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Title: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: east of eastside on February 14, 2010, 02:53:32 pm
This is a moment of remembrance.

Everyone bow their heads and gather around, please.


I was just thinking it was around this day that Sega canceled our dear console all those years ago. I took a look at wiki and, unless it is wrong, it has the date as Feb 14, 2001 which would be 9 years ago today.

Seems like yesterday.. (tears starting to stream)


The great joy she was to our lives is the great void we feel today.

There will never be another like her.


To our beloved console,

May she rest in peace.

Dreamcast Feb 14, 2001


 :cry:
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Aki-at on February 14, 2010, 02:54:34 pm
Dreamcast never died, what you on man?
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Barry the Nomad on February 14, 2010, 02:55:27 pm
The Dreamcast will never die!!!

Plug:
http://the-dreamcast-junkyard.blogspot.com/ (http://the-dreamcast-junkyard.blogspot.com/)
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Aki-at on February 14, 2010, 03:01:50 pm
Barry, why haven't you invited the people from the Dreamcast Junkyard here, do you hate them or something? Hmmmmmmm?
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Orta on February 14, 2010, 03:03:22 pm
It's still thinking, damn it. What kind of thread is this?!?!?!!
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Waffle on February 14, 2010, 03:04:54 pm
We need Cube to enlighten people on the fact that games still come out for it.
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Barry the Nomad on February 14, 2010, 03:06:16 pm
I'll ask Gagaman and Tomleecee to add Sega Bits to their respective links pages, and expect a shout out in all of my upcoming articles ;)
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: MadeManG74 on February 14, 2010, 03:08:59 pm
Quote from: "Waffle"
We need Cube to enlighten people on the fact that games still come out for it.

Why play Mass Effect 2 when you have an offline version of the original Counter-Strike?

[youtube:eylbn89o]Jv2qKsdloYY[/youtube:eylbn89o]


Well anyway, it was a sad day, but having said that, there were still great games coming out for the system after the production had officially ended, and I'm sure we all go back to play the console regularly.

You think about the amount of tribute threads and the hubbub after it's 10th anniversary, i can't think of any other console that gets this much love.
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Barry the Nomad on February 14, 2010, 03:10:32 pm
I remember those a-holes from X-Play broke the news. I was heart broken. :(
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Aki-at on February 14, 2010, 03:11:15 pm
Quote from: "Barry the Nomad"
I'll ask Gagaman and Tomleecee to add Sega Bits to their respective links pages, and expect a shout out in all of my upcoming articles ;)

I was hoping you were going to mention how you hate Gaga's guts and I was going have an excuse to IM him after years but you had to ruin my plans again, NEXT TIME GADGET, NEXT TIME!

(http://http://www.georgeaugustkoch.com/TVShows/InspectorGadget/Pictures/Claw2.jpg)
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Barry the Nomad on February 14, 2010, 03:16:19 pm
I can't hate Gagaman, he's the happiest man in Europe.
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: MadeManG74 on February 14, 2010, 03:30:59 pm
Quote from: "Barry the Nomad"
I can't hate Gagaman, he's the happiest man in Europe.

What about silvio berlusconi?

(http://http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Politics/images-2/silvio-berlusconi-adjusting-tie.jpg)
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Aki-at on February 14, 2010, 03:34:12 pm
Quote from: "MadeManG74"
(http://http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Politics/images-2/silvio-berlusconi-adjusting-tie.jpg)

(http://http://thetbjoshuafanclub.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/silvio-berlusconi.jpg)
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Pao on February 14, 2010, 03:53:05 pm
(http://http://i46.tinypic.com/24bozll.jpg)
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: MetaKraken_PSN on February 14, 2010, 03:58:32 pm
Never got a dang chance to buy SA2 and all other Dreamcast games. WHY, SEGA?! WHYYY!?!?!?!  :cry:  :cry:

