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Title: E3 2015
Post by: 3raser on April 21, 2015, 11:32:40 pm
What games do you want software companies to announce to in June?

I know that I want Battlefront, Fallout 4, Gears of War, Mad Max, and Titanfall 2.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on April 22, 2015, 12:53:17 am
Hmm. I would say Mass effect 4. But im worried about the change the industry has made since 3. EA has been a publisher ive avoided for a while.

I would hope the last guardian (lmfao). Im a believer. And a new metroid. Retro studios is hopefully making a new metroid game. A metroid couldnt possibly come out this year but itd still be cool.

I dunno man. I like it when e3 isnt predictable. Every year they show trailers as if we're getting thousands of games. But in the end only a couple of them come out in the 1/2 upcoming years. See no man's sky.

Id like to see one of the publishers anounce something huuuge and then surprise with a 2015 release date. I mean with the hype culture stuff like that rarely happens. Gotta pre order dat shit years before it comes out either without knowing how the game plays or fake scripted images(alien colonial marines, watch dogs).

Meh, I digress. I love e3 and cant wait.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: fernandeath on April 22, 2015, 02:56:47 am
A new bomberman for the 3DS with a single player/adventure mode
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: TimmiT on April 22, 2015, 04:55:20 am
Hopefully they'll finally show the Ratchet & Clank PS4 game, which they announced last year but still haven't shown. Nintendo will likely show Star Fox Wii U, which I hope will be good cause it's been too long since we got a good one of those. Also, I'd like to see more of Persona 5.

I'm interested in seeing whatever Rare has been up to, they're apparently reviving an old franchise and it seems like it might be Battletoads for some reason.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: SOUP on April 22, 2015, 07:42:04 am
I'm hoping to find out more about what's coming out for the 3DS this fall.
Hopefully a North American retail release for the latest Ace Attorney and Fire Emblem games.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on April 22, 2015, 08:14:46 am
Shenmue III


(Even though Sega isn't going to E3)
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Jumbomax on April 22, 2015, 03:40:37 pm
I'm hoping Ubisoft announces a new Rayman game. I loved Rayman Origins and Legends. ;)
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: TimmiT on April 22, 2015, 05:21:53 pm
Shenmue III


(Even though Sega isn't going to E3)
They won't have a booth, doesn't mean they won't show anything.

Also Atlus has a booth, so technically they are partially there. :V
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on April 22, 2015, 05:32:24 pm
Mass Effect IV
Gameplay for Rise of Tomb Raider
New Battletoads?
New Banjo?
Gears of War IV?
Super Mario Galaxy 3?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on April 22, 2015, 07:12:35 pm
They won't have a booth, doesn't mean they won't show anything.

Also Atlus has a booth, so technically they are partially there. :V
No sega but yes atlus? How weird
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Radrappy on April 22, 2015, 07:52:40 pm
No sega but yes atlus? How weird

atlus makes games :)
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on April 22, 2015, 07:59:36 pm
SEGA has just announced a trilogy of Warhammer games that will sell more than anything Atlus has at E3 combined.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Radrappy on April 22, 2015, 09:45:44 pm
SEGA has just announced a trilogy of Warhammer games that will sell more than anything Atlus has at E3 combined.

Cool, CA should be very proud. 
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on April 22, 2015, 10:06:12 pm
I want new IPs, everyone plays it too safe and its already boring as fuck.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: inthesky on April 22, 2015, 11:43:44 pm
A new bomberman for the 3DS with a single player/adventure mode

This actually was a thing at one point -- a couple of years ago. It resembled the N64 games but then again the gulf between the N64 and the GCN games wasn't that big. It sounded like fun anyway. And now of course Hudson's properties are owned by Konami and Bomberman is MIA

Those were so fun. Multiplayer Bomberman is such a great formula.

Shenmue III


(Even though Sega isn't going to E3)

I'm feeling it.

This year's the year. #believe #shamoo3
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Team Andromeda on April 23, 2015, 02:19:27 am
I want new IPs, everyone plays it too safe and its already boring as fuck.

Like SEGA you mean ?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on April 23, 2015, 03:16:49 am
Like SEGA you mean ?
At this point I take it from anyone. I'm a bit tired of all publishers playing it safe. I understand the need for franchises but we got a new generation, lets move forward.

That doesn't mean that I won't get excited for some continued franchises I like, I mean we are gamers, of course we want more of what we already like. But I think every publisher should have a few new titles each year, you never know when you have a next hit franchise.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Team Andromeda on April 23, 2015, 03:31:21 am
At this point I take it from anyone. I'm a bit tired of all publishers playing it safe. I understand the need for franchises but we got a new generation, lets move forward.

Well it's not going to come from SEGA is it . They are new IP the trouble is they tend to be in genre's already done. I mean the likes of Watchdogs, Drive Club, The Order, Bloodborne, TitanFall Sunset Overdrive, Destiny, Ryse are all new IP, but are new IP  in gene's we've seen before

Anyway this E3 I'm looking to seeing some gameplay from the likes of...  The Division, Rainbow Six, Halo 5, Quantum Break, Rise of Tomb Raider, Uncharted IV , Starfox , Final Fantasy 15, RE 7, Deep Down.

Don't care if they are sequels only care if they play good 
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: TimmiT on April 23, 2015, 06:52:05 am
SEGA has just announced a trilogy of Warhammer games that will sell more than anything Atlus has at E3 combined.
So which do you think needs more marketing to sell well? ;)

Also, still not much reason to have a booth for Warhammer if they don't have a playable demo yet.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on April 23, 2015, 08:49:21 am
They won't have a booth, doesn't mean they won't show anything.

Shenmue III confirmed.

atlus makes games :)
Upvoted.

I want new IPs, everyone plays it too safe and its already boring as fuck.

Brock Crocodile should be at E3.

At this point I take it from anyone. I'm a bit tired of all publishers playing it safe. I understand the need for franchises but we got a new generation, lets move forward.

That doesn't mean that I won't get excited for some continued franchises I like, I mean we are gamers, of course we want more of what we already like. But I think every publisher should have a few new titles each year, you never know when you have a next hit franchise.

Well we got Dragonscale that will hopefully get something shown at E3. TA mentioned a bunch of new IPs that came out in the last year or so too wouldn't be surprised if we see some more. We also got Nintendo with that Devil's Third and Splatoon which every Nintendo guy is cumming buckets over.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on April 23, 2015, 10:52:25 am
I expect everything to be announced for 2016 to be delayed until 2017 as per the usual this generation.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on April 23, 2015, 11:19:38 am
Brock Crocodile should be at E3.

Funny enough I was entered into a competition automatically to get into E3 but it used a voting process, unfortunately I didn't really bother, my time was better spent accumulating votes for Greenlight and development which already encompasses more than I'd like of my free time!
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on April 23, 2015, 12:44:55 pm
Set it up in the parking lot, like Ouya.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on April 24, 2015, 12:51:49 am
I expect everything to be announced for 2016 to be delayed until 2017 as per the usual this generation.
No way to get dissapointed this way heh.

Should be an interesting e3 with bethesda and square joining the conferences.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on April 24, 2015, 03:03:09 am
So which do you think needs more marketing to sell well? ;)

Also, still not much reason to have a booth for Warhammer if they don't have a playable demo yet.
I agree, they are better received at Gamescom.

As for Total War advertising, I don't think its as much as console games cost to market. They don't run ad campaigns really and their fanbase is pretty up to date on the online news.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Happy Cat on April 24, 2015, 07:28:30 am
I wonder if we'll get more announcements like this from Square Enix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoV27HhwuR4

Then again, with how many Square Enix fans seem to see FF7 as their favorite game of all time, kinda hard to top this troll.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: TimmiT on April 24, 2015, 08:14:16 am
I wonder if we'll get more announcements like this from Square Enix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoV27HhwuR4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoV27HhwuR4)

Then again, with how many Square Enix fans seem to see FF7 as their favorite game of all time, kinda hard to top this troll.
There's certainly a bigger chance of them doing one like that this year with them holding their own press conference.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on April 24, 2015, 01:57:11 pm
So surprised people still care about Final Fantasy VII, I bought into the hype and was laughing so hard at how shitty the game was and people still think its good. Nostaglia is a bitch. I played Chrono Trigger on the SNES a bit after playing VII, since I laughed the whole 'Square makes good RPGs' bandwagon away and was blown away.

I dunno how a developer could go from making one of the best 2D RPGs to make something like FFVII. What a drop in quality that continued quite rapidly.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on April 24, 2015, 02:07:37 pm
So surprised people still care about Final Fantasy VII, I bought into the hype and was laughing so hard at how shitty the game was and people still think its good. Nostaglia is a bitch. I played Chrono Trigger on the SNES a bit after playing VII, since I laughed the whole 'Square makes good RPGs' bandwagon away and was blown away.

I dunno how a developer could go from making one of the best 2D RPGs to make something like FFVII. What a drop in quality that continued quite rapidly.

Wasn't FFVII the first one that was on PS1 and in 3D? It's probably a Shenmue style thing, where you had to play it at the time to appreciate it. I keep hearing that it's not actually one of the best FF games and others are much better.

I haven't played an FF game ever though, so watevs. I don't really like JRPGs I've found though, with a few exceptions.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on April 24, 2015, 02:19:34 pm
I did play it when it came out, like the first month. It just sucked. Bad dialogue, bad plot, bad world, bad design. You name it, this game had it in spades. Not to mention the characters where just bad stereotypes of older FF games with new and worse artwork and somehow worse battle system. The Materia system was crap and I think Square knows this , thats why they have ignored a remake for so long.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on April 24, 2015, 02:33:44 pm
I did play it when it came out, like the first month. It just sucked. Bad dialogue, bad plot, bad world, bad design. You name it, this game had it in spades. Not to mention the characters where just bad stereotypes of older FF games with new and worse artwork and somehow worse battle system. The Materia system was crap and I think Square knows this , thats why they have ignored a remake for so long.

Oh, well in that case I don't know. Maybe it was the first JRPG many people played? Don't forget how many new gamers the PS era bought in and had no experience with games before hand, or very little at least.

Meanwhile I wouldn't touch Playstation or Nintendo because I was a stubborn Sega fan playing VF2 all day every day. Good Times.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on April 24, 2015, 02:45:10 pm
I got a Playstation for Christmas, not much I can do with no job growing up. I did get a Saturn that same year I had a Playstation (I did a awesome trade for a shitty N64 for a Saturn).

Honestly I think thats what it is, someone first playing it. I dunno I feel like the game was just really badly designed where you feel like you have to grind to get anywhere. Maybe I just expected too much from people's hype and is a average JRPG. 
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on April 24, 2015, 02:53:03 pm
Oh, well in that case I don't know. Maybe it was the first JRPG many people played? Don't forget how many new gamers the PS era bought in and had no experience with games before hand, or very little at least.

Meanwhile I wouldn't touch Playstation or Nintendo because I was a stubborn Sega fan playing VF2 all day every day. Good Times.
Sounds like good times.

I think I understand you george about ff7. Personally I love it though. I wouldnt mind a remake, but not if it looked like the ps3 tease from long time ago.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on April 24, 2015, 05:25:47 pm
The sole reason we bought a Playstation in 97' was because of FFVII. Game was incredible when it was released: Soundtrack, graphic rendering, characters, and story were great for its time.

Although it's certainly not my favorite FF game, it's on my top 5.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Jumbomax on April 24, 2015, 06:07:58 pm
So surprised people still care about Final Fantasy VII, I bought into the hype and was laughing so hard at how shitty the game was and people still think its good. Nostaglia is a bitch. I played Chrono Trigger on the SNES a bit after playing VII, since I laughed the whole 'Square makes good RPGs' bandwagon away and was blown away.

I dunno how a developer could go from making one of the best 2D RPGs to make something like FFVII. What a drop in quality that continued quite rapidly.

Are you kidding me?! Final Fantasy VII was genius! I first played it 2 years ago and I love it!

I guess some people just have different opinions.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Team Andromeda on April 27, 2015, 04:26:33 am
So surprised people still care about Final Fantasy VII, I bought into the hype and was laughing so hard at how shitty the game was and people still think its good. Nostaglia is a bitch.

I couldn't agree more . I never liked Squaresoft on the Snes and then with all the HYPE I had a borrow  of my mates PS along with games when he went to the USA on Holidays and couldn't believe just how rubbish and overrated FF 7 really was . The story and cast of characters was rubbish for me and that kills a RPG imo .

GameArts Lunar series was just so mucg better and still for me the best RPG's ever made 
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: TimmiT on April 30, 2015, 07:12:50 am
http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2015/04/30/theres-now-an-e3-press-conference-for-the-pc (http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2015/04/30/theres-now-an-e3-press-conference-for-the-pc)

Seems like this year's E3 is gonna have more presentations than usual. Assuming that the usual suspects will be there, there's:

Microsoft
Sony
Nintendo
Ubisoft
EA
Bethesda
Square Enix
PC Gamer

All holding presentations with game reveals and such.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on April 30, 2015, 08:28:09 am
http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2015/04/30/theres-now-an-e3-press-conference-for-the-pc (http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2015/04/30/theres-now-an-e3-press-conference-for-the-pc)

Seems like this year's E3 is gonna have more presentations than usual. Assuming that the usual suspects will be there, there's:

Microsoft
Sony
Nintendo
Ubisoft
EA
Bethesda
Square Enix
PC Gamer

All holding presentations with game reveals and such.

Kind of strange that PC Gamer is having a press conference. We'll see how it goes I guess. Might be nice to showcase some PC exclusives that otherwise might have been overlooked.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: crackdude on May 11, 2015, 11:58:59 am
Who here is hoping there are some complete blunders during the presentations?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on May 11, 2015, 03:20:05 pm
Who here is hoping there are some complete blunders during the presentations?

I'm personally hoping for more of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw_Bd-13YCk
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on May 11, 2015, 03:26:54 pm
Really all I care about is some word on new Wii U games (because I for some reason still need more justification to buy one), and whatever comes up at Bethesda's coference. Even if we don't get Fallout 4, I'm pretty hype about the new Doom, and that'll most definitely get a mention at least.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: TimmiT on May 11, 2015, 03:49:02 pm
Who here is hoping there are some complete blunders during the presentations?
I'd be amazed if Konami's E3 2010 press conference will ever be topped when it comes to blunders.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Chaosmaster8753 on May 11, 2015, 10:23:21 pm
All that Square Enix talk earlier reminded me how Kingdom Hearts was the reason I wanted a PS2 as a kid.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: crackdude on May 12, 2015, 04:29:05 am
Konami 2010 was amazing. I was in tears the whole time.
Same thing with Sony 06.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on May 12, 2015, 06:58:56 am
I'm personally hoping for more of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw_Bd-13YCk
Oh god
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Barry the Nomad on May 12, 2015, 01:21:38 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw_Bd-13YCk

(http://servingcinema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/whiplash-movie-gif-funny-oscar-season-jk-simmons-gifs-serving-cinema.gif)
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on May 12, 2015, 03:18:15 pm
Well since we're talking about nintendo. They're revealing their plans tomorrow.

https://mobile.twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/598140642867466240

Kind of curious how theyre gonna handle e3 this year. Wish they did conferences again
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: TimmiT on May 12, 2015, 03:39:08 pm
As much as I like conferences, their Nintendo Direct and Nintendo Treehouse were a couple of the best things from E3 2014. I wouldn't mind it if they did the same formula this year.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on May 12, 2015, 03:59:34 pm
I wish more publishers did that. They are more well edited, well put together and more entertaining that 90% of the actual E3 stage conferences. They are fucking boring, lets be honest.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on May 12, 2015, 04:39:54 pm
(http://servingcinema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/whiplash-movie-gif-funny-oscar-season-jk-simmons-gifs-serving-cinema.gif)

LMAO!!

