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Title: Toshiba!
Post by: 3raser on March 22, 2013, 04:38:16 am
There are rumors that Toshiba wants to buy, merge, or have an alliance with Sega. This could be a very good thing because Sony is competing with Toshiba. Check out these links:

http://nerdforum.org/topic/2771-sega/#entry45631

http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?464551-Toshiba-merging-with-sega

http://www.animenation.net/forums/blog.php?b=2210

http://www.amazon.com/think-release-console-several-years/forum/Fx1E3A6UPH5029K/Tx3562M6AQGEZR4/1?asin=B000FRU0NU

What do you all think of this amazing idea?

Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: crackdude on March 22, 2013, 01:23:27 pm
I think it's a risky venture. But most relevantly, it does not mean at all that Sega will come back to gaming consoles. Calm down semmie.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: 3raser on March 22, 2013, 01:34:42 pm
Who/what is "semmie"? I'm just wondering about people's opinions. I'm not saying they will merge. I am also not saying they will not. I did not mention new consoles, but I guess those comments are welcome too. It was just a cool thought that I found on these links.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: Randroid on March 22, 2013, 01:48:10 pm
Very very very interesting. I think it fits.

The two businesses (Toshiba, Sega-Sammy) have minimal overlap in products so it would be a more harmonious merger than an established Video game company taking over (like Nintendo/MS/Sony). Also, I think Toshiba would compliment Sega more than a western tech company like Apple, as they would enhance more of Sega's Japanese footing which I believe is stronger than their western.

If they were to merge and be successful, the fact that this merger may come about from a partnership to create a new disc media would be incredible poetic justice to Sony, which pushed Sega out practically on the basis of their new disc media of the times.

From a personal standpoint, I would love this news. Toshiba makes quality products. There are two Toshiba laptops in my home at the moment and they have a minimalist design that I love. Toshiba has a great reputation in Japan and would/could be the brand to topple Sony which is struggling with consumer confidence at the moment.

While I fully agree that a Sega console it out of the question, a Toshiba-Sega console would make perfect sense provided that the new media was in place and two companies did in fact merge. I can only dream of a console collaboration between the two.

I'll definitely be keeping an ear to the ground on this Orbi.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: semmie on March 22, 2013, 02:15:27 pm
Who/what is "semmie"? I'm just wondering about people's opinions. I'm not saying they will merge. I am also not saying they will not. I did not mention new consoles, but I guess those comments are welcome too. It was just a cool thought that I found on these links.

im semmie.

 i dont know what i can give for opinion about toshiba merging with sega. i would like it if it would mean that there will be a sega console with  firm base to the fans.
but if its toshiba merging with seg just to make games which is illogical anyways then i think its allready bad enough having sega sammy. the more people merge with sega the more annoying evaluations sega will have with both toshba and sammy.

there can only one captain.
and even tho we claim to be democratic there is a deviding nation based on opinions.

i think in these console matters a dictatorship is better.( only in the console world)
but i do appreciate that sega sammy came into play to help sega. but regardless that sega allready has sammy to deal with in the evaluations. i dont know how thats gonna be if toshiba comes.

it would be nice tho if

toshiba taking care of hardware
sega the games
and sammy the do and investments

in this case a trinity works well

but like i said i dont think its gonna be that easy.  thx fr the rumor it brings wishfull thinking alive :)
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: crackdude on March 22, 2013, 07:38:02 pm
Who/what is "semmie"? I'm just wondering about people's opinions. I'm not saying they will merge. I am also not saying they will not. I did not mention new consoles, but I guess those comments are welcome too. It was just a cool thought that I found on these links.
I am so sorry you thought I was being grumpy at you! As you may have noticed, semmie is a user here with a rather "optimistic" view of Sega's alleged hardware ambitions.

