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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Tad on October 01, 2016, 12:09:45 pm
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Digital Foundry take a look at Sega's Daytona:
https://youtu.be/Tv_GQNh9D68
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That's a great video! I enjoy their analysis. Still, I think the Saturn port of Daytona USA is admirable in a lot of ways. In spite of its limitations, it's the kind of conversion that could actually help you practice for when you go to the arcade, especially if you play with the racing wheel. It also still manages to be a fun game.
As for the 360 version of Daytona... come on backwards compatibility!
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They used some of George's video of SEGA Racing Classic.
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Heh, hope he played well.
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Check out this 4X PS3 + 4X Logitech G27 Racing Wheel setup for the HD port of Daytona USA.
http://youtu.be/-R-Ne04Uuzo
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Arcade players rejoice. Daytona Reloaded is coming !!!
At the AAMA Gala, Sega is bringing back one of their beloved franchises, Daytona USA, but I’ve had next to no information beyond the title of the game which was labelled Daytona Reloaded !!!
Source : http://arcadeheroes.com/2016/10/27/coming-iaapa-2016-sega-announces-target-bravo-operation-ghost-lets-go-island-dream-edition/
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Hope its not some crappy mobile phone sell out and a true AM#2 SEGA Arcade game, hopefully on a new board too . Nobody makes a better racer than SEGA and I mean nobody
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This is an unconfirmed rumour so far.
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I could see it being SEGA Racing Classic with the Daytona license back in place and some new improvements as well as a new cabinet. Might not be the full-on sequel people want, but that still would be cool.
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If the Daytona Reloaded rumor turns out to be true, it sounds like a remix game. I hope it has Daytona USA 2 tracks and it also comes home.
September 1, 2000: Daytona Dreamcast is shown at the ECTS show in London, to the surprise of the crowd.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2000/09/02/ects-2000-sega-shows-dreamcast-daytona
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I could see it being SEGA Racing Classic with the Daytona license back in place and some new improvements as well as a new cabinet. Might not be the full-on sequel people want, but that still would be cool.
I doubt it's a sequel since it uses Reloaded in the the tile . I don't mind that , be lovely to see Daytona USA with cutting edge graphics running on a new board using the best tracks from Daytona USA 1,2 and 2001
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I doubt it's a sequel since it uses Reloaded in the the tile . I don't mind that , be lovely to see Daytona USA with cutting edge graphics running on a new board using the best tracks from Daytona USA 1,2 and 2001
That would be truly incredible.
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I doubt it's a sequel since it uses Reloaded in the the tile . I don't mind that , be lovely to see Daytona USA with cutting edge graphics running on a new board using the best tracks from Daytona USA 1,2 and 2001
That would be truly incredible.
... And of course it's very unlikely that it will be realized in that way, But if that were it would be ideal.
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IT'S HAPPENING! http://segabits.com/blog/2016/11/01/its-official-sega-amusements-confirms-the-all-new-daytona-for-arcades/ (http://segabits.com/blog/2016/11/01/its-official-sega-amusements-confirms-the-all-new-daytona-for-arcades/)
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Whoo hoo! Here's hoping for a console/PC release too.
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Bits story: http://segabits.com/blog/2016/11/01/sega-amusements-reveals-daytona-3-championship-usa-plus-more-details/
Press release:
You read that right, Daytona is back and just as it was first time around in the 90s, it’s set to be a game changer. Daytona USA is the pinnacle of arcade racing and now Sega is ready to bring its #1 racer screeching into the 21st century!It revolutionised the arcade scene when it was first launched in 1994, and this franchise can deservedly lay claim to bold statements such as iconic, classic and legendary.
This brand new version, Daytona 3 Championship USA, features three brand new tracks including a recreation of the newly renovated Daytona International Speedway. In addition, the original three classic courses have been remastered for the modern era. New cars and new game modes bring more for players old and new to experience.
Sega has gone all out on a cabinet design to do this global brand justice and make it stand out from the pack. The cabinet with 47” LED monitor is linkable for up to eight players and lit from top to bottom. It even has a moulded under seat engine! New game features include a live in-game camera system so you can enjoy maximum bragging rights as you overtake your friends! Also brand new to Daytona 3 is the ‘Live TV’ inspired spectator video billboard marquee with 27” display. This allows spectators to see what’s happening in the race, whether it’s a crash, a pass for position or to find out who’s winning or losing!
“This is a game changer. This is a premium game that delivers on quality, player experience and operator features that sets a very high bar for arcade video racing games. Importantly we have based it on the original game engine that gave us the amazing ‘AI’ and ‘catch up’ feeling that we all grew to love” commented Patrick Michael, Head of Local R&D.
