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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Deefy on October 02, 2010, 05:05:34 am
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I've posted this on the SEGA Discussion Board, but if not appropriate move out.
the article: http://http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=267744
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Oh Naka, please don't let it be a motion controlled game. Really, please.
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Posted and most likely will not, if its the same game he has been teasing since Let's Dance. I mean, Move and Kinect where not a concept, at least not Kinect. They bought the company in like 2008?
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What's this got to do with Sega? I thought this site was about sega matters only, so unless you guys know for sure this game is coming from sega, i really don't know wehy its on the front page. And this criticism goes on other former sega personell who happens to find themselves on the front page. if it ain't sega it shouldn't be considered newsworthy. Forumworthty but that's it.
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He worked at SEGA, we are fans of his work. I don't think it will destroy the world letting fans of his prior series' know what he is up to. I know you disagree, but you can just scroll over the post.
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He doesn't actually reveal his publisher in his statement. Funny.
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He worked at SEGA, we are fans of his work. I don't think it will destroy the world letting fans of his prior series' know what he is up to. I know you disagree, but you can just scroll over the post.
On every single game that you know for SURE isn't coming to sega? No you're either sega bits IE Sega matters only or you aren't. You can't have it both ways.
Yes he did some minimal good for sega(No he didn't create the character of sonic or create the engine he's the coder before anyone jump on my throat)But that doesn't mean you have to follow EVERYTHING the guy does. Its not like you post anything on what the former Sega heads that actually did something for sega are up to.
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He worked at SEGA, we are fans of his work. I don't think it will destroy the world letting fans of his prior series' know what he is up to. I know you disagree, but you can just scroll over the post.
On every single game that you know for SURE isn't coming to sega? No you're either sega bits IE Sega matters only or you aren't. You can't have it both ways.
Yes he did some minimal good for sega(No he didn't create the character of sonic or create the engine he's the coder before anyone jump on my throat)But that doesn't mean you have to follow EVERYTHING the guy does. Its not like you post anything on what the former Sega heads that actually did something for sega are up to.
George focused on SEGAbits being a SEGA fan site, so anything partially related to SEGA, even if just minor stuff is good enough for him. That also gives him more to post.
It helps him stand out I think. While a site like mine would probably be considered much more boring next to this. Barry's Junkyard sites or SEGA Shiro also have a much different set of styles too. Just different ideals, and if we all wanted to have the same kind of news throughout, then what is the point of visiting more than one at all? Frankly I spend a lot of my time going around SEGA sites just because I enjoy the different type of fans the company brings.
The SEGAbits forums would be really boring if we just talked about SEGA stuff and nothing else I think. I do not really go to any other site for game related discussions because I really enjoy/appreciate everyone here's opinions over something like GAF's, and they are usually much more mature than most other game related sites I can even find.
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Joe, don't you remember that SEGA gets "first dibs" on any game made my PROPE? If SEGA decides that they don't want to publish the game, PROPE is then allowed to go to other publishers.
So until a publisher is announced, it should be considered SEGA news. 8-)
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I'm excited to see what he's got and if it's good, hope it's gonna belong with SEGA, and if it's great, i'm gonna convert to a Yuju Naka fan instead of sonic lol 8-)
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Joe, don't you remember that SEGA gets "first dibs" on any game made my PROPE? If SEGA decides that they don't want to publish the game, PROPE is then allowed to go to other publishers.
So until a publisher is announced, it should be considered SEGA news. 8-)
Quite right, for instance Namco published Ivy the kiwi
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Mario & Sonic was Naka's idea. Shocker.
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It's also possible that Yuji Naka's action game is probably going to use Move and Kinect. (http://http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-02-yuji-naka-sonic-and-mario-was-my-idea)
But evidently Naka's a man with many ideas: not only is he interested in new technologies such as Move and Kinect - he's already built games for them.
"Yes I'm very much excited about the new technologies," Naka said. "I'm hoping I can create something exciting using those new technologies.
"Actually," he revealed, "I worked on two games that unfortunately didn't come out and those two games used those two technologies you just mentioned."
Of course, that second quote kinda derails that.
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He consistently cancels his games, and keeps releasing mobile games to compensate for the investment.
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He worked at SEGA, we are fans of his work. I don't think it will destroy the world letting fans of his prior series' know what he is up to. I know you disagree, but you can just scroll over the post.
On every single game that you know for SURE isn't coming to sega? No you're either sega bits IE Sega matters only or you aren't. You can't have it both ways.
Yes he did some minimal good for sega(No he didn't create the character of sonic or create the engine he's the coder before anyone jump on my throat)But that doesn't mean you have to follow EVERYTHING the guy does. Its not like you post anything on what the former Sega heads that actually did something for sega are up to.
George focused on SEGAbits being a SEGA fan site, so anything partially related to SEGA, even if just minor stuff is good enough for him. That also gives him more to post.
It helps him stand out I think. While a site like mine would probably be considered much more boring next to this. Barry's Junkyard sites or SEGA Shiro also have a much different set of styles too. Just different ideals, and if we all wanted to have the same kind of news throughout, then what is the point of visiting more than one at all? Frankly I spend a lot of my time going around SEGA sites just because I enjoy the different type of fans the company brings.
The SEGAbits forums would be really boring if we just talked about SEGA stuff and nothing else I think. I do not really go to any other site for game related discussions because I really enjoy/appreciate everyone here's opinions over something like GAF's, and they are usually much more mature than most other game related sites I can even find.
I didn't say the forums now did I? I said it shouldn't really be on the front page when you have no idea if the game is headed towards Sega. The forums is a different story but as far as news no way. And before someone else brings up that deal, that was scrapped a while back.
And I too go on many sites and most of them aren't that different.