I am not so sure if a Toshiba-Sega merge would be a good thing. It would probably result in the Sega brand slowly dying away.
A cool hypothesis tho: imagine Toshiba used the Sega brand as a label for the gaming range of their products. So you'd have the Toshiba gaming laptops being called the Sega laptops, for example. Sega branded gaming TVs.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: 3raser on March 22, 2013, 10:53:03 pm
I am so sorry you thought I was being grumpy at you! As you may have noticed, semmie is a user here with a rather "optimistic" view of Sega's alleged hardware ambitions.

I am not so sure if a Toshiba-Sega merge would be a good thing. It would probably result in the Sega brand slowly dying away.
A cool hypothesis tho: imagine Toshiba used the Sega brand as a label for the gaming range of their products. So you'd have the Toshiba gaming laptops being called the Sega laptops, for example. Sega branded gaming TVs.

I'm sorry if I came off as being rude to you earlier. I did not have much sleep at the time lol. What you said was not a bad idea. A lot of Sega fans might be disappointed without a new console, but that's not really what I had in mind at first. I just thought that it would be easier for both companies, since they both deal in electronics. Also the fact that Toshiba kind of competes with Sony.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: Centrale on March 22, 2013, 11:03:20 pm
I don't even understand why this is a topic of conversation.  There's no kernel of truth to this, no statement from any site, it's just a discussion topic on a few forums from what I can see.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: 3raser on March 22, 2013, 11:28:00 pm
I don't even understand why this is a topic of conversation.  There's no kernel of truth to this, no statement from any site, it's just a discussion topic on a few forums from what I can see.

Yes. That's why I claimed that they were rumors. It is just an idea that I read on these forums that I posted. I never saw anything on news websites. It's just a speculation. I simply wanted an opinion of what people thought about it, not to say that it would definately happen, but I thought it was a great idea. Whoever came up with it is a genius!
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: SEGA RedWolf on March 23, 2013, 01:55:29 am
This could be good for Toshiba if they are wanting a piece of that arcade/pachinko market.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: pcm92 on March 23, 2013, 12:54:29 pm
its a good idea, but the amazon link is not talking about toshiba. it is talking about a new console...
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: 3raser on March 23, 2013, 04:39:35 pm
its a good idea, but the amazon link is not talking about toshiba. it is talking about a new console...

It is, but if you keep reading it talks about other companies that might buy Sega. It never mentions Toshiba, but the idea of including the amazon link was that it included the theory of a major company buying or merging with Sega.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: pcm92 on March 23, 2013, 08:30:23 pm
It is, but if you keep reading it talks about other companies that might buy Sega. It never mentions Toshiba, but the idea of including the amazon link was that it included the theory of a major company buying or merging with Sega.

yeah ok
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: pcm92 on March 24, 2013, 04:20:39 pm
im not really that much of a sega fan to tell you the truth. if they use an idea like this than i might be. i just think they need to start making consoles again because right now they make bad games for companies that they should be compeeting with
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: 3raser on March 24, 2013, 05:08:56 pm
im not really that much of a sega fan to tell you the truth. if they use an idea like this than i might be. i just think they need to start making consoles again because right now they make bad games for companies that they should be compeeting with

A lot of people miss the Sega console era, but they have made a lot of good games as a third party system. Skies of Arcadia, Sonic Generations, Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection, The Yakuza Series. There are many more to come. I guarantee that if they are bought by Toshiba, then they will probably make even better games. A new console would be fine, but they should definately consider waiting a while because they would be crushed if they released one now.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: Aki-at on March 24, 2013, 05:24:04 pm
Another one of these?

One of the links that support this claim links back to Model 4, which is a site managed by Zach Morris, who has yet to be correct in any of his "SEGA is going to make a console claim!" so that source of information is already disputed.

Then all you have is ramblings on random forums of people discussing this idea, no weight behind the idea at all. Toshiba themselves have nothing to gain competing with Sony, Microsoft AND Nintendo, nor will they be brute muscling their way this late.

