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Off Topic => Everything Else => Topic started by: George on April 17, 2015, 06:16:47 pm
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This was shown a day ago at a iMAX event, it is no online after some blurry crappy versions made it online. Now you can enjoy, see Ben in the suit and him as Bruce for the first time. Seems that they are playing the whole 'Superman seen as a God' aspect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwfUnkBfdZ4
edit: I guess this is a teaser to the iMax event, which will show a longer trailer than this one. This is to tease... ticket sales? Talk about milking the hype.
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Hmmmmm it's got potential, I'm not sure i like the the keeping with the GRIMDARK aspect and Superman being FALSE GOD and all that. It's a bit Injustice for my tastes. I'm still not sure why they felt the need to make it Batman vs Superman as the first film instead of them teaming up.
On the other hand, if this is all Lex Luthor's doing, then it's brilliant. It suits Lex perfectly that he would try to turn the populace and Batman against Superman by making him out to be dangerous and a overall damaging to humanity. It's quite perfect come to think of it. I'll see how it pans out.
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Hmmmmm it's got potential, I'm not sure i like the the keeping with the GRIMDARK aspect and Superman being FALSE GOD and all that. It's a bit Injustice for my tastes. I'm still not sure why they felt the need to make it Batman vs Superman as the first film instead of them teaming up.
On the other hand, if this is all Lex Luthor's doing, then it's brilliant. It suits Lex perfectly that he would try to turn the populace and Batman against Superman by making him out to be dangerous and a overall damaging to humanity. It's quite perfect come to think of it. I'll see how it pans out.
Shame Luthor is being played by Jesse Eisenberg, doesn't really have the physic for the villain I feel.
Didn't like his line in the trailer either, he seems a bit too "young" for the speech.
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I like the Batman suit, probably the best live action suit yet.
Aside from that, it looks like more of what I didn't like about Man of Steel. Oh well.
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TimmiT not liking a non-marvel movie? I'm shocked.
Also, a few notes on the trailer, when Superman goes in the bunker the solders have a Superman sigma on their coats, making me believe that Superman actually has an army.
(http://i.imgur.com/gpWZiXm.png)
As for them fighting, they have fought when they first met plenty of times but always settle their differences and team up. Avengers, even tho they did 5 movies to tease the team up used this mechanic in the first one.
Another note they used 'v' and not 'vs', v is usually used in court and I think its to simulate the fact that Batman and Superman have different ideals that clash
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Hey man, I liked the Dark Knight trilogy, and the Batman animated series is one of my favourite comic book adaptations. But I just see Man of Steel and a lot of what I see in this teaser as trying too hard to be dark and gritty. Not that being dark and gritty is bad, but it's just dull when it's done badly.
I mean, seriously, FALSE GOD?
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Jesse Eisenberg as Luthor? Lololol
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You don't think there will be people thinking Superman is a god? There are people that believe some dude named Jesus that walked on water, turned water to wine was a God and they never saw him. Imagine one day some dude flies around, saves the world, is basically immortal out of the blue?
Something that Marvel never even touched on, glad someone is and it is something that is touched upon the comics.
I don't think the religious bit is 'grim dark', I don't think you even know what that means.
As for Jesse Eisenberg as Luthor, I will wait till I see him to reserve judgement. They said the same shit about Heath Ledger as Joker, laughing him off as a pretty boy actor.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YdPn9kwCc2o/UuyR9g61f7I/AAAAAAAAAvg/nyuZ84YuKrU/s1600/eisenberg-bald.jpg)
Who knows, he has the face structure to pull it off.
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Are you really comparing what people believed back then to now? Because conditions are kinda different. For one, information about what Superman actually is would be widespread.
Anyway, maybe this'll be like the last Ben Affleck superhero movie where we'll get a much better TV show adaptation by people who actually know how to adapt the comics well a decade after the movie comes out. :V
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This God story is part of the DCU mythos, so why not instead of 'whining' and talking about how they don't know comics, why don't you go read them yourself? Because the only person that doesn't know anything seems to be you.
The DCU mythos have played big on the whole 'Men among Gods' phrases, I mean for fucks sake they released a game called 'Injustice: God Among Us'. I don't see that as being 'grim dark' because its part of Superman comics and general opinion of the character. I think in this situation you don't understand what grim dark is, its when they adapt something and make it 'grim and dark' when it isn't. There is nothing 'dark' or 'grim' about the words 'False God', its a statement.
