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Title: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: George on July 12, 2010, 09:34:19 am
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“We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in the Avengers. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. The Avengers demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks.”
http://www.movieline.com/2010/07/marvel ... a-jerk.php (http://www.movieline.com/2010/07/marvel-to-norton-sorry-but-youre-kind-of-a-jerk.php)

Well that sucks, no Hulk curve stumps for us :( . Now let's forget that 2003's Hulk existed and also 2008's. It is all about The Avengers Hulk in 2011!!!
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: Sharky on July 12, 2010, 09:56:55 am
Hey I like Norton he’s the only reason I even bothered to watch that Hulk movie...

Then again I actually don't enjoy Marvel movies... There easy to watch and have simple plots and there just very boring action movies in the end. Not even good ones like Terminator 2... Just watchable if you want to watch something and not think.

Which is rarely the case for me. Then again thats probably perfect for people that read comic books...
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: Snowcat on July 13, 2010, 01:41:59 am
I hear that Norton was a bit of a tool to marvel in the past so they basically just said "Fuck you" to him, I think the Avengers movie is going to be so over powered with all these heroes that it will probably suck
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: SOUP on July 13, 2010, 02:12:59 am
I thought the whole point of this Marvel Studios thing was to ensure crossovers between movies.  Seems kinda odd to recast Norton.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: Barry the Nomad on July 13, 2010, 07:34:58 am
I was digging the whole Marvel mega-crossover until they replaced Terrance Howard and made Iron Man 2 into a sneak preview for Thor/Avengers. Really, I enjoyed Iron Man 1 and also liked seeing Iron Man 2. However, a week after seeing Iron Man 2 I had completely forgotten anything great about the movie. Sorta forgettable. I did really like Sam Rockwell's character, so not all was lost.

Now with Ed Norton out, I'm very much on the fence. I mean, Harry Potter can make 7 movies and only one major cast member change due to a death. Meanwhile, Marvel can't even make two movies without changing two major characters due to ineptitude.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: Emmett The Crab on July 13, 2010, 10:29:56 am
I didn't like e way they abandoned the first Hulk movie.  It had a good cast, and the story wasn't bad.  The only real problem I had with it was the bad guy at the end--his father.  that part was contrived.  Anyway, I found it annoying that they re-wrote the back story and changed the entire cast to make the movie less serious and more like a comic book / video game.

Maybe they could go back to him.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: Barry the Nomad on July 13, 2010, 02:01:39 pm
Quote from: "Emmett The Crab"
Anyway, I found it annoying that they re-wrote the back story and changed the entire cast to make the movie less serious and more like a comic book / video game.

I'll betcha they're doing the same thing to the next Spider-Man. Goddamn is that movie unnecessary!
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: George on July 13, 2010, 03:03:32 pm
He is going to go back to High School, be a outcast and shiny spider. I can't wait.

Spiderman: "What am I? Say it!"
Mary Jane: "....SPIDERMAN"
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: Barry the Nomad on July 13, 2010, 04:01:50 pm
30 year old HS students make the girls go crazy!

At the moment I'm more of a DC comics movie fan. Marvel is getting too messy.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: Emmett The Crab on July 13, 2010, 08:43:50 pm
I hope not.  I guess it's the formula that if a movie is successful, fans demand more, and they keep making movies until no one cares any more.  Keep squeezing the fruit until there's nothing left.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: MadeManG74 on July 13, 2010, 10:14:04 pm
Quote from: "Barry the Nomad"
30 year old HS students make the girls go crazy!

At the moment I'm more of a DC comics movie fan. Marvel is getting too messy.

I'm a DC Vertigo man myself, and they've had a good run of movies so far. V for Vendetta and Watchmen were both really good. I'm still waiting for them to make Preacher and 100 Bullets into movies too. I think The Boys is on it's way as well, but that's not DC anymore.

Anyway, as for this, it had to be expected that there would be changes made to the cast for the Avengers movie, with so many big name actors over so many roles in so many movies it's bound to happen.

Personally I don't mind, it's just like James Bond changing from Sean Connery to George Lazenby to Roger Moore to Timothy Dalton to Pierce Brosnan. They are all still the same continuity, just different actors portraying the roles. So long as they keep the same past and universes together I'm cool with it.


Also, Don Cheadle >>>>>>>>>>>> Guy from Iron Man 1.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: fluffymoochicken on July 14, 2010, 05:22:16 am
Quote from: "Sharky"
Then again I actually don't enjoy Marvel movies... There easy to watch and have simple plots and there just very boring action movies in the end. Not even good ones like Terminator 2... Just watchable if you want to watch something and not think.