So no it will not happen.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: 3raser on March 24, 2013, 05:35:15 pm
Another one of these?

One of the links that support this claim links back to Model 4, which is a site managed by Zach Morris, who has yet to be correct in any of his "SEGA is going to make a console claim!" so that source of information is already disputed.

Then all you have is ramblings on random forums of people discussing this idea, no weight behind the idea at all. Toshiba themselves have nothing to gain competing with Sony, Microsoft AND Nintendo, nor will they be brute muscling their way this late.

So no it will not happen.

Relax. Take a deep breath. I'm not saying it will happen. I'm not saying it will not happen. I'm just saying that it's a creative idea that Sega should maybe consider in the future. You are right when you say that these are only forums, but a lot of Sega fans support this idea. The original intention of this thread was not a console discussion. An electronics company that is linked to Japan and the United States would be a great route to take. I'm not saying they should do this right away. I'm saying that if they wait until they start making better games, then maybe an electronics company would be willing to buy them. If that's the case, then they could make even better games as a third party company.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: Aki-at on March 24, 2013, 08:47:38 pm
You are really just basing this on your own assumption no? What stops Sony from purchasing SEGA? Nintendo? Microsoft? Apple? It really just comes to your average run of the mill "I think X should purchase SEGA and release a new console/return them to their former glory!"

SEGA fans supporting an idea does not make it a viable platform or else we would have Shenmue 3, Skies of Arcadia 2 and a whole host of other titles. Then we come onto SEGA's "quality" issue, they released close to 4 titles that would be consider GOTY last year, 7 if you really enjoyed all their output. So why the need to merge with Toshiba?
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: 3raser on March 24, 2013, 08:53:06 pm
You are really just basing this on your own assumption no? What stops Sony from purchasing SEGA? Nintendo? Microsoft? Apple? It really just comes to your average run of the mill "I think X should purchase SEGA and release a new console/return them to their former glory!"

SEGA fans supporting an idea does not make it a viable platform or else we would have Shenmue 3, Skies of Arcadia 2 and a whole host of other titles. Then we come onto SEGA's "quality" issue, they released close to 4 titles that would be consider GOTY last year, 7 if you really enjoyed all their output. So why the need to merge with Toshiba?

Please stop being so hostile. You are taking this far too seriously. I just said that I do not know if it will happen. I was just saying that it might be a good idea. That's all. I also said before that I was not speaking of a new console. You are the one that is making an assumption.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: Randroid on March 25, 2013, 01:49:32 am
I know this is an incredibly small possibility, but now that the idea is in my head, a Toshiba-Sega merger for the purpose of re-entering the home console market has now become my hope.

Sega/Sammy won't do it on their own. They'll need the backing of another tech company and Toshiba has almost no overlap. It's really a perfect fit. Toshiba has no footprint in the gaming world so all of the gaming centric products would be sega branded.

Oh man, imagine the possibilities:

I mean we all flipped for the "Sega" laptops that were offered recently. That could be a regular gaming laptop series by Toshiba. Especially since Sega has carved out a PC gaming presence with their hold over RTS games. Want a tablet? Toshiba makes those. Get their Sega Version!

The cross promotion possibilities match perfectly.

And as for the console, does anyone have confidence in a new Sega console? Probably not, but would a Toshiba-Sega console be dismissed as easily anywhere? I think not. This could very well be the way we get all of those Sega games we love back to a single platform developed for those games.

As far as partners go, Toshiba is the sole one out there that is large enough, powerful enough, respected enough, and japanese enough to merge without having its own brand overshadow Sega.

Sega please, MAKE IT HAPPEN!



Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: Barry the Nomad on March 25, 2013, 10:08:22 am
I don't think Aki is being hostile in the slightest. And he can't be blamed for taking this seriously. What other way can we take speculation like this? I'd hate for people to not take speculation seriously, otherwise we'd all be semmie.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: TJKitsune on March 25, 2013, 10:52:07 am
I wouldn't agree to a merger.  Partnership, as what they've done with the laptops, absolutely.  I'll entertain this thought a little more...