The game also has an all-new party mode allowing operators to run special events easily. In addition, to assist engineers, there is the introduction of ‘Sega-IQ Intelligent Service Menus’; these are designed to offer prompts and troubleshooting advice when the onsite technician is maintaining the game.
“At SEGA we have always been passionate about developing the best arcade racing games, it’s part of our DNA, so to have the opportunity to work on this title that truly captures the spirit of the racing scene in Daytona is nothing short of an honour.” commented Sega’s CEO Paul Williams.
Whether players enjoyed the game back in the 90s or experience it now for the first time, they’ll find it’s easy to pick up and fun to master; with simple and quick menu options they will be straight to the starting grid. Confidence will come from the first lap and the competitive spirt will kick in as players find themselves challenging their rivals for the lead!Developed and manufactured to the highest quality, Daytona 3 Championship USA will feature in game rooms and FEC’s for years to come.
Have you got what it takes to take the flag again…. because Daytona is back!
Come and visit us at IAAPA on stand 1606 to experience Daytona 3 Championship USA for yourself. To Pre-order speak to Sega on +44 (0)208 391 8090 or +1 (847) 364-9787 or email on sales@segaarcade.com, or contact your local Authorized Sega Distributor.
DAYTONA is registered trademark of the International Speedway, Inc. and licensed to International Speedway Corporation.
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Hmm, Raw Thrills/Nintendo just announced a new Cruis'n, so it will be nice to see Daytona blow that out of the water. :) Sorry, I do love Eugene Jarvis but the Cruis'n series is like slow motion compared to any Sega racer. Overall though it's really nice to see some classic arcade titles return to the arcade.
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What are your all thoughts on it being an arcade exclusive? I am of the mindset that arcade exclusive's incentivize arcade owners to buy the machines. When they know the game will not be a digital title in 6 months time they are more likely to have the machine in their arcade.
I understand some people online are upset over the exclusivity, but my take on it is that SEGA would not be making a Daytona 3 if it were not arcade exclusive. Well known arcade games like Daytona are popular, exclusive games is a great incentive for arcade buyers. Sounds like a win/win.
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I think Arcade deserves a win once in a while. We always expect the same platforms getting stuff without the context that some type of games do well on others just fine.
For now, if the game is popular I'm sure it will be ported.
Although, I am still waiting for Border Break that is an arcade game I want to play.
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Totally fine with this being arcade only. Daytona is truly meant to be played this way anyways.
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I think it's a shame really. It's a well loved title and although I agree it should be in arcades, I think it's a missed opportunity by SEGA to bring a fully optimised title such as this to the masses.
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UPDATE: We have learned that SEGA has assembled as much of the original Daytona team as they could to develop this game, including Takenobu Mitsuyoshi on sound.
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I don't mind it being a timed arcade exclusive, but if it never comes to home platforms I'll probably only ever be able to play it a few times. Let's not forget that some people like to practice at home in order to get better at the arcade version.
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UPDATE: We have learned that SEGA has assembled as much of the original Daytona team as they could to develop this game, including Takenobu Mitsuyoshi on sound.
Well Nagoshi and Makoto Osaki will be supervising for sure anyways...
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How reliable are those sources Barry?
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90's are back guys.
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How reliable are those sources Barry?
Very good, they had been in contact with SEGA Amusements.
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Guys, there were rumors of Daytona 3 back in 2001 for Dreamcast (after Daytona USA 2001 was out in Japan)
Then later more rumors in 2002/2003 for NAOMI 2 or Sega Chihiro hardware & XBOX, none of which ever panned out.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2001/01/31/sega-gives-glimpse-at-future-of-dreamcast-software (http://www.ign.com/articles/2001/01/31/sega-gives-glimpse-at-future-of-dreamcast-software)
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https://web.archive.org/web/20050213120918/http://www.casbox.com/Stinger/Sting104.html (https://web.archive.org/web/20050213120918/http://www.casbox.com/Stinger/Sting104.html)
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https://web.archive.org/web/20050224101257/http://www.casbox.com/Stinger/Sting98.html (https://web.archive.org/web/20050224101257/http://www.casbox.com/Stinger/Sting98.html)
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But now? IT'S HAPPENING.
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Ferrari F355 Championship 2? want
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Ferrari F355 Championship 2? want
Yeah, same here.
Although, I don't know if that became Ferrari F355 Challenge 2 International Course Edition or if a full sequel was in the works.
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Except now it would be Ferrari 488 Challenge
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Chicago Cubs win the World Series, Sega making Daytona 3, the world is coming to an end. Oh My God.