Which is rarely the case for me. Then again thats probably perfect for people that read comic books...
If Western comic book fans knew what quality fighting/action entertainment was like, then they wouldn't be avidly following them to begin with.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: Sharky on July 14, 2010, 06:51:23 am
Quote from: "fluffymoochicken"
Quote from: "Sharky"
Then again I actually don't enjoy Marvel movies... There easy to watch and have simple plots and there just very boring action movies in the end. Not even good ones like Terminator 2... Just watchable if you want to watch something and not think.

Which is rarely the case for me. Then again thats probably perfect for people that read comic books...
If Western comic book fans knew what quality fighting/action entertainment was like, then they wouldn't be avidly following them to begin with.

Japanese comic books are JUST as bad, if not worse... Always very cliche and predictable.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: Barry the Nomad on July 14, 2010, 07:55:44 am
I think franchise movies today need to ease up on the multi-film plot plans. Take a look at Spider-Man 1-3, they totally tried to set up The Lizard but took way too long to do it and then the series was rebooted. James Bond had even worse luck, trying to plan out a multi-film plot only to have the second film be way too short and the third film canceled until further notice. Jumper attempted to be a trilogy, but failed with the first film.

I think movies, especially super hero and action ones, need to go back to being self contained stories with clear endings. No cliffhangers and lighten up on the foreshadowing to a sequel. I'm not saying it's wrong for movies to set things up for a sequel, but an entire movie shouldn't simply be a setup for the next film. The Dark Knight, Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl and Star Wars: A New Hope were all great self contained movies that also contained elements that would carry on to their sequels (I'm making an assumption with TDK).
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: George on July 14, 2010, 09:04:33 am
DC Vertigo, to be trusted. Even if the Hellblazer movie pissed me off. :(
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: Emmett The Crab on July 14, 2010, 10:02:45 am
All those horrible Batman movies weren't that long ago, and when that first Batman came out, it was the series that was going to save Batman from the corny TV show.  When they start churning out sequels, regardless of actors and directors, the results are always terrible.  I would hate to have seen Batman Forever in the Theater.  You would think people would be rioting, but each sequel was worse than the original, until by the end of the series, there's nothing good left at all.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: George on July 14, 2010, 10:13:48 am
Vertigo is separated from 'DC' label. It is owned by them, but total different direction.  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertigo_%28DC_Comics%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertigo_%28DC_Comics%29)

DC Vertigo, yes. DC label, as in the superhero stuff, they fuck everything up. Marvel at least got Kick Ass correct (In before its not really Marvel).

Looking forward to the 'movie adaptation' of 'Death: The High Cost of Living' spin-off of Sandman.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: Emmett The Crab on July 14, 2010, 11:27:57 am
I know what Vertigo is.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: George on July 14, 2010, 12:14:13 pm
???????
http://www.webwombat.com.au/entertainme ... tour-1.jpg (http://www.webwombat.com.au/entertainment/music/images/u2-vertigo-tour-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: Emmett The Crab on July 14, 2010, 12:38:54 pm
I was thinking when you guys write "DC Vertigo" you mean like DC and/or Vertigo, rather than like a hyphenated DC-Vertigo.  Anyway, sorry about that, still it bugs me when people post wikipedia links at me like I'm stupid.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammar)

http://newsrealblog.files.wordpress.com ... oster1.jpg (http://newsrealblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/saul-bass-vertigo-movie-poster1.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: George on July 14, 2010, 12:56:40 pm
I know what you mean.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cry-Baby (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cry-Baby)
http://www.sempdx.org/wp-content/upload ... ertigo.jpg (http://www.sempdx.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/stewart_novak_vertigo.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: Emmett The Crab on July 14, 2010, 01:53:09 pm
How do I delete my account?

Since this is your site, nothing's going to happen to you for insulting me, and I don't come here to get angry, so I want out.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: George on July 14, 2010, 02:09:56 pm
Just don't log in. Sorry that you can't take a joke. Jesus. You are always throwing your grammar jokes at me. I get it. I guess only you can throw jokes and everyone else takes it. If you want your account deleted over a lame "insult" like "cry baby", then PM me and I'll deactivate it.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: Emmett The Crab on July 14, 2010, 02:46:14 pm
Those aren't jokes.  Reading sentences with bad spelling, mixed-up words and bad grammar to me is like eating an aluminum can or listening to country music.  I'm sure there are others that feel the same way.  If they were typos, then that would be something else.  It's not that I want to tease you about it.  I would be really happy to see it to stop (at least on the blog posts).

Just because you put the word insult in quotation marks doesn't mean you weren't insulting me.  What are you, like in your 20's, probably still in college and you're calling me a baby?  You talk down to people, at least to me, using the anonymity of the internet as an excuse to be a jerk.  

