku studio too for Japan (Though doubt it would be a mainline Yakuza game)
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Oh yeah, forgot about The Cave. It's Double Fine, so it should be ace.
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I'll take that console/pc port of Shining Force Cross any day now...
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LOL! They only have this for the next year:
- Miku (PS3)
- 7th Dragon 3 (PSP)
- Shining Ark (PSP)
and... nothing else. -____-
WTF!?!? I mean, WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!? They are not even bringing Sega Superstars Racing 2 to Japan... nothing.
They are almost dead.
PSO2 Vita?
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PSO2 Vita?
OH! Completely forgot that one!!! What a shame... but I wanted it on PS3!! My God! If the game is free to play, why the hell it is not on the PSN??? I don't own a Vita and have no plans to buy one.
The game is also inferior from the original PC version (graphically saying).
2ch is fullfiled with Sega employees and related persons, and they are only talking about mobile telephone games...
They are very agressive with people who tries to talk about the old Sega or home consoles games. They said that Yakuza 5 is the last on the series... and Sega is not going to create any new IP packaged title outside Japan anymore...
I'm getting tired of Sega, but let's see what happens next year, since they have not made a press release this year for the consumer area. Sega has only done a press release for mobile phone games... :(
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OH! Completely forgot that one!!! What a shame... but I wanted it on PS3!! My God! If the game is free to play, why the hell it is not on the PSN??? I don't own a Vita and have no plans to buy one.
You probably have Sonic to look forward to as well.
2ch is fullfiled with Sega employees and related persons, and they are only talking about mobile telephone games...
They are very agressive with people who tries to talk about the old Sega or home consoles games. They said that Yakuza 5 is the last on the series... and Sega is not going to create any new IP packaged title outside Japan anymore...
I'm getting tired of Sega, but let's see what happens next year, since they have not made a press release this year for the consumer area. Sega has only done a press release for mobile phone games... :(
If SEGA does go solely mobile phone games, they will not last until 2016. The only good thing I can think of right now is that package games performed much much better than digital games for this half year and might make them reconsider their options.
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I'm thinking the same thing. The package titles has saved Sega this half year, and almost paid all the money lost from consumer division. Accord to Nagoshi, Yakuza 5 already has the highest number of copies sold on pre-order on the series.
Hopefully they will end this fiscal year with profits!
The biggest issue that made Sega changed their plans was the fact that Binary Domain, Rythm Thief, Max Anarchy have failed hard on sales... arrggh! If they have sold more :-\
Someone said (on 2ch...) that the probability of Sega making some new package titles for old IPs still exists... but in the other hand we have the fact that Nagoshi everytime says he does not wants and also hates Sega's old titles (that failed on sales).
Just bring Yu Suzuki back and let the man do his things >:( Shit!
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Question: Would a Shenmue 3, made on the budget of a Yakuza game, be a major seller?
Seriously, I mean we've had this conversation many times before in other threads, but I'm curious if fans would accept a Shenmue 3 if it meant a lower budget than the first two, a little more of the same in terms of in-game gimmicks (magic weather, collectables, arcade games, menial jobs) and a greater emphasis on story? Personally, I want STORY resolution. New gimmicks would be great, but I'd rather SEGA not spend a load of money to reinvent the wheel and try to redefine adventure games.
Would this be so crazy a way to get to Shenmue 3: In 2013 release Shenmue HD, in early 2014 release Shenmue 2 HD, if sales are strong and Shenmue hype has reached strong levels announce Shenmue 3 at E3 or TGS in 2014 (E3 preferably, given the series popularity in the West) and begin a series of videos released to the SEGA YouTube channels discussing the game's development. Make it very apparent that Shenmue 3's focus will be story as well as enhanced fighting mechanics (borrow ideas from VF5). That way people's expectations will be set, and we won't have a Phantom Menace on our hands.
Then, in 2016 release Shenmue 3 to PS4, XBOX 720 and (I guess) Wii U. Or, make it a console exclusive a la Bayonetta 2 to put more money behind it. I'd prefer MS or Sony, but even if Nintendo backed it I'd be okay with that. Just want a third game made one way or another.
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I guess what triggered me thinking all this was playing Binary Domain over the weekend. It's a fantastic game, but it got me thinking about how it's a new IP that didn't have the strongest of sales (did it?). Yet it got released. So why is it so hard to release a single game like Shenmue 3? Surely a Shenmue 3 made with a budget equal to, or a little greater than, Binary Domain would sell very well. I just think that the Shenmue series has long since passed it's cult status and that a game in today's world would sell very well. Especially if SEGA built up the series again via HD rereleases and then gave us a third title next generation. If we can get multiple Yakuza titles and new IPs like Binary Domain, why not a Shenmue 3 with a smaller budget but a bigger focus on story? Team Yu Suzuki with the minds behind the Yakuza games and give us a really strong finish to the series that pulls at our heartstrings and nostalgia. Leave reinventing action/adventure games to games like Watch Dogs.
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I'm thinking the same thing. The package titles has saved Sega this half year, and almost paid all the money lost from consumer division. Accord to Nagoshi, Yakuza 5 already has the highest number of copies sold on pre-order on the series.
Hopefully they will end this fiscal year with profits!