Anyways, i agree with CrazyT, i prefer legit Conferences, not Nintendo Direct bs. Mainly cause i can't stand Iwata, you want to talk about boring, listening to that guy for a few mins drive me nuts.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: TimmiT on May 12, 2015, 05:04:20 pm
You know you'd probably get more Iwata with a press conference than with a Nintendo Direct, right?


Also, not sure if I'd call him boring seeing how he does stuff like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdDYoCU2kv0
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: crackdude on May 12, 2015, 05:20:23 pm
In all seriousness now.

If Konami can do press conferences, why can't Sega?
Well thought out presentations could bring in a lot of attention to our games.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: TimmiT on May 12, 2015, 06:20:33 pm
In all seriousness now.

If Konami can do press conferences, why can't Sega?
Well thought out presentations could bring in a lot of attention to our games.
Because doing a press conference costs a lot of money, and with SEGA America re-structuring they don't have time anyway.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on May 12, 2015, 08:59:32 pm
I still don't see why gamers care about conferences, they are always cringy and shitty.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Chaosmaster8753 on May 12, 2015, 09:44:08 pm
Well since we're talking about nintendo. They're revealing their plans tomorrow.

https://mobile.twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/598140642867466240

Kind of curious how theyre gonna handle e3 this year. Wish they did conferences again

I'm wondering if this is Reggie following up on him saying he'd try to get better at playing Super Smash Bros. like he implied at the Invitational and EVO last year?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on May 12, 2015, 10:14:12 pm
I still don't see why gamers care about conferences, they are always cringy and shitty.


Dunno, I'm probably still hoping that someday it'll return to the professionalism it once had. I also love seeing all of the ads in downtown LA when I'm by the Convention Center.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: crackdude on May 13, 2015, 06:00:17 am
It's funny E3 has been losing credibility ever since they excluded booth babes
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: TimmiT on May 13, 2015, 06:37:08 am
I really don't get how E3 is losing credibility. Maybe when it comes to the press being able to play games, as there are plenty of events for that now. Mostly public, but usually those have press days or behind closed doors stuff.

But when it comes to news, it hasn't really lost that much. Lots of stuff still gets revealed, and this year even has more presentations than usual. Publishers usually still save their biggest games for it.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on May 13, 2015, 08:45:15 am
If Konami can do press conferences, why can't Sega?
Well thought out presentations could bring in a lot of attention to our games.

It's not worth the time and money for the anaemic release schedule they are running with.

I still don't see why gamers care about conferences, they are always cringy and shitty.

You just answered you're own question. It's like watching a car accident.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: TimmiT on May 13, 2015, 10:54:50 am
Ubisoft's press conference will be on June 15th at 3PM PDT / 6PM EDT (http://gematsu.com/2015/05/ubisoft-dates-e3-2015-press-conference)


EDIT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbvzyY1FKr0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbvzyY1FKr0)


Nintendo's Digital Event held at the same time as Square Enix's press conference. Woops.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on May 13, 2015, 01:14:54 pm
Ubisoft conference or as it will be known: How to kill gaming one game at a time. I can't wait to see Watch_Dogs 2, another Assassins Creed and innovative sequels to Let's Dance.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on May 13, 2015, 01:26:23 pm
Ubisoft's press conference will be on June 15th at 3PM PDT / 6PM EDT (http://gematsu.com/2015/05/ubisoft-dates-e3-2015-press-conference)


EDIT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbvzyY1FKr0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbvzyY1FKr0)


Nintendo's Digital Event held at the same time as Square Enix's press conference. Woops.
Nice video :) . So a digital event again I see. Oh well.

Square and nintendo at the same time seems inconvenient for everyone. How unfortunate
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on May 13, 2015, 01:44:26 pm
Can we all mention the incredible line up of Square-Enix? I usually hate the company, not a huge Final Fantasy fan, but they have been killing it in terms of Japanese and Western games that both sides want.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on May 13, 2015, 02:08:05 pm
All my eyes are on deus ex. I know tomb raider is coming out this year. Anything else coming this year? Or whats the whole line up incl 2016?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on May 13, 2015, 02:59:00 pm
They have:

Star Ocean V
Kingdom Hearts 3
Final Fantasy XV
Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward (expansion)
Final Fantasy Type-1 HD (sequel to Type-0 HD)
Final Fantasy X HD remake. 
Dragon Quest Heroes

I mean that isn't bad for a Japanese company side of things, Enix side of Deus Ex, Tomb Raider are big games too. 
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on May 13, 2015, 03:13:40 pm
Aight thanks. The thing with square's conference is that Im easily excited for it because we kind of know what they're doing but we just want to see it all confirmed. With nintendo I havent the slightest clue what they're gonna show apart from a couple of games already anounced like xenoblade and starfox. I think nintendo hasnt hinted or anounced anything since last e3? Thats pretty crazy, you'd think they're already preparing for the next platform with this in mind, but they already deconfirmed any NX or mobile stuff at E3. I also hope square doesnt show too many CGI stuff. Its hard for me to pick but ill probably end up watching both at first but shut down the most boring one after a couple of minutes
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on May 13, 2015, 03:21:15 pm
They also haven't shown anything on Starfox that is suppose to come out this year.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on May 13, 2015, 06:41:33 pm
George you forgot to mention Just Cause 3 and Life is Strange too.

Extremely strong lineup, Square has turned it around in terms of content.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on May 13, 2015, 09:11:40 pm
SE is definitely one of the only Japanese companies that was able to adapt to the changing industry pretty well. It has a lot to do with the acquisition of Eidos, but I find myself enjoying a lot of their games lately.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on May 13, 2015, 09:25:43 pm
I wish SEGA Japan would learn from what Square is doing, give the hardcore fanbase some of the franchises they want, build IPs and don't give up on them right away. I think FF14 now turning in big profits is a big sign, the team released the game and it was hated as hell. At this point SEGA would have just released the game, but Square allowed them to fix it and it took a year or whatever.

People got pissed but in the end everyone agreed it was a good idea. Why can't SEGA do this? Just bite the cost if you believe in your titles and believe that making your brand name stronger is worth it.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: TimmiT on May 15, 2015, 12:03:14 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/LlEF1rg.gif)
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on May 15, 2015, 12:27:30 pm
^I like how nintendo embraced its silliness through their video content. It suits them well. I know I mentioned preferring conferences. I liked the previous digital event, but if they want to convince me, they have to reeeally bring it this time.

Anyway it seems all dates have been established. Which one(s) are you guys looking forward to most?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on May 15, 2015, 12:54:40 pm
Anyway it seems all dates have been established. Which one(s) are you guys looking forward to most?

Xbox because they're advertising this:

(https://content.sprinklr.com/prod.cdata.app.sprinklr.com/DAM/113/e3-2399088c-de18-4b8e-aa21-4a18061c76d1-1354847647.jpg)

Interested to see what other first party games are currently being developed.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on May 15, 2015, 01:00:31 pm
You know it's going to be COWADOODY BLACK OPS TRES - With EXCLUSIVE (For one week) MAPS for XBOX ONE ONLY*

*Purchased seperately via Season Pass and available TBA 2016.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on May 15, 2015, 01:38:45 pm
You know it's going to be COWADOODY BLACK OPS TRES - With EXCLUSIVE (For one week) MAPS for XBOX ONE ONLY*

*Purchased seperately via Season Pass and available TBA 2016.
Nothing against xbox personally. Those are pretty big words from them so who knows! But that bolded part never gets old LOL!
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: TimmiT on May 15, 2015, 02:12:06 pm
Square Enix changed the timeslot of their press conference, will now be at 10 AM PDT. Nintendo's digital event should be less than an hour long if it's like last year, so now they won't be in eachother's way.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on May 15, 2015, 03:24:24 pm
^That is excellent news. Would have been horrible for those who wanna cover the events through streams and for the viewers both. Square made the right decision
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 12, 2015, 07:10:13 am
E3 almost starting and the thread's at page 2? How are the hype levels in here :p ?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 12, 2015, 07:52:26 am
E3 almost starting and the thread's at page 2? How are the hype levels in here :p ?
Not particularly high.

I kinda want to see what Platinum has up it's sleeve and DOOM 4 but that's it.
I'm half expecting to be disappointed by DOOM 4.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: TimmiT on June 12, 2015, 09:56:07 am
Well, usually what I'm excited for with E3 is the stuff I don't know about.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 12, 2015, 09:57:53 am
That's a fair point, but last few E3's 'new stuff' has been sequels and the like right? Hoping for some nice surprises though!
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 12, 2015, 10:26:06 am
No Scalebound at E3

http://news.xbox.com/2015/06/xbox-looking-toward-e3-and-beyond?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Quote
Having a jam-packed lineup of games to show at E3 means that there simply isn’t enough time to give each of our upcoming titles its well-deserved time in the spotlight. We’ve decided to save some of our most eagerly-awaited future titles for gamescom in August. Rest assured that titles like Crackdown, Quantum Break and Scalebound will be front and center at gamescom along with new game reveals for both Xbox One and Windows 10.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 12, 2015, 10:38:31 am
NOOOOOOO!!

MS, why have you forsaken me?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 12, 2015, 12:24:58 pm
NOOOOOOO!!

MS, why have you forsaken me?

Gotta make time for Gears of War 6 and Halo 5. Not to mention COWADOODY Exlusive (for two weeks) Map Packs on ECKSBAWKS WUN.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 12, 2015, 01:05:05 pm
Yeah, well at least there's Halo 5, Gears 4, and Tomb Raider to look forward to. I'm almost positive that we'll be seeing a Rare IP get brought back from the grave as well.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 12, 2015, 02:31:47 pm
I wonder if there's a chance Yakoozer Zero will get a localisation announcement. Probably not before Y5 is out, but would be nice.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 12, 2015, 04:24:06 pm
Yeah probably not to be made till after Yakuza 5 sales drop in.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 12, 2015, 08:01:04 pm
That's a fair point, but last few E3's 'new stuff' has been sequels and the like right? Hoping for some nice surprises though!

It's not just that, last few E3's games have been announced the prior E3. This is going to be Metal Gear Solid V's third showing, ditto for Final Fantasy XV. It's hard to be excited when the stuff that we're going to see has been announced for years in advance now.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 13, 2015, 02:50:35 am
Man kind of surprised about the cynisism but I guess they've done it to themselves. With Sony back in the lead maybe they can put more variety back on the map. Unless Microsoft surprises the world with their change of focus after Don Mattrick screwing up. I feel like microsoft still hasnt fully come out of the hole they dug.

Nintendo has got me most excited personally. Its always hit and miss with them though. Sometimes the cynisism towards them is legit, and sometimes it feels like Nintendo purposefully screws around with people's minds, just to end up blowing them away. Sony is also good at this.

They're already beginning tomorrow with new smash brothers reveals and a world championship. Dont care much about the latter, but im all up for some new smash bros anouncements!
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 13, 2015, 03:23:52 am
Whoah...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmo6rFJDFsA&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmo6rFJDFsA&feature=youtu.be)



In case the video gets removed.  Ryu from street fighter joins smash brothers.
A big surprise just got ruined. Must be a huge blow for nintendo. The leaks are out of control this year :\


Edit: You know what, im fucking out. See you till e3 starts
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: TimmiT on June 13, 2015, 07:15:12 am
So this just leaked:

(http://i.imgur.com/MxDDogy.jpg)

A new Transformers game that really looks like something Platinum would make. This would be exciting if it wasn't for Activision. Lots more screenshots here: http://www.purexbox.com/news/2015/06/exclusive_screens_activision_bringing_new_cel-shaded_transformers_title_to_xbox
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Trippled on June 13, 2015, 07:38:58 am
This E3 is being grossly overhyped.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 13, 2015, 08:28:39 am
Man kind of surprised about the cynisism but I guess they've done it to themselves. With Sony back in the lead maybe they can put more variety back on the map. Unless Microsoft surprises the world with their change of focus after Don Mattrick screwing up. I feel like microsoft still hasnt fully come out of the hole they dug.

Nintendo has got me most excited personally. Its always hit and miss with them though. Sometimes the cynisism towards them is legit, and sometimes it feels like Nintendo purposefully screws around with people's minds, just to end up blowing them away. Sony is also good at this.

They're already beginning tomorrow with new smash brothers reveals and a world championship. Dont care much about the latter, but im all up for some new smash bros anouncements!

It's less about cynicism and more about the fact games are getting announced way too early these days. Hard to be excited about Metal Gear Solid and the like when they've been known for over 2 years. I feel the same way even if a game is announced at E3, most won't be released until late next year or even the following year.

Hard to get excited when this has been a generation about delays and long announcements.

In case the video gets removed.  Ryu from street fighter joins smash brothers.
A big surprise just got ruined. Must be a huge blow for nintendo. The leaks are out of control this year :\

Is this what video games have come to that a new DLC character for a already released game is considered a big surprise?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Nirmugen on June 13, 2015, 09:44:06 am
Man, there are more leaked DLC stuff from Smash: VIRTUA FIGHTER Mii Outfits are coming (VF1 Akira and VF5 Jacky)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/13/f091e598b7e8d42c95445182cbf6a9b6.jpg)

The dream is.....real,Mang?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 13, 2015, 09:56:52 am
Me and Mang already talked about it on Skype and laughed together about Virtua Fighter 6 as a Wii U exclusive.

Then we got scared.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Nirmugen on June 13, 2015, 12:24:50 pm
Did you mean that could happen the same fate that Yakuza 1/2 HD in Japan had for the WiiU version?

Well, anything is possible since Nintendo has already lost all their relationships with Western 3rd Party publishers and the only way to have 3rd Party exclusive games us funded them like Bayo 2 or MH4U/MHX.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 13, 2015, 04:09:47 pm
Good cringe way to start E3. Oh Microsoft... thats not what people want VR for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcqf2t8pHJE&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 13, 2015, 06:31:38 pm
Bethesda accidentally revealed Dishonored 2 is a thing a day early. They didn't show any gameplay or images or anything, just the fact it exists.

I'm hoping E3 actually packs a few surprises this year, because all the "leaks" coming out in the last couple days have ruined a good bit of it (ESPECIALLY that Smash leak, goddamn at least one person actually started PLAYING IT on stream, instead of just showing off all the assorted files).
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Happy Cat on June 14, 2015, 08:39:37 am
Good cringe way to start E3. Oh Microsoft... thats not what people want VR for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcqf2t8pHJE&feature=youtu.be

that video is so funny. that 5 or so seconds of awkward silence at the end as he waited for an applause he never got.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: crackdude on June 14, 2015, 02:49:48 pm
Shenmue bitches
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 14, 2015, 05:23:24 pm
CODE RED: MOTHER 1 IS REAL AND IT'S COMING TO THE WEST AS EARTHBOUND BEGINNINGS


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9_xJ_m8IHY&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9_xJ_m8IHY&feature=youtu.be)



this is a rare side of me where i actually care about something from nintendo so enjoy it while it lasts
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Sharky on June 14, 2015, 06:30:58 pm
Is that an old game? Or a new one made on the cheap?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 14, 2015, 06:40:49 pm
Old game, significant in that it never got released outside Japan (even though it was supposed to be and got canned because Super Nintendo happened). It finally being released officially is kind of a huge deal.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Sharky on June 14, 2015, 07:42:24 pm
Ah I see. Interesting!
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 14, 2015, 11:12:50 pm
So unless Nintendo or Sony pulls a rabbit out of their ass and showers the audience and everyone watching in gold, Bethesda won E3 with Doom and Fallout 4 alone. Any thoughts?

i left out microsoft bc honestly who gives a hoot
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 15, 2015, 12:10:55 am
Actually the only conference I care about is MS. I think they'll have the best showing, mainly because they have a lot to prove.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 15, 2015, 03:43:57 am
I have a feeling they are going to embarrass themselves and under deliver.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oQhCGQ27JU
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 15, 2015, 04:24:39 am
The best time of the year man.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: crackdude on June 15, 2015, 04:47:53 am
What about SHENMUE
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 15, 2015, 06:08:17 am
Sony will have Yakuza 5 and possibly (READ DEFINITELY) Shenmue.