Aki EDIT

(http://http://usd24.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/george_bush_silvio_berlusconi01.jpg)
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Orta on February 14, 2010, 06:01:31 pm
(http://http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/91761/original.jpg)
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: MadeManG74 on February 14, 2010, 06:13:17 pm
(http://http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_euMh06SrWH4/Sfp3Euro3oI/AAAAAAAAA_I/35nKZt1UQ-4/s400/berlusconi-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: crackdude on February 14, 2010, 06:32:08 pm
(http://http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/5558/article119850805a858cd0.jpg)

I love my Dreamcast. Forever and ever baby.
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: MadeManG74 on February 14, 2010, 06:38:54 pm
^Going off-topic again I see? Please discuss Silvio Bursculoni.

(http://http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01461/SilvioBerlusconi_1461376c.jpg)
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Sega Uranus on February 14, 2010, 07:05:29 pm
I think the worst thing about the Dreamcast is that almost all of it's special games have moved onto other platforms and sometimes even made better. Where is the Saturn love?!
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Barry the Nomad on February 14, 2010, 08:07:54 pm
Any Dreamcast game ported to the PS2 is still best on the Dreamcast simply because after ten years all THREE of my Dreamcast still work!

Meanwhile, the PS2 that I bought in 2002 is a piece of shit. The disc drive sticks and half the time when it powers up the video output is fucked (think slow motion black and white scrolling vertically).

I'd rather import Headhunter, Rez and Space Channel 5 Part 2 than attempt to play the PS2 versions.
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: George on February 14, 2010, 08:11:19 pm
I agree, PS2's break so fucking easily. Sony really can't make a quality PS2. I bought a slim one to play Yakuza 2, it got DRE in 45 mins. Yes, brand new, dead in under a hour.

That is when I just bought a PS3 that played PS2 games, plus I wanted Valkyria Chronicles and some other games at the time.
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Barry the Nomad on February 14, 2010, 08:14:55 pm
How easy is it to find a PS3 that plays PS2 games? Are they considered uber expensive?

I'm considering a PS2 Slim so I can play (glaces over at the shelf and counts) the 18 PS2 games that I own, however a PS2-compatible PS3 would also do the job.

Oh Sony... why can't you not suck...

[youtube:3h3g20uh]qRq9uuxeYZM[/youtube:3h3g20uh]
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: George on February 14, 2010, 08:22:58 pm
Well it cost me 350 (shipped, with insurance) when I got it. I heard they can be sniped on ebay for under 280 if you look hard enough.

Now if Microsoft made a 360 that didn't give everyone problems i'd be in business. I have a disc read error. My friends 360 got fried (dunno, and the others have Red Rings of Death (out of warranty). Eeeeeeeeh.
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Barry the Nomad on February 14, 2010, 08:41:16 pm
I've been having "Open Tray" errors on my 360 since November, but the damnedest thing is that it will do it for a week (I pop in a game, close the tray, it won't read the disc, open and close a few times until it works) and then it will go 2-3 weeks working just fine. I still have until the end of July before my warranty runs out, so I'm going to hold off until it's warmer out. Last thing I want is 20 inches of snow outside and no Bayonetta to keep me warm :(

You know why the Dreamcast is so damn reliable? It plays games and reads music CDs. THATS IT! No harddrives or blu-ray drives or DVD drives or automated sliding trays or complex shit. Just a simple pop open lid. I swear, all the Dreamcast has inside it is two gears, a spring and a piece of magic plastic that plays games.
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Sega Uranus on February 14, 2010, 09:03:48 pm
Wii actually has less features than that, it does not play music CDs like every CD based game console ever has been able to do.