I am seriously considering deleting my account.  I come here to de-stress.  Right now I'm going through an IRS Audit, and I just got through being sued (they weren't successful).  If I come here and George "Like the Boss" is making me angry, there's no reason to be here anymore.  It's not like I can make a complaint.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: George on July 14, 2010, 03:07:44 pm
Alright, PM me.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: fluffymoochicken on July 14, 2010, 04:36:55 pm
George, please don't scare off one of the few reasonable and mature members on these forums. x_x
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: Emmett The Crab on July 14, 2010, 04:42:27 pm
Thanks Fluffymoochicken.  

George:  Sorry for posting the wiki link to grammar.  I was trying to show how condescending that is, but it was a crappy thing to do.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: Sega Uranus on July 14, 2010, 05:10:51 pm
George did not mean anything by it, he is just pretty aggressive with his views and comebacks. He is a good guy and I highly doubt he would want you to leave, especially someone who has been with the community so long.

Away from that for a moment, I wholeheartedly agree that the cast of 2003's Hulk was a billion times better and wish they had at least given it another shot, even if just another game release or something.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: Sharky on July 14, 2010, 05:17:20 pm
What the heck is going on here! Everybody chill out...

First of all Emmett, I'm sorry to hear about all that going on in your life right now I'm sure we'd all be stressed out with that kind of stuff. However I would rather you didn't leave our forum, I'd hate for any of our members to leave.

Secondly... I don't think George ment anything serious about the cry baby link thing.

As for the errors in our grammar; Well, I'm actually Dyslexic! I could barely spell anything over 5 letters until was 11 or 12. And George was taught everything he knows by wild baboons.

The thing is nobody that posts on this site is a journalists or even a writers of any kind. We have jobs outside of sitting on the internet finding Sega news all day! (Maybe hard to believe I know! =p) We do this simply because when we started out back on Sega Nerds nobody else was doing it and our love of Sega made us want to create a website for the fans like ourselves.

We do this on our free time and we sink a lot of time and effort into Segabits... But not for hits or because we enjoy writing. Hell, when we started we didn't even know the first thing about running or even making websites. You could argue we still don't but were doing it for the Sega fans. Please give us a little bit of credit.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: George on July 14, 2010, 07:27:16 pm
I love you Emmett (no homo), I don't want you to leave. But if you wish for me to delete your account, I respect you enough to go with your request.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: SOUP on July 14, 2010, 08:18:11 pm
@Emmett: Sorry to hear that the IRS is being a jerk.  I hope everything works out.

On topic: I still enjoy the editing style used in the 2003 Hulk to make it seem more like a comic book/episode of 24.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: George on July 14, 2010, 09:48:28 pm
I did too, it was better than most comic movies, in terms of editing.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: Emmett The Crab on July 15, 2010, 02:11:56 am
Thanks everyone.  It's been a stressful day.   Sharky: My wife is very dyslexic also.  It manifests in weird ways for her.  

I don't really want to leave.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: SOUP on July 15, 2010, 08:58:17 am
Quote from: "Emmett The Crab"

I don't really want to leave.

Yay :D
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: Barry the Nomad on July 15, 2010, 09:13:16 am
Ed Norton has brought us all closer! Praise be to Ed Nor-

(http://http://www.seriousrunning.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/ed-norton-x.jpg)

... never mind.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: MadeManG74 on July 15, 2010, 04:58:29 pm
Ed Norton is great. Although his performance on the Flintstones was a little weird.

[youtube:1fyrod6j]1d9_N3wYsno[/youtube:1fyrod6j]
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: Emmett The Crab on July 15, 2010, 06:42:47 pm
I think Hulk 2003 was to harshly criticized in its time, but it's really not a bad movie.  It didn't deserve to be completely ignored by the sequel.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: SOUP on July 15, 2010, 09:44:28 pm
The only problem I had with the 2003 movie was the villian. I'd much rather have more of a Hulk/Banner on the run from the military/fugitive angle, instead of a fight against mutant poodles.
Aside from that, I really enjoyed it. Ang Lee's always been pretty reliable from the movies I've seen.
Title: Re: Marvel To Norton: Sorry But You're Kind Of A Jerk
Post by: Emmett The Crab on July 16, 2010, 05:54:38 pm
Quote from: "SOUP"
The only problem I had with the 2003 movie was the villian. I'd much rather have more of a Hulk/Banner on the run from the military/fugitive angle, instead of a fight against mutant poodles.
Aside from that, I really enjoyed it. Ang Lee's always been pretty reliable from the movies I've seen.

That's my problem too.  I thought the military was enough of a villain, but the powers his father got really stretched the credibility of the movie.