Impossible to top. You'd need... clone Yakuza 5 and clone Shenmue to stand a chance.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Happy Cat on June 15, 2015, 06:50:38 am
Sliiconera is saying Sony also has a FFVII remake. Things are about to get interesting today. No doubt MS will have some good stuff, but a lot of Neogaf insiders have been saying for a long time now that PlayStation E3 would be the comeback of Japanese games. It's starting to look like that is true.

Obligatory gif:
(http://i.imgur.com/j1aNa01.gif)

Hype Train isnt even an accurate descriptor anymore for most of the internet it seems. people are going insane.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 15, 2015, 07:49:27 am
I have never been more excited for an E3 until this year. You can FEEL the electricity and hype going around, it's fucking amazing. I love this time of year so much. I wasn't even that excited at all for Sony until the possibility of goddamn SHENMUE arised. I'm still a little cautious, but it's absolutely most definitely Shenmue.

We got four conferences to get to today, so I hope everyone can at least get to a friend watching the conferences and not miss out too much. Consult the guide if you are lost:




(https://40.media.tumblr.com/6e22df6108f81e80e09f6d77a25286b7/tumblr_npy15vcQFQ1qituqxo1_500.png)
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 15, 2015, 07:51:54 am
So unless Nintendo or Sony pulls a rabbit out of their ass and showers the audience and everyone watching in gold, Bethesda won E3 with Doom and Fallout 4 alone. Any thoughts?

i left out microsoft bc honestly who gives a hoot

Doom looks pretty good from the trailer I saw, haven't seen anything of Fallout yet but I heard they fucked the skill system and it's an interracial marriage simulator now.

I'll look up FO4 now.


Meanwhile, Sony conference is at 9PM which is when I'm out. I'll have to try and follow as best I can with patchy wi-fi and asking friends to check updates on their phones or something.

EDIT: Reading details about FO4, I don't really like what I hear.
Mapping dialogue to face buttons, calling in air ships and shooting mini guns from it :/
There is some cool sounding stuff, the dog might work well (but I'm not sold) and the idea of building a house is interesting. Not sure I like the idea of 700+ guns you can mod and tweak at all. I thought part of the charm of Fallout was having guns that worked or didn't work with your character build instead of having literally hundreds of weapons. Like, "Oh that gun looks cool, but my skills in heavy weapons aren't enough to use it. Maybe next playthrough!"
Building a house and decorating it might be fun. Little touches like that are nice.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 15, 2015, 08:08:31 am
^Well it's all optional stuff as they stressed. I didn't hear anything about the skills system at all during the conference, just a brief snippet of character generation where they alloted their SPECIAL. I'm very excited about the idea of gun customization and the completely reworked crafting system sounds pretty cool. It sounds like stuff tooled for certain playstyles, but it's something everyone can do. I imagine the focus is still on different guns on different skills, so you're not gonna be able to go through the game using pistols, then switch to an automatic plasma rifle and be a god with it.

Doom just looked cool, even if the music sounded like ass (seriously, it sounded like bit crushed, slowed down renditions of the 32x version's soundtrack), Hell in particular looked right out of a heavy metal album which I absolutely approve of. It looks like they're taking everything that worked with Doom 3, making it even better, and throwing out all the stuff that didn't work and going back to the drawing board on it.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 15, 2015, 08:14:04 am
Oh I meant to say, the crafting might be similar to packing your own ammunition and making stuff in Fallout New Vegas. I don't think it'll be bad, I'm just not sure how its going to work.
I'm very sceptical about this game in general, so yeah.

Doom 4 I've only seen the trailer, I didn't see the E3 gameplay, which I'll try to track down later today!


Oh, I wonder if Cup Head will get shown! I really want to see that game again!
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 08:26:36 am
E3 2015

Bethesda showcase

Bethesda Conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KApp699WdE

Fallout 4 (released 10th of Nov 2015): http://www.gametrailers.com/games/nvil9d/fallout-4
- There's more Fallout 4 scattered through the conference.

Doom: http://www.gametrailers.com/games/m3408h/doom--2015-

Fallout Shelter: http://www.gametrailers.com/games/ltrv8d/fallout-shelter

Dishonored 2: http://www.gametrailers.com/games/mrz5f5/dishonored-2

Battlecry: http://www.gametrailers.com/games/1rzemd/battlecry

The Elder Scrolls, Legends: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7VQa-sOlz4

The Elder Scrolls Online, Tamriel Unlimited: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0-r4D_Dcw0

Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 08:32:09 am
I can't help but think MS will be the strongest of the three this year. Sony have already confessed to looking weak this E3, Nintendo are in the middle of a rebuild from the Wii u corpse and are just bringing attention to what's already in development. I'm pretty confident in saying this will be the last E3 for the Wii u and we'll probably see some late Wii u games (Zelda, Starfox, maybe even a Splatoon port) on the new hardware.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 15, 2015, 08:36:28 am
I can't help but think MS will be the strongest of the three this year. Sony have already confessed to looking weak this E3, Nintendo are in the middle of a rebuild from the Wii u corpse and are just bringing attention to what's already in development. I'm pretty confident in saying this will be the last E3 for the Wii u and we'll probably see some late Wii u games (Zelda, Starfox, maybe even a Splatoon port) on the new hardware.

Sony has Shenmue III though.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 08:58:30 am
Just seen this rumour reappear, where's it come from this time?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: crackdude on June 15, 2015, 08:59:55 am
https://twitter.com/SumoDigitalLtd/status/610444196969861120

#DONTSTOPBELIEVING
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 09:16:31 am
If they did announce it mind, it should be like this.

(http://33.media.tumblr.com/8642075103c54ee6eae9bb3808377121/tumblr_noenylQkFh1s8njeuo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: JRcade19 on June 15, 2015, 09:23:46 am
DOOM has me conflicted.

Likes:
Level Aesthetics. Something, Doom 3 ish, straight out of hell, absolutely breath taking.
Multiple uses for the environment from tactical standpoints and exploration potential.
Power armor with Metroid Esque Double jump useful for the above

Dislikes:
Health drops. Seriously, these things are everywhere in the demo.
Cinematic Kills. If you want to try and rip off Brutal Doom, you should have the courtesy to not put giant "PLS KILL ME I'M READY TO DIE" lighting on every single enemy. It's stupid, ugly and ruins the immersion.
Radial wheel. I hope this feature is specific to controllers, because it will only be annoying as all hell and unnecessary with a KB+M combo.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 15, 2015, 09:26:58 am
Pretty sure weapon wheel will be for Console only.
He was probably also playing the game on babby mode easy for the demo, so the health won't be so prevalent.

I don't like that he has Mister Chief armour. I want the old school look.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 09:30:59 am
It won't be like that in the final version. This was clearly scripted to the point where your characters was completely dominating with ease.

My only real complaint was the Mortal Kombat X disgusting level of brutality. I'm not against violence in games, but MKX completely crossed the line for me as it was so detailed. This isn't as bad, but still...
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: crackdude on June 15, 2015, 09:42:53 am
God of War was way worse
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 15, 2015, 09:56:44 am
I'm a gorehound so I absolutely loved the amount of gore in the game. They got that right most definitely.

I think the health drops are kind of a mix between classic health kits and regenerating health, the guy playing made it look like it'd be easy to screw up and lose a ton of health (I think he went from like 50 to 15 HP from one rocket to the face). You'll notice that only killing enemies and picking up the dropped bits restored health, it's kind of like Blood in that regard. So you might not be scrambling for health pickups like the old games (not that I ever minded), but you're not gonna be able to just sit around and wait for it to come back.

I totally wouldn't be surprised if the stuff shown off was levels built specifically for E3 or stuff that IS in the game, but modified for the demo. It definitely felt very scripted.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 10:08:37 am
God of War was way worse

Can't say I've ever played it as it never interested me. Although, aren't you further away in Gow as it's third person? Maybe this just looks worse cause it's first person and very close.

Still, I guess it caters to the B-movie silly gore sort of crowed.

I'm not too familiar with Doom law, but it looked to me as though your character was incredibly strong physically like a super solider. Which kind of took away the horror element that Doom 3 had.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 15, 2015, 11:09:47 am
Can't say I've ever played it as it never interested me. Although, aren't you further away in Gow as it's third person? Maybe this just looks worse cause it's first person and very close.

Still, I guess it caters to the B-movie silly gore sort of crowed.

I'm not too familiar with Doom law, but it looked to me as though your character was incredibly strong physically like a super solider. Which kind of took away the horror element that Doom 3 had.

Doom 3 had the horror element, which was a huge departure from the earlier games, which were all about RIP AND TEAR, YOU ARE HUGE YOU HAVE HUGE GUUUUUTS.

The first two games were basically inspired by heavy metal and just being one bad dude tearing up the legions of hell.
There is no explicit 'He's super strong' moments, but he's a dude that can literally punch demons to death, carry a gatling gun and dodge rockets. But he can't jump.

E1M1 needs to make an appearance in some form in this game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSsfjHCFosw
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 15, 2015, 11:50:32 am
xbox one lack of backwards compatibility was the thing that stopped one of my brothers  to get the One. When I told him it lacked the feature he was really dissapointed. I think this backwards compatibility anouncement is gonna make him really happy. The fact you can download the titles you got on disc is fucking amazing
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: JRcade19 on June 15, 2015, 11:57:59 am
PSNow basically just got destroyed in a matter of seconds.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 15, 2015, 12:02:12 pm
PSNow basically just got destroyed in a matter of seconds.
lmfao. so true
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 15, 2015, 12:18:29 pm
Brutal Doom's creator chimes in:
(http://i.imgur.com/ps6W2kj.png)
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 15, 2015, 12:31:49 pm
Oh, when would SFV get more information? I'm guessing during the Sony conference?

I really want to get my Birdie reveal dammit!


(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100903123836/streetfighter/images/3/3f/Birdie-haircut.gif)
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 15, 2015, 12:32:28 pm

Street Fighter V is PS4 and PC exclusive. So yea, Sony's presser.

I don't see how 'Playstation Now' is being destroyed at all. I honestly thought it was its own niche thing and can co-exist even if they announce bc on PS4. I honestly don't care about the feature much. I just wanted to play my XBLA/PSN titles on PS4/Xbone.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 15, 2015, 01:03:44 pm
Street Fighter V is PS4 and PC exclusive. So yea, Sony's presser.

I don't see how 'Playstation Now' is being destroyed at all. I honestly thought it was its own niche thing and can co-exist even if they announce bc on PS4. I honestly don't care about the feature much. I just wanted to play my XBLA/PSN titles on PS4/Xbone.
Well its on the ps4 so owners of ps4 only will probably go with ps Now. So yeah not destroyed. But having both im sure a lot of people would go with owning a game without the cons of stream (possibly losing quality or connection entirely). It just seems like a waste of investment imo. But yeah not really important in the big picture probably.

The Xbox conference in my opinion sucked. I hoped to see some variety but they really like the "usual stuff". It seems they think aiming at the mainstream is what they should be doing. Personally I dont know if thats a good thing. Most people will probably love what theyve shown, but its too safe for my taste. The more interesting stuff was sparse and far in between. Also the CG trailers didnt do a lot of the titles justice. Hopefully this wont be part of the other conferences or else i may be skipping them untill sony's.

Sorry microsoft but im not sold on the One after this. But thats just me. Someone who leans more towards nintendo stuff most of the time so its probably expected for someone like me.

Greatest line up my ass.

Only pro is that they had many 2015 exclusive games. Something Sony doesnt do often. Hope Sony breaks that tradition as well this year. I dont care for a shenmue 3 anouncement if im gonna wait till >2018. Would be something if the last guardian actually shows up and releases near the conference
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 15, 2015, 01:05:02 pm
No Scalebound = No Interest.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 15, 2015, 01:08:29 pm
I agree, we don't know what Sony has yet. Let's not get ahead of ourselves yet.

Whats up with these new games? Gears 4, Tomb Raider gameplay demos basically almost put me to sleep. Like it was just like the last game... why not show me whats new in the franchises and what your doing gameplay wise to keep it fresh? I know you guys got new graphics, but what makes the games worth getting excited for?

Also all these indie games using desert wasteland design over and over again are starting to blend together. I get it, you guys want to be like Team Andromeda and Team Ico in terms of art style. Great.

Also: I'm not getting a Xbone for 360 emulated games. If its anything like 360 emulation, its going to tick me off when it doesn't play it 100%. I guess thats why I have a 360.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 15, 2015, 01:20:17 pm
Ashen looked like the laziest piece of shit I've ever seen. It's just "stereotypical indie graphic adventure game....BUT NOW IN 3D!" It looks so bland, more bland than the other bland shit they had. I get they wanna be artsy and have a simple art style, but there's a difference between a simple art style and just being fucking lazy. Draw a goddamn face on your characters, you bums.

I still don't see the point of Bethesda, Ubisoft, and EA being there. They all have their own conferences, just show off your shit there.

The only interesting part of it that got me excited was Sea of Thieves, Rare's new game. And even then, it's only because it's a pirate game, and there aren't many good pirate games out there. Even then, I was completely ready to write it off when the trailer started because it just plain looked like every other game at E3. But then there was a pirate ship and it got my attention. Looking forward to hearing more about that.

Everything else was meh. Except the Minecraft part where they showed off the VR and had the world on a table. I genuinely thought I was hallucinating because I wasn't paying attention. That IS pretty cool, I must say.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 15, 2015, 01:24:08 pm
Hope Sony breaks that tradition as well this year. I dont care for a shenmue 3 anouncement if im gonna wait till >2018. Would be something if the last guardian actually shows up and releases near the conference

Get out.

You will care even if you have to wait until 2028. YOU WILL.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 15, 2015, 01:24:57 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TjUPXAn2Rg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TjUPXAn2Rg)






I have been waiting for this one for a while.
I love love love the look of this game, and it looks like it'll be a fun 2D shooter too!
I just don't like the potentially 2edgy4me storyline :/
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 15, 2015, 01:25:39 pm
At least the show wasn't boring and was really well paced. Even if like 60% of the games are 3rd party and 'more of the same' of last gen. It really felt like all they did was try to get their old Xbox 360 crowd to buy Xbone systems instead of getting a new audience.

Everything felt like "This is 360 deja vu'

Cuphead did look awesome but I'll get it on PC. I like that they admit on their site that they are inspired by Treasure, Konami and stuff.

"Cuphead is a 2D Run 'n' Gun extravaganza set in the style of a fighting game universe. Inspired by cartoons of the 1930s along with Treasure, Konami and .."