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If we've died and gone to heaven, it's off to a good start.
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Dude.
*Awesome.*
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If we've died and gone to heaven, it's off to a good start.
I wouldn't get your hopes up
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Logo revealed:
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http://segabits.com/blog/2016/11/08/sega-amusements-reveals-daytona-3-championship-usa-logo-teases-more-to-come/
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I like this 90s channeling spell that Sega is pulling off.
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First look at the machine: http://segabits.com/blog/2016/11/14/get-a-first-look-at-the-daytona-3-usa-championship-arcade-machine/
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First look at the machine: http://segabits.com/blog/2016/11/14/get-a-first-look-at-the-daytona-3-usa-championship-arcade-machine/
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I wouldn't waste your time looking for the logo btw
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First in-game photos at Arcade Heroes http://arcadeheroes.com/2016/11/14/iaapa-day-1-impressions-daytona-3-cruisn-blast-walking-dead-maximum-tune-5/ (http://arcadeheroes.com/2016/11/14/iaapa-day-1-impressions-daytona-3-cruisn-blast-walking-dead-maximum-tune-5/)
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The teaser has landed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWDuQ3Xchf0
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Graphically, it looks okay. A bit weak in places, but okay overall. They've definitely managed to recapture the feel though.
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Don't know why people are getting so worked up . Its not AM#2, its not Japan and nothing more than like update Grid the Arcade game only this time Daytona USA by the same Grid team. Its a be nice Arcade game and all that and (like Grid and Rally III) but not the AM#2 magic that I think many want, hope for and are expecting
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Don't know why people are getting so worked up .
LOL, maybe it's because not everyone is a joyless, cynical, burnt-out stick in the mud. At least we can count on you to come shambling in to try and throw a ratty old wet blanket on the forum. Oh, it'll be a nice arcade game - what a disappointment?
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*It's bad because it's good*
Retard 101 by Team Andromeda.
Aren't you the one that shits on Yakuza on a daily basis and then says that Assassin's Creed is the shit? That is some grade A terrible taste.
The game is looking pretty legit for a Daytona USA and on the arcade first and foremost at that. All the steps in all the right directions. No one's settling, you're not speaking for anyone here.
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LOL, maybe it's because not everyone is a joyless, cynical, burnt-out stick in the mud. At least we can count on you to come shambling in to try and throw a ratty old wet blanket on the forum. Oh, it'll be a nice arcade game - what a disappointment?
It's not Am#2 and it's not even Sega Japan . It's not the Daytona USA most would be hoping for . You lot in the end will see who's right it be a nice game its own right like Daytona CCE but just like that game it not be the Daytona USA game people were hoping for . Just like Sega Rally 3 wasn't and isn't the Rally sequel many had hoped for .
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*It's bad because it's good*
Aren't you the one that shits on Yakuza on a daily basis and then says that Assassin's Creed is the shit? That is some grade A terrible taste.
The game is looking pretty legit for a Daytona USA and on the arcade first and foremost at that. All the steps in all the right directions. No one's settling, you're not speaking for anyone here.
I don't call Yakuza sh8t I just say its more of the same and how the Team and the game needs more time because like AS and COD the yearly sequels are making the series a bit stale (and the COD and AS teams have 3 or more team given 2+ years for their updates) .
You seem to miss the point about it being legit . Sega Rally III was legit , but it wasn't AM#3 or SEGA Japan and its showed in the gameplay it didn't feel or play like SOJ Arcade Rally game . The House of the Dead: Overkill wasn't AM#1 or SEGA Japan and its showed . They maybe good games, but fans of the series really want to the original teams and SOJ to be produced the sequels instead of being outsourced to a Western studio.
One needs to be really careful when working with classic SOJ IP and sadly its not AM#2 or Makoto Osaki-san project which most Daytona USA fans would really be hoping for
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It's not the Daytona USA most would be hoping for .
Note that TA's nickname for himself is "most". :D Actually I think most of us don't expect the same staff from 20+ years ago to still be in place, in the same positions.
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Note that TA's nickname for himself is "most". :D Actually I think most of us don't expect the same staff from 20+ years ago to still be in place, in the same positions.
I rather see the same 'studio' make the games and the AM#2 team would be the ones that I like to see make the true sequel to Daytona . Yes there's great staff in SEGA Amusements, but I would rather AM#2 make a sequel to Virtua Fighter than for it to be outsourced to SEGA Amusements to make.
It's be a nice game but so was Grid and Rally III , but it will not be the Daytona USA the SEGA die-hards would be hoping for (think Daytona USA CE) . SOJ involvement with this game is little more than IP rights, access to old source code and helping with the music.