Now we should all talk about my favorite obscure extra for the Dreamcast. How every game had it's own CD image in the section on the main menu where you listen to music! Like how with every Genesis game I got to the first thing I would do is see what the character did when I waited around, with every Dreamcast game I got I would go into the music section to check out the image on the CD.  8-)
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: George on February 14, 2010, 09:17:42 pm
Quote from: "Barry the Nomad"
I've been having "Open Tray" errors on my 360 since November, but the damnedest thing is that it will do it for a week (I pop in a game, close the tray, it won't read the disc, open and close a few times until it works) and then it will go 2-3 weeks working just fine. I still have until the end of July before my warranty runs out, so I'm going to hold off until it's warmer out. Last thing I want is 20 inches of snow outside and no Bayonetta to keep me warm :(

You know why the Dreamcast is so damn reliable? It plays games and reads music CDs. THATS IT! No harddrives or blu-ray drives or DVD drives or automated sliding trays or complex shit. Just a simple pop open lid. I swear, all the Dreamcast has inside it is two gears, a spring and a piece of magic plastic that plays games.
Because playing Blu-rays or DVDs makes playing games harder? I don't understand? If you don't want it, don't use it. But I have a big Bluray/DVD collection and I appreciate having those features.
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: MadeManG74 on February 15, 2010, 02:41:43 am
Quote from: "George"
Quote from: "Barry the Nomad"
I've been having "Open Tray" errors on my 360 since November, but the damnedest thing is that it will do it for a week (I pop in a game, close the tray, it won't read the disc, open and close a few times until it works) and then it will go 2-3 weeks working just fine. I still have until the end of July before my warranty runs out, so I'm going to hold off until it's warmer out. Last thing I want is 20 inches of snow outside and no Bayonetta to keep me warm :(

You know why the Dreamcast is so damn reliable? It plays games and reads music CDs. THATS IT! No harddrives or blu-ray drives or DVD drives or automated sliding trays or complex shit. Just a simple pop open lid. I swear, all the Dreamcast has inside it is two gears, a spring and a piece of magic plastic that plays games.
Because playing Blu-rays or DVDs makes playing games harder? I don't understand? If you don't want it, don't use it. But I have a big Bluray/DVD collection and I appreciate having those features.

I think he just means that the more tasks they have to program into a console, the more opportunity for something to fail. Kinda like how people sometimes prefer Revolvers to Semi-Automatics because there are less moving parts to fail (Although I've heard that might not be entirely accurate). Not sure if that's true or not, since I'm no console maker-guy.

Anyway, I agree with him that I don't like toaster slides and disc trays as much as pop top disc thingies, again it's just less parts to have to worry about failing, also you don't have to turn the console on or power it up every time you want to put in/take out a disc.
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: crackdude on February 15, 2010, 04:47:50 am
Hey trivia question! Do you know how many moving parts the Mega Drive had inside? NONE! That's why every unit works great more than 20 years later!

New consoles plain suck in that regard.

Also, you need not to worry if you get RROD on your xbox. There's a repair kit that costs 20 bucks and works great..

I can't say the Dreamcast is the most reliable console.. My first one aways locked up at the loading screens. And now sometimes I have to open it up and clean the power board so that it won't restart all the time.
It takes care and attention. It's like having a sick puppy. You do it with so much joy and care..
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Barry the Nomad on February 15, 2010, 07:48:06 am
Quote from: "George"
Because playing Blu-rays or DVDs makes playing games harder? I don't understand? If you don't want it, don't use it. But I have a big Bluray/DVD collection and I appreciate having those features.

No no, I wasn't attacking the ability to play movies, I meant (like MadeMan said) that the less operations and moving parts, the less opportunities the system has to fail. Like MadeMan, I don't know if this is true or not, however I see many more working systems from the third through fourth generation than I do from the fifth onwards (the Dreamcast being an exception).

My XBOX and PS2 both have disc tray problems despite only being 8 and 9 years old respectively. Meanwhile my junker Saturn has lasted 15 years problem free and my Genesis still feels brand new despite being 20 years old. Same goes for my Game Gear, Nomad, Pico (lol) and previously mentioned Dreamcasts.