The biggest issue that made Sega changed their plans was the fact that Binary Domain, Rythm Thief, Max Anarchy have failed hard on sales... arrggh! If they have sold more :-\
Someone said (on 2ch...) that the probability of Sega making some new package titles for old IPs still exists... but in the other hand we have the fact that Nagoshi everytime says he does not wants and also hates Sega's old titles (that failed on sales).
Just bring Yu Suzuki back and let the man do his things >:( Shit!
The issue with Binary Domain was SEGA went about it completely the wrong way in marketing it, the first trailer effectively made it a laughing stock. Nowdays you get loads and loads of people discovering the title, posting about it on Twitter, NeoGAF and the like and shows SEGA's marketing screwed up the game big time. Also should have starred Cain. Rhythm Thief I think would just be a failure irregardless for short term sales but it should have been viewed as a long term seller which is its strong point, whilst Anarchy Reigns should never have been greenlit for consoles.
I agree with Nagoshi that older retail titles that failed probably should not get a sequel unless SEGA is on a run of multiple successes, at the same time I find it odd if Yakuza 5 is going to be the last in the series and they will move onto solely mobile phone games. Nagoshi does not strike me as the type of man who will be satisfied working on phone games unless he is already planning on jumping ship?
What SEGA needs to do is start slowly, I can understand just making certain games for a year or two, build profits up and then start making new IPs to complement their already established franchises. But shifting packaged goods to only four franchises (One of which they do not own) and then relying on games that sell for a bottle of water is a recipe for disaster. What happens when Sonic etc suffer franchise fatigue and how would cheap iOS game keep a company of 2,000+ employees afloat? Seems extremely short sighted and will end in disaster. Look at Zynga after all.
They also really need to stop focusing on Japan only, 7th Dragon should have been released here, as should Valkyria Chronicles 3. These games might be failures on the respective platforms in the West but bringing them to Steam/PSN/XBLA would have been a good way to ensure additional sales.
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Cain is one of the best new SEGA characters from the third party era. They really should have given him more face time in the marketing. Make him more prominent on the box. I liked Dan, but he is not the star of the game.
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At this point, I think a new Shenmue would be a complete Reboot with the entire Story and Chapters in one game. If they were in for big-budget Retail Release anyway.
Yu Suzuki wants to make it, he could start a Kickstarter, for a game that merely is supposed to finish the Story. Sega would be on it, just for the IP. Similar to Bayonetta 2.
Don't know anything could happen.
About Sega's future I think for the PSN/XBLA space it's looking bright. AM2 said that they plan to get most of their catalouge on there, and I assume (hopefully) it's the same for AM1. With the success they see that are having with that Strategy, we might even see some strong Original titles made for download services. AM2 even talked on their Twitter about Fighters Megamix 2. And with Arcades dying also in Japan, it's a real possibility, that they will directly develop for XBLA/PSN.
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They also really need to stop focusing on Japan only, 7th Dragon should have been released here, as should Valkyria Chronicles 3. These games might be failures on the respective platforms in the West but bringing them to Steam/PSN/XBLA would have been a good way to ensure additional sales.
My thoughts exactly and promote them in the right places.
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My thoughts exactly and promote them in the right places.
Yeah, like market them to the Anime crowd. That's what Atlus and NIS have been making with games like that.
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Concerning Binary Domain:
I started playing this last weekend and was really nonplussed by it. It was kind of okay, but I didn't really find it very enjoyable at all to be honest.
I'll probably try again because it seemed to be getting better (I stopped playing right when they jump down the sea wall and they're sliding on their backs).
Then again, I just haven't felt like playing much of anything recently apart from KOF and VF, so...
As for Shenmue 3:
I used to be really positive, but I now I think it's never ever going to happen. Maybe someday Yu Suzuki will have an interview with some Japanese website and will say 'Oh yeah Shenmue 3, the original plan was to have him kill Lan Di and then Lan Di's son comes to kill Ryo as the twist at the end. Yeah, shame about that...' and that'll be that.
I really don't expect any more games to ever be made about it, which is a crying shame, but let's be realistic here.
However, hypothetically if they made a game on Yakuza's budget, fuck yeah I would be happy. They don't need to blow us away graphically again, or create some massive fuck off world the size that no-one has seen before. They've already created what we want to play in Shenmue 1 and 2, just give us that again and I'll buy two copies.
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Cain is one of the best new SEGA characters from the third party era. They really should have given him more face time in the marketing. Make him more prominent on the box. I liked Dan, but he is not the star of the game.
Damn right, I think if Cain was the main character then this game easily would pick up a lot more sales. Plus when was the last time we had a major game released starring a robot?!
Concerning Binary Domain:
I started playing this last weekend and was really nonplussed by it. It was kind of okay, but I didn't really find it very enjoyable at all to be honest.
I'll probably try again because it seemed to be getting better (I stopped playing right when they jump down the sea wall and they're sliding on their backs).
It gets much much better. You basically played the tutorial parts.
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Question: Would a Shenmue 3, made on the budget of a Yakuza game, be a major seller?
not a chance.
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not a chance.
Please explain, I'm curious to hear why.
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You need to define 'Major Seller'. If you mean break even/worthwhile making then maybe, but blockbuster? That seems dubious.