They removed it tho, it is part of their description on Google.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 15, 2015, 01:28:54 pm
Oh yeah, Cuphead looked fantastic. Still multiplat too, thank god. I'm all over that, it looks gorgeous.

But that's all I can say about it. It LOOKED gorgeous. I'm interested in how it plays, and right now it looks a lot like Rayman Origins, which I'm totally fine with.


EDIT: Oh, it's a run n' gun? Neat!
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 15, 2015, 01:31:19 pm
Oh yeah, Cuphead looked fantastic. Still multiplat too, thank god. I'm all over that, it looks gorgeous.

But that's all I can say about it. It LOOKED gorgeous. I'm interested in how it plays, and right now it looks a lot like Rayman Origins, which I'm totally fine with.


EDIT: Oh, it's a run n' gun? Neat!

lol, where did you get Rayman from?
But yeah, I'm thinking it's closest to maybe Gunstar Heroes?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 15, 2015, 01:31:44 pm
Yes, Run n Gunning is back. I'm glad that the game is getting the most press right now out if all the indies showed. Cuz the other ones sorta looked like garbage indie artsy style that is really killing my hype about indie games.

"Oh look, a cartoon artsitic look where you walk in a desert with really nice music without much gameplay."
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 15, 2015, 01:34:33 pm
lol, where did you get Rayman from?
But yeah, I'm thinking it's closest to maybe Gunstar Heroes?

I dunno where I got Rayman from honestly. I think when I see hand-drawn 2D platformers my mind just immediately goes Rayman, i dunno.

I still need to play Gunstar Heroes...
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 15, 2015, 01:44:01 pm
I dunno where I got Rayman from honestly. I think when I see hand-drawn 2D platformers my mind just immediately goes Rayman, i dunno.

I still need to play Gunstar Heroes...

I think you can get it on Steam, it's very good.


Here we go, and it's 50% off:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/71117/
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 15, 2015, 01:49:51 pm
Oooh, nice! I'll see about picking it, $1.49 sounds really good for this.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 01:54:07 pm
Xbox One conference:

Halo 5: Guardians - exclusive 
Recore - exclusive 
Fallout 4 - Fallout 3 included free due to Xbox one's BC
Plants vs Zombies Garden Warfare 2
Forza 6 - exclusive 
Dark Souls 3
Tom Clancy's The Division (Exclusive beta)
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege (exclusive beta) (1 and 2 free due to BC) 
Gigtantic
indie montage
Focused indie titles: 
Cuphead
Tacoma
Ashen
Beyond Eyes
Ion
Rise of Tomb Raiders (timed exclusive?)
Rare Replay - exclusive 
Sea of Thieves - exclusive 
Fable Legends - exclusive 
Gears of War Ultimate Edition - exclusive 
Gears of War 4 - exclusive 

Other:

Backwards compatibility with 360 games 
Elite customisable xbox one controller
EA Access, Dragon Age and Titanfall coming
Early Access coming to Xbox one
Oculus comes with xbox one controller and will work with Xbox one and Hololens.

Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 15, 2015, 01:56:22 pm
The microsoft conference really didnt do anything for me. I was genuinly waiting for it. Like I really wanted to get an xbox One while watching the conference but I think it did  the exact opposite for me. It wasnt just the content, it was also the general attitude. I dont like their way of presenting things. Its all so predictable and safe. So unspontaneous and lacking any charisma and likability. For using the word passion so much, there's very little of it.. I find the people representing their brand to be important nowadays because it tells me a lot about the general company mentality. And microsoft's just isnt the one I feel attracted towards. I thought things might have changed but there needs to be a bigger shake up if this is what they decided to gather and felt confident about describing it as xbox's best line up year. No, just no

Get out.

You will care even if you have to wait until 2028. YOU WILL.
Lol damn. I guess shenmue is exception worthy. But seriously though, perfect scenario. Gameplay is shown and release for 2016. *fingers crossed*(aint gonna happen i know XD)
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 02:18:03 pm
For me:

Recore/ Sea of Thieves - nice clips, nothing to show about the game so can't say.
Rare Replay - Yup. I'd buy that straight away.
Halo 5 - nice to see them trying to do something different with it and I'm sure it will be fun. It's a series I can take or leave, no real connection for me though.

Backwards compatibility was key in this. MS didn't have much to show in terms of gameplay, so like the last two years, they're expecting us to keep playing older games or remasters till they're ready.


EA next! Less then an hour to go now.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 15, 2015, 02:18:54 pm
Also i'm a huge halo fan and halo 5 guardians looks like another 343 studios game that doesnt feel like a halo game at all. I didnt play halo 4 but reliable people close to me told me that it never felt the same like bungie's games, so I ignored it. And now today the gameplay shown at the beginning for halo 5 did nothing for me either. Really sad because halo played a huge part in why i liked xbox so much. Also one of the most important features, couch co op is also removed. Something that played a huge part in why we love the franchise. It was basically the best part of the games for us. Its disturbing how more unappealing they keep making themselves to me.

Sorry if im being a debbie downer. I wanted to like this. Someone wanted me to get the One real bad, and I had been thinking about it a lot lately. But I think I may have to tell this person that he may want to replace it with a Ps4 instead. I think that'd suit him much better after seeing this conference.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 02:26:48 pm
I'd wait till we see what PS4 brings first. They've already said they're looking "sparse" this E3.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 15, 2015, 02:29:30 pm
Also this game wasn't getting the attention it deserves. One of the few new in-house IPs by Microsoft and its a Rare game. Viva Pinata was awesome, I'm looking forward to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z48qvGsA_0
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 15, 2015, 02:35:21 pm
I'd wait till we see what PS4 brings first. They've already said they're looking "sparse" this E3.
Sure thing. But I think its likely gonna be  the case that i'll end up telling him that. What dissapoints me is that it doesnt feel like there's a real competition. Micrososft needed a much much better showing with the situation right now.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 15, 2015, 02:51:03 pm
Well Final Fantasy VII remake is basically confirmed, so there is that.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 15, 2015, 03:02:43 pm
Looks like I'm sitting EA out, which is a shame, I was hoping to hear more about Mirror's Edge: Catalyst. I can't find a working stream that also lets me see what's happening (the only stable one is the YouTube stream which defaults to 144p and freezes at anything higher). And no, it's not a net issue, everything else is working fine.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Emmett The Crab on June 15, 2015, 03:06:01 pm
I don't have time to watch h the Microsoft E3 announcement.  Can someone explain to me how the XBOX ONE backwards compatibility works?  I saw a Facebook ad for it.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 03:14:03 pm
I'm using youtube and it's fine for me. I'll tell you what's happening if you like?

Before EA started, Tomb Raider was announced for Nov 10th on Xbox One...same day as Fallout 4 :/

The backwards compatibility will be available for previewers first, then all xbox one users later. You're 360 downloaded games will carry over from your account. If you put the game disk in, it will download it too.

It works for over 100 games already.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 15, 2015, 03:16:11 pm
Just keep me posted on Mirror's Edge, that's all I really care about at the moment.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 15, 2015, 03:17:02 pm
I'll be interested to see what 1st party games Sony will be showing.

People criticized MS a lot in that department, but I think they had a strong showing.

Not even a remake of FF7 is enough to get me to buy a PS4, let's hope Sony doesn't just rely on others to do the work for em.

Xbox is a strong contender with what they just showed off.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 03:18:30 pm
Just keep me posted on Mirror's Edge, that's all I really care about at the moment.

Will do. ;)
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 03:26:45 pm
A guy in a giant zombie superhero costume just walked on doing muscle man poses...I didn't imagine that right?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 15, 2015, 03:35:07 pm
Seriously though Xbox backwards compatibility just stabbed Sony in the heart.

Best part: we won't charge you to play games you already ow


Hahaha
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Dr. SEGA Monkey on June 15, 2015, 03:41:28 pm

To be honest, the Xbox One backwards compatibility thing is pretty much the only reason I have any kind of interest in the console now. I have so many 360 games and was incredibly disappointed that the One was launched with no BC at all.

Also i'm a huge halo fan and halo 5 guardians looks like another 343 studios game that doesnt feel like a halo game at all.


While I think the game overall looks pretty cool, I'll have to agree with this for the atmosphere and story. It almost feels like a totally different sci-fi franchise.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 15, 2015, 03:48:09 pm
A guy in a giant zombie superhero costume just walked on doing muscle man poses...I didn't imagine that right?

TELL ME MORE.

Is Sea of Thieves an MMO? :/
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 03:54:13 pm
No idea. Maybe..SoT definitely had online, that's for sure.

EA have managed to make the sports section better. By introducing the mobile section. Those at the back of the room may wish to sneak out now.

They've also brought on Pele...because.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Randroid on June 15, 2015, 04:02:22 pm
Mirror's Edge starting now.

http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/12/8774045/watch-electronic-arts-e3-press-conference-live-right-here
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 04:03:55 pm
Right here we go. Mirror's edge.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 15, 2015, 04:04:41 pm
Gotta love all of the haters who wanted a Rareware title, get one and now complain, but it's an mmo. Cry me a fucken river people.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 04:07:09 pm
Mirror's Edge:

No loading, no levels, massive city, time trials, challenges, environmental puzzles, combat still there and playable at E3 and release date February 23rd 2016.

The antagonist is called Gabriel and he wants control over the city via security. This game tells the story of how the other Mirror's edge came to be.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 04:10:16 pm
Gotta love all of the haters who wanted a Rareware title, get one and now complain, but it's an mmo. Cry me a fucken river people.

Meh, I can see what they mean, but it's too early to tell what it's like yet. We've seen nothing. Still, we've got Yooka-Laylee; )
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 15, 2015, 04:11:07 pm
Mirror's Edge:

No loading, no levels, massive city, time trials, challenges, environmental puzzles, playable at E3 and release date February 23rd 2016.

The antagonist is called Gabriel and he wants control over the city via security. This game tells the story of how the other Mirror's edge came to be.

Holy shiiiiiiiiiIIIIIIITTTTTTTTT
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 15, 2015, 04:25:43 pm
Well Final Fantasy VII remake is basically confirmed, so there is that.
What the hell is happening
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Dr. SEGA Monkey on June 15, 2015, 04:28:48 pm
I think that new Rare game seems pretty cool, but it was always quite obvious that any new game they come out with will never have the same vibe their older games had. They are just a completely different team of people now.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 15, 2015, 04:37:51 pm
I just don't understand why people are happy that they can play 100 Xbox 360 games through a emulator on their Xbox One. Why do you want a 350 dollar Xbox 360 emulator? You know what plays Xbox 360 at a fraction of $350 dollars?

A Xbox 360. Get this, you can find them for as little as a $100 used and they play 100% of over 1,000 released titles.

Yeah, I know. Crazy.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 15, 2015, 04:41:43 pm
Shenmue and Final Fantasy?

This will be LEGENDARY.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 15, 2015, 04:49:12 pm

While I think the game overall looks pretty cool, I'll have to agree with this for the atmosphere and story. It almost feels like a totally different sci-fi franchise.
Removing couch co op is one of the most criminal things they could've done. What a bunch of fools
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 04:52:30 pm
Don't want to be negative, but people might be heading into a huge deflation if they carry on. HL3, FF7, TLG, BG&E2 and Shenmue are up there as the most wanted games out there and they're assuming 2(maybe even 3)of them will be in the show...
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 15, 2015, 04:54:29 pm
I just don't understand why people are happy that they can play 100 Xbox 360 games through a emulator on their Xbox One. Why do you want a 350 dollar Xbox 360 emulator? You know what plays Xbox 360 at a fraction of $350 dollars?

A Xbox 360. Get this, you can find them for as little as a $100 used and they play 100% of over 1,000 released titles.

Yeah, I know. Crazy.

Well, it certainly destroys PS Now and I think that's what the whole point of this announcement is.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 15, 2015, 04:57:10 pm
Don't want to be negative, but people might be heading into a huge deflation if they carry on. HL3, FF7, TLG, BG&E2 and Shenmue are up there as the most wanted games out there and they're assuming 2(maybe even 3)of them will be in the show...

We all know these have as much of a chance of happening as pigs flying. Half the fun of E3 is speculation and hype, after all!


Ubisoft begins in a few, looks like I'll be able to tune into this one. Fingers crossed for Beyond Good and Evil and Rayman!
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 05:02:56 pm
New south park! :)
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 15, 2015, 05:04:54 pm
"We're gonna get deep in your buttwhole" this is already unbearable.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 15, 2015, 05:05:08 pm
Don't want to be negative, but people might be heading into a huge deflation if they carry on. HL3, FF7, TLG, BG&E2 and Shenmue are up there as the most wanted games out there and they're assuming 2(maybe even 3)of them will be in the show...

I actually don't care about the Final Fantasy series so I don't care about the remake.

But Shenmue is definitely happening. BELIEVE.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 15, 2015, 05:09:50 pm
I actually don't care about the Final Fantasy series so I don't care about the remake.

But Shenmue is definitely happening. BELIEVE.
I hope final fantasy 7 remake captures the charm of the original well. Final fantasy has changed a lot since then and has become a lot more based on reality instead of the more cartoony presentation. If it all goes well id defenitly recommend starting the franchise there.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 15, 2015, 05:11:11 pm
I hope final fantasy 7 remake captures the charm of the original well. Final fantasy has changed a lot since then and has become a lot more based on reality instead of the more cartoony presentation. If it all goes well id defenitly recommend starting the franchise there.

Why recommend it, I usually hate RPGs :p
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 15, 2015, 05:13:15 pm
I like this guy presenting For Honor. He LOOKS like a game designer, he's got that Tim Shafer thing going on.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Dr. SEGA Monkey on June 15, 2015, 05:18:08 pm

Removing couch co op is one of the most criminal things they could've done. What a bunch of fools
Also terrible, but unfortunately this is what a lot of big games are doing nowadays, so it wasn't a total shock.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: JRcade19 on June 15, 2015, 05:20:57 pm
Wanted to make a separate thread, but didn't know if it would be unnecessary considering this one

But Star wars Battelfront made it's gameplay Debut:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXU5k4U8x20
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 15, 2015, 05:21:23 pm
Why recommend it, I usually hate RPGs :p
Hmmm. well that's a tough one then lol. But to answer your question, its just a fun ride I guess? Its a lot faster paced and streamlined than most FF games. Also the setting,story and music is really fantastic. It might be nostalgia. But I remember going from pokemon, to grandia 2(DC), Skies of arcadia, and then late to the party with ff7 and finding it really special. But yeah, its... an JRPG in the most pure form lol.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Emmett The Crab on June 15, 2015, 05:23:12 pm
Okay, so how does BC work on the XBOX One?  Is it a hardware attachement, or a software update, or do you have to download all the games from XBLA?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 15, 2015, 05:28:38 pm
Okay, so how does BC work on the XBOX One?  Is it a hardware attachement, or a software update, or do you have to download all the games from XBLA?
Im guessing its microsoft being tech/code wizards? Also they dont have to deal with weird architectures like sony with ps3
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Emmett The Crab on June 15, 2015, 05:29:59 pm
The BC was really hard from XBOX games to 360 so they just gave up on it after a while.  It was also wonky a little. 