With the branded laptops, can you imagine the resources SEGA would have for their Arcade division?  Upgraded models of RingWide to compete with TAITO's NESiCA network service?  Possibly worldwide releases of SEGA's special edition gaming laptops to help push their own service of games, much like Sega used to have of their online games service they had for awhile before it was hacked and brought down?  Toshiba would have server farms..  I wouldn't see how they couldn't let SEGA buy up some to house their network on and further establish the possibilities of a worldwide SEGA network to rival NESiCA.

As for home consoles, I doubt Toshiba would venture into something outside of TVs, BluRay Players, camcorders, and PCs.  IF they were to even think about something like that, it would be more akin to a home entertainment computer that would have a BluRay drive and access to SEGA's Online service, that would have a large backlog of all their games they currently have available on Steam with a SEGA dedicated service.  Would be killer if they then threw on online games, such as VF5:FS.  However, they've already brought that game to the current home consoles, so it would need to be more exclusive and newer games.

Honestly, I'd love for SEGA to bring back their dedicated online SEGA service in some form or another.  Classic and newer SEGA games, available for a small, monthly/yearly fee.  Free updates/patches.  Possibly include their mobile games as well and special incentives for members, such as give-aways, or the ability to purchase SEGA branded merchandise.

But why put such effort into that when SEGA also has quite a good footing with Steam?  So, with that in mind, it pretty much negates any of my thoughts. Outside of the special edition laptops, and the possibility of leveraging Toshiba's PC resources for their arcades, there's not much else there.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: crackdude on March 25, 2013, 12:22:43 pm
I just had a bombastic thought.

You guys know all about the "steam-cube" right? How about a Sega thing like that. Toshiba made, Sega branded living room gaming PC.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: 3raser on March 25, 2013, 03:08:00 pm
I just had a bombastic thought.

You guys know all about the "steam-cube" right? How about a Sega thing like that. Toshiba made, Sega branded living room gaming PC.

Nice idea, but you should be careful. Acording to these guys you have to have proof. Otherwise it's offensive just because it's a new idea. They are only bumping the topic to the top of the page each time they post something negative. I have never seen anyone offended over a Sonic Adventure 3 topic, but we all know that's not going to happen. So why can there not be a rumor about this? I have no clue.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: crackdude on March 26, 2013, 04:50:04 am
You're right! So sorry guize! was just jk k? jk lol jk jk

Seriously, we take console talk around here kinda serious because a while back there was some drama with some internet guy that made a Sega Ringedge hoax and used our usernames in his forums and things like that. Adding to that semmie's constant pressure of a new console, and it's easy to guess why most around here are kinda pissed at the subject.

I still believe a new Sega with Shenmue 3 and SA3 as launch titles wink wink
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: 3raser on March 26, 2013, 06:00:16 pm
I am not sure why everyone thinks I am talking about a Sega console. I am simply speaking of Toshiba buying Sega. Nothing more.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: Centrale on March 27, 2013, 12:22:10 am
I was thinking of other companies Sega could join forces with, and I think the obvious choice would be French's, the mustard manufacturer.  They're diversified enough to have several other sauces and even mayonnaise-based condiments.  And forget about just the race to control the living room entertainment center -- a Sega/French's console could also take over the kitchen and dining room!  And how about if your achievements in a game not only added to an abstract score or imaginary trophy case -- how about if you got a hot sandwich from your console?
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: 3raser on March 27, 2013, 12:27:48 am
I was thinking of other companies Sega could join forces with, and I think the obvious choice would be French's, the mustard manufacturer.  They're diversified enough to have several other sauces and even mayonnaise-based condiments.  And forget about just the race to control the living room entertainment center -- a Sega/French's console could also take over the kitchen and dining room!  And how about if your achievements in a game not only added to an abstract score or imaginary trophy case -- how about if you got a hot sandwich from your console?