I think that Shenmue now has that kind of mystique about it that it could actually help marketing. You could do all that '10 years in the making, the saga finally will be completed' 'most anticipated game ever' blah blah blah, but at the end of the day it's going to come down to a lot of things.
Will SEGA have the money to do a big marketing push? Will it capture new fans or just the small die-hards? I've been following games for a long time and even worked in the category for a while, and I still can't pick a winner everytime. It's really difficult to say if it would work or not but I really wish Sega would at least try. Unfortunately I think they've mothballed the series for good.
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You need to define 'Major Seller'. If you mean break even/worthwhile making then maybe, but blockbuster? That seems dubious.
I think that Shenmue now has that kind of mystique about it that it could actually help marketing. You could do all that '10 years in the making, the saga finally will be completed' 'most anticipated game ever' blah blah blah, but at the end of the day it's going to come down to a lot of things.
Will SEGA have the money to do a big marketing push? Will it capture new fans or just the small die-hards? I've been following games for a long time and even worked in the category for a while, and I still can't pick a winner everytime. It's really difficult to say if it would work or not but I really wish Sega would at least try. Unfortunately I think they've mothballed the series for good.
Pretty much this. Shenmue, like Nights Into Dreams, Jet Set Radio, and Samba De Amigo is a cult classic. Which above all things implies that while its quality is acknowledged, it is by no means a popular franchise. It may have pushed the boundaries of what a game could be for its time but if a 3rd installment were to be released in this post-GTAIII age, there is very little that would convince audiences to get on board.
I mean, even sonic games have a hard time moving units these days. What chance would a property like Shenmue have?
Just play Sleeping Dogs and pretend its Shenmue. That's what I do.
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Okay, I get you now. Maybe I shouldn't have said "major seller" because that brings to mind GTA or Halo levels of sales. I do think, however, that a Shenmue 3 made on a Yakuza 5 or Binary Domain budget would make profit. It would easily sell more than Binary Domain. Like Mademan said, if they market it right then they could have a success on their hands. Rerelease the first two on PSN/XBLA/WiiWare (or whatever Wii U has as a digital marketplace) and then make a big reveal at something like E3. Press conference not needed, do the booth reveal like the Danica Patrick ASRT car or invite journalists to a nearby movie theater where a trailer would be shown.
I really think that in this day and age, with online game sites and social networking, that word of Shenmue 3 would spread like wildfire. Free marketing right there. I know we would go all out, and I'm sure other sites would too. SEGA could be a bit more open with interviews and perhaps offer up exclusive reveals to the major gaming sites. And like I mentioned, release an episodic interview with Yu Suzuki, discussing the third game. Something like that would cost little to sit down and shoot, and could be released over time. StarWars.com is doing that with a George Lucas interview discussing Episode VII and people are going nuts each time one releases.
Once the game releases, perhaps offer up limited editions (fuck, I'd be all over that). Offer up a Phoenix Mirror replica, some art cards, a soundtrack CD and download codes for the first two games.
As for Sleeping Dogs, fun game but I will never ever pretend that a game is Shenmue. Shenmue is Shenmue. Sleeping Dogs is Sleeping Dogs.
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Since Burning Rangers was put into their crossover racing game I hope that it gets a proper XBLA/PSN release for 1200/1600 points (1600 perhaps because people have rarely played it).
I wish they had more games lined up, but they don't even know when to release their games...never mind marketing...
Who thought that Resonance of Fate would sell well on FFXIII's launch? Or perhaps even one of their established IPs on the same week as Call of Duty?
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If Sega was clever about BINARY DOMAIN they could have made this a Wii U launch title.
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Seeing the marketing campaign and the faith SEGA had in BD, am not surprised they are not being smart about it ;D
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So with 2012 finished there are a distinct lack of SEGA games in development. The ast 1/4 saw JSR, Sonic Adventure 2, NiGHTS, Sonic Transformed etc.
What do you think is coming. My Guesses:
Confirmed (or certainties):
Aliens: Colonial Marines
Football Manager 2014
My guesses:
Likely:
PSO 2 (XBLA/PSN)
Skies Of Arcadia HD (XBLA/PSN)
Sonic Adventure 3 (360/PS3)
Sonic Wii U
Burning Rangers HD (PSN/XBLA) (Just because it was a random inclusion in Sonic Transformed)
Virtua Striker (PSN/XBLA)
Virtua On (PSN/XBLA)
Maybe:
Panzer Dragoon (XBLA/PSN)
Sega Rally HD (PSN/XBLA)
Sega Touring Car HD (PSN/XBLA)
New Space Channel 5 (PSN/XBLA)
Dream:
Shenmue 1+2 HD
Ristar HD Remake
ToeJam & Earl 4
Streets Of Rage 4
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Hey Grant360! We actually had a 2013 topic going that was bumped to the second page of general SEGA discussion, so I merged your post. ;D
Shenmue 1+2 HD is far from a "dream" release, since it was mentioned in the same sentence as Skies Of Arcadia HD. I'd say it's "likely". Sonic Adventure 3 is much more of a "dream" release, and not sure what Sonic Wii U is. I'd think we'll see a multi-platform Sonic title on 360/PS3/Wii U. No way would SEGA release an HD Sonic game to 360 and PS3 and develop a totally separate game for Wii U. I'd expect something more like All-Stars Racing Transformed, where it had Wii U exclusive gimmicks and modes.