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Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 15, 2015, 06:07:16 pm
Well Ubisoft was extremely disappointing.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 06:20:29 pm
Ubisoft Conference

South Park, The Fractured but Whole
For Honor
The Division
Anno 2205 - release November
Just Dance 2016
Rainbow Six Siege
Trackmania
Assassins Creed Syndicate
Ghost Recon Wildlands

Other:
The Crew and Trials are getting expansion packs
Just dance unlimited Streaming Service
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 15, 2015, 06:22:09 pm
Well, it certainly destroys PS Now and I think that's what the whole point of this announcement is.
Who cares about either of them? Why are people so crazy about playing 360 and Playstation 3 games? I'm in a new generation, I want new games and experiences.

The only thing I want is to play my whole XBLA/PSN games on PS4/Xbone, after that I don't care.


Ubisoft is always a let down. No Rayman, no carez.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 06:22:41 pm
South Park the only game that had me interested there.

No BG&E2. It seems they'd rather spend the money on CGI trailers instead sadly. *sigh*
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: JRcade19 on June 15, 2015, 06:24:36 pm
Rainbow Six
Division
ANNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
and Track Mania get my love.

Going to have to catch up on Ghost Recon tho
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 15, 2015, 06:26:50 pm
Rare's Sea of Thieves is coming to Xbone and..... PC! Fuck yes. I'm totally picking it up:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/06/rare-announces-swashbuckling-sea-of-thieves-exclusively-for-xbox-one/
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 06:27:57 pm
Can someone remind me what Ass Creed we're on now? Is it 20001 or 20002?

Oh and I mean this year. Not overall.

While we're at it, how many "tactical" shooters was that? 3?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 15, 2015, 06:38:24 pm
There are a ton of Assassin Creed games, like a shit load:

http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Assassin's_Creed_(series)
http://www.giantbomb.com/assassins-creed/3025-38/games/
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Dr. SEGA Monkey on June 15, 2015, 06:41:38 pm

Who cares about either of them? Why are people so crazy about playing 360 and Playstation 3 games? I'm in a new generation, I want new games and experiences.

The only thing I want is to play my whole XBLA/PSN games on PS4/Xbone, after that I don't care.

What's the difference? The downloadable games are still last-gen. Why would you want to only play your XBLA stuff when you have an entire library of disc based games to play as well? ???
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 15, 2015, 06:47:41 pm
What's the difference? The downloadable games are still last-gen. Why would you want to only play your XBLA stuff when you have an entire library of disc based games to play as well? ???
Just what I want, problem? HUH, you gonna hassle me for having hopes and dreams? You one of them bullies I hear about?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Emmett The Crab on June 15, 2015, 07:13:17 pm
George, some of us want our old games, and I've run out of shelf space. 
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 15, 2015, 07:36:25 pm
Well, enjoy playing your 100 selected Microsoft Xbox 360 games through a inferior experience via Xbox One this winter. It will never be better than native hardware.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Emmett The Crab on June 15, 2015, 08:35:01 pm
It's only 100 games?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Dr. SEGA Monkey on June 15, 2015, 08:40:55 pm
It's 100 games when it first becomes available, and then more and more added as time goes on. Similar to how backwards compatibility was handled on the 360.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Randroid on June 15, 2015, 08:51:39 pm
HOLY SHIT
ITS HAPPENING!!!
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 15, 2015, 09:02:30 pm
SONY WINS

SHENMUE III IS REAL
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 15, 2015, 09:04:55 pm
Did they confirm it's exclusive?

Kickstarter fund?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 15, 2015, 09:07:00 pm
It's PC and PS4 exclusive.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 09:42:09 pm
Sony Conference

The Last Guardian - exclusive
Horizon - exclusive
Hitman - exclusive beta
Street Fighter - Console exclusive
No man's Sky - PS4 first
Dreams - exclusive
Firewatch - PS4 First
Destiny DLC, The Taken King - exclusive
Assassins Creed Syndicate - exclusive content
World of Final Fantasy - exclusive
Final Fantasy 7 remake - PS4 first
4 Devolver Digital games
Indie titles
Shenmue 3 kickstarter announced
Batman Arkham Night - exclusive content
Cod: Black ops 3 - exclusive DLC first
Project Morpheus at E3
Uncharted Collection
Until Dawn
Disney Infinite, Star Wars
Star Wars Battefront
Uncharted 4 - exclusive
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 15, 2015, 10:00:34 pm
How many people here where talking shit saying that Microsoft won because they can play 100 Xbox 360 games on their Xbox One?

Must be a really cool console if that's a selling feature.

Sony is doing it right.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 15, 2015, 10:13:40 pm
No one said that. Most of the big PS4 announcement aren't even exclusive. FF7 and Shenmue stole the show, no doubt, but they'll both be on PC.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 15, 2015, 10:31:05 pm
You do know that all of Microsoft's games will be on PC? Right? Rare's new game is already announced on PC....
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 15, 2015, 10:48:21 pm
I understand that and it has everything to do with MS promoting Windows 10.

I just find it funny that the net is blowing up over games that will probably be released in 10 years. At least all of MS' games have release dates.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 15, 2015, 11:00:05 pm
I wonder what Nintendo has for us :)
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Shigs on June 15, 2015, 11:12:43 pm
Sony, making dream games come true. They won fucking big time with only 3 games. Incredible.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 15, 2015, 11:14:47 pm
Nintendo will only win me over if they announce Mother 3 is coming to the west. That's it, that's the only thing they can possibly do that will be able to come CLOSE to tonight.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 15, 2015, 11:19:27 pm
Th...that did just happen right? Please tell me I wasn't dreaming?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 15, 2015, 11:22:37 pm
The dream...is REAL, Tad.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: segaismysavior on June 15, 2015, 11:22:44 pm
If there's a new Metroid and Half-Life 3 announced in the next few days, then I'm afraid there's no reason to bother with having an E3 after this year... what would be the point?

I can't even realistically imagine what Nintendo could have for tomorrow that's gonna make a dent after today. Poor bastards.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 15, 2015, 11:26:19 pm
http://kotaku.com/final-fantasy-vii-remake-announced-for-ps4-1711559466

As I thought, FF7 is probably like 6-10 years away. Could come to XOne as well.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 15, 2015, 11:43:48 pm
I'll be honest and say I'm very "eh" on FF7 remake. I actually own a physical PSX copy of the game (and non-Greatest Hits edition, too), and I've maybe played a half-hour of it. JRPG's aren't my thing, and 7 wasn't really changing my opinion. I like the atmosphere, and the art design, but the writing was hammy (and not in a good way), the battles are typical, and it felt...clunky. My Final Fantasy of choice will always be 9, but I'm glad a lot of people are happy about this!


Plus, it did kind of reformat my memory card when I saved and that pissed me off to no end...

Also World of Final Fantasy looks really cute, just sayin'.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 15, 2015, 11:49:57 pm
Yeah, especially if you played Final Fantasy VI and Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy VII isn't anything special. The thing is, its the first RPG to hit mainstream appeal, so people have nostalgic feelings towards it.

Even as a kid I wasn't all that into the writing. But again Shenmue has some issues in that department as well.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 16, 2015, 12:41:05 am
The Last Guardian, Horizon and Uncharted 4 aren't coming to PC.

Th...that did just happen right? Please tell me I wasn't dreaming?

Ye of little faith.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 16, 2015, 12:49:24 am
Sony Conference

The Last Guardian - exclusive
Horizon - exclusive
Hitman - exclusive beta
Street Fighter - Console exclusive
No man's Sky - PS4 first
Dreams - exclusive
Firewatch - PS4 First
Destiny DLC, The Taken King - exclusive
Assassins Creed Syndicate - exclusive content
World of Final Fantasy - exclusive
Final Fantasy 7 remake - PS4 first
4 Devolver Digital games
Indie titles
Shenmue 3 kickstarter announced
Batman Arkham Night - exclusive content
Cod: Black ops 3 - exclusive DLC first
Project Morpheus at E3
Uncharted Collection
Until Dawn
Disney Infinite, Star Wars
Star Wars Battefront
Uncharted 4 - exclusive
Yesterday i wondered why you were doing this. I fell asleep yesterday and missed it all so I wanna say thanks alot! Sounds like the 3 most exciting reveals were alrrady leaked. Basically, well done sony in delivering the goods. Must have been an amazing conferrnce!

Edit: Wait so aside from the usual suspects and ecpected reveals. Which games in the list had a good impression on you guys?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 16, 2015, 12:53:27 am
I wonder what Nintendo has for us :)
Man the chills. They could really nail it if the dream scenario happens like with sony.

Honestly it feels like sony took all dreams and just decided to make them true. Lovely at first thought, but I really hope every game ends up making the dream true.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Trippled on June 16, 2015, 02:35:59 am
So this is the E3 were urban legends come forth huh...
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 16, 2015, 03:07:52 am
Here is what I liked at Sony's show:

The Last Guardian - exclusive
Horizon - exclusive
Street Fighter V- Console exclusive
No man's Sky - PS4 first
Firewatch - PS4 First
Shenmue 3 kickstarter announced
Star Wars Battefront
Uncharted 4 - exclusive
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 16, 2015, 04:15:30 am
Just checked out horizon... wow. Love the setting!

I think if I had to describe it from a console war perspective, Sony won the gamers/fanatics, while Microsoft may have gone more for the mainstream market. I wonder which of the 2 will have a bigger effect in the market space. Because the things fanatics love and are passionate about isnt always what sells. IE shenmue 3, last guardian. I wonder if final fantasy still has mainstream apeal. I mean it is a shadow of the juggernaut it once was. However Final fantasy 7 was a huge succes on the ps1.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 16, 2015, 04:18:24 am
Microsoft seemed to be going for Xbox 360 owners. Gears of War remake, Backwards compatibility, Halo 5, Forza 6, Gears of War 4 and so forth.


The real winner of E3 2015:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCmPGCwF9TU
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 16, 2015, 04:22:08 am
Did he say get outta here at the end? XD

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXLZvsSmBIs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXLZvsSmBIs)



Wow, this is truly my kind of game through and through.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 16, 2015, 04:31:26 am
Yes, he did. Also I'm so happy we got the Last Guardian again and Shenmue 3. I know that animal in the game is going to die :(
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 16, 2015, 09:23:41 am
Really busy today (yay moving...) so I may not be able to tune into Nintendo and Squeenix's conferences. Nintendo NX was supposedly leaked but I don't buy it. It's too early for them to be talking about their new console and exactly what it is.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: segaismysavior on June 16, 2015, 09:47:16 am
Yay for XOne: Backwards compatibility, the indie games, Recore, and Rare's compilation plus new game.

Yay for PS4: The Last Guardian, Horizon, No man's Sky, Firewatch, Shenmue 3, Uncharted 4, The Witness, Abzu.

I need a second and third job. :(
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 16, 2015, 10:21:19 am
These are exciting times. Hope Nintendo delivers
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 16, 2015, 11:50:38 am
I just don't understand why people are happy that they can play 100 Xbox 360 games through a emulator on their Xbox One. Why do you want a 350 dollar Xbox 360 emulator? You know what plays Xbox 360 at a fraction of $350 dollars?
It's just something that's nice to have so you don't need to have two consoles hooked up at once. Not to mention as time goes on and Xbox 360s are less common to be bought or plugged in, it's nice to have the ability to easily play the games.

It's one of things I like about PC, I can still play games from fifteen years ago with little to no hassle.

Weren't you yourself arguing to TA that this is a major plus point for PC gaming?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 16, 2015, 11:53:07 am
Nintendo's E3 was pretty bad. At least they stressed it was a transitional year.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Radrappy on June 16, 2015, 11:55:20 am
That was fucking awful.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 16, 2015, 11:55:33 am
From the sounds of it, Nintendo was super underwhelming. I missed most of it because I thought it was starting WAY later than it actually did, so I don't have a first-hand account. I guess all the REALLY big, new stuff was for the NWC and Smash Direct. The only brand new thing I heard is a Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi crossover. Star Fox looks cool at least.


Squeenix is starting right now apparently.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 16, 2015, 11:58:26 am
That was horrible hahahahahaha
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Dr. SEGA Monkey on June 16, 2015, 11:59:16 am
That was pretty brutal.  :-\
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Radrappy on June 16, 2015, 12:02:42 pm
I mean, I understand that games take years to make so it's only natural that some years are slow but goddamn.  At least announce some tantalizing things.  The biggest slap in the face was that Metroid "federation force" game.  Not only did it look uninspired but it heavily implied that the Prime games aren't even canon which is a bitchy thing to do. 
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 16, 2015, 12:04:06 pm
Hahaha, what did I miss?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 16, 2015, 12:05:16 pm
Not even anything on Zelda Wii U.

Absolutely horrible showing from them this year, if you're finding it hard to top EA you know you've got serious problems. The Wii U's funeral is well under way ladies and gentlemen.

I mean, I understand that games take years to make so it's only natural that some years are slow but goddamn.  At least announce some tantalizing things.  The biggest slap in the face was that Metroid "federation force" game.  Not only did it look uninspired but it heavily implied that the Prime games aren't even canon which is a bitchy thing to do. 

Wait when was it implied the Prime games aren't canon? Does that mean Other M is canon but not Prime?

Cause if that's the case fuck Nintendo for ruining one of gaming's greatest protagonist and for shitting on Metroid fans. I've patiently waited for a new Metroid game and I get an enormous slap in the face.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 16, 2015, 12:06:33 pm
Oh WOW, Federation Forge looks like shit. They really don't know what to do with Metroid do they? Well I know a lot of people are gonna be pissed about this.

Squeenix is sure takin it's time...
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 16, 2015, 12:07:02 pm
Hahaha, what did I miss?

Nintendo showing us what their future would be if they went third party.

Like no seriously, it was that bad. It started off brilliant with Star Fox and then crashed and burned, Animal Cross mixed in with Mario Party, shitty Metroid spinoffs whilst the main series remains absent, IT WAS A DISASTER WHEN I LOOK BACK ON IT.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Radrappy on June 16, 2015, 12:07:46 pm
Wait when was it implied the Prime games aren't canon? Does that mean Other M is canon but not Prime?

When announcing the game they said "THIS game takes place in the Prime universe!" which heavily implies at least to me a separation of canon. 
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 16, 2015, 12:07:50 pm
Im selling all my nintendo stuff after today. The amiibo stuff was shameless and humiliating. These guys live in a whole nother planet
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Radrappy on June 16, 2015, 12:09:59 pm
Im selling all my nintendo stuff after today. The amiibo stuff was shameless and humiliating. These guys live in a whole nother planet

I guess they don't call you crazyt for nothing!

In all seriousness you might want to wait a few weeks before you do that. 
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 16, 2015, 12:10:07 pm
When announcing the game they said "THIS game takes place in the Prime universe!" which heavily implies at least to me a separation of canon. 

...

*cries*

YOU HAD ONE JOB NINTENDO, ONE FUCKING JOB.

Why must Shenmue's return coincide with Nintendo not giving a fuck about one of my favourite series, WHY.

brb slitting wrists.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 16, 2015, 12:11:19 pm
At least Just Cause 3 looks good. The guy presenting it looks nervous. Probably because he's gotta go up against Final Fantasy 7 remake and Kingdom Hearts 3 lmao
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Radrappy on June 16, 2015, 12:11:25 pm
Metroid Prime is to Metroid what Sonic Boom is to Sonic.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 16, 2015, 12:11:45 pm
Oh god this is hilarious.

Unrelated to Nintendo: First footage of Tony Hawk's 5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KaZ1I7siFA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KaZ1I7siFA)


Not sure what to think. I heard a rumour it started as a mobile phone game, looking at the graphics, it wouldn't surprise me.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 16, 2015, 12:13:34 pm
Squeenix is so formal so far that it hurts. They're literally just...describing Just Cause 3 against gameplay. It sounds like a press release. A bad press release.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 16, 2015, 12:14:08 pm
Metroid Prime is to Metroid what Sonic Boom is to Sonic.