Hey, you might dislike Zack Snyder but he has made a few of the best adapted comics to movies including Watchmen and 300. If you dislike his style, fine, but saying its a bad adaptation because of 50 seconds of footage is laughably bad and just shows your pathetic Marvel loyalism. I think a lot of people agreed that Man of Steel was shot really well and his directing behind the camera was well done, especially the fighting scenes. I think the general opinion was that the story needed work and so they got a new screen writer.
As for you not thinking there would be a population of people that would think someone like Superman (an alien that came from the sky that can fly, shoot heat beams, saves people) wouldn't be thought of as a God is weird. Like, it seems that you don't talk to many people.
Find it puzzling that you talk about 'grimdark' then mention Daredevil Netflix show as a good example of where DC should take these movies? Daredevil on Netflix is the definition of Grimdark. Daredevil in the comics didn't torture people, heads weren't slammed off of bodies. They went over the top, now that is grimdark.
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Alright I'll give you that, I'll try to reserve my judgment as well.
Seriously though, TimmiT read Superman: For Tomorrow, religious tone, yet really damn good. One of my favorite Superman runs ever.
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A good comic book adaptation doesn't just mean adapting everything that happens, it just means making something good based on the source material. You don't have to read comic books to know if a Batman or Superman movie is good or not. And come on, I even said that being dark and gritty isn't bad, it's just dull when it's done badly. Daredevil was an example I gave of it being handled well. Not on it adapting the source material well.
Me liking the MCU a lot doesn't have much to do with me thinking this movie is shit. I'd love a DC movie universe done well, but I'm not liking the direction it's going in. Bruce Timm's DCAU is a great example of it done well I think.
And I'm not judging the full movie based on one teaser trailer. I'd like to be pleasantly surprised by this, but I'm not going to expect it to be any good based on that trailer and Man of Steel.
Also:
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Because the only person that doesn't know anything seems to be you.
but saying its a bad adaptation because of 50 seconds of footage is laughably bad and just shows your pathetic Marvel loyalism.
Like, it seems that you don't talk to many people.
How about you stop treating me like an idiot when all I did was say an opposing opinion about superhero movies. :|
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Just that what you dislike makes no sense. You don't like that Superman is 'treated as a god figure' and don't see that people would see a alien that came from the sky, that can fly, is immortal and moves super fast as a 'god'. Like, I don't even know if your joking or just want to dislike a movie for the sake of disliking it.
Facts are we don't know the story, I don't see much people can hate on it. As for its not a good adaptation for following some of the biggest award winning stories.... then you don't know what a good adaptation is. The thing that boggles my mind is that your comparing a 50 second teaser of a trailer (This is just a teaser of a trailer that will play at iMax) to a 13 episode Netflix series. Come on.
Just saying, not much logic there.
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Just that what you dislike makes no sense. You don't like that Superman is 'treated as a god figure' and don't see that people would see a alien that came from the sky, that can fly, is immortal and moves super fast as a 'god'. Like, I don't even know if your joking or just want to dislike a movie for the sake of disliking it.
I don't think that in this day in age, there'd be that many people who'd seriously think that. Because now it'd be possible for everyone to know what Superman is. Like, the only way you wouldn't be able to know is if you'd be completely isolated from current events that are going on.
Then again, there are people who don't believe in global warming, don't vaccinate their kids, still think that GamerGate is about ethics etc. so maybe you have a point there.
Facts are we don't know the story, I don't see much people can hate on it. As for its not a good adaptation for following some of the biggest award winning stories.... then you don't know what a good adaptation is. The thing that boggles my mind is that your comparing a 50 second teaser of a trailer (This is just a teaser of a trailer that will play at iMax) to a 13 episode Netflix series. Come on.
I was never comparing Daredevil to Superman v Batman, I was using it as an example of dark and gritty done well. While Man of Steel (and the little I've seen from this teaser trailer) just reeks of trying too hard to be dark and gritty to me. Which is what I meant with FALSE GOD. It's just trying so hard to make Superman as this dark and serious character who has people divided against him with imagery like that.
And I'm pretty sure I didn't say that a movie is bad for adapting an award winning story. I said that you don't need to have read the source material to know if a movie or TV show that's based on it is good.
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Right.
