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Title: Tokyo Game Show 2015: Japan is back, no seriously guys, JAPAN IS BACK!
Post by: Aki-at on September 17, 2015, 05:30:21 pm
Anyone else impressed with the output from various Japanese developers? Quick list of the highlights but I've obviously overlooked quite a lot.

Ni-Oh
Gameplay demonstration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMXncaX0q4w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMXncaX0q4w)

Dragon Quest Builders
Formal announcement trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIwpQnn-XqU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIwpQnn-XqU)
18 minute gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR_Op3Qc0JA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR_Op3Qc0JA)

Gravity Rush 2
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dupTQmj0A6U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dupTQmj0A6U)

Yakuza Kiwami
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpZTSci_UDE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpZTSci_UDE)

Star Ocean 5
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KDPFXPOVaI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KDPFXPOVaI)
Gameplay demonstration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzG6ig9nRxA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzG6ig9nRxA)
Gameplay demonstration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS3-UcVp9II (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS3-UcVp9II)

Attack on Titan
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpAFmvSvTtE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpAFmvSvTtE)

Marriage Breaker Simulator 2000 (Plz avoid Barry and Piro!!!!!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjzYaBDnakU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjzYaBDnakU)

God Eater Resurrection
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=44&v=S87-DP4Qdpo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=44&v=S87-DP4Qdpo)

Monster Hunter Stories
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=101&v=wtWOnwQAeUo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=101&v=wtWOnwQAeUo)

Ace Attorney 6
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfVkz6yRmiI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfVkz6yRmiI)

Persona 5
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvpOwQaqRXA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvpOwQaqRXA)

Digimon: The Next Order
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1&v=Jhum4daQILE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1&v=Jhum4daQILE)

Ikenie to Yuki no Setsuna (Oldschool styled RPG)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1&v=3dhPavSo7v4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1&v=3dhPavSo7v4)

Personally excited must for, outside of SEGA, is Gravity Rush 2, Star Ocean 5, Dragon Quest Builders and Ni-Oh. Really great TGS we're having this year, hopefully these games can deliver on their promise
Title: Re: Tokyo Game Show 2015: Japan is back, no seriously guys, JAPAN IS BACK!
Post by: Happy Cat on September 17, 2015, 06:24:32 pm
Really excited by everything going on at TGS. It's great to see Japan once again embracing the kinds of games that made people like them, rather then trying to copy western games.

More of this:

(http://i.imgur.com/l2tiRl6.jpg?1)

Less of this:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7jaEHf5DhAE/TbEmykAesCI/AAAAAAAABNI/OApySESgZes/s1600/NCloudTriAce09.jpg)

Although it seems capcom still hasn't learned, but who cares about them anymore?
Title: Re: Tokyo Game Show 2015: Japan is back, no seriously guys, JAPAN IS BACK!
Post by: Phantasos on September 17, 2015, 08:02:00 pm
Hey, Capcom is actually getting its shit straight. Porting Dragon's Dogma to the PC, porting the original Remake to PC, Monster Hunter 4 was great and X looks even better,  making Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition, remaking Resident Evil 2, making Revelations 2, still betting on Ace Attorney as a flagship title (A fucking visual novel game, think about that for a sec) and Street Fighter 5 is actually going to have all of its post launch content for free.

It's easy to hate on Capcom on account of them shitting the bed last generation but they're doing better than a lot of AAA companies in this generation. And hey, Phoenix Wright is finally getting an anime.
Title: Re: Tokyo Game Show 2015: Japan is back, no seriously guys, JAPAN IS BACK!
Post by: Radrappy on September 18, 2015, 12:59:31 am
I guess If I had anything disappointing to point out it would be that the majority of these are sequels/continuations of long running properties.  But hey, quality looking stuff is quality looking stuff.

I'm really looking forward to SOV.  I really enjoyed 3 for what it was(nutty twist and all) and skipped 4 completely because of the bad press it got.  It kind of looks like the Phantasy Star V we'll never get.   

Ni-oh also looks badass though that kind of ground has been well traveled at this point by the Onimusha series. 
Title: Re: Tokyo Game Show 2015: Japan is back, no seriously guys, JAPAN IS BACK!
Post by: Radrappy on September 18, 2015, 04:43:54 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2Q71GlUrvs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2Q71GlUrvs)




so the AoT game looks fucking sick
Title: Re: Tokyo Game Show 2015: Japan is back, no seriously guys, JAPAN IS BACK!
Post by: TimmiT on September 18, 2015, 07:19:17 am
Hey, Capcom is actually getting its shit straight. Porting Dragon's Dogma to the PC, porting the original Remake to PC, Monster Hunter 4 was great and X looks even better,  making Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition, remaking Resident Evil 2, making Revelations 2, still betting on Ace Attorney as a flagship title (A fucking visual novel game, think about that for a sec) and Street Fighter 5 is actually going to have all of its post launch content for free.