Why do you want to hurt me Radrappy :<

Who would have thought I'd be in meltdown mode the following day from Shenmue 3.

This is awful... I... I'm going to go lie down.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 16, 2015, 12:15:51 pm
I don't blame you, Aki. If Nintendo had brought out some bullshit Mother spin-off about sports and saying "oh btw nothing is canon anymore" I would probably just fall over and die.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Barry the Nomad on June 16, 2015, 12:18:37 pm
It's just something that's nice to have so you don't need to have two consoles hooked up at once. Not to mention as time goes on and Xbox 360s are less common to be bought or plugged in, it's nice to have the ability to easily play the games.


I wouldn't point to 360 BC as an E3 win, but it is very good news. I own a older 360 model, which is likely to die in the next few years, and an Xbox One is not only a new console to me, but it would be much easier to put the 360 in storage and replace it with the Xbox One featuring 360 BC than to have two consoles hooked up.

At the moment I'll likely get a PS3 and Xbox One in the next two years, and have a PS4 in 2017 in time for Shenmue 3.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 16, 2015, 12:20:31 pm
Looks like a new Nier game. Was the first one even any good? I had heard really mixed opinions on it.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 16, 2015, 12:21:32 pm
I don't blame you, Aki. If Nintendo had brought out some bullshit Mother spin-off about sports and saying "oh btw nothing is canon anymore" I would probably just fall over and die.

It doesn't even look like Metroid.

When I saw it I was like "Oh a new IP, or maybe something from the Bravely Default team" BUT NO PUNCHED IN THE GUTS AND KICKED IN THE STREETS. I'm so sad right now :<

Platinum making the single player portion for Star Fox, I can't give a fuck, of all the series Nintendo could ruin why did it have to be my favourite one from them.

(The funny thing is I EVEN love football, but this game seems very by the numbers, almost no enthusiasm put into it... Vs the Mario Tennis games, Sonic Racing etc)
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 16, 2015, 12:22:46 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/34N7QCi.png)


What...the hell?


I dare someone to make this their new avatar.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 16, 2015, 12:22:53 pm
At the moment I'll likely get a PS3 and Xbox One in the next two years, and have a PS4 in 2017 in time for Shenmue 3.

I'm planning to just get it on PC. There's still not enough on PS4 to win me over.


Why do you want to hurt me Radrappy :<

Who would have thought I'd be in meltdown mode the following day from Shenmue 3.

This is awful... I... I'm going to go lie down.


You need to stop expecting anything good to happen. Look how happy I am by comparison.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 16, 2015, 12:24:53 pm
I guess they don't call you crazyt for nothing!

In all seriousness you might want to wait a few weeks before you do that. 
They showed their true face today. Im glad they did. Its gonna make me some money. And safe a lot in the future
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 16, 2015, 12:26:53 pm
You need to stop expecting anything good to happen. Look how happy I am by comparison.

Nintendo have never annoyed me this badly. I mean sure, they forgot their franchises, that's cool, but actively segment and destroy their franchise? NO MANG THIS IS TERRIBLE.

Think of it like this, Other M being Sonic Heroes and this now being Sonic 06. You'd feel the child in you die a little.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 16, 2015, 12:28:45 pm
Platinum making the new Nier game.

Everything is Platinum Games this E3.

(SEGA should have forced them to make a new Streets of Rage instead of working on Anarchy Reigns... ;__; _
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: segaismysavior on June 16, 2015, 12:30:38 pm
I liked the games that Nintendo showed, but 3/4+ of them had already been announced. The new games were not megaton quality, but they do look like fun, just not like system sellers. They don't have to sell me on either system, but if I weren't already an owner then there wasn't much to get hyped about.  :-\
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 16, 2015, 12:30:56 pm
Platinum making the new Nier game.

Everything is Platinum Games this E3.

(SEGA should have forced them to make a new Streets of Rage instead of working on Anarchy Reigns... ;__; _
Great stuff man. My brother recently played nier, and absolutly loved it. He was ecstatic
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Dr. SEGA Monkey on June 16, 2015, 12:32:33 pm
That Metroid Federation Force game reminds me of stuff like this:


(http://www.keenandgraev.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Skylanders-SWAP-Force.jpg)


(http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/6/03/52274c02d3597/standard_fantastic.jpg)


(http://cdn0.spong.com/pack/b/e/ben10alien290765l/_-Ben-10-Alien-Force-Wii-_.jpg)


(http://underscoopfire.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/dc-comics-kids.jpg)
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 16, 2015, 12:40:29 pm
What the fuck is Nier?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 16, 2015, 12:43:50 pm
What the fuck is Nier?

Game where you play as a woman who has a demonic penis and a vagina.

That crazy bro.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 16, 2015, 12:44:12 pm
Yo Kingdom Hearts 3.......
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 16, 2015, 12:47:25 pm
Game where you play as a woman who has a demonic penis and a vagina.

That crazy bro.

I want to play this game.

Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Trippled on June 16, 2015, 12:52:12 pm
Still looks like Starfox 64 will continue to be the best Stargox game :/ Lots of emphasis on all-range (least fav part of Starfox) and that two-screen controls look akward. And Nintendo needs help from Platinum - argh Nintendo EAD house is slow as always...

The rest was like a typical direct.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 16, 2015, 12:54:29 pm
Oh yeah Street Fighter V.

Cammy got bigger boobs, but I don't like her and she looks boring.

Birdie got fat, which I don't like. He still has his chains, which I do like. Moveset looks similar to Alpha series, but has some important differences. His old super is much much better than his new one, Capcom supers now are fucking shit. Jumping rope with the opponent is not nearly as cool as his Murderer Chain was.
His victory pose is fucking dumb too.

Basically this game is fucking dumb looking because Capcom are fucking dumb. But I'll still probably try it because I really like Birdie despite their best efforts. He has some Ghost Rider looking chain throws which is a really cool addition at least.

I'll probably play this game for about a week before dumping it and going back to KoF98 and VF. Maybe I'll stick with it longer, try and convert me Capcom!

http://shoryuken.com/2015/06/15/going-hands-on-with-street-fighter-v-cammy-and-birdie-conduct-their-very-own-british-invasion/ (http://shoryuken.com/2015/06/15/going-hands-on-with-street-fighter-v-cammy-and-birdie-conduct-their-very-own-british-invasion/)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-9abLlPmp0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-9abLlPmp0)
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Radrappy on June 16, 2015, 01:00:18 pm
Still looks like Starfox 64 will continue to be the best Stargox game :/ Lots of emphasis on all-range (least fav part of Starfox) and that two-screen controls look akward. And Nintendo needs help from Platinum - argh Nintendo EAD house is slow as always...

The rest was like a typical direct.

Wow you really managed to turn the fact that Platinum is working on the new starfox into a bad sounding thing. 
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 16, 2015, 01:09:13 pm
Wow you really managed to turn the fact that Platinum is working on the new starfox into a bad sounding thing. 

Platinum aren't linked with Sega so we have to hate them now.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 16, 2015, 01:13:08 pm
What the fuck is Nier?
From what I watched with him. It looked like a challenging Action RPG akin to the darksiders games. But with a very strong setting and story.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Trippled on June 16, 2015, 01:13:40 pm
Platinum aren't linked with Sega so we have to hate them now.

Nah I'm crappin on Ninty.

Also Square Enix got a nice thing going, if Sega pulled their head out of their ass they could deliver something equally - putting Relic, CA, Atlus and Sega stuff together.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 16, 2015, 01:15:14 pm
Wow, think Nintendo hit a new low today. That was absolutely shambolic.

Starfox looked bland and full of waggle crap, Xenoblade has quite literally been in development the entire life span of the console now and to me, it seems Zelda has been pushed into the NX that they'll be showcasing next E3.

And just to add insult to injury, Nintendo disgustingly tried to get us to buy tat throughout the direct.

*slow clap*

I'm done with you Nintendo.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 16, 2015, 01:23:34 pm
Wow, think Nintendo hit a new low today. That was absolutely shambolic.

Starfox looked bland and full of waggle crap, Xenoblade has quite literally been in development the entire life span of the console now and to me, it seems Zelda has been pushed into the NX that they'll be showcasing next E3.

And just to add insult to injury, Nintendo disgustingly tried to get us to buy tat throughout the direct.

*slow clap*

I'm done with you Nintendo.
Yeah I think its the first time I can stand behind the people who say that Iwata should step down. The reason I say this is because while he's good with nurturing talent and hiring the right people, he is a terrible observer and decision maker.

What went wrong here is the exact same reason why nintendo screwed themselves when the Wii was a succes. They saw its succes, and then only saw the dollars. And you could taste the hunger for money in every part of their conferences in the late years of the wii when they came with the aim towards casuals.

Now the same thing is happening with amiibo. They have become a succes, and the spit is dripping from their tongues to exploit the consumers with the amiibo rage.

I think Nintendo and the bad leadership right now with Iwata, doesnt understand that doing business that way isnt just wrong, but people arent fucking retarted. People can see through your hungry eyes and they will stop liking you. Iwata needs to be replaced ASAP. Otherwise gaming is done for Nintendo
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 16, 2015, 01:40:52 pm
Well, E3's not over yet, folks! There's still the PC showcase later tonight at 8pm EDT, so if you're a PC fan, you may want to tune in.

For everyone else, this has been an extremely exciting E3, like holy FUCK.

Fallout 4 looks amazing, DOOM looks really good, Sony made so many dreams come true, Rare is back in the saddle, Mother 1 has come to the west, Metroid is dead, Shenmue 3 is real, and EA fucked up all over again.

Here's hoping for an even better 2016!
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 16, 2015, 01:53:14 pm
Total War: Warhammer at the PC conference, that should be good!
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 16, 2015, 01:56:32 pm
Nintendo's Conference - Hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahha


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CdAddALppOc/U8af42S2h6I/AAAAAAAAFOE/TklBsQwWex4/s1600/Please+Understand.png)
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 16, 2015, 02:34:07 pm
Also Square Enix got a nice thing going, if Sega pulled their head out of their ass they could deliver something equally - putting Relic, CA, Atlus and Sega stuff together.

It's worth noting though Square Enix was a trainwreck before last year, it wasn't a quick process but a gradual one that got them to where they were. SEGA was always ahead of them last generation and now the roles are kind of reversed.

(Should also point out the restructuring in America is probably why they're a no show at E3 this year despite having a decent lineup)

I think Nintendo and the bad leadership right now with Iwata, doesnt understand that doing business that way isnt just wrong, but people arent fucking retarted. People can see through your hungry eyes and they will stop liking you. Iwata needs to be replaced ASAP. Otherwise gaming is done for Nintendo

Morals and ethics do not make a great business.

If it did SEGA would be the top developer in the world and Electronic Arts would be close to bankruptcy.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Radrappy on June 16, 2015, 02:38:08 pm
I don't follow the line of thought that just because Nintendo had a terrible conference with not much to show somehow means they're greedy bastards.  They didn't announce too much amiibo related stuff, just hinted that more was coming. 
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 16, 2015, 02:45:51 pm
I don't follow the line of thought that just because Nintendo had a terrible conference with not much to show somehow means they're greedy bastards.  They didn't announce too much amiibo related stuff, just hinted that more was coming. 

Absolutely agreed.

What they did to Samus is far worse, written out of her own series.

I DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH TEARS.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Radrappy on June 16, 2015, 02:49:55 pm
Absolutely agreed.

What they did to Samus is far worse, written out of her own series.

I DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH TEARS.

Honestly, yes.  If you have beef with them, let it be that their output was severely depressing.  Not that you've somehow seen through some kind of sham. 
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 16, 2015, 02:56:18 pm
It's worth noting though Square Enix was a trainwreck before last year, it wasn't a quick process but a gradual one that got them to where they were. SEGA was always ahead of them last generation and now the roles are kind of reversed.

(Should also point out the restructuring in America is probably why they're a no show at E3 this year despite having a decent lineup)

Morals and ethics do not make a great business.

If it did SEGA would be the top developer in the world and Electronic Arts would be close to bankruptcy.
im a man of good faith. So even though I think you are right, I also believe that goodwill is important in the long run. I will admit that this is a naive way of seeing things, and I gladly be naive if thats the case :p

I don't follow the line of thought that just because Nintendo had a terrible conference with not much to show somehow means they're greedy bastards.  They didn't announce too much amiibo related stuff, just hinted that more was coming. 
The whole digital event was trying to sell more amiibos. In some cases more than the games themselves. The whole woolly world bit was presentrd by an amiibo designer woman. Amiibo had a huge focus in this digital event. It was to the point where it was clear that theyre not doing it with the intention of making amiibo a fun addition with great gains for everybody including them(money), but its getting to their heads instead and want to make even more money from them. If i was an amiibo collector befor this event, i would have sold them right now, because nintendo gets the wrong message when you support them it seems
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Trippled on June 16, 2015, 03:28:29 pm
gah man there are still defenders on the gaf...ninty fanboys man, I was one of em but come on
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 16, 2015, 03:30:18 pm
IGN: Star Fox Zero Has No Online Multiplayer  (http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/06/16/e3-2015-star-fox-zero-has-no-online-multiplayer-mode)

Nintendo's E3 just keeps on delivering.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 16, 2015, 03:33:04 pm
Btw The crazy is in my name for a reason yeah lol. But Iwata has just reacted to the negative feedback, so im not the only crazy one then it seems.

Anyway, what about that kingdom hearts 3 gameplay!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3xT8AwG1PuE




What a fucking leap going from ps2 to this. Wow
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 16, 2015, 04:19:10 pm
So here are my grades on all 3:

Sony: A
Microsoft: C+
Nintendo: D

Well Sony is obvious. Microsoft aimed at Xbox 360 fans, which is fine just not a huge Halo or Gears fans. Not to mention that Rare pirate game is on PC. Don't care about playing 360 games through a emulator. I like to see new games. Same issue I had with Sony's last HD remakes. They can be cool extras but not a main game or feature for me.


Nintendo... Man.....

How you going to show two Animal Crossing games and miss what fans want.? Why you using Mario Party mechanics?

They still haven't shown gameplay of Fire Emblem X Shin Migami. Frustrating. Then they didn't detail Fire Emblem 'Fates'. Is it two games in America?

Star Fox looks slow and I'm also not fond of the two screen system. Doesn't look good besides Platinum Games involvement.

Camelot Software sadly still wasting their talents on Mario Tennis.

I wanted to know more about Fatal Frame and Devils Third...
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 16, 2015, 04:24:50 pm
Switch your Grade for MS and Sony with each other and that's basically where i stand.

While i did enjoy Sony's Conference, i feel like they banked on Shenmue and FFVII too much, which is funny considering they're both multiplatform.

Uncharted looked great, as well as Horizon, but their 2015 lineup is a joke.

Microsoft stepped up, they have a lot of great games coming out this year and next year. They listened to fans and are bringing Rare back from the dead. The Rare Collection is a steal. Backwards compatibility on XOne is a reality now and will undoubtedly get better with time. Recore looks cool and was a big surprise as well. Everything they showed had a release date, something at least feasible. The two biggest games of of Sony's conference have just started being developed if at all.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Dr. SEGA Monkey on June 16, 2015, 06:14:20 pm
I thought Microsoft and Sony had equally good conferences. I would probably side with Xbox a little more, just because I have more attachment to their franchises.