Thanks for bumping the topic to the top of the page again.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: Mengels7 on March 27, 2013, 02:21:27 am
Dammit now I'm going to have dreams about Toshiba purchasing Sega and funding a new console to come out.  Do you know how unbelievably cool that would be?  Too freaking cool.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: Nameless 24 on March 27, 2013, 06:35:56 am
What other way can we take speculation like this? I'd hate for people to not take speculation seriously, otherwise we'd all be semmie.

In this case I don't think it's such a bad thing, I mean in terms of not taking rumours seriously.

Toshiba...that's a name I haven't heard in awhile...what are their finances like since I haven't seen a TV from them in about 7 years. D:
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: pcm92 on March 27, 2013, 11:32:56 am
You are really just basing this on your own assumption no? What stops Sony from purchasing SEGA? Nintendo? Microsoft? Apple? It really just comes to your average run of the mill "I think X should purchase SEGA and release a new console/return them to their former glory!"

SEGA fans supporting an idea does not make it a viable platform or else we would have Shenmue 3, Skies of Arcadia 2 and a whole host of other titles. Then we come onto SEGA's "quality" issue, they released close to 4 titles that would be consider GOTY last year, 7 if you really enjoyed all their output. So why the need to merge with Toshiba?

any other company would not be as good for sega. toshiba would help out alot because they have links to japan and the us just like sega.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: 3raser on March 27, 2013, 04:18:02 pm
In this case I don't think it's such a bad thing, I mean in terms of not taking rumours seriously.

Toshiba...that's a name I haven't heard in awhile...what are their finances like since I haven't seen a TV from them in about 7 years. D:

Their finances are almost better than Sony and Nintendo's combined.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: pcm92 on March 28, 2013, 10:01:20 am
Their finances are almost better than Sony and Nintendo's combined.

nat really. they are better than both but not combined. sony has alot more than nintendo. you were right when you said that sony was competing with toshiba though.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: 3raser on March 28, 2013, 03:10:33 pm
nat really. they are better than both but not combined. sony has alot more than nintendo. you were right when you said that sony was competing with toshiba though.

True. I did say ALMOST. Not exactly. My point is that Toshiba has more money than Sony. They also have more money than Nintendo. If they were going to compete with the two, then they would only have to worry about Microsoft, but I'm not really speaking about a console. I'm speaking about Toshiba buying Sega to make PCs or maybe even publish games with them. It just sounded like a good idea to me.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: 3raser on March 30, 2013, 02:14:46 pm
Bump
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: pcm92 on March 30, 2013, 02:19:14 pm
wat more can be sed? u won the argyumint
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: 3raser on March 30, 2013, 02:20:31 pm
wat more can be sed? u won the argyumint

*What
*said
*argument
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: 3raser on March 30, 2013, 02:21:17 pm
wat more can be sed? u won the argyumint

A lot more can be said, but the reason I bumped it was because more people need to vote.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: semmie on March 30, 2013, 03:39:17 pm
eraser i hope u realise that some of us here r not into eey sega console unfortunate there is to much deviation in the sega base such as sonic fans. id like this idea with freaking toshiba. but talking talking talking. but u see dear eraser we have talkes like this ever since dc stopped fabricating. and sega basically skipped a generation. and i cant tell u it might be the second generation skipping again

i hate it yeah allright?

but what ye gonna do
what ye wanna do?

nothing bro nothing bro
just to much bitch asses in the sega industry. i love sega ye know. and many games r the real deal. but when talking about taking initiative? well sega lost that long time ago

i greatly hope that all that i say bullshit( well it probably is the way i say it)
but i mean i hope u get the message.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: 3raser on March 30, 2013, 04:19:35 pm
eraser i hope u realise that some of us here r not into eey sega console unfortunate there is to much deviation in the sega base such as sonic fans. id like this idea with freaking toshiba. but talking talking talking. but u see dear eraser we have talkes like this ever since dc stopped fabricating. and sega basically skipped a generation. and i cant tell u it might be the second generation skipping again

i hate it yeah allright?

but what ye gonna do
what ye wanna do?

nothing bro nothing bro
just to much bitch asses in the sega industry. i love sega ye know. and many games r the real deal. but when talking about taking initiative? well sega lost that long time ago

i greatly hope that all that i say bullshit( well it probably is the way i say it)
but i mean i hope u get the message.