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My bad Barry... didn't pay enough attention.
The only reason I say SA3 is because:
1) SA1&2 have been released on live
2) I just don't see the next Sonic being Generations 2. I feel that was a anniversary thing.
As for the Wii U version. I have a feeling Sega will try and do something different with the gamepad. But use thier mascot to minimise risk... It's just speculation but I think there will be more than 1 title in 2013.
As for Shenmue, I stopped hoping for that long ago. If it happens it happens and given the fan demand for it I almost feel like if they were going to do it they would. I think they may drag it over 2 releases though. Shenmue was 3 GD roms (Although worth noting that probably 25% of the disc was repeat environments and code. Add in HD textures and everything else and even with good compression you are looking at a 3GB game. Add in Shenmue 2 as well and you could be looking at a 6GB XBLA game.
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I'm sensing more MODEL2 Collection games on the way and hopefully one of them is the original House of the Dead. If they were able to bring back VF2, then I don't see any problem of them porting THotD to PSN. Loving Deads: HotD EX could be a possible game to be released on either PSN or Wii U (due to the pedal features.)
On Japan's side, there's the Space Harrier 3D game and Shining Ark. I hope Sega West can get back on their feet to bring some of these games to the West as I am still waiting on news on the Western release of PSO2. AM2 is planning some for Virtua Fighter and I would really like to see Overworks port one of the Sakura Taisen games on Japanese PS2 Classics on PSN or a standalone game with trophies.
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I'm kind of worried.
Before 2010, 2011 and 2012 we knew those are gonna be great years, based on everything that was announced beforehand. But now? We only know of Sonic for sure. New IP's won't happen due to the bad handling of Rythm Thief and Binary Domain, which I'm extremly dissapointed in.
I mean hopefully we get something, maybe the Yakuza Team announces their new IP releasing this year? Or maybe a new RPG from the VC Team...
Hopefully we see lots of (newer) Arcade games ported to consoles. Border Break, and some obscure cool stuff like Sega Race TV done by the AMPort Team. I mean they are doing Virtua Striker, so there should be some neat stuff, that's not necesairly highly requested.
Again digital is supposed to be a huge focus, so I hope we see:
Lot of Arcade games that never were on consoles.
Maybe cool games from Sega of Japan not for damn iOS but maybe XBLA/PSN.
Basicilly I hope too see neat games for Handhelds and Consoles, and not just fluffy, online, F2P touch crap.
A great thing for them to do, would be announcing a new Arcade Unit with new games (HoTD 5, Outrun 3,Virtua Fighter 6...just my wishlist), and a simultionuos relese for Western for downloadable services.
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I think this may become a sonic year where the only thing SEGA is going to anounce and hype up is the next big sonic game. Which isn't a bad thing nesceseraly. Especially if it ends up really good. It would have been time they put a lot of attention into their flagship franchise. SEGA's got great franchises but sonic really carries the brand so I hope they take this next big title really serious.
I hope for more 3DS support though. Building a game for 3DS seems less expensive and since the handheld is doing so well, I think SEGA would be smart in creating a big title for the 3DS.
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Well this is the 20th anniversary of Virtua Fighter, and a Final Showdown tourney is underway this year, so I think we might get something VF related.
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you know what i think? i stink :P
wuahahahahahah that was freaking funny
and now serious.. shooooosh anyone stop laughing and clapping im not a stand up comedian
i know your worried . but actually it aint something new i guess. the dumb games usually come out in summer.
and from october to december the goty comes out. i dont know why they do taht that way. but it is what it is. all gamemakers do it obviously.
you can expect rumours and talks and verification by february.
you see im not nostradamus but it is like this most of the time :)
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I think this may become a sonic year where the only thing SEGA is going to anounce and hype up is the next big sonic game. Which isn't a bad thing nesceseraly. Especially if it ends up really good. It would have been time they put a lot of attention into their flagship franchise. SEGA's got great franchises but sonic really carries the brand so I hope they take this next big title really serious.
I hope for more 3DS support though. Building a game for 3DS seems less expensive and since the handheld is doing so well, I think SEGA would be smart in creating a big title for the 3DS.
correctumundo. 3ds will be thee handheld of this gen. so sega would do well yeah bringing out at least one phantasy star. kinda dumb havin pso2 on vita anyways
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Right now, the only major releases in the pipeline are Aliens: Colonial Marines and Phantasy Star Online 2.
I expect SEGA to start making annoucements sometime between February and March, because all things considered that's what SEGA's been doing for a long while.
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C'mon, broniks, we already had a 2013 topic! Merged them.
SEGA has quite a bit releasing in 2013 (as seen on page 1):
• Anarchy Reigns - released this week
• Aliens: Colonial Marines
• Bayonetta 2
• Yakuza 5
• The Cave - Double Fine game
• 3 digital and 1 boxed Sonic titles
• 3D Space Harrier for 3DS, and potentially more?
• Skies of Arcadia and Shenmue HD rumored
• PSO2 - Western release
• Total War: Rome 2
• Football Manager 2014
• Virtua Striker and Virtual On for XBLA and PSN (unless they release this December)
• More Vintage Collections
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Is Yakuza 5 coming west?