Anyway according to Batgirl comic writer Gail Simone, Wonder Woman plays a bigger role than a cameo in this movie and is really well done. But who knows, might be to 'grimdark' cuz shes the Amazon God of War.
My only worry is how they are going to fit all this into a 2 hour movie. Its hard to do and hard to care about all the new characters at the same time. Amazing Spiderman 2 failed due to all these plot points and Avengers 2 having 3 new characters (that no one cares about).
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...and Avengers 2 having 3 new characters (that no one cares about).
Who's judging a movie before it's out now? :V
And do you seriously still think that the movie being grimdark is the problem for me after I specified multiple times that it isn't?
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Your complaint is that Superman is being seen as a God and there being people saying that he isn't. You dislike that plot point and I find it awesome. maybe its because I read comics and see the 'God image' of Superman used and happy they are finally adapting it to movies. I just thought you might dislike the idea of an actual self proclaimed God being the movie too (Wonder Woman does think of herself as a God in the comics).
Personally felt like the first Avengers movies had a lot of 'underdeveloped' characters and instead of moving forward in the sequel and fleshing them out they added more characters. The movies have become too sitcom like for my taste and not for me. Weird cuz Guardians of the Galaxy did a better job selling the characters in the movie.
Superman's god imagery has been a long time coming, no surprising since its major influence is All-Star Superman (http://media.dcentertainment.com/sites/default/files/files/2010/06/absoass2.jpg):
(http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/wda00247.png)
(https://faithfilm.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/man-of-steel21.jpg)
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Actually George, the IMAX event is tomorrow (at least in the US). There was a 20 second teaser, but then that full bootleg one went up, so to salvage everything WB posted the trailer meant for tomorrow on Friday and announced that tomorrow's event will have more footage and free swag.
I actually got two tickets for tomorrow, but the theater is 45 mins away and the tickets do not confirm seats, meaning I'd have to wait in line 1-2 hours early. AKA, fuck it, I'm not going.
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Too much shit to see muscular Ben Affleck look sad on a 80 foot screen.
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Me liking the MCU a lot doesn't have much to do with me thinking this movie is shit.
And I'm not judging the full movie based on one teaser trailer.
Thinks the movie is shit based on the teaser, says not judging the movie based on the teaser.
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Slip of the tongue. :V
EDIT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR5HuQK5fYY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR5HuQK5fYY)
Also, to be a bit more positive: I do think Zack Snyder's style might work better with Batman than with Superman. And I could see the fight scenes being entertaining at least. So I do expect there to be parts of the movie I'll like. I mostly just have low expectations as to how he'll handle Superman, as I really didn't like how they handled him in Man of Steel and so far I haven't really seen anything that indicates that they'll try to make it better than that.
I do wonder how they'll handle Wonder Woman and Aquaman though. Like, it doesn't seem like the main plot would have much to do with them, and it's weird that they're going to be introduced to the DC movie universe like that. If it's not done well it'd look like they're put in there just for the sake of showing that there's a cinematic universe.
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Anyway, thanks for letting us know you dislike this movie for the 100th time. I think we got it.
Anyway, It seems some people have already come back from the extended trailer reveal and said there is a new scene where they jump at eachother and then some cuts and then its Superman running (not flying away). So I assume some kryptonite will play its part.
I really do hope they play Batman as the paranoid, plan for a plan for a plan for plan type of guy.
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Anyway, thanks for letting us know you dislike this movie for the 100th time. I think we got it.
Thanks for not reading my post.
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Anyway, It seems some people have already come back from the extended trailer reveal and said there is a new scene where they jump at eachother and then some cuts and then its Superman running (not flying away). So I assume some kryptonite will play its part.
I really do hope they play Batman as the paranoid, plan for a plan for a plan for plan type of guy.
I just hope it's not a big Batman circle-jerk "OMG batman u so smart, i love ur plot armor so much"
(I understand the hypocrisy of saying this as a massive Punisher fan)
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Yeah neither do I. I hope its not too focused on the fight either. I think there is a lot of misleading in this trailer imo and just makes us ask more questions than anything. At this point we already know everything we need to know about Mr. Man of Steel, but nothing about Batman and I think at this point thats why people are more excited about him.
Like... he is a retired batman? How many Robins did he have? Have any of them died? There was a link picture of a grave stone from a set that had Richard Grayson on it. Why is Batman after superman?
But they have also opened new questions for Superman as to why he has an army (if he even leads it).