I'm not saying that there should be a new console. All I wanted for Toshiba to do is to make Sega sponsored laptops. If Toshiba buys Sega, then they can make better games. This thread is NOT a console discussion. At least it was not supposed to be. If you think Toshiba might buy Sega to make consoles, then you can comment that. It was just not intended as a console discussion whatsoever. I do not know why so many people thought it was.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: semmie on March 31, 2013, 05:11:14 pm
I'm not saying that there should be a new console. All I wanted for Toshiba to do is to make Sega sponsored laptops. If Toshiba buys Sega, then they can make better games. This thread is NOT a console discussion. At least it was not supposed to be. If you think Toshiba might buy Sega to make consoles, then you can comment that. It was just not intended as a console discussion whatsoever. I do not know why so many people thought it was.

lol toshiba makes better games? i never heard of that..
whatta ya expect. sega is a console and the sega of now is a semi software company that might become a console again.

sega sponsored laptops?
well uhm there are sega note pc,s atm. nothing new there

pls dont go overhyped dude

lemme give u some logic


toshiba : hardware
sega nowadays : software

sega en toshiba is  console
sega en toshiba is pc

those are possibilitys in your starting thread. and if u dont understand why we talk about that. then u should v been more clear. cause it is misguiding

u misguided us
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: crackdude on March 31, 2013, 06:18:54 pm
u misguided us
Oh dear.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: 3raser on March 31, 2013, 07:38:54 pm
lol toshiba makes better games? i never heard of that..
whatta ya expect. sega is a console and the sega of now is a semi software company that might become a console again.

sega sponsored laptops?
well uhm there are sega note pc,s atm. nothing new there

pls dont go overhyped dude

lemme give u some logic


toshiba : hardware
sega nowadays : software

sega en toshiba is  console
sega en toshiba is pc

those are possibilitys in your starting thread. and if u dont understand why we talk about that. then u should v been more clear. cause it is misguiding

u misguided us

I mentioned before that this thread was not originally intended for console discussion. I also said those comments are welcome too. That means I just wanted to know your opinion of Toshiba buying or merging with Sega. I had no idea that people would mention a console, but it's ok because if Toshiba buys or merges with Sega, then it is possible. Toshiba is competing with Sony. Why not? As long as you keep the topic about Toshiba and Sega, then that is what the thread is for.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: Randroid on April 02, 2013, 03:08:15 am
I mentioned before that this thread was not originally intended for console discussion. I also said those comments are welcome too. That means I just wanted to know your opinion of Toshiba buying or merging with Sega. I had no idea that people would mention a console, but it's ok because if Toshiba buys or merges with Sega, then it is possible. Toshiba is competing with Sony. Why not? As long as you keep the topic about Toshiba and Sega, then that is what the thread is for.

It's happening!

Toshiba noticed this thread and decided to release their new console. Day one buy for me.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/848JwQ1WHZo
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: DJaw on April 02, 2013, 04:12:53 am
toshiba can suckk big weener
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: 3raser on April 02, 2013, 01:33:13 pm
It's happening!

Toshiba noticed this thread and decided to release their new console. Day one buy for me.