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We never know with the Yakuza titles, but thus far all the console titles have come west. I'd be shocked if it never gets a western release.
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Wasn't Kenzan a console title?
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Wasn't Kenzan a console title?
Yes.
Does anyone know if PSO2 is coming to Europe or USA on PS Vita? I love the Vita and PC games aren't for me. I also really liked Phantasy Star Portable on PSP, so getting the new one on PS Vita would be huge!
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I badly want Kenzan...we need a good Samurai game!
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Should have noted "numbered Yakuza titles". To be honest, I'm surprised Dead Souls got a release, but I'd guess SEGA West figured they'd go along with the zombie craze. Samurai games, I'd think, are less popular.
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You know Yakuza Dead Souls was in a way the predecessour to Binary Domain and it's shooting mechanics.
Yakuza Kenzan was until now the only ever Samurai/Sword-emphasized game by Sega, maybe a new international attempt could be happening. Some steampunk ala Orta/Gunvalkyrie with Lightsabers.
And you know most people contributed to Jet Set Radio are at the Yakuza Team. So why no JSR3 with the re-release selling well?
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Dead Souls was panned by critics though (almost all of whom missed the point of the game completely).
I doubt Sega is tempted to bring any more spinoffs West.
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Dead Souls was panned by critics though (almost all of whom missed the point of the game completely).
I doubt Sega is tempted to bring any more spinoffs West.
Well it wasn't that good. It wasn't a great shooter, nor was it great in the classic Yakuza sense.
However Kenzan is pretty much a Yakuza game just in a completly different scenario.
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Yeah Dead Souls was a bit shit I though. I haven't even gotten half-way through.
Anyway, VF6 I think is likely. There's a big arcade trade show coming early this year where it's suspected Sega will show off a new arcade board with some teasers for VF6. I really hope that means we'll get a console release of said game this year too.
Apart from that I'm mostly excited for Total War Rome 2.
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Yeah Dead Souls was a bit shit I though. I haven't even gotten half-way through.
Anyway, VF6 I think is likely. There's a big arcade trade show coming early this year where it's suspected Sega will show off a new arcade board with some teasers for VF6. I really hope that means we'll get a console release of said game this year too.
Apart from that I'm mostly excited for Total War Rome 2.
Hopefully not just VF6.
When Sega showed of the Lindbergh, we had House of the Dead, After Burner Climax and VF5.
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I imagine they would have a couple, but I think VF is always launched to coincide with thier new boards as a showcase.
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If Yakuza 5 is gonna come to the west, I'd imagine we'd have to wait quite a while seeing how it just came out in Japan, and I think numbered titles take longer to localize then something like Dead Souls, but what do I know?
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I want Alien and Bayonetta on the wii u and i hope for pso 2 on xbox 360, but that last one is not gonna happen i think. I don't like to play on pc.
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I get the feeling Bayonetta won't be until 2014, but that is on my watched list.
I haven't been paying attention to Aliens, but I should. It sounds like it might be good. I think I'll get it on PC if anything though.
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I still have to grab Bayonetta, but there isn't much money for now.
Any news on future 'retro' releases? No news about Skies of Arcadia, Burning Rangers or Shenmue?
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C'mon, broniks, we already had a 2013 topic! Merged them.
SEGA has quite a bit releasing in 2013 (as seen on page 1):
• Anarchy Reigns - released this week
• Aliens: Colonial Marines
• Bayonetta 2
• Yakuza 5
• The Cave - Double Fine game
• 3 digital and 1 boxed Sonic titles
• 3D Space Harrier for 3DS, and potentially more?
• Skies of Arcadia and Shenmue HD rumored
• PSO2 - Western release
• Total War: Rome 2
• Football Manager 2014
• Virtua Striker and Virtual On for XBLA and PSN (unless they release this December)
• More Vintage Collections
Poor imo
• Anarchy Reigns - A 2012 game
• Aliens: Colonial Marines - Yes should be great
• Bayonetta 2 - Please this isn't a SEGA game
• Yakuza 5 -a 2012 game and where its yet to be confirmed it come to the west
• The Cave - guess it could be fun
• 3 digital and 1 boxed Sonic titles - Should be good
• 3D Space Harrier for 3DS - wow a game made decades ago and wher the main of the series has been treated like shit by SEGA
• Skies of Arcadia and Shenmue HD rumored - be great , but hardly new games and it will only lead to people hoping for Shenmue III and SOA II and we all know that's not going to happen
• PSO2 - Will be ace, but the game needs to come to the home consoles
• Total War: Rome 2 - Yes
• Football Manager 2014 - yes
• Virtua Striker and Virtual On - Virtual Striker is hardly a game to look forward too
• More Vintage Collections - yes
In the end that list is crap . Either SEGA Japan have all their team working the magic on blockbusters like the SEGA of old, or this is more evidence that SEGA is a shadow of its former self and there's not much for the old SEGA fan to look forward too In-House .
Where is the SEGA that once was the talk of E3 and various other shows with games like F-Zero, Orta, JSRF, VF 4 .
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^That Sega died about a decade ago, where have you been?
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^That Sega died about a decade ago, where have you been?
Actually I've been making the point that SEGA been rather poor and a shadow of its former self (non Arcade ) for years .