I think the issue with the trailer is that it just makes you wonder more and talk about what could be going on. So I say for a 1 year trailer (not coming out till next year), it does a fine job. Imagine if they gave a trailer where it showed everything? No one would care in a year.
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Yeah true, it's a teaser, teasers are meant to make you ask questions more than give any answers.
I'm really curious as to the Superman army as well, doesn't seem to be his style.
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I get the sense that the army is something he didn't ask for. Like perhaps its an act of solidarity for his actions in Man of Steel, soldiers who stand with him even though he doesn't want it.
Also, I feel that Bruce Wayne is both afraid and jealous of Superman. Batman has likely gone through a lot of shit and lost a lot of people close to him, and yet he continues to be a branded a menace. Meanwhile Superman swoops in and is a seen as a god to many. The Alfred quote says as much with the line “That’s how it starts—the fever, the rage, the feeling of powerlessness that turns good men… cruel.”
Also, I may be opening a can of worms here, but I cannot stand the argument lodged against superhero movies where people say "X would never do Y". I get that there are rules set in superhero universes and yes there are things that some heroes would never do, but I don't see what is wrong with occasionally breaking these rules. Like, "Superman would never kill". Well... what if he did? How did he make the decision to never kill? I find these sorts of things to be interesting territory to explore, especially after 5+ Superman movies and 75 years.
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Also, I may be opening a can of worms here, but I cannot stand the argument lodged against superhero movies where people say "X would never do Y". I get that there are rules set in superhero universes and yes there are things that some heroes would never do, but I don't see what is wrong with occasionally breaking these rules. Like, "Superman would never kill". Well... what if he did? How did he make the decision to never kill? I find these sorts of things to be interesting territory to explore, especially after 5+ Superman movies and 75 years.
This is def a can of worms. But basically why make an adaption of a character and then change one of his core tenants that makes him so? Why not just make an original character instead of wasting the name?
I don't know enough about Superman to comment on him killing, but I can totally understand people getting upset about someone bringing a character to another medium and then just altering very important aspects of them. It feels like a wasted opportunity, and just reeks of mis-use of a property to make some quick money.
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I guess my take on it is, its not as though he is adverse to killing as though it is something he is unable to do. Like, if Wolverine got cut and maintained a scar that would be going against what the character can do. Superman CAN kill, the question is: should he and does he want to? He did once in Man of Steel and it seemed to really affect him deeply. Now, if they build on this in Batman v Superman and it leads to Superman vowing never to kill again, which in turn works in Batman's favor, I buy it. But if it leads to a Superman who has the taste for blood (which is not the vibe I'm getting) then I could see it really going against his character.
Speaking of never killing, Batman seems to abide by this right? Or is it "Batman never uses guns"? 1989's Batman had him killing a lot of people with explosives and punches off of railings. Not that I'm saying "Batman killed so Superman can!", just pointing out how easily 1989's Batman broke a rule, but unlike Man of Steel they really didn't acknowledge it.
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The way I saw it from Man of Steel, Superman is a God like being. He does stuff we cannot do and in All-Star Superman his immortality of sorts comes into question. He is beyond us, he can destroy us in a blink of an eye. Imagine someone as powerful like him came in and tried to murder everyone in the room, or imagine you got into a conflict with someone like you who wanted to kill a room full of new born babies. I think him killing someone like him, that humans wouldn't be able to stop is what caused him to kill Zod. Personally wish he just knocked him out and took him to the Phantom Zone but it happen.
Personally think that will be called into question, even in a weaken state and stuff, I doubt Superman will kill a human. Seems this movie is more about the human threat than the alien.
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Also forgot to post the full Batman outfit for the movie
(http://i.imgur.com/q7X15fE.jpg)
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Like I said earlier: I like the Batman costume. They're clearly going for a costume like the one in The Dark Knight Returns, and they did a pretty good job making one like it.
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Kinda looks (shape) like Jim 'the man' Lee's Batman sorta:
(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/52462/2860557-144_batman_jim_lee2.jpg)
But yeah, he is also influenced by Dark Knight Returns. I just like his sleeker look than 'the bulk' known as the Dark Knight Returns.
