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Berto:
SEGA Teases Major Announcement at The Game Awards
--- Quote ---Gaming content creators like Curiousjoi shared an invitation they received from Sega, which had the phrase "New Era, New Energy" on it. It also encouraged the recipients and their followers to tune in live at The Game Awards on December 7.
Sega's invitation was pretty vague, but many fans had their own theories as to what the announcement might be. Some believe that Sega will reveal its Super Game for the first time. Others think it might be ...
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Article : https://gamerant.com/sega-game-awards-2023-announcement/
Berto:
OVGA Podcast Episode 04: The Art of Boris Vallejo & Julie Bell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jI8SKZdPYI
--- Quote ---Join us in a discussion about two very noteworthy artists within the niche of original video game artwork!
Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell have established themselves firmly within this hobby over the course of many years.
Their talent is highlighted by our hosts in this episode! Enjoy!
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Link : https://www.originalvideogameart.com
Mystic Monkey:
--- Quote from: Berto on December 04, 2023, 08:35:18 pm ---That could happen back then when Nintendo and SEGA was joining forces to make Sonic and Mario game crossover (which who knows later could then became SEGA and Nintendo crossover too) but SEGA was the one who insisted that the crossover is limited to olympic series.
Sumo Digital even considered making Mario a guest star in Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing exclusively on the Wii version, and while Nintendo was okay with it, SEGA rejected the idea as they did not want to "cross contaminate with the Mario & Sonic series.
That's why it's really a big surprise when Sonic came to Super Smash Bros since some fans thought that SEGA wouldn't allow it.
Turned out because Sonic was planned to be included in Super Smash Bros before the Olympic crossover deal.
During the GameCube development for Smash Bros., Yuji Naka really wanted to get Sonic into that game, but it was just too late in the development process and couldn’t get it in for GameCube, but they did move forward and put Sonic in for the Wii version.”
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I wonder why Sega just want it to be an Olympic thing? My guess by "cross contaminate", they mean they didn't want Sonic and Mario getting too chummy with one another that they're regarded a shared continuity, which I understand. But I'm glad Smash Bros. was the exception and I would love to see it go far as Sega All-Stars vs Nintendo Smash Bros.
--- Quote from: Berto on December 04, 2023, 08:35:18 pm ---You must rarely went to arcade centres back then.
Virtua Fighter was such a big hit in arcade.
It was the first 3D Fighting game and when it came out the 3D graphic alone really stood out compared to the other arcade games at that time.
While it might be the case that in console there are other fighting games more popular since the ports were coming late that was not the case in arcade centre.
It's not flux, VF series really were the pioneer in arcades.
Virtua Fighter came before Tekken and Soul Blade.
Virtua Fighter 2 came before Tekken 2 and Dead or Alive.
Virtua Fighter 3 came before Tekken 3 and Soul Calibur.
You can never forget your first love.
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I told you what arcades were like in UK, at least the ones I've visited. Mostly just slot machines and coin pushers. Always disappointed.
--- Quote from: Berto on December 04, 2023, 08:35:18 pm ---It's the other way around, the real name was Mega Drive and only in North America the name was changed to "Genesis".
Former Sega CEO David Rosen said he insisted on the name as he disliked "Mega Drive" and wanted to represent "a new beginning" for Sega.
Remember that while Master System could be considered a success in Europe and South America, it was not the case for North America. That's why they want the 16-bit console to be the new beginning.
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I see... do you think keeping the name Mega Drive may had effected sales at the time?
Berto:
--- Quote from: Mystic Monkey on December 05, 2023, 09:16:11 pm ---I wonder why Sega just want it to be an Olympic thing? My guess by "cross contaminate", they mean they didn't want Sonic and Mario getting too chummy with one another that they're regarded a shared continuity, which I understand. But I'm glad Smash Bros. was the exception and I would love to see it go far as Sega All-Stars vs Nintendo Smash Bros.