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Sega is afraid of taking risks, and rightly so.
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^That Sega died about a decade ago, where have you been?
Died? I woudn't say so...more like Andromeda said, a shadow of their former self. But which big time company isn't these days.
We should be expecting a new Team Yakuza game this Year (since there is always one), and a new JRPG hopefully other than Shining...
shadow of its former self (non Arcade )
Well let's hope for ports of these Arcade games no?
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Poor imo
• Anarchy Reigns - A 2012 game
• Aliens: Colonial Marines - Yes should be great
• Bayonetta 2 - Please this isn't a SEGA game
• Yakuza 5 -a 2012 game and where its yet to be confirmed it come to the west
• The Cave - guess it could be fun
• 3 digital and 1 boxed Sonic titles - Should be good
• 3D Space Harrier for 3DS - wow a game made decades ago and wher the main of the series has been treated like shit by SEGA
• Skies of Arcadia and Shenmue HD rumored - be great , but hardly new games and it will only lead to people hoping for Shenmue III and SOA II and we all know that's not going to happen
• PSO2 - Will be ace, but the game needs to come to the home consoles
• Total War: Rome 2 - Yes
• Football Manager 2014 - yes
• Virtua Striker and Virtual On - Virtual Striker is hardly a game to look forward too
• More Vintage Collections - yes
In the end that list is crap . Either SEGA Japan have all their team working the magic on blockbusters like the SEGA of old, or this is more evidence that SEGA is a shadow of its former self and there's not much for the old SEGA fan to look forward too In-House .
Where is the SEGA that once was the talk of E3 and various other shows with games like F-Zero, Orta, JSRF, VF 4 .
Sega owns the rights to BAYONETTA just because Ninty is publishing it doesn't stop it from being a Sega property. That's like saying Tecmo lost all rights to Ninja Gaiden 3 when that was exclusivly published by nintendo or Sega again with SHENMUE 2 when Microsoft published it.
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Died? I woudn't say so...more like Andromeda said, a shadow of their former self. But which big time company isn't these days.
We should be expecting a new Team Yakuza game this Year (since there is always one), and a new JRPG hopefully other than Shining...
Well let's hope for ports of these Arcade games no?
Capcom seems to love angering their fans...they aren't a shadow...they have become the devil!
Valkyria? I recall S0L talking about a reference of Valkyria in Transformed in the SEGA Forums but said something along the lines of "We can't talk more about it til later in the year" (The post was done earlier this month)
Border Break!
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RE6 was rather controversial...many hated it
Dragon's Dogma was good, but DmC is Ninja Theory and not directly In-house Capcom related.
The bad thing with Capcom is, that all of their great ex-developers are now at Platinum Games, or here and there somewhere else, making huge attention-driving games.
With Sega, they lost Yu Suzuki, Naka and Mizuguchi. But there is either vaporware, or the exact opposite of the games that ex-Capcom people are making. Small games, nobody is noticing.
Sega has a better chance to turn them self-around to greater goodness, when they're in better shape again, than Capcom imo.
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its not a SEGA game .
It is owned by SEGA and thus can be considered a SEGA game.
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I believe Company of Heroes 2 is out this year, with the recent purchase, that's another game in SEGA's 2013 plan.
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Can anyone give me some background on Relic as a Developer?
I have no knowledge of them but from what I read they make great RTS'?
My question is why are SEGA strengthening their RTS line up when Total War is something they could live on forever? Not saying buying Relic is a bad thing, just curious to know what this means now for CA?
Also, any news on Hardlight? Their game got cancelled didn't it?
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Really looking forward to alien colonial marines, was very dissapointed with the alien vs predator remake a few years ago, hope the new games has a horde mode ala gears of war will be very chuffed to see that!!
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I would love to know what AM1 are doing these days.
If it's not Valkyria Chronicles, I would like to know what else they are doing.
HotD sadly doesn't interest me, but it's nice to know if they are making another one of those.
Preferably, I wouldn't mind a new IP in the RPG segment.
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The latest annoucements are a bit lukewarm, methinks...
They announced a few minor Mobile ports. Afterburner Climax is just extra change. But I do appreciate the convinience.
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Not that anyone cares but SEGA announced a new iOS game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rgoHPdNaYo
How different the world could have been if Valkyria, Yakuza and Binary Domain were commercial successes in the West.
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Well you can thank SEGA Europe/America for killing any chances of SEGA Japan (Or any Japanese games SEGA might want to publish) being relevant here. Clear to see that they think none of us would be interested in playing as Japanese robots, they probably think we would rather play as some sort of American soldier.
I mean look, we could have been playing Virtua Striker and Virtual On instead of the garbage that is Aliens, but no! Us Westerns are too mainstream to be into that, but don't doubt SEGA America or Europe! They are run by proper businessmen you know? Suits no what they are doing even though they have no experience in video games because they are BUSINESSMEN!
I can't believe they brought over Yakuza Dead Souls but not Yakuza 5. I guess I'll have to import and then play the game while reading the translations on my phone or laptop. Oy...