Nintendo had their worst presentation I've ever seen. Probably worse than the infamous 2008 presentation.


And ouch, most of Nintendo's E3 videos have overwhelmingly negative reception. Just take a look at the amount of dislikes these videos have:

EDIT: Gah! They are not meant to be embedded.  :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGu3Xe1uUUg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGu3Xe1uUUg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFpRTw3ExIA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFpRTw3ExIA)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXBWAjxioSU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXBWAjxioSU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GIveAP_wtg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GIveAP_wtg)
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 16, 2015, 06:17:22 pm
Why do people judge a conference on what's out in 2015? It was a better presser overall.

What Microsoft games are out this year? I didn't catch anything big.

Microsoft has had like 90% multiplatform games. Nintendo technically had the most exclusives.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 16, 2015, 06:43:10 pm
Dr. SEGA Monkey...

WHY DID YOU HAVE TO MAKE ME ENDURE METROID FEDERATION AGAIN?!

WHHHHHHHYYYYYYYY?!?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Centrale on June 16, 2015, 07:24:20 pm
Personally, I was impressed with the variety of aesthetics on display in the games that Sony showed. A lot of the games had artistic, individual styles - as opposed to the prevailing gritty and realistic look that dominates the industry. Of course, they had some of those types of games, too - to me, the brutal violence of Assassin's Creed and the darker-than-dark darkness of Arkham just made me roll my eyes. But overall, it was nice that they showcased a broad spectrum of styles.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 16, 2015, 07:26:48 pm
Personally, I was impressed with the variety of aesthetics on display in the games that Sony showed. A lot of the games had artistic, individual styles - as opposed to the prevailing gritty and realistic look that dominates the industry. Of course, they had some of those types of games, too - to me, the brutal violence of Assassin's Creed and the darker-than-dark darkness of Arkham just made me roll my eyes. But overall, it was nice that they showcased a broad spectrum of styles.

You leave Bruce out of this!

Sony had a really colourful presentation, its what I love about video games.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: JRcade19 on June 16, 2015, 09:01:15 pm
Killer instinct and GOW ultimate coming to PC.

This far from what I would call "commitment" considering the decade long cockblocking, but it is a start and fair play to microsoft.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 16, 2015, 09:07:06 pm
So question. Windows 10 is going to become pretty big it seems for microsoft. I know there are a couple of games that are going to have cross online play between Windows 10 and Xbox one. This is kind of a huge thing for me, but is this going to work with all Xbox one games or just the exclusives?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: JRcade19 on June 16, 2015, 09:12:39 pm
I imagine it has to be enabled by the developer but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 16, 2015, 09:17:16 pm
Another year, another fake HL3 leak...


(http://i.imgur.com/mReroH6.png)
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: JRcade19 on June 16, 2015, 09:22:47 pm
You could tell fake just by looking at the number.

65 Million was....wow way back lol.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 16, 2015, 09:29:41 pm
I can't believe Shenmue 3 and FF7 remake happen and no Half Life 3
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: JRcade19 on June 16, 2015, 09:35:46 pm
Join the not party!

NOT Roller tycoon 4 has just been announced(not that I mind)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivAHFCHmIZo
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 16, 2015, 09:39:59 pm
I predict Nintendo is done for after this E3.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 16, 2015, 10:05:59 pm
Why do people judge a conference on what's out in 2015? It was a better presser overall.

What Microsoft games are out this year? I didn't catch anything big.

Microsoft has had like 90% multiplatform games. Nintendo technically had the most exclusives.

Well MS has Halo 5, Fable Legends, Forza 6, and Rise of the Tomb Raider all this year.

You have to judge a conference on everything not just whats being shown to be released for 2016 and later. People want games now, as well as later and I feel like MS delivered in that regard.

Seems like Sony has a tendency of showing of CG vids of games that will be released years down the line ie Last Guardian.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Radrappy on June 16, 2015, 10:44:59 pm
Sony had the best show hands down.  Even if their biggest surprises weren't exclusive, games like Last Guardian and Uncharted 4 are still very exciting. 

Microsoft was fine.

Nintendo completely flubbed it.  Star fox looked rough, Metroid Prime federation was insulting, tri-force was okay but clearly thrown together and 3/4s of the direct was spent on stuff we already knew.  It's such a shame because between their inclusion of Ryu in smashbrothers, and the momentum they've built up with Splatoon (two new free weapons came out tonight btw; not that you'd ever hear of it now) they were in great shape going into the show.  It's going to take a lot of work to crawl out of this one.  I would argue that had they saved ryu/roy for today and emphasized continued splatoon support; the perception would have been a lot kinder. 

Very confused as to why they decided to pace things as they did today. 
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 17, 2015, 12:01:38 am
Pirovash88: Fable Legends was announced for PC as well. Not hating on Microsoft. It was a alright confrence, but as a Xbox and Xbox 360 owner that liked the console due to their early support for Japanese developers like Mistwalker, Grounding Inc and etc. I liked their wacky, weird early published Xbox games. I just feel like it was just 'meh', I know its mainstream appeal of Forza and Halo 5 and thats great for those people. I just don't care about those franchises at all.

@Radrappy: One thing that I'm starting to get ticked off with Nintendo is reusing gimmicks. Kirby Epic Yarn = Yoshi's Wooly World. Mario Party = Animal Crossing Wii U party thing. Fire Emblem not being detailed or even shown gameplay rubbed me the wrong way.

and again, Devil's Third is out this year and I feel like I'm the only one that wanted it to shine, along with Fatal Frame.

Totally agree with you on Star Fox Zero. When they did the Treehouse I almost feel asleep... Star Fox is suppose to have you moving forward with constant action, they kept showing super slow rovers... it was so boring.

How Panzer Dragoon Orta from 2002 going to have better graphics than your game? Come on Nintendo, get with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJWw2yykMHw
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 17, 2015, 02:16:33 am
I predict Nintendo is done for after this E3.

I was talking to a friend about this yesterday. It really isn't looking good for them is it? This has got to be the shortest they've ever supported their console all the while being completely out of touch with the western market. They're obsessed with using the same core franchises despite the success Splatoon has had. They're stuck in the 80s.

Meanwhile, they're quite happy to push selling tat during their E3 Direct.

Regardless of what they bring next year (including their new console), I really think they've lost consumers confidence and people will be very cautious of them.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 17, 2015, 02:22:08 am
Don't worry, I can see their mobile games doing amazingly well.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 17, 2015, 02:29:28 am
For me, this E3 has been great. In terms of conferences (best at top):

Sony - they didn't actually so that much for the immediate future, but what they did show gave us, consumers, confidence they'll keep pushing.

Microsoft - They had a good conference too, but Sony was stronger.

Bethesda - A good amount on show.

Ubi - ignoring the CGI nonsense they always have and the terribly awkward host, South Park and GhostR.

SE - Too much talking, but they had some nice games.

EA - again, too much nonsense, but Mirror's Edge and Battefront look good.

Nintendo  - don't show up if you have nothing to show.



Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 17, 2015, 02:31:00 am
Don't worry, I can see their mobile games doing amazingly well.

Worried isn't the word I'd use ;)

If they're going to dig the hole...
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 17, 2015, 03:34:18 am
Honestly Nintendo has always been more about business than they have been about 'pushing' the technology in the video game industry. They make great games because they know it makes their brand name stronger and have a loyal following. Not sleazy, that's a great way of doing business. The issue isn't their software, its their hardware. I think its going to be hard not to be happy when money pours in monthly from their mobile games. Look what a few months of Amiibo success has done.

(http://i.imgur.com/Yizk2TG.png)
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 17, 2015, 04:13:35 am
Sony had the best show hands down.  Even if their biggest surprises weren't exclusive, games like Last Guardian and Uncharted 4 are still very exciting. 

Microsoft was fine.

Nintendo completely flubbed it.  Star fox looked rough, Metroid Prime federation was insulting, tri-force was okay but clearly thrown together and 3/4s of the direct was spent on stuff we already knew.  It's such a shame because between their inclusion of Ryu in smashbrothers, and the momentum they've built up with Splatoon (two new free weapons came out tonight btw; not that you'd ever hear of it now) they were in great shape going into the show.  It's going to take a lot of work to crawl out of this one.  I would argue that had they saved ryu/roy for today and emphasized continued splatoon support; the perception would have been a lot kinder. 

Very confused as to why they decided to pace things as they did today. 
They decided to do what they did. We can "what if", or "they should have" all we want. This is what they thought people would like. And that's the disturbing part of all this.

I think they misinterpreted last year's succesful Digital Event. Like it wasnt just the content lacking this time, but the whole thing in the context of the showing made the thing even worse. The muppet style comedy wouldnt be such a bad idea if the content was actually good, but now it looked like they are crazy people just trolling us. Also last year's Developer stories werent a succes because they were developer stories. It was mostly because the developer stories were exclusive to newly anounced content. Now they decided to splat the developer stories almost at every game including games we knew about a long time ago, and stretch them into boredom territory. I mean how do you have a huge developer story 2 E3's in a row about Yoshi's woolly world, and then it taking almost 10 minutes of the whole thing? We get it nintendo, your gamedesign philosiphy is good. No need to beg for recognition

I think there's really something wrong with the leaders at nintendo as a whole if they couldnt see how this was a bad idea in reviewing the video. As I said, I think Iwata needs to step down and perhaps take a Miyamoto role together with him by managing the talent. They also interpreted amiibo's succes wrong in my opinion. They're not looking at it from "why do people like amiibo's", but it seems more like they thought "how can we make even more money and faster from them". Hence the whole segment with skylanders, the Animal crossing amiibo party stuff, the Woolly world segment with amiibo yoshi images pushed into our faces.

I think I've realized that Nintendo doing badly has been why the Wii U got such great games, because when they do well somewhere (amiibos), they forget every one of the loyalists to go after the buck. And I guess George is right in that regard. Nintendo has always been more about business than they have been about pushing the game industry.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 17, 2015, 04:30:27 am
Also guys, is it me or was the framerate really bad for Starfox Zero in the Digital event? Looking at the trailer now outside of the event it looks a lot better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6PEecNY0Sc

Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 17, 2015, 05:14:53 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvinW1fKxxk

I like parts of it, but all the other added stuff looks like its slowing down the pace.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: crackdude on June 17, 2015, 07:12:28 am
My favorite games of E3:
Doom
Shenmue 3
Final Fantasy VII Remake
No Man's Sky
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 17, 2015, 07:15:50 am
My favourite games of E3
Shenmue 3
SHENMUE 3
SHENMUE 3
SHENMUE 3

ABSOLUTELY WORST BIGGEST PIECE OF SHIT I'VE EVER SEEN AT E3
Metroid Prime Federation Force
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: SOUP on June 17, 2015, 07:59:43 am
Also guys, is it me or was the framerate really bad for Starfox Zero in the Digital event? Looking at the trailer now outside of the event it looks a lot better.

The framerate should be pretty solid. They said that they had to scale down the graphics a bit, because they're mainly focusing on being able to hit 60fps on the TV and gamepad simultaneously.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Barry the Nomad on June 17, 2015, 08:11:35 am
I don't follow the Metroid series, so can somebody explain Metroid Prime Federation Force to me and why I need to hate it?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 17, 2015, 08:22:33 am
I don't follow the Metroid series, so can somebody explain Metroid Prime Federation Force to me and why I need to hate it?
Metroid is one of Nintendo's best and one of the few real mature titles they have. The sense of isolation in the games within lush planets and overall great environments is something no other game has done as well. Actually, there's no 1st person game like it and nintendo has a huge unique franchise with the metroid series.

With all the kiddy stuff nintendo already publishes, the one mature franchise has just been misused into another kiddy franchise, lacking all of the aspects i've described above.

The original metroid prime games are all worth 10/10. They are among the best games ever made. And people cherish them and for me personally its one of the most beautiful experiences i've had in gaming. It stands next to shenmue or any other game you'd consider to be special.

People wanted a new one too much. And they expected to see one yesterday. I think if this federation bullshit wouldnt be received as bad if nintendo actually anounced a legit metroid game for the Wii U right after it. But they didnt, so people feel insulted
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 17, 2015, 09:10:59 am
I was told Metroid Prime Federation Force was a soccer game. Looks like it's just a mini game within it?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: crackdude on June 17, 2015, 09:29:36 am
How do you get kicked out of your own franchise ahahah
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Dr. SEGA Monkey on June 17, 2015, 09:32:06 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvinW1fKxxk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvinW1fKxxk)

I like parts of it, but all the other added stuff looks like its slowing down the pace.


Wait, do you HAVE to look back and forth at the gamepad and TV, or are you able to use standard aiming?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 17, 2015, 09:41:45 am
CrazyT didn't even mention how they're splitting the canon or how Samus has been relegated from her own franchise.

It'd be like Sonic being relegated to a sidecharacter in his own game... Well that kind of happened in Sonic 06 too... So yes, this is a disaster.

I was told Metroid Prime Federation Force was a soccer game. Looks like it's just a mini game within it?

They'd waste resources in two different modes when we want Samus to make her glorious return.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 17, 2015, 09:45:19 am
They'd waste resources in two different modes when we want Samus to make her glorious.

You're so mad you couldn't even finish the sentence :(

Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 17, 2015, 09:51:40 am
You're so mad you couldn't even finish the sentence :(

I AM FUC- MAD THA LETTRS R MISSIN FROM MY TXTING!!!
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 17, 2015, 09:54:09 am
How do you get kicked out of your own franchise ahahah
CrazyT didn't even mention how they're splitting the canon or how Samus has been relegated from her own franchise.

It'd be like Sonic being relegated to a sidecharacter in his own game... Well that kind of happened in Sonic 06 too... So yes, this is a disaster.

They'd waste resources in two different modes when we want Samus to make her glorious return.
hahahaha . yeah of course.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Dr. SEGA Monkey on June 17, 2015, 09:55:14 am
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2015/06/16/a-star-fox-zero-conversation-with-shigeru-miyamoto-and-his-team.aspx (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2015/06/16/a-star-fox-zero-conversation-with-shigeru-miyamoto-and-his-team.aspx)


Apparently StarFox wont even have branching paths to different planets.  :-\


From what it sounds like, there are alternate paths within the levels when you select alternate missions, but nothing that leads to new planets.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 17, 2015, 09:59:01 am
hahahaha . yeah of course.

Oh yeah another thing you forgot. The last game we had was Metroid: Other M and was the finest piece of character assassination I have ever seen in my life. Like damn I thought Marvel was bad but this was far far worse.

...

*cries*

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2015/06/16/a-star-fox-zero-conversation-with-shigeru-miyamoto-and-his-team.aspx (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2015/06/16/a-star-fox-zero-conversation-with-shigeru-miyamoto-and-his-team.aspx)


Apparently StarFox wont even have branching paths to different planets.  :-\


From what it sounds like, there are alternate paths within the levels when you select alternate missions, but nothing that leads to new planets.

Eh... My hype is deflating if that's true.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Nirmugen on June 17, 2015, 10:00:33 am
Well, the Grasper effect (much projects in a short time) could be applied here if this is true :/
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 17, 2015, 10:15:12 am
So now they're ruining Star Fox.. I don't even know what to say. I think the Wii U might be my last Nintendo console, no joke. After all of these years.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 17, 2015, 11:23:49 am
Nintendo should abandon gaming alltogether I say. Because imho, the next console wont be a succes. They've already pushed themselves into a corner. They do not appeal to anyone, and now they've also screwed over their most loyal fans. What a disgraceful way to leave the industry. At least SEGA left with a huge bang (Dreamcast).
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 17, 2015, 12:53:39 pm
Nintendo should abandon gaming alltogether I say. Because imho, the next console wont be a succes. They've already pushed themselves into a corner. They do not appeal to anyone, and now they've also screwed over their most loyal fans. What a disgraceful way to leave the industry. At least SEGA left with a huge bang (Dreamcast).