Good time to be Frank Miller seeing as his Daredevil got a Netflix adaptation that was 'sorta true' to his work and now getting Dark Knight Returns adaptation of sorts. Not to mention his 300 and Sin City. He might have been a douche bag but the dude is dying so at least he gets to see his Batman book come to life.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2731443/Sin-City-creator-Frank-Miller-shows-nasty-new-black-eye-poses-guffawing-Josh-Brolin-A-Dame-To-Kill-photocall.html
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Not really, related to this movie in particular, but related to the universe that it's in and still Batman related. The new movie Joker played by Jared Leto:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDZbuEiUUAAtGQb.jpg)
They really, really want people to know that the Joker is crazy, don't they?
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Sounds like TimmiT is on a path to discredit this movie because its DC Comics that he has to update it with everything bad other future DC films.
/sarcasm.
I think it would be fine without the tattoos and grill teeth. Though i probably wouldn't even mind the grills, I find them to make the mouth look dirty and disgusting, so that would work. That tattoos are terrible as fuck.
Tho the pose reminds me of:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/53/Jokerkillingjoke.png)
What a weird way to celebrate Joker's month ... with a jiggalo version of the Joker.
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Don't really care for his look to be honest, way too new school. Although, if he can play the character okay, I won't mind.
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I'm not liking the look, remove the green hair and I wouldn't even know it was the Joker. Seems more like a deranged fanboy than anything else.
Extreme amount of scorn on the DAMAGED tattoo across his forehead. Who thought that was a good idea? Those tattoos aren't even good!
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Regarding the teeth, they don't look like grills, they look like fillings and caps meant to replace his teeth which were likely punched in by Batman.
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I actually really like it. I think The Joker has had so many variations in the comics, it's cool that we should see a bunch of different looks and styles in the movies. Crime lord lunatic with flair in Tim Burton's Batman, psychotic grimdark-ish anarchy in The Dark Knight, and now we'll get seemingly batshit insane punk with this movie.
The only thing I'm not sure about it, if this is meant to be the 'Shared Universe' Joker, it's a bit extreme. Having said that, if I had it my way, I would have the Joker turn up next time in the same universe looking completely different again. Without explanation. It's just the Joker, he looks different and is portrayed by a different actor in every instalment is how I would do it.
(We all know DC is going to fuck their movie attempts up anyway, so they may as well have fun with this design.)
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One thing I thought of when I saw this Joker was how he compares to Affleck's Batman. Like, the two are so completely different. I'm really hoping we get a scene with Affleck Batman and Leto's Joker, because Leto looks like he would annoy the hell out of Batman.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WWzgGyAH6Y
I find it funny they retconned Man of Steel's ending from upbeat and happy to dark and thought proving, you know they originally wanted just extreme amounts of destruction porn.
Not really feeling this Luthor at all, I'm kind of worried they might go with the Gene Hackmen Luther than the comic Luther we currently have.
Otherwise loved it, I'm really enjoying how fast and slick this Batman is looking despite being the bulkiest one we've seen.
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Outside of Luthor, holy shit. This is going to be the best movie of 2016, I think this will probably be one of the highest regarded movies in Comics, if its pulled correctly. The only thing that is bothering me is how dense the overall package is: They have to establish Gotham (who in this universe is a sister city to Metropolis), Bruce Wayne, his past carrer, Robin dying, Superman's story, Introduce new Batman characters (Gordon, Alfred), establish a story for Wonder Woman, Establish Lex, etc
That is a lot.
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It's too much even for a 3 hour film, I just hope it's not a convoluted mess.
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[spoiler]Not to mention, rumor is that they fight Doomsday in the end and by the looks of the fighting (like Wonder Woman being thrown around) who else can do that to her? [/spoiler]
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[spoiler]Not to mention, rumor is that they fight Doomsday in the end and by the looks of the fighting (like Wonder Woman being thrown around) who else can do that to her? [/spoiler]
George SPOILER THAT SHIT PLZ!
[spoiler]Makes sense though, I guess Luthor get's Zod's body and tries to make a super solider army out of it[/spoiler]
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Suicide Squad Trailer is also up somewhat: https://vid.me/NHC9
WARNING: VERTICAL AND POTATO QUALITY AHEAD
That being said, I actually really liked how Leto pulled off Joker here, even in just the laugh.
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What was it Joker said the first time he appeared after laughing?
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What was it Joker said the first time he appeared after laughing?
"Oh I'm not going to kill you... I'm just going to hurt you, really, really, bad."
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I done used spoilers, even tho I don't think its a big spoiler but don't wanna ruin anything for people.