At least it was made by their website, but that was an April Fools joke. I'm not sure if you realized it, but I thought you supported this whole Toshiba-Sega idea. Toshiba is a very good electronics company. Ever since I started this thread, people have hated Toshiba. The entire company of Toshiba is highly capable of releasing video game consoles in the future. I am not sure why so many people are against Toshiba buying Sega. Toshiba is largely Japan and U.S. based. Sega is as well. It matches perfectly.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: Randroid on April 02, 2013, 05:33:56 pm
Haha, yeah I know it was a joke. The 12 core processors and 5 HDMI ports right at the beginning give it away.

I thought it would be funny to post it here since there's a mini flame war going on about a Sega-Toshiba console.

Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: Randroid on April 02, 2013, 05:37:12 pm
At least it was made by their website, but that was an April Fools joke. I'm not sure if you realized it, but I thought you supported this whole Toshiba-Sega idea. Toshiba is a very good electronics company. Ever since I started this thread, people have hated Toshiba. The entire company of Toshiba is highly capable of releasing video game consoles in the future. I am not sure why so many people are against Toshiba buying Sega. Toshiba is largely Japan and U.S. based. Sega is as well. It matches perfectly.

I'll state again. I am all for a Toshiba-Sega merger. I love both companies for their respective products and can't see how they would conflict in any way. Also, Toshiba can compete in the Japanese console market, so it would make sense for them to do so if they merge with an established video game hardware maker (sega).
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: Barry the Nomad on April 02, 2013, 05:39:10 pm
Every time I see this thread title, I think of NiGHTS saying: Aptiva!
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: 3raser on April 02, 2013, 11:24:55 pm
I'll state again. I am all for a Toshiba-Sega merger. I love both companies for their respective products and can't see how they would conflict in any way. Also, Toshiba can compete in the Japanese console market, so it would make sense for them to do so if they merge with an established video game hardware maker (sega).

Ok. I was just making sure that you supported the idea all along. I appreciate the humor, but I am seriously thinking that it might happen one day. I'm glad the Toshiba console rumors have spread so much that Toshiba even thought about it. Both Sega and Toshiba could really make a big profit off of that. Still, they should probably start with something light first like Sega sponsored merchandise for Toshiba's profit, until Sega decides to join them into one large company.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: pcm92 on November 01, 2015, 01:31:30 am
SEGA fans supporting an idea does not make it a viable platform or else we would have Shenmue 3, Skies of Arcadia 2 and a whole host of other titles.
Guess what. We will now have a Shenmue III and a Skies of Arcadia 2, so I guess anything is possible at this point. I know Barry, this topic is very old indeed. I just found it amusing that someone posted the impossibilities of the two games in this thread and now they are - in fact - being released.

Toshiba & SEGA console 2019!
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: Sharky on November 01, 2015, 08:03:06 am
Guess what. We will now have a Shenmue III and a Skies of Arcadia 2, so I guess anything is possible at this point. I know Barry, this topic is very old indeed. I just found it amusing that someone posted the impossibilities of the two games in this thread and now they are - in fact - being released.

Toshiba & SEGA console 2019!

In what world is Skies of Arcadia 2 coming out?
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: Barry the Nomad on November 01, 2015, 09:07:00 am
First off, its not fair to call out a 2013 post from Aki saying Shenmue 3 was a pipe dream, because at that time it totally was. Also, Skies of Arcadia 2? What SEGA news sites are you reading?
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: EnternalHope on November 01, 2015, 12:07:13 pm
First off, its not fair to call out a 2013 post from Aki saying Shenmue 3 was a pipe dream, because at that time it totally was. Also, Skies of Arcadia 2? What SEGA news sites are you reading?


Once SEGA Holdings,Ltd is open for public trading, it can and will likely merge with Toshiba. Selling its remaining capital of $3 billion(50% of Sega Sammy's Stock) to them.


It would not surprise me if that occurs early in 2016.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: pcm92 on November 01, 2015, 01:17:00 pm
Somehow mixed it up with Dead Island.  :P Not sure about Skies because I've never played it. I guess it could be released too. Anything is possible at this point. Back to Toshiba, I was previously wrong in a different thread. I think it would be a huge idea!