It's easy to hate on Capcom on account of them shitting the bed last generation but they're doing better than a lot of AAA companies in this generation. And hey, Phoenix Wright is finally getting an anime.
Half of the games you just mentioned are ports. :V


But yeah, they do put out decent stuff. But I wouldn't say that they've got their shit back together. Most of what they're putting out are sequels to franchises that already have had shitton of games, and none of them really do anything hugely different aside from Monster Hunter Stories.
Title: Re: Tokyo Game Show 2015: Japan is back, no seriously guys, JAPAN IS BACK!
Post by: Phantasos on September 18, 2015, 07:38:33 am
Half of the games you just mentioned are ports. :V

Hey, some of us want to play Dragon's Dogma at a framerate above 15 fps. And Dragon's Dogma is fucking awesome, man. Plus DMC4: Special edition is a small expansion. But yeah, some of those are ports. Long overdue ports. I don't see how focusing on sequels in necessarily a bad thing, everyone does that. It's not about doing something necessarily different, it's about standing out in the genres they've picked and stuff like Dragon's Dogma and especially Devil May Cry are some of the absolute best in their respective genres. And there's still nothing quite like Ace Attorney as far as AAA Publishers go.

Ni-oh also looks badass though that kind of ground has been well traveled at this point by the Onimusha series.

Man, the last Onimusha game was on a PS2. We sorely needed this game. Which looks strangely and surprisingly high quality for a Team Ninja game. Ninja Gaiden 3 was a joke and Razor's Edge was just a reskinned Ninja Gaiden 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2&v=yuY6R-iF3XU
Title: Re: Tokyo Game Show 2015: Japan is back, no seriously guys, JAPAN IS BACK!
Post by: TimmiT on September 18, 2015, 11:15:19 am
And there's still nothing quite like Ace Attorney as far as AAA Publishers go.
Visual novels have been a thing for a very long time. Maybe AAA publishers generally don't put those out, but I don't see how that's relevant.

And sequels aren't necessarily a bad thing. However, when it's the only thing the publisher is putting out aside from ports, and none of the sequels really do anything different from what the games before it did, then there's a problem.
Title: Re: Tokyo Game Show 2015: Japan is back, no seriously guys, JAPAN IS BACK!
Post by: pirovash88 on September 18, 2015, 12:01:39 pm
TGS was pretty great this year. It's nice to see some JRPGs like SOV making a comeback.

Only thing is, it's difficult to know which games will actually be released here in the US. I also have to be reserved when it comes to TGS because plenty of these games may stay in Japan only.
Title: Re: Tokyo Game Show 2015: Japan is back, no seriously guys, JAPAN IS BACK!
Post by: Draikin on September 18, 2015, 07:43:50 pm
Only thing is, it's difficult to know which games will actually be released here in the US. I also have to be reserved when it comes to TGS because plenty of these games may stay in Japan only.
That's something where I think companies like Sega still drop the ball. They could be doing a lot more with the effort they put into their TGS showings. For example, Sony is promoting the new Gravity Rush trailers on their official EU and NA blogs, even bothering to feature slightly different trailers depending on the region (the game is called Gravity Daze in Japan). Sega on the other hand are still focused on Japan only, while they could be more aggressive and already confirm games for localization right away. So they have a TGS website and live TGS video streams, but those ignore the rest of the world. Imagine how much content Sega of America could post on their blog and social media right now if they could work together with Sega of Japan.

Instead, we often have to wait years to see games localized (if we get them at all) and run into situations like with Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax, which is released so late that the game's "updated" version will be released in Japan mere months after the original is released over here. The same goes for Yakuza 5, which is lagging so far behind its release in Japan that people there have already played two newer Yakuza games by the time it's released in the West Let's not even talk about Phantasy Star Online 2. And then they're surprised their games don't sell in the West.
Title: Re: Tokyo Game Show 2015: Japan is back, no seriously guys, JAPAN IS BACK!
Post by: TimmiT on September 19, 2015, 06:49:26 am
TGS was pretty great this year. It's nice to see some JRPGs like SOV making a comeback.