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When was the last time Naka actually managed a decent game? Billy Hatcher? I don't really see how relevant he is anymore. The same with Yu Suzuki. Both are certainly iconic members of Sega's past, but one hasn't produced a game that's more complex than Farmville in half a decade, and the other has been virtually silent. I honestly think Yu is just in limbo; Sega doesn't want to invest much into him after costly flops like Shenmue and Ferrari F1, but they don't want to fire the man who made them and kept them afloat during the 1980s, and one of the only reasons the Saturn was successful in Japan. Naka's just anal retentive; he wants to innovate really badly, but he's terrified he can't live up to his reputation, and so makes innovative games that are good in the context of a shitty market, but nothing bold.
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Are we discussing Naka's new game or are we discussing how one should go about posting a news story on their own site? It makes perfect sense to post this on the front page, and even if it didn't make perfect sense George still has the right to post it.
As for the topic at hand, I'm very much hoping that Naka's action game brings with it a new character. Nothing dull like the Let's Tap! men or Ivy, hopefully something cooler. I thought Bubble Voyager was a cool design:
(http://http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3636/3447451120_cdbc8058a8.jpg)
Sort of like Sparkster mixed with Sonic.
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As for the topic at hand, I'm very much hoping that Naka's action game brings with it a new character. Nothing dull like the Let's Tap! men or Ivy, hopefully something cooler. I thought Bubble Voyager was a cool design:
(http://http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3636/3447451120_cdbc8058a8.jpg)
Sort of like Sparkster mixed with Sonic.
Yeah Barry, also to me really liked the visual of Bubble Voyager, a bit less the game design.
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When was the last time Naka actually managed a decent game? Billy Hatcher? I don't really see how relevant he is anymore. The same with Yu Suzuki. Both are certainly iconic members of Sega's past, but one hasn't produced a game that's more complex than Farmville in half a decade, and the other has been virtually silent. I honestly think Yu is just in limbo; Sega doesn't want to invest much into him after costly flops like Shenmue and Ferrari F1, but they don't want to fire the man who made them and kept them afloat during the 1980s, and one of the only reasons the Saturn was successful in Japan. Naka's just anal retentive; he wants to innovate really badly, but he's terrified he can't live up to his reputation, and so makes innovative games that are good in the context of a shitty market, but nothing bold.
As usual concise and too the point.Another excellent JB post. I agree with most of it. Naka doesn't have the protection of Sega anymore to hide behind when things go wrong like sonic the hedgehog for next gen or take credit with when it all goes right like SONIC 2 and now he's running his actual company(set up and paid for by Sega) he's finding just how diffulcult things at the top really are. And we were led to believe by a certain Nakafanboy that he left sega because he couldn't make games anymore. He's not really making them now is he?
With Yu, well he deserves the rest really considering how much he did for sega. But at least he's still in sega.
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sega because he couldn't make games anymore. He's not really making them now is he?
I think the real answer was Naka-san was tired of working as CEO and with a Team of Over 170 staff , and wanted to go back to a smaller teams and try and be more hands on.
And for the last time, Naka only talks about/Tales credit for games he's worked on.
But at least he's still in sega
What was the last great game Yu Suzuki made, what he's up too ?. Yu Suzuki is semi Retired , and is being treated horribly by the current SEGA board IMO. The man real talent is produce High Eng games, not sitting at a empty desk getting paid for doing nothing. It's an insult to the great man talent , either let him make games, or just let him go
But the trouble with SEGA is not enough 'young' staff coming through the ranks, not training up the lines of next gen development. Its always the old guard running the shows .
Its time people like Ueda-san, Kikuchi -san, Osaki-san their own Teams and Budgets, they are the 'Future'
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Rieko Kodama trained the Valkyria teams via Skies of Arcadia.
Noriyoshi Oba did train the new Team Shinobi, but most of them were disbanded and went to work for Capcom (/Platinum Games), Namco and Konami.
Toshihiro Nagoshi has trained 2 development teams.
Hisao Oguchi passed the torch to Mie Kumagi.
Yu Suzuki passed the torch (as well as Shenmue responsibility) to some body at AM2, I made about his successor years back, but since AM2 is rotting in the Arcades, I don't keep tabs on them.
You should read my other post "Why The Dreamcast? Part 1" It clearly illustrates how Sega and Arcade gaming died with the Dreamcast.
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This is going offtopic and further discussion that does not involve Naka or what his game will be will be deteled without any further notice as talking about the future of SEGA or wither a faceless coperation is dead or not is not the discussion at hand. So get back on topic everyone.
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Deletion is a bad idea cause it is rude!
I recommend dividing the discussion.
Anyway Yuji Naka's main mistake with Ivy was releasing it on Windows Phone. It is a very good game, and the Wii Version is a proper innovative and fun looking game. If we were seeing it for the first time this fall it would've made a stronger impression.
Instead the first build we saw featured a 25 level game, with the same backgrounds and for a Phone no one had ever heard off.
6 months later the game is ported to Wiiware/DSiWare and another 6 months later that same game is turning into a retail release. This time with 50 Levels featuring different backgrounds and music per level.
Weird?
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Naka's newest game is coming by Kadokawa Games, and not by Sega.
Topic over!
First pic:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/fbe265103014666 (http://www.imagebam.com/image/fbe265103014666)
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Naka's newest game is coming by Kadokawa Games, and not by Sega.
Topic over!
First pic:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/fbe265103014666 (http://www.imagebam.com/image/fbe265103014666)
I'm curious what this will be. But honestly, did he make any exciting game in the last years? Since 2006 he made Sonic 2006 which was awful, then Let's Tap, Let's Catch, Ivy the Kiwi and a platform game that was canned. So maybe we shouldn't expect too much (and I for sure don't)