2019!
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: Sharky on November 01, 2015, 02:09:23 pm

Once SEGA Holdings,Ltd is open for public trading, it can and will likely merge with Toshiba. Selling its remaining capital of $3 billion(50% of Sega Sammy's Stock) to them.


It would not surprise me if that occurs early in 2016.

Why would you even jump to that conclusion?
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: EnternalHope on November 01, 2015, 02:34:59 pm
Why would you even jump to that conclusion?


SEGA Holdings,Ltd is now the official mothership and parent company of Sega and Sammy.
http://sega.co.jp/


https://trademarks.justia.com/790/40/sega-sammy-79040246.html




NEW REPRESENTATIVE AT IB RECEIVED
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[/size]What this means is that SEGASammy's International Registration will be allowed to expire in December 2016, without renewal and that Holdings ownership is no longer under that name or the group.[/color]
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Since Sega Sammy's IR has been cancelled, SEGA Holdings,Ltd will exhume complete control over the entire company once it begins public trading. And since SegaSammy is no longer a merger group, SEGA Holdings,Ltd can sell its capital to whoever they please once they have a NIKKEI symbol and S&P 500 stock symbol.[/font][/color]


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[/size]The strongest candidate for a merger is Toshiba Corporation. Which makes sense seeing how Toshiba time and time again TRIED to purchase Sega from CSK Enterprises in 1997 and again in 2000(in which each time, it's Chairman Isao Okawa flat out refused.)[/color]
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[/size]Toshiba is a company 5X times the size of Sony and has WAY more money,assets,cash flow and most important, equity than Sony. About $170 billion worth.[/color]
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Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: crackdude on November 01, 2015, 03:38:00 pm
Source for that second paragraph please
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: Sharky on November 01, 2015, 03:42:29 pm
Sounds like a lot of guess work at play here.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: Randroid on November 01, 2015, 04:00:19 pm
I agree that it's not a certainty in any way, but I'm 100% for it if it happens. Sega needs an electronics hardware partner. That is the absolute only hope for a new console of any type to happen.

Sega's good, but no where near as good as when they were deving for their own platform.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: EnternalHope on November 01, 2015, 04:01:26 pm
Source for that second paragraph please
https://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/ir/en/finance/ar/ar2014/tar2014e_or.pdf




Toshiba has massive equity from decades worth of different subsidiaries and 40 different R&D departments across the globe.


Toshiba also has 200,000 employees.

Regarding Toshiba attempting to buy SEGA back in the day, yes its true.

Google "Soichiro Iwajiiri Dreamcast end game".


I agree that it's not a certainty in any way, but I'm 100% for it if it happens. Sega needs an electronics hardware partner. That is the absolute only hope for a new console of any type to happen.

Sega's good, but no where near as good as when they were deving for their own platform.

Agreed wholeheartedly. SEGA has stronger game talent when they develop for their own machine.(That's because they can FULLY understand the design and schematics  of their own platform).
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: crackdude on November 03, 2015, 12:03:18 pm
That's 2014 information tho. There hasn't been anything on it since
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: EnternalHope on November 03, 2015, 02:31:38 pm
That's 2014 information tho. There hasn't been anything on it since


I know. The Sega Sammy Wikipedia page is still 7 years outdated.
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: pcm92 on November 16, 2015, 12:16:11 am
So, the Toshiba and Sega merger is not actual news yet?
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: Sharky on November 16, 2015, 03:23:45 am
So, the Toshiba and Sega merger is not actual news yet?

Nope, just like the SEGA + Nintendo + Mc Donalds + B.P Oil merger... It's almost as if it's a load of bullshit or something!
Title: Re: Toshiba!
Post by: EnternalHope on November 16, 2015, 12:43:33 pm
So, the Toshiba and Sega merger is not actual news yet?


It's speculation currently. But its not out of the realm of possibility. Especially once SEGA Holdings,Ltd opens for public trading.