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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: crackdude on December 05, 2012, 09:26:03 am
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http://www.vg247.com/2012/12/05/streets-of-rage-shelved-remake-footage-leaks-online/ (http://www.vg247.com/2012/12/05/streets-of-rage-shelved-remake-footage-leaks-online/)
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Eh.... looks all right, but rather generic. I don't think it earned the SOR name, so it's best it was cancelled.
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Wow
Makes me glad that SEGA hasn't redone or re imagined any more of their classic franchises, because all they would have done is ruin their legacy *points at golden axe and sonic 4
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I think the Idea of an HD reboot of a Classic Sega Franchise on Download Services is interresting in any case.
SEGA needs to make a Beta-em-up brawler again. Altered Beast, Golden Axe and Streets of Rage have lots of recognition and fanfare.
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Yeah I forgot to add that all it would take the right people for making a true sequel. But most of the IP's have been used more like marketing gimmick *nods
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Wow
Makes me glad that SEGA hasn't redone or re imagined any more of their classic franchises, because all they would have done is ruin their legacy *points at golden axe and sonic 4
As if Golden Axe ever had one single good game in the series. People loved them for the simplicity, feel and music. They were godawful in gameplay and blandly repetitive. The recent Golden Axe is the same thing, entertaining for a while, a bad game overall.
SoR is in a completely different level. I really can't imagine the game working with today's videogame mechanics. It would have to be something like Dynamite Deka
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Doesn't look too bad to me. The opening was nice and just change the character designs back from the original source.
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That looks pretty awesome, actually.
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guys you cant judge by such a small footage. but god i would buy it :)
come on guys maybe this one is a 7 out of ten
and then after when second part comes out it might be 10 out of 10
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As if Golden Axe ever had one single good game in the series. People loved them for the simplicity, feel and music. They were godawful in gameplay and blandly repetitive. The recent Golden Axe is the same thing, entertaining for a while, a bad game overall.
I think saying it is a bad game overall is maybe a little too harsh. Repetition could be said about many games at the time, but what kept things fresh was the sense of progression in the difficulty and overall challenge but indeed also in the feel of epicness and music. I don't think we can deny it's seen as a classic in general, its inclusion in allstar racing transformed has mostly drawn positive reactions, but ofcourse there is a lot of nostalgia involved as well.
Altered beast however fits well into your description imo, but then someone else could disagree with me. :o
SoR is in a completely different level. I really can't imagine the game working with today's videogame mechanics. It would have to be something like Dynamite Deka
I think anything is possible with the right idea/direction.
Edit: Honestly the game doesn't look that bad, just not streets of rage worthy imo
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I think saying it is a bad game overall is maybe a little too harsh. Repetition could be said about many games at the time, but what kept things fresh was the sense of progression in the difficulty and overall challenge but indeed also in the feel of epicness and music. I don't think we can deny it's seen as a classic in general, its inclusion in allstar racing transformed has mostly drawn positive reactions, but ofcourse there is a lot of nostalgia involved as well.
Altered beast however fits well into your description imo, but then someone else could disagree with me. :o
I think anything is possible with the right idea/direction.
Edit: Honestly the game doesn't look that bad, just not streets of rage worthy imo
Well, it was pretty bad.. But that's the thing, it was the same sort of bad as the old ones. Of course Golden Axe games were arcade games, and beast rider was made as an adventure game. I don't think the formula works well today. Don't get me wrong, I love Golden Axe. But it has never been about the games' quality.
Yeah, it looks like a generic beat-em-up. It's as if it's Streets of Rage just because it says so.
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^Isn't Streets of Rage a generic beat em up too though? JUst one that was particularly well executed?
I really liked the visuals, but they would need to really mix it up between levels like they did in the old games. The rainy streets look nice, but they need to have sunny beaches and futuristic secret bases etc to round it all out too.
It would really hinge on the gameplay as well I think.
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I think for an update there would need to be more of a stylized kind of visuals. This presentation just looks very plain. For example, although I don't really like the updated Street Fighter style that much, at least they chose some direction other than blandness.
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You could go as far as say that it's a Final Fight clone. But it oozes it's own personality.
The leaked footage just seems lacking. Sure it must have been in it's very early stages of development, so the final result might have been much more interesting.
The one thing I think made the SoR trilogy great (besides the astonishing music) is tight gameplay. If they made this game with tight gameplay I guess it would be great.
Too bad they canned the game (again).
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In some ways I see Yakuza as a modern-day Streets of Rage. Imagine a Yakuza game that was just scrolling battles without the RPG elements. I think it could work.