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It was Yuji Naka's idea.
Sonic & Mario at the Olympic Games was released a year after Yuji Naka left SEGA, but he claims the idea was all his.
SEGA was given the license to produce a video game based on the 2008 Summer Olympics in 2006.
At the International Olympic Committee, they expressed their intention to promote a sporting spirit to children so that's why Naka came up with the idea to include kid friendly-mascot characters.
"It was actually my idea," he told a Eurogamer Expo 2010 audience, "and I was the one who approached Nintendo about it.
"I thought it would be fascinating to see the two heroes play together or play against each other, so that was exactly what I wanted.
"So I don't feel anything funny about that at all," he added.
Source : https://www.eurogamer.net/yuji-naka-sonic-and-mario-was-my-idea
--- Quote from: Mystic Monkey on December 05, 2023, 09:16:11 pm ---I told you what arcades were like in UK, at least the ones I've visited. Mostly just slot machines and coin pushers. Always disappointed.
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Even back then? I thought what you told was things that has just recently happened.
Man, UK is sure missing the golden gaming of arcade then.
Arcade was the peak of gaming since back then gaming consoles still struggle to make their games could be as good as arcade.
That's why "arcade-perfect port" term exist.
--- Quote from: Mystic Monkey on December 05, 2023, 09:16:11 pm ---I see... do you think keeping the name Mega Drive may had effected sales at the time?
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I'm not sure.
Most people here mentioned "Mega Drive" or "Genesis" as "SEGA" anyway (just like they mentioned "NES" as "Nintendo") but US gamers metioned Genesis as Genesis so at least the Genesis name itself really catchy to be mentioned.
Mystic Monkey:
--- Quote from: Berto on December 06, 2023, 09:24:45 pm ---It was Yuji Naka's idea.
Sonic & Mario at the Olympic Games was released a year after Yuji Naka left SEGA, but he claims the idea was all his.
SEGA was given the license to produce a video game based on the 2008 Summer Olympics in 2006.
At the International Olympic Committee, they expressed their intention to promote a sporting spirit to children so that's why Naka came up with the idea to include kid friendly-mascot characters.
"It was actually my idea," he told a Eurogamer Expo 2010 audience, "and I was the one who approached Nintendo about it.
"I thought it would be fascinating to see the two heroes play together or play against each other, so that was exactly what I wanted.
"So I don't feel anything funny about that at all," he added.
Source : https://www.eurogamer.net/yuji-naka-sonic-and-mario-was-my-idea
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The Mairo & Sonic Olympic games I get. The Olympics are supposed to be about countries from across the world of different politics and beliefs, coming together in sporting events out of trust and unity. Sonic and Mario were once rival mascots so having them in the Olympics could be for Sega and Mairo to give them impression that theres no more hostility, only handshakes and good sports.
Which is all well and good, but I still think in-lore character wise, the two would be more interesting as frienemies than just written to just so happen to be on friendly, good terms.
--- Quote from: Berto on December 06, 2023, 09:24:45 pm ---Even back then? I thought what you told was things that has just recently happened.
Man, UK is sure missing the golden gaming of arcade then.
Arcade was the peak of gaming since back then gaming consoles still struggle to make their games could be as good as arcade.
That's why "arcade-perfect port" term exist.
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I'm sure there are god and quality arcades in Britain that have the classic games.... I just never come across them. The arcades I usually find were more like exetremely low-budget casinos, with a few arcade games tucked at the back so not to distract customers from the gambling machines.
--- Quote from: Berto on December 06, 2023, 09:24:45 pm ---I'm not sure.
Most people here mentioned "Mega Drive" or "Genesis" as "SEGA" anyway (just like they mentioned "NES" as "Nintendo") but US gamers metioned Genesis as Genesis so at least the Genesis name itself really catchy to be mentioned.
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I guess so. Though would be nice if we all had a single name to be united over.
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