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It's be a nice game but so was Grid and Rally III , but it will not be the Daytona USA the SEGA die-hards would be hoping for
The Sega Die-Hards, huh? I'm just about sick of you insinuating that you're more of a "real" Sega fan than anyone else. Frankly you drive the level of discourse down around here.
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The Sega Die-Hards, huh? I'm just about sick of you insinuating that you're more of a "real" Sega fan than anyone else. Frankly you drive the level of discourse down around here.
If people want to make out they're bigger fans that's up to them (and I sort of get sick of because you aren't jumping and down with joy and screaming from the roof tops for some SEGA games you can't possible be a fan or like the corp)
You will always get fans wanting the original studio to be making the game just like the Shinning Force die-hards who only want Camelot to make the games (which I'm not one of) I wouldn't say too much but even on this site you had people like Barry looking for the AM#2 logo;It's important to some fans of classic IP that the original studio is behind the game, while to others its not a big of a deal.
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Meh, if things really are as claimed by TA: not AM#2 involvement, relative if not almost zero participation of SEGA Japan etc., I cannot but agree with him (things that happens practically always) and see dampened my enthusiasm about the game.
Moreover, also just I had viewed the teaser trailer, after the initial excitement for the start of the song, the first doubts I had already arisen, not so much for the graphic quality, it seems to me, however, not outstanding, but because of the feeling of speed and related playability.
Anyway if one wants to find a title in which have put hands members of the AM#2 team, in addition to the games already available, can wait for the mobile RPG https://zero.soulreverse.jp/ (https://zero.soulreverse.jp/), sadly.
For what concerns Daytona 3, hopefully still be a good game, though developed in the west.
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8 minute cam footage via Arcade Heroes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0Agyk42QNg
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I don't care who developed it, it looks great. It has the right asthetic, birght and arcadey and the gameplay looks a faithful recreation of Daytona 1... My only concern is the lack of H-gear on the cab...
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Mmh..., actually after have seen the gameplay footage the game seems promising to me, in every way.
Having said that, I understand, however, the thought of TA, in fact even I for at least a decade I experienced the same feeling of "torment" about the gradual downsizing of the R&D departments of SEGA Japan. Now, I've come to terms with that and I try to take what good comes and enjoy it, but there is always a small woodworm in the mind.
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Mmh..., actually after have seen the gameplay footage the game seems promising to me, in every way.
People need to know that being disappointed that AM#2 are not behind the game, does not mean that makes this Daytona rubbish. SEGA Rally III was a nice game , but the purist would also hope that it was SEGA Japan behind the game, same here
If another team other than Sports Interactive was to make Football Manager then the die hard fans wouldn't like it as Edios found out to their cost . To some of the die hards it matters that the original studio is behind the game
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Having said that, I understand, however, the thought of TA, in fact even I for at least a decade I experienced the same feeling of "torment" about the gradual downsizing of the R&D departments of SEGA Japan.
AM2's "Soul Reverse" mobile/arcade project could take as much resource (maybe more) than this Daytona game. It's how it is these days
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The teaser is cool, but the footage from the event itself looks awesome. High framerate, shiny cars. I gotta disagree with those on NeoGAF who say that 90s Arcade Racer is more of a Daytona sequel than this. TBH, I find 90's Arcade Racer to be a bit more like Cruisin' and Midway racers in that it is over the top overly designed in its aesthetics. Daytona has always felt a bit more dialed back and "stark" in the sense that you see a lot of the sky and not much on the horizon aside from some buildings, hills and crowds. Daytona does have moments of crazy design elements, like Sonic carved into a cliff and the slot machine, but overall I never thought of Daytona as that over the top franchise when it comes to environment design.
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DA-Y-TO-NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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So, right now the most popular racing arcade game is the Maximum Tune series (who is on it's 8th iteration 5DX) :
http://wanganmaxi-official.com/wanganmaxi5dx/en/
And over what we've seen so far of Daytona 3, Maximum Tune 5DX has :
- A full story mode
- A "ghost" mode that lets you grind for cosmetics by fighting AI based on other people's driving styles
- A card system that lets you save up to 100 cars in a single card
- 14 stages (4 of which connect onto each other which means that on VS on certain points of the map the game would let you choose 2 junctures that leads to a different stage just like Outrun)
I'm just afraid that when people who've never even seen a Daytona cabinet in their lives before look at Daytona 3, they'll think that the game is lacking and immediately stop playing, sure Daytona has 8 FFA but most arcades definitely won't fork over money for 8 cabinets of an unknown game...