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In some ways I see Yakuza as a modern-day Streets of Rage. Imagine a Yakuza game that was just scrolling battles without the RPG elements. I think it could work.
Yeah I always saw as Yakuza being more of a Streets of Rage type of game in combat, while Shenmue was more Virtua Fighter.
I'd like to think that it was intented that way a little bit, since the Spikeout games were from Nagoshi, and those were the last scrolling battles type games after Dynamite Cop from Sega.
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Personally, I think it looked gorgeous. It's obvious they were trying to give it a more realistic look and feel, which is fine. However, the combat system looks a little wonky. I think it would have benefited from a 3D targeting/lock-on system much like in Ocarina of Time. That may have been implemented, but I didn't see a visual cue indicating that. Otherwise, I would have totally bought it. Wish we could have seen more classic stages redone in 3D.
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In some ways I see Yakuza as a modern-day Streets of Rage. Imagine a Yakuza game that was just scrolling battles without the RPG elements. I think it could work.
They should cameo Mr.X in yakuza somehow...trying to take over a small town and Kazuma just beats the crap out of him and says to him "Head back to America, your Tryant ways will not go unhindered by the Yakuza".
A SEGA fan can dream with crossover cameos...of course, he'd be only a secret boss.
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They should totally crossover Yakuza, Shenmue, SoR and Virtua Fighter.
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Suddenly, we get sound and a comment from the leaker:
http://vimeo.com/ruffiangames/review/54941740/47926c8b2d (http://vimeo.com/ruffiangames/review/54941740/47926c8b2d)
Welcome to our brand new Vimeo account and to kick off here are some scenes from a playable prototype. It was something we built very rapidly and represents pre-pre-pre-pre (lots of pres) pre-Alpha quality. Even so it has a certain charm :)
What's the story behind it all? Like a lot of developers we work on a lot of different prototypes, they're just not usually shown in public. In this case an older version of the same video was leaked last week which came as a bit of a surprise if I'm honest. As it had no sound I thought there wouldn't be any harm sharing a version with audio.
Beyond that there's not a lot more I can say unfortunately :)
Enjoy
gaz
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Glad SEGA canned this, this feels and looks nothing like Streets of Rage. I dislike how dark and gritty this world is trying to be, it's not Streets of Rage at all but just another bad attempt at cashing in on the nostelgia that was SoR.
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Well, it was pretty bad.. But that's the thing, it was the same sort of bad as the old ones. Of course Golden Axe games were arcade games, and beast rider was made as an adventure game. I don't think the formula works well today. Don't get me wrong, I love Golden Axe. But it has never been about the games' quality.
Yeah, it looks like a generic beat-em-up. It's as if it's Streets of Rage just because it says so.
SHUT UP!! golden axe is great and you know it! The HD game is garbage, even though I enjoyed it a little bit
pls don't tell.
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Lol, I did happen to like Tyris Flare redesign and her famous "Not this day!" line. Heck I've even met a Tyris cosplayer back in 2008 at SDCC.
(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/756/31096816483249034505628.jpg)
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OMG!!!! If they make this I'm so down, I would be the first to buy it xP....
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I don't see whats so Dark and Gritty about this. It's a neon drenched city during a rain-storm at night, and the first levels of both SOR1 and 2 were... neon drenched cities during a rain-storm. At night.
I think the jump in graphics makes it look different but I don't think it's overly grimdark.
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I don't see whats so Dark and Gritty about this. It's a neon drenched city during a rain-storm at night, and the first levels of both SOR1 and 2 were... neon drenched cities during a rain-storm. At night.
I think the jump in graphics makes it look different but I don't think it's overly grimdark.
That trailer looks nothing like this;
(http://hardcoregaming101.net/streetsofrage/Streets%20of%20Rage-1.gif)
The lighting is way off. The lighting should be something closer to this;
(http://darkzero.co.uk/asset/2010/04/yakuza-3-6.jpg)
And the baddies really look dull compared to what I am used to for a Streets of Rage game. Obviously it was just a concept video, but nothing really seemed that great to me.
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Why is everyone complaining? This was more or less a demo and from what i seen its got potential. The main character sprite has let it down but the enemy sprites are well done and the set up is ok as well for a download game that's very good. If this game had demonstrated two player co op i would suspect most people would be giddy in the knees.
For what it is, its better than I was expecting. Actually it be good to see someone compare this new demo to the Dreamcast/xbox demo of SOA that was leaked online nearly a decade back.
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I think all most of us are really doing is expressing how happy we are streets of rage's name hasn't been abused like that.