Has anyone actually played ALIENS COLONIAL MARINES yet or are we repeating stuff from what reviewers said? Im not going to judge until i've actually played the title before condemning Sega west or this title. It seems to me there's a quick kneejerk reaction here to a game that everyone wanted to be good. Well we have all seen it before with Sega that whenever they release a title that they want to be successful, the reviewers come out in force just to knock it down. BINARY DOMAIN suffered that fate. So why am i going to listen to what reviewers say when we all know half of them have an anti Sega slant. All Sega west is guilty of is their poor marketing skills among other things and SOJ's indirection of what they want the SEGA brand to be about. VO and VS should be released here but i'm not going to blame another game because those two titles didn't get the chance(yet) to be released.
Seriously man, you only need to look at the gameplay footage to tell the game is a fucking train-wreck.
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I can't believe they brought over Yakuza Dead Souls but not Yakuza 5. I guess I'll have to import and then play the game while reading the translations on my phone or laptop. Oy...
They brought it over because they thought we would be into zombies or something. Sales were dismal because Dead Souls is pretty bad and pretty much give them an excuse to kill that series off from any more Western releases.
That's my fear though as they try to focus solely on 4 CORE PILLARS and ignore everything else.
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I can't believe they brought over Yakuza Dead Souls but not Yakuza 5. I guess I'll have to import and then play the game while reading the translations on my phone or laptop. Oy...
Seriously man, you only need to look at the gameplay footage to tell the game is a fucking train-wreck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J8SzBhjqaQ
Yeah, I think it's about time to bring back some SOJ games again with more exposure.
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well, did anyone download virtual on? I'd love to play online if anyone's interested!
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Can you guys stop arguing? This thread is for games Sega is releasing in 2013.
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Can you guys stop arguing? This thread is for games Sega is releasing in 2013.
Oh yeah I forgot you're new here. These guys will go until the end of time if nobody stops them.
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Okay topic is open again, keep this topic about SEGA's 2013 plans discussion
Try to keep all debates in this new topic I created out of TA's and ROJM's posts: http://segabits.com/forums/index.php?topic=2338.75
I understand it's easy to go off topic, but you also gotta understand some people just don't want to see your debates. I see nothing wrong with them, so I don't think it's fair to outright tell you to stop, but we need to respect other peoples wishes.
So thanks :)
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So, Rome 2 Total War. When this game comes out I'm going to install it, and then 6 months later wake up in my swivel chair, wearing a toga and suffering from severe sleep deprivation.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J8SzBhjqaQ
Yeah, I think it's about time to bring back some SOJ games again with more exposure.
I agree with you on that one. From the last four years, there wasn't anything that Sega west did like OVERKILL that the SOJ consumer teams couldn't do. But with the way the company is being run at the moment in japan, the constant restrants on the teams and some of the legal issues and finances, it seems that Sega will be relying on sega west a bit more and more.
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But with the way the company is being run at the moment in japan, the constant restrants on the teams and some of the legal issues and finances, it seems that Sega will be relying on sega west a bit more and more.
This is what I'm talking about. You have no idea how Sega Japan is being run, as you're not a board member, employee, or journalist covering the company from inside.
Why do Sega fans think they know this stuff? You say something about Sega Japan, that they're being run a certain way relative to (vaguely stated) "constant restrants", and "legal issues and finances"(?).
It begs the question, what are you even talking about?
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It begs the question, what are you even talking about?
Judging from the comments you have posted in this forum, that is a question you should ask yourself.
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both of you, enough! :P
thearcticsea, you wanted this topic to be about Sega's 2013 releases and now it is, stop provoking ROJM. If you cause an argument/debate to break out in this topic I won't clean it up this time, since you started it. So keep that in mind before replying to ROJM again.
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Then let's start again shall we?
Based off BTN original list....
already out
• Anarchy Reigns - Western release
• Aliens: Colonial Marines
• Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed - PC & 3DS
• The Cave - Double Fine game
• Demon Tribes
• Shining Ark
• Project hell Yeah Pocket Inferno. digital download for mobile(Just released.)
Gamesystems/handhelds
Sega west and western releases
• Yakuza 5
• PSO2
• Total War: Rome 2
• Football Manager 2014
• Company Of Heroes 2
SOJ games japan/asia region release
• Space Harrier 3Ds
•Ariel GG 3ds
•Puyo Puyo GG 3ds
• Project Diva F PS3
SOJ second party titles
• 7th Dragon 2020 2
Digital releases
• Virtua Striker and Virtual On for XBLA and PSN (unless they release this December)
• More Sega Vintage Collections
• Skies of Arcadia and Shenmue HD Not confirmed/rumoured
Sega mobile
• Towa no Tsurugi
• Jet Set radio
• Answer X Answer pocket
• Quest of Planet
• Derby owners Club
Sega published games
• Chaos Heroes Online (PC)Japan only
Sega licensed
• Bayonetta 2 (unless it isn't til 2014)
Sega arcade
• WORLD CLUB Champion Football Intercontinental Clubs 2011-2012
• Code of Joker
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Edited the list to include ASRT and The Cave as released.
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I don't mean to rub anyone the wrong way. Sorry dudes.
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• WORLD CLUB Champion Football Intercontinental Clubs 2011-2012
had to look this up. It looks awesome.
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I don't mean to rub anyone the wrong way. Sorry dudes.
No worries :) I hope I didn't come off as mean sounding or anything. You haven't done anything wrong. I'm just trying to be fair and keep the peace in this topic, and keep it on topic since that was requested by you.