Only thing is, it's difficult to know which games will actually be released here in the US. I also have to be reserved when it comes to TGS because plenty of these games may stay in Japan only.
Okay, just from the top of my head, some games from TGS you'll see localized:

- Gravity Rush Remastered in both US and Europe
- Gravity Rush 2 in Europe, US has yet to be confirmed
- Koei Tecmo usually localizes everything they put out, so stuff like their One Piece game or Nioh should be coming
- Everything Atlus puts out, so 13 Sentinels and Persona 5.
- Danganronpa 3
- That generic looking Resident Evil fps
Title: Re: Tokyo Game Show 2015: Japan is back, no seriously guys, JAPAN IS BACK!
Post by: Phantasos on September 19, 2015, 08:14:17 am
Visual novels have been a thing for a very long time. Maybe AAA publishers generally don't put those out, but I don't see how that's relevant.

Of course it's relevant. It shows Capcom doesn't only bet on overbloated, shallow Hollywood style projects that eventually blow their load as soon as they're out since they're committee produced garbage as they liked to do so much last generation. Ace Attorney is that rare, smaller budget series that's clearly a labor of love and of a genre that's not commonly distributed by bigger companies. It's almost exclusively an indie genre.

And sequels aren't necessarily a bad thing. However, when it's the only thing the publisher is putting out aside from ports, and none of the sequels really do anything different from what the games before it did, then there's a problem.

Now that's wonky generalization. Ace Attorney, Monster Hunter, Devil May Cry are all putting new shit on the table while building up on their original foundation. And since you're probably not really into Capcom's repertoire, the fanbase has been asking for a Dragon Dogma: Dark Arisen PC port ever since it came out 2 years ago. Not to mention the Resident Evil 2 remake. The fact that Capcom actually invited the guys behind the fan remake to discuss ideas and possibly get them a job was also pretty cool of them.

My point is that they're being less jewish and less dickish about their whole approach instead of just pushing bullshit DLC tactics up the consumers asses and blaming them for "lack of support" for specific projects, even if it still feels like they're taking small steps. They're still behind when it comes to bigger projects and stuff but that's mostly cause their internal engine Phanta Rei is going through all kinds of problems, that's why Deep Down is still M.I.A.
Title: Re: Tokyo Game Show 2015: Japan is back, no seriously guys, JAPAN IS BACK!
Post by: Happy Cat on September 19, 2015, 08:28:20 am
New project setsuna footage, I feel this game is looking really good. love the art style

https://youtu.be/tN9Gv0hf0wI?t=11916 (https://youtu.be/tN9Gv0hf0wI?t=11916)


(click the link to go to correct time)
Title: Re: Tokyo Game Show 2015: Japan is back, no seriously guys, JAPAN IS BACK!
Post by: Nirmugen on September 19, 2015, 03:03:28 pm
The MaohMao Yusha Light Novel/Chain Chronicle- Fire Emblem x SMT Main character designer toi8 seems busy this year.
Title: Re: Tokyo Game Show 2015: Japan is back, no seriously guys, JAPAN IS BACK!
Post by: George on September 19, 2015, 04:11:23 pm
I really wish I was more into Square Enix games, because they are really killing it with their fan service. Especially for Americans (outside of ignoring Dragon Quest games). Though I guess I can always enjoy SaGa's new entry if its any good and Neir 2.
Title: Re: Tokyo Game Show 2015: Japan is back, no seriously guys, JAPAN IS BACK!
Post by: Phantasos on September 19, 2015, 04:31:00 pm
Ever since they changed CEO, they have been getting their shit straight so well, they're pretty much a driving force for a PS4 purchase these days. They're the anti-Konami at this point, trying to justify the ownership of home consoles rather than just pander to the shitty directions Japan is taking nowadays. They even approached Platinum Games, for Christ Sake.
Title: Re: Tokyo Game Show 2015: Japan is back, no seriously guys, JAPAN IS BACK!
Post by: pirovash88 on September 19, 2015, 04:46:41 pm
I really wish I was more into Square Enix games, because they are really killing it with their fan service. Especially for Americans (outside of ignoring Dragon Quest games). Though I guess I can always enjoy SaGa's new entry if its any good and Neir 2.

I think SE has just found their rhythm again. Keeping Eidos games Western and SE games Japanese is a perfect balance. Although i am HUGE DQ fan and wish they'd localize more of their games, starting with DQX.