As someone else said in the comments of the video, it looked more like fighting force than a streets of rage game. Tbh the game lacks almost everything I love about SoR. A big name like SoR shouldn't be treated so carelessly
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OMG!!!! If they make this I'm so down, I would be the first to buy it xP....
so would i. i sense to much complaining here. it looked really nice and imagine if u play 2 players. its all about arcade
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Lol, I did happen to like Tyris Flare redesign and her famous "Not this day!" line. Heck I've even met a Tyris cosplayer back in 2008 at SDCC.
(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/756/31096816483249034505628.jpg)
id like to date that woman
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id like to date that woman
Dude, each passing day you reach new levels of creepy.
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Dude, each passing day you reach new levels of creepy.
lol
Anyway, saw the video again with sound. Don't like the modern type music. Yuzo's work always kept me motivated when beating down on enemies.
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Oh Semmie. You're my new favorite.
Getting back into the forums at various gaming places has reminded me of some old names. I wonder what happened to those people.
Anyone remember, what was his name... Damn... Ko-something? he was a real abrasive, but sometimes funny guy on Seganerds?
Anyway, sorry to get off-topic. This demo looked fun and mindless and I liked the neon and the stylistic choices.
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Dude, each passing day you reach new levels of creepy.
u mean to tell me ur gay?
come on dude. u mean te tell me u dont like her?
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u mean to tell me ur gay?
come on dude. u mean te tell me u dont like her?
Hey hey hey, let's get back into the topic.
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Oh Semmie. You're my new favorite.
Getting back into the forums at various gaming places has reminded me of some old names. I wonder what happened to those people.
Anyone remember, what was his name... Damn... Ko-something? he was a real abrasive, but sometimes funny guy on Seganerds?
Anyway, sorry to get off-topic. This demo looked fun and mindless and I liked the neon and the stylistic choices.
let me put it like this.
we see this tiny movie of sor. and we all have our opinions allready.
but when u look at the game its pretty awesome. there is not much onto a fighting game such as
hunter the reckoning
dungeon siege 3 etc.
these games are kind of a sor in 3d. while complaining we could say hey this is a nice arcade game perhaps.
we didnt even see how many players we can choose. we didnt see some story line. even tho arcade games have short storylines. but still when u look at that game
it is a really special thing.
some of u may have played spike out
not the xbox version but of the arcade. that was really a good game.
all i say is we should give it a chance. whenever sega is trying we kick them back in the pit. the old days the old days the old days.
whatsup man. do we want sor or not. let them bring out and then after we make some complaining and sor2 3d will be better then the previous
Right?
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I remembered his name. Kogen. That guy was such a bastard.
Anyway, the SOR topic is kind of boring.
This makes me want to see some other prototypes that never come out. Wouldn't that be interesting.
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Kogen was truly special. I think he was a legit neo-Nazi or something.
Anyway, I still don't think it looked that bad to be honest. I don't really see the dark and gritty thing everyone else seems to, especially since it was just one level. Of course I would want to see the next level be a beach during the day or something to mix things up, but I kind of liked the rain and neon lights look it had. I didn't hear the music, so can't comment, but of course nothing beats SOR2 soundtrack.
Anyway, I still think Yakuza fighting engine would make a great SOR update.
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I think all most of us are really doing is expressing how happy we are streets of rage's name hasn't been abused like that.
As someone else said in the comments of the video, it looked more like fighting force than a streets of rage game. Tbh the game lacks almost everything I love about SoR. A big name like SoR shouldn't be treated so carelessly
Fighting Force was supposed to be Streets of Rage 4 anyway. Judging by this demo, I don't think the game would've abused the Streets of Rage name. It's kind of a drag that most developers are striving for realism, but what are ya' gonna' do? "Realism" is this month's current flavor.
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Okay, can people start explaining all these complaints? How is this any more 'realism' than Streets of Rage 1 or 2? It's a dude beating up thugs on a city street. One guy has a bunch of knives. I distinctly remember all of that shit in the first games too. :o
I really don't see how this is any different to the old games apart from that it's in 3D.
Seriously, tell me WHY you think it looks dark and gritty and 'realistic' compared to the old games. not trolling or getting in anyone's grill, but I just keep seeing posts like 'wow I'm so glad this piece of shit never got made, I hate realism and modern GRIMDARK' without saying why.
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Okay, can people start explaining all these complaints? How is this any more 'realism' than Streets of Rage 1 or 2? It's a dude beating up thugs on a city street. One guy has a bunch of knives. I distinctly remember all of that shit in the first games too. :o
I really don't see how this is any different to the old games apart from that it's in 3D.