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lol yeah I did. But I wanted to add that if Sega had marketed their other titles they may have done better, even without the Alien name.
Here's a scary thought; how much better could Colonial Marines have done (it's already doing well in the UK) if it were actually good?
Actually my point was SEGA Europe/America only cared about the Aliens titles and not how consumers are attracted to the Aliens brand!
I think the scarier thought is how much more successful SEGA could have been if Yakuza and Valkyria Chronicles were made into successful franchises on an international level and help revitalize their Japanese studios. At least Creative Assembly's Alien title might end up being good, though it could go either way for that. Thanks to the Gearbox's diabolical there could be a sense of lowered expectations for the following Alien title and help to push higher than normal reviews, on the other hand it could damage the Alien brand and people would be a lot more cautious after the disappointing AvP and then the trainwreck that is Aliens: Colonial Marines.
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Then let's start again shall we?
Based off BTN original list....
What are Skies of arcadia and shenmue doing in that list? Have I missed something or is that just speculation?
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I think the scarier thought is how much more successful SEGA could have been if Yakuza and Valkyria Chronicles were made into successful franchises on an international level and help revitalize their Japanese studios. At least Creative Assembly's Alien title might end up being good, though it could go either way for that. Thanks to the Gearbox's diabolical there could be a sense of lowered expectations for the following Alien title and help to push higher than normal reviews, on the other hand it could damage the Alien brand and people would be a lot more cautious after the disappointing AvP and then the trainwreck that is Aliens: Colonial Marines.
Yeah that's what I'm worried about. Even if Creative Assembly's Alien game is amazing, they very may well have to fight against the anti-hype that Colonial Marines will serve. And that sucks.
And yeah it's definitely sad to think about how some decent marketing could have helped some of Sega's best games this gen, which got none of it in the West. Hell Namco's done pretty well with Ni No Kuni, and that's a game so Japanese that they didn't even bother translating the title, lol.
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What are Skies of arcadia and shenmue doing in that list? Have I missed something or is that just speculation?
In the first post, I noted that they are only rumored, but I think ROJM removed the "rumored" bit.
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I just added PROJECT HELL YEAH for ios on the list and added rumoured for the HD titles. So its kinda up to date to a degree. if you need to you can copy and paste the update and put it at the front of the topic, with your own spin on it since its mostly based on your list anyway.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImKG4TQ2JYQ
Demon Tribe for iOS. Art by Ryuta Ueda and Masayoshi Kikuchi seems to have gotten a promotion away from Ryu Ga Gotoku studios and now is general manager of SEGA Networks.
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In the first post, I noted that they are only rumored, but I think ROJM removed the "rumored" bit.
strangely enough i would still consider this a great year just because of those HD remakes alone.
Hope the rumors are true
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Hell Namco's done pretty well with Ni No Kuni, and that's a game so Japanese that they didn't even bother translating the title, lol.
Too bad Ni No Kuni and Fire Emblem: Awakening have had severe shipping issues.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImKG4TQ2JYQ
Demon Tribe for iOS. Art by Ryuta Ueda and Masayoshi Kikuchi seems to have gotten a promotion away from Ryu Ga Gotoku studios and now is general manager of SEGA Networks.
Game looks ace and the music is brilliant . Such a shame this talent is wasted on the Apple instead of making new games and engines for the next gen
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lol @ the comments in the Demon Tribe vid.
"Hay Sega make a new Jet Set Radio"
"New JSR Plz Sega"
then one guy
"Is this coming to the west?"
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lol @ the comments in the Demon Tribe vid.
"Hay Sega make a new Jet Set Radio"
"New JSR Plz Sega"
then one guy
"Is this coming to the west?"
Makes a change from Shenmue 3 comments.
I lol'd at the "Is this coming to the west" comment, if only because it's true. :(
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Not quite related to SEGA but ArkedoStudios is closing down.
http://aurelien-regard.blogspot.fr/2013/02/some-news-about-arkedo.html
Thanks to Alex Supersonic for informing via Twitter.
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That's a bummer. It was kinda strange that Arkedo wasn't making that Hell Yeah! portable spin-off.
But now I know... There's been quite a lot of silence from SEGA lately.
The only othert "major" release would be Shogun 2: Gold Edition that's coming out in March. They have nothing scheduled for Q2 and Q3 as of yet.
Hmm...
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Oh Sonic Stadium... well, specifically this guy... http://board.sonicstadium.org/topic/15180-segas-2013-plans/page-88#entry640273
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Actually since Arkedo closes what happens to the HELL YEAH IP? Also THQ is selling their IPs in the next two months which kinda makes one wonder if Sega will try to get the Homeworld IP and unite it with Relic again.
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Oh Sonic Stadium... well, specifically this guy... http://board.sonicstadium.org/topic/15180-segas-2013-plans/page-88#entry640273
They still talk about Sonic when the topic is about other SEGA games. >_<
I even said "Can't we talk about SEGA since we already have a Sonic thread?", well....actually the whole forum is about Sonic, so it's kind of annoying to see the ONLY place where it doesn't talk about Sonic, talks about Sonic. <_<
That also sucks with Arkedo closing down....did Hell Yeah really not do that well? Wow....