I don't know how reliable GameCube's are nowadays, but I'm guessing they're reliable. Probably because they never get played (I kid, I kid).
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: MadeManG74 on February 15, 2010, 02:46:06 pm
Quote from: "crackdude"
Hey trivia question! Do you know how many moving parts the Mega Drive had inside? NONE! That's why every unit works great more than 20 years later!
Not to mention they run completely silent too. I  was surprised when I played Mega-Drive for the first time in years a while back that it made no noise whatsoever after 3 generations of machines with fans/cooling systems/disc drives etc.
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: George on February 15, 2010, 02:51:45 pm
New consoles are also about 1,000 times more powerful than a Megadrive and run off more heat. Come on. ... tell me we are not having this conversation
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Aki-at on February 15, 2010, 02:57:04 pm
Mega Drive has blast processing.

Does any other console have blast processing? No? Didn't think.

[spoiler:1wpnef9e]Joke post don't kill me George =[[/spoiler:1wpnef9e]
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Barry the Nomad on February 15, 2010, 03:09:28 pm
We're pushing power aside. Genesis generates just as much fun as a 360, but with 100% more reliability. I'm certain my children will be able to power up my Genesis when I am long dead, but my 360... eh, they'll probably be seeing a RROD.
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Alex Supersonic on February 15, 2010, 03:22:14 pm
it was 31 january as far as I remember, I should have the press release somewhere here
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: MadeManG74 on February 15, 2010, 04:55:23 pm
Quote from: "George"
New consoles are also about 1,000 times more powerful than a Megadrive and run off more heat. Come on. ... tell me we are not having this conversation

I think you are taking this the wrong way, I was just saying how surprised I was when I played Mega Drive after a long time and how it was completely silent.

I'm not trying to argue it's better than PS3 or anything mang.
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: crackdude on February 15, 2010, 05:30:51 pm
One of the things I most love about my Mega Drive is the absolute lack of load times.
Not to mention the sweet silence and the very durable cartridges.

I can't play my 360 at night cause it makes almost as much noise as my washing machine. It wakes everybody up!

No matter how many times more evolved games are today, there's something about simplicity that really nails it.
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Dr. SEGA Monkey on February 15, 2010, 09:00:01 pm
But....only disc based systems make noise anyway.

Even the N64 was silent.
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Sega Uranus on February 15, 2010, 09:50:20 pm
Quote from: "Dr. SEGA Monkey"
Even the N64 was silent.

Because it had no good games and no one was playing it! ZIIIING!

[spoiler:33vet04c]Another joke post, I like the console but you have to admit the lineup is poor![/spoiler:33vet04c]
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: George on February 15, 2010, 11:39:52 pm
That is ok, I hated the N64.
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: crackdude on February 16, 2010, 07:25:00 am
I bought a N64 for Mario Kart 64 alone! Sad thing is I never actually got the game.. It's laying there...with Wipeout 64 plugged in..
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: jonboy101 on February 16, 2010, 08:51:59 am
Why hate the N64? It had a lot of terrific games on it and the controller actually wasn't as bad as people make out.
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: George on February 16, 2010, 08:57:47 am
Quote from: "jonboy101"
Why hate the N64? It had a lot of terrific games on it and the controller actually wasn't as bad as people make out.
Not as bad if you had 3 hands. :3

Most of the games on it did not appeal to me.
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: crackdude on February 16, 2010, 06:26:55 pm
The controller is what pretty much sold it to me.

And if you have friends coming over, the N64 is the console to have plugged in (if you don't have a Saturn layin' around of course).
Title: Re: Brothers, let us gather around -Dreamcast R.I.P Feb 14, 2001
Post by: Sega Uranus on February 16, 2010, 08:01:15 pm
I never understood the hate for the Nintendo 64 controller, at least not at how it was directed! The main problem was how the analog stick would become flaccid after a few weeks *enter dick erection joke here*.

Yeah!