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Daytona 3 is focusing on the West, so I don't expect stuff like a story mode or a card system to be needed or even expected. Plus, the previous two games did not have such features and if anything he inclusion of them would make people complain even more. Arcade racers do not need story modes and it is not something I think most arcade goers expect.
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New video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBbLpmbd9SA
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All right! Nice to see a video where someone can actually drive.
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This game doesn't need nonsense to sell it. Just get the controls and feel. In the end it will win cuz it's Daytona USA.
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This game doesn't need nonsense to sell it. Just get the controls and feel. In the end it will win cuz it's Daytona USA.
The features of Initial D and Wangan Midnight aren't nonsense. They are great for those types of games.
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I think people have to remember that it is an arcade game, and an arcade game is designed to be played in short bursts.
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Daytona 3 is focusing on the West, so I don't expect stuff like a story mode or a card system to be needed or even expected.
I don't think its even coming to Japan . Its made for the west by the west . It be a lovely game and I'm surprised no one is talking about its lovely camera feature that's going to be great in multi player mode (and I think the Cab is only ever going to be sold in 4 and 8 player units) .
It be a nice game and I don't want to diss SEGA Amusements (they have great staff) and do hard work with little or no backing from SEGA Japan AM . I would just love a AM#2 sequel, it's not a dig but a mark of respect and how much I hold AM#2 in regard .
In just the same way if SOJ said Smilebit were making the next Football Manager game , some of the Sports Inter purists would be a little upset and disappointed with the news .
Midn you if this does well, Maybe it will inspire AM#2 to make a sequel their self's
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People need to know that being disappointed that AM#2 are not behind the game, does not mean that makes this Daytona rubbish. SEGA Rally III was a nice game , but the purist would also hope that it was SEGA Japan behind the game, same here
If another team other than Sports Interactive was to make Football Manager then the die hard fans wouldn't like it as Edios found out to their cost . To some of the die hards it matters that the original studio is behind the game
I agree about this TA, it was just that from the first teaser trailer the game seemed to me quite undertone by certain points of view beyond the development team to the work on it. Then I too am pleased that the games that I care, as far as possible, can be developed by the original team.
AM2's "Soul Reverse" mobile/arcade project could take as much resource (maybe more) than this Daytona game. It's how it is these days
Yeah, it probably is, even if it scares me with regard to a possible new Virtua Fighter, in the sense that for AM#2 might be difficult to find time to develop it, certainly not because I think would be entrusted to another studio.
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. Then I too am pleased that the games that I care, as far as possible, can be developed by the original team.
yeah Its not a dig but a mark of respect to the SEGA Japan and AM#2 . This game is going to fun and great all that , but I myself would love AM#2 to make Daytona USA for the Arcades
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I don't think its even coming to Japan . Its made for the west by the west . It be a lovely game and I'm surprised no one is talking about its lovely camera feature that's going to be great in multi player mode (and I think the Cab is only ever going to be sold in 4 and 8 player units) .
Yeah, it's not gonna coming to Japan, not next year at least.
SOJ already has planned to release Initial D Arcade Stage Zero on March 2017, so if the game is released in the same time, Daytona 3 could keep Initial D from being more successful.
It would be better if the company focused on only one franchise with the same genre and platform at a time (the same reason they used to cancel Saturn's Eternal Champions 3 which they think it could keep Virtua Fighter from being more successful).
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Yeah, it's not gonna coming to Japan, not next year at least.
SOJ already has planned to release Initial D Arcade Stage Zero on March 2017, so if the game is released in the same time, Daytona 3 could keep Initial D from being more successful.
It would be better if the company focused on only one franchise with the same genre and platform at a time (the same reason they used to cancel Saturn's Eternal Champions 3 which they think it could keep Virtua Fighter from being more successful).
This.
And furthermore, IDAS is already very heavily struggling against Maximum Tune, and they've already announced Maximum Tune 5DX+ (http://wanganmaxi-official.com/wanganmaxi5dxplus/) (which is introducing Hondas to the series so there's a lot of hype behind this game) so SEGA really can't afford another competition right now.
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I expect it to be just another game like the one in 2001 with slightly improved graphics. Could be wrong though.
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IAAPA 2016 Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuqadMgYI80
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Sega has released free software upgrade for its award-winning video racing game Daytona Championship USA.
Paul Williams, CEO at Sega says “We want all our customers to have this important software upgrade, so we are offering it completely Free of charge. Some players even going as far to say, ‘it’s a whole new game compared to last IAAPA, this Daytona is their favourite arcade racing game’. This software upgrade marks our continued commitment to keeping Daytona as the number one driver on location.”
Link : http://www.segaarcade.com/news/free-software-upgrade-for-daytona-championship-usa.html