Seriously, tell me WHY you think it looks dark and gritty and 'realistic' compared to the old games. not trolling or getting in anyone's grill, but I just keep seeing posts like 'wow I'm so glad this piece of shit never got made, I hate realism and modern GRIMDARK' without saying why.
I can't speak for everyone, but I think it has to do with the overall look and feel. We have realistic textures and it is - admittedly - darker than the trilogy. When I say "dark", I'm referring to lighting. In Streets of Rage 1-3, street lamps are a bit brighter, store fronts are lit up, in addition to all that neon. Color's another issue, I think. In the demo, with exception to the neon sign and stage markers, the color scheme's muted by comparison. Textures are very realistic and there's much more shadow.
All that being said, it still feels like Streets of Rage and I would've played it. The only thing missing for me was music.
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The state of current technology forces the game to either be cartoony or more realistic (realistic textures/lighting).
It's not easy at all to convey the same ambience as the old 2D games.
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The state of current technology forces the game to either be cartoony or more realistic (realistic textures/lighting).
It's not easy at all to convey the same ambience as the old 2D games.
True, but I don't think any of us are wanting Sega (or affiliated developers) to settle for doing something easy. They have a tremendous legacy to live up to, and any revisiting of IPs from those previous eras should be held to the highest standard. Besides, not every new game has to be 3D, right? There have been quite a few high profile pixel-art and hand-drawn games over the past several years, not to mention the possibility of 3D games that resemble pixel art in various ways.
As was mentioned above, I think of the Yakuza series as a spiritual successor to Streets of Rage, among some other titles.
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Kogen was truly special.
LOL you made me laugh when I read this ... Indeed he was ^^
For this video, I think there were some good ideas : Boss presentation ( the guy with knives I assume), the intro to the level was kinda cool, the animation were a bit poor - but I heard it was a 2 months work for 2 people - just a pitch. Wondering if it was SEGA asking those dev teams for a demo or those guys really trying to lure SEGA into bringing the series back.
I am really bummed they do not reach to Ancient as I remembered Koshiro's sister finalized the design of the characters of SOR 4.
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Oh Semmie. You're my new favorite.
Well somebody likes him, enough to give him 17 kudos's. That's more than even the mods here.
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As if Golden Axe ever had one single good game in the series. People loved them for the simplicity, feel and music. They were godawful in gameplay and blandly repetitive. The recent Golden Axe is the same thing, entertaining for a while, a bad game overall.
SoR is in a completely different level. I really can't imagine the game working with today's videogame mechanics. It would have to be something like Dynamite Deka
You' e never touched Revenge if Death Adder, have you? Equipable weapons for your mount like catapults and cannons, coop magic (summoning an apple tree that drops apple's for your allies), up to 6 enemy grunts on screen, 4 player coop.
Also the original Golden Axe is superior in Arcade, the megadrive version has wonky hit detection, misses Death Adder cool transformation out of snakes and bones and the decapitation flying into the screen in the intro.
Bare Knuckle (or Streets of Rage in the west), has flair because the series highligh by showing the same amount of grunts on screen as arcade games 5-6. While puny SFC belt scroll games (or beat'em up in the west) could only do 3 grunts lined up with the playable character before flicker starts to appear. I always thought it had to do with megadrive's superior processor, but it was an AI trick, to code the AI if never lining up more then 3 sprites with the playable character. Clever bastards @ SEGA. Never noticed this, because the enemy's AI is ferocious enough to charge @ you, when 1 of the 3 other grunts dissapear from that line, and demanding more crowd control.
This game revamp looked below the average belt scroll game, the boss jack is well designed, but the playable character and the grunts look poorly desiged, the music sounded uninspired, the stages needs more neon flair, the fighting system need a big tune up and come on the first Bare Knuckle had more enemies on screen (as explained above). It's alpha though, so i cut them some slack, but it needed a lot of work to polisb that right.
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Ok, it's an alpha, or whatever, and looks like shit.
Looks also like Spike Out.
Yuzo Koshiro could do a better job on a new Bare Knuckle. I think he was not only a music composer...
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Ok, it's an alpha, or whatever, and looks like shit.
Looks also like Spike Out.
Yuzo Koshiro could do a better job on a new Bare Knuckle. I think he was not only a music composer...
there is a difference between spike out xbox and spike out arcade. just that u know.
it doesnt look like poop. it looks more like lavendel soap and big gold strike tequilla.
its a good game if it came out.
people just want streets of rage to be to much of something
. i would v been happy if i could play this. plus the fact its just a small utube movie. there is no way we can judge anyways. that would be something called injustice to the game