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If he's in there(won't say his name) I'll shit my pants with excitement.
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I think one of the craziest things is just how they are noticing the little details. Like:
(http://giant.gfycat.com/MatureWealthyAndeancondor.gif)
Above: Man of Steel
Below: BvS trailer: Bruce Wayne looking at the damage from the outside.
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Here's a somewhat acurrate impression of myself after watching the BvS Comic-Con teaser and the Suicide Squad teaser:
(http://i60.tinypic.com/2z8pa28.gif)
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Am I the only one not feeling this at all?
* Shit tier Lex Luthor
* 'God hates fags Superman', 'Superman is an illegal Alien' stuff. (Which was almost saved by his mother telling him to change that perception, but then 'lol whatever, you don't owe the world anything')
* Crowbarring Wonder Woman into what is already a too-stacked movie
I know that they want to be different to Marvel, but I don't like them trying to make the universe so dark and Superman be so feared. It feels more like a movie from Lex Luthor's perspective.
I was willing to give this Lex a chance, but I really, really don't like him at all. This is a big deal for me, why does he have hair? This is discriminatory towards bald men.
It just feels like this movie is going to be a mess. That, or it's not going to be based around Superman fighting Batman at all and it's just bait and switch to set up Justice League and they all become friends after twenty minutes (which I would actually prefer to another 'What would happen if Superman was EVIL' scenario).
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I was willing to give this Lex a chance, but I really, really don't like him at all. This is a big deal for me, why does he have hair? This is discriminatory towards bald men.
Yeah it's a bit of a downer, Lex is one of my favourite comic book villains but he doesn't really command that much of a presence like Luthor should.
Agree on all your other points except the Superman being dangerous, I think it's fair to assume there would be some people who fear him. But the funniest thing is this is the total opposite of what they were showing in Man of Steel with its upbeat ending and kiss scene. I guess Zynder/Warner Bros took to heart people on the internet complaining about the destruction of Metropolis and decided to run with that theme.
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I really like the Back to the Future Part 2 direction that are taking Bruce Wayne's story, where we see Man of Steel events from another perspective. I'm sure some crazy fan edit will emerge editing Man of Steel and Batman V. Superman into one 5 hour film.
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Mademan doesn't like a award winning plot point from Superman comics in a Superman related movie? Maybe, you know, you don't like Superman?
Here is the HD trailer for Suicide Squad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLLQK9la6Go
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I still think it's a little funny seeing DC go from titles like "The Dark Knight" & "Man of Steel" to what we have now. "World's Finest" might've been a neat subtitle as an homage to the first crossover between Batman and Superman. As for the movie itself, I'm a little nervous about if the story will feel too bloated, & Jesse Eisenberg hasn't sold me as Lex from his moments in the trailer. Plus, why doesn't Wonder Woman's costume look as colorful as Superman's?
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I agree about the color but thats Snyder filter for you. It is weird, I always considered Wonder Woman's costume very bright and colorful, but it seems that they want to mute it.
This is the press shot:
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/51b3dc8ee4b051b96ceb10de/51ce6099e4b0d911b4489b79/53136e21e4b0aeaef76e0ecc/1393866458064/batman-vs-superman-costume-designer-teases-wonder-womans-look-preview.jpg?format=1000w)
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Also.
What is it with Zynder and tattoos? Like they're not even particularly good ones either.
ROTTEN? DAMAGED???!?
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Mademan doesn't like a award winning plot point from Superman comics in a Superman related movie? Maybe, you know, you don't like Superman?
I wouldn't say I'm a big fan, I don't think I've made it a secret I think most cape comics are bad anyway. I did really enjoy All-Star Superman, and really liked 'Whatever happened to the man of tomorrow' and 'What's so funny about Truth, Justice and the American Way?'.
I think I just prefer it when Superman is played in the 'classic' way? I like him being the 'boy scout' kind of character that's unflinchingly good and powerful. I don't mind seeing the 'What if Supes was the bad guy' idea, but I feel it's been run into the ground. And for establishing a franchise with the tent-pole character, I would have preferred they ran with Superman in the more classic sense.
To be fair, they've done several movies like that in the past, so...
I still don't like the look of the film overall though. It runs deeper than just what I felt Superman should look like.
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It'll sell, but I really don't think this looks good. I find Superman a meh character anyway, but who in the world have they got playing Lex Luther? He sounds terrible and looks like a man in drag.