Yeah, it bums me out, you have no idea how much.. Like i said, huge fan, i don't show it, but i am.

Also, i created this Avi for you. =)
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 17, 2015, 01:03:12 pm
Wait, do you HAVE to look back and forth at the gamepad and TV, or are you able to use standard aiming?
I heard some Nintendo fanboys say its optional but Peter Brown at Gamespot was only demoed with the two screens and his reactions where very negative:
"Where's the Star Fox I know and love? Maybe it's hidden in there somewhere. While Nintendo is going all out to promote the new GamePad controls, I'm holding out for an option to play with the Wii U Pro Controller. That option would impact the aiming system, and therefore balancing and level design, but it would also mean that people who have been playing Star Fox games for decades can simply jump right in and have fun. I want enemies, environments, and boss battles to stand between me and victory, not the controls. I can understand why Nintendo is so keen to sell the GamePad by designing games around it, but as someone who already owns a Wii U and just wants to play Star Fox the way I always have, I hope I have the option to. Otherwise, Star Fox Zero may not be the game for me."
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/hands-on-with-star-fox-zero-s-gamepad-controls/1100-6428208/

Monitoring two screens sounds like a unneeded hassle. Also you know your philosophy is fucked as a game designer when you degrade the art in your game to make your gimmicks work better.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 17, 2015, 01:04:53 pm
Yeah, it bums me out, you have no idea how much.. Like i said, huge fan, i don't show it, but i am.

Also, i created this Avi for you. =)
Which Avi? The one you have now?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 17, 2015, 01:10:07 pm
I'm really dubious about Fallout 4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQoAf0WoNzA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQoAf0WoNzA)



I'm wary of the dialogue wheel and spoken player character. It's just moving pretty far from what Fallout was all about.
They should have just made this an action game spin-off, it's clearly what they want to do with the series.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 17, 2015, 01:18:10 pm
If Fallout 4 were to remove skills, they'd probably have brought it up like they did when they said there would be less skills in Skyrim than there was in Oblivion. They probably don't have much of anything to say about the skill system because it's not being changed too much.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 17, 2015, 01:41:35 pm
Which Avi? The one you have now?

Haha, yeah. I believe you dared anyone on here to make an Avi out of it?

Yours is better, though.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 17, 2015, 01:44:59 pm
Haha, yeah. I believe you dared anyone on here to make an Avi out of it?

Yours is better, though.
Hahaha. No that wasnt me. Thanks your avi is nice too
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 17, 2015, 01:50:14 pm
Haha, yeah. I believe you dared anyone on here to make an Avi out of it?

Yours is better, though.

That was me, I am crazy glad you ended up doing it.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 17, 2015, 01:59:37 pm
Can someone tell me where it came from?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 17, 2015, 02:02:16 pm
Squeenix's conference, right after Nier was announced. I wasn't paying attention so I dunno if it had anything to do with Nier.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 17, 2015, 02:08:42 pm
Can someone tell me where it came from?

(http://thekoalition.com/images/2015/06/nier_director-730x411.jpg)

Koro-sensei has a brother.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 17, 2015, 02:47:54 pm
Huh...That moon from Majora's mask wasn't that big after all.


About Starfox...

I watched the Tree House thing with them playing it. It looks terrible. They've basically broken the game thanks to the gamepad being crucial. The reason it looks rough is due to the console having to send the image out to both your TV and gamepad. The pad screen is where you do all your aiming and firing resulting in you (on tv) bumping into everything while you try and focus on the gamepad with it's motion control aiming.

The game also doesn't have different paths like Starfox 64 too.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 17, 2015, 03:03:36 pm
Tetsuya Nomura not only confirms that the Final Fantasy VII Remake will keep the lighthearted elements (please look forward to Cloud wearing a dress), but that it's also been in development since before last year's FFVII re-release on PS4 was announced.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-17-it-seems-like-final-fantasy-7s-remake-wont-lose-so-much-of-the-crazy
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 17, 2015, 03:08:03 pm
Are they going to re-do the script? I dunno if it was just the American translation, but it wasn't the best written game.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Dr. SEGA Monkey on June 17, 2015, 03:12:05 pm
In addition to StarFox being underwhelming, I was looking at some footage of that new Mario Tennis game, and it seems just as strange. The animations seem like a big step down from the GameCube version, and the movement itself seems really jittery and janky for some reason.


And for some reason, the ball's speed actually changes for no reason. Check out this video at 2:02


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDe0MmUmepE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDe0MmUmepE)



Mario hits the ball at a high speed, then when the ball bounces, it loses all of it's energy and inertia. It happens over and over again as the video goes on. Really weird.  ???
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 17, 2015, 03:24:16 pm
Mario hits the ball at a high speed, then when the ball bounces, it loses all of it's energy and inertia. It happens over and over again as the video goes on. Really weird.  ???
Backspin?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 17, 2015, 03:26:53 pm
YEah that is pretty bad tennis physics. Has it been confirmed if Camelot Software is developing this game? Its s shame they don't make a new IP.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Dr. SEGA Monkey on June 17, 2015, 03:36:57 pm
Backspin?

I don't think I even recall Mario Tennis having a backspin. And isn't the point of that giant mushroom shot to spike the ball as fast as you can off the court? Doesn't seem like a backspin kind of move. I dunno, it just seems like they are making it easier or something.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 17, 2015, 04:48:02 pm
Hahaha. No that wasnt me. Thanks your avi is nice too

Ohh, lol, wrong person, sorry about that.

Quote
That was me, I am crazy glad you ended up doing it.
Haha no worries Moody, thought it looked pretty creepy.

I think the biggest overall Ninty disappointment for E3, for me, was Metroid Prime. Federation Force looks like a joke, that's some Power Rangers shit.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 17, 2015, 05:17:39 pm
That avatar is creepy...
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Barry the Nomad on June 17, 2015, 06:05:52 pm
Metroid is one of Nintendo's best and one of the few real mature titles they have. The sense of isolation in the games within lush planets and overall great environments is something no other game has done as well. Actually, there's no 1st person game like it and nintendo has a huge unique franchise with the metroid series.

With all the kiddy stuff nintendo already publishes, the one mature franchise has just been misused into another kiddy franchise, lacking all of the aspects i've described above.

The original metroid prime games are all worth 10/10. They are among the best games ever made. And people cherish them and for me personally its one of the most beautiful experiences i've had in gaming. It stands next to shenmue or any other game you'd consider to be special.

People wanted a new one too much. And they expected to see one yesterday. I think if this federation bullshit wouldnt be received as bad if nintendo actually anounced a legit metroid game for the Wii U right after it. But they didnt, so people feel insulted


Thanks for the refresher, god that sucks.

Oh, it might annoy the Metroid fans here, but I have a mint CIB release of the original NES game. :P
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: segaismysavior on June 17, 2015, 08:20:24 pm
https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-petition-for-cancelation-of-metroid-prime-federation-force (https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-petition-for-cancelation-of-metroid-prime-federation-force)


lol, oh internet.


The "Metroid" game looks like it could be fun with friends, but it's depressing that it could get money behind it before a Samus-led game. It's awful that Nintendo doesn't see the damage they're doing.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 18, 2015, 03:54:54 am
These quotes don't make the game sound very good (NOA pic)
(http://i.imgur.com/46cOfNR.jpg)

Fox's face really looks punchable on that photo.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Trippled on June 18, 2015, 04:59:18 am
"but its a game I want to play again..." huh?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 18, 2015, 05:19:44 am
Gaming for me is more of a mental gymnistic than it is a physical. I learned that after the Wii that I do not want to stand up, move around and do anything other than moving a bit of my hands and fingers to play a game. If its challenging like bayonetta, then all the better.

That last quote makes it sound like the opposite so for me. Basically another game forced with needless so called "creativity". Pass
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 18, 2015, 06:51:31 am
Already selling my Wii u.

Very unlikely I'll buy another Nintendo product again.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 18, 2015, 07:08:23 am
You know, I didn't quite expect the backlash against Nintendo to be just this severe.

I dunno, I wouldn't have thought one bad E3 would garner the same sort of anger Microsoft got with them trying to destroy the second hand market.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 18, 2015, 07:37:50 am
You know, I didn't quite expect the backlash against Nintendo to be just this severe.

I dunno, I wouldn't have thought one bad E3 would garner the same sort of anger Microsoft got with them trying to destroy the second hand market.
The digital event really was that much of a joke. I think when people know what theyre doing at the same time make themselves look  a bit silly it isnt really a problem. But when you do that while screwing around at the same time the impact probably twofolds.

The event just looked like they were laughing at all their fans honestly.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 18, 2015, 09:40:53 am
These quotes don't make the game sound very good (NOA pic)
(http://i.imgur.com/46cOfNR.jpg)

Fox's face really looks punchable on that photo.

I certainly wanna punch em in the face..

I don't and never will understand Nintendo's decision to develop a bland ass Star Fox game over F-Zero or Metroid, it blows my mind.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 18, 2015, 09:47:43 am
So many avatars has changed I'm starting to mix people up now haha.

The digital event really was that much of a joke. I think when people know what theyre doing at the same time make themselves look  a bit silly it isnt really a problem. But when you do that while screwing around at the same time the impact probably twofolds.

The event just looked like they were laughing at all their fans honestly.

They certainly were laughing at me when they showed Metroid Prime Federation.

Jokes on them! Godzilla got me out of my pit of self pity.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 18, 2015, 09:58:10 am
So many avatars has changed I'm starting to mix people up now haha.

I'll change back to my avatar of Eileen getting brained if you like?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 18, 2015, 10:13:03 am
Halo 5 multi player will have micro-transactions...
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 18, 2015, 10:20:09 am
So many avatars has changed I'm starting to mix people up now haha.

They certainly were laughing at me when they showed Metroid Prime Federation.

Jokes on them! Godzilla got me out of my pit of self pity.
I think the icing on the cake was that slide at the end end with all the people happily playing the classic mario tune. Some masterclass trolling right there. The sad part is that the trolling wasnt actually deliberate

Things are looking dire for nintendo. They should have humbled themselves a bit.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Centrale on June 18, 2015, 11:15:36 am
Man, people petitioning Nintendo to cancel a game?!... I'm sorry, but what a bunch of entitled brats! Now that they're back on the bottom of the heap, the smug sense of superiority of Nintendo fans has run ashore hard into cognitive dissonance. How could this happen? We "won" E3 last year - why didn't that translate into sales? All of these middle-aged Nintendo fans are always groaning about how the games aren't mature enough for them. Nintendo's strategy has always been akin to McDonald's - hook 'em while they're little kids. They're always going to focus on the kids' market primarily. When former Nintendo kids grow up to be frustrated 30 and 40-somethings, some of them get a little toxic when they find their opinions and expectations aren't the top priority. They're gonna implode if it turns out the NX is anything other than a powerhouse console. And how likely is that? It's going to be something that integrates with their future mobile strategy, and there's no way they're going to aim for high end specs.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 18, 2015, 07:50:21 pm
Already selling my Wii u.

Very unlikely I'll buy another Nintendo product again.
I was going to sell my wii u as well, but I noticed myself going back to it during the day playing a couple of games of splatoon. I figured that ive always owned every console anyway. Same thing for my 3ds where I played xenoblade right after final fantasy x on vita and enjoying it more. I also forgot Wii u is still getting xenoblade X in december. Definitly wont pass on the good games when I already own the thing

Having said that. Theyre my last nintendo platforms I get within the first 3/4 years. Like most people ill be waiting till the consoles die, become cheap as fuck and then enjoy all the good games later. I guess theyve done it to do themselves.

I think they are done with core gaming however. They have lost a lot of people right now so i wonder how thats gonna affect them
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 18, 2015, 09:36:36 pm
While Nintendo's E3 showing was bad, especially compared to what Sony showed... they actually showed the most content coming out this year compared to Microsoft and Sony. I think the issue with Nintendo is that they didn't save some announcements for E3 and ignored two Mature games (Devil's Third and Fatal Frame that both come out this year).

A few days before E3 they announced Ryu and Roy coming to Smash along with the Mii skins. Should have saved little things like that for E3. Also dedicating lots of time to Mario Maker and Yoshi's game when we already seen it multiple times.

Reggie is clueless. I never liked the guy and I hate his shitty PR responses. Like this one:

Quote
"One of the things I find interesting is that if you look at E3 historically for Nintendo, typically what happens is a press briefing happens or our digital event happens," Fils-Aime said, "and then over the course of the next couple of days people see the games get to play the games and the appreciation and understanding of what we're doing increases over those three days and continues to build into the holidays."

"Splatoon is a game that people are loving right now, but if you rewind to E3 last year, Splatoon was being viewed as, 'Yes, it's innovative and it's different, but the controls are a little hard and I don't understand the mechanic of turning into a squid and going through the ink.' There were all of these complaints. But now you look at the finished product and the satisfaction is huge."

http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/18/8802789/reggie-fils-aime-iwata-didnt-apologize-for-nintendos-e3-we-make-great (http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/18/8802789/reggie-fils-aime-iwata-didnt-apologize-for-nintendos-e3-we-make-great)



Nintendo fans never hated Splatoon, they just complained about 'lack of content'. That isn't the complaint about Star Fox Zero or Metroid Prime: Galactic Federation or their overall E3 showing.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 18, 2015, 10:16:20 pm
Good point George. Sony and microsoft definitly have the tendency to blow their load and overpromise big time, especially Sony. The big 3 anouncements will all come very late. The last guardian for example had a great re reveal but it showed the exact same stuff of like.. 7/8 years ago? but only a bit extended. I know it said 2016 but I dont believe that yet. Neither do I think final fantasy VII is gonna be done in 2 years looking at square's track record. I think i have all right to be skeptical. And Sony by now knows the positive effects and how easy it is to get away with it. 

But Sony also gets that the E3 is a show. And they like to take advantage of it big time even if it takes some overpromises. Say what you want, but it works with the big croud.

While I agree that nintendo showed mostly 2015 stuff, also having the most 1st party content of them all within the same span of time, I think Nintendo doesnt get e3. I think that E3 is a show where you show a long term comittment to your platform. You give your consumers an idea what theyll get in at least the next 2 years.

People mostly interpreted the digital event as a clear sign that both 3ds and WII U are on their way out. Which is probably correct anyway. But imagine if it wasnt and reggie's statement about short term showings means that they are not on their way out. They really dont get E3 if thats the case.

Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 18, 2015, 10:52:07 pm
I agree, I think having all their games out this year and not teasing any future games basically made people think Nintendo gave up on the Wii U. I agree with this 100%, especially when you start your E3 event by talking about NX. It was up to them to the gamers the product and they basically showed little faith. I think some of their 'big announcements' was all side games.

Nintendo should have announced a price drop for the Wii U and made it $250 or even $200. Its too much of an investment at $300 when the Xbone is $350.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 19, 2015, 12:26:20 am
I think MS did it best and that just my personal opinion. The only reason I agrgue that is because they gave us a peak into 2016 and beyond as well as delivering a strong line up for this year. Forza 6, Halo 5, Gears of War Ultimate, Fable Legends, Rise of the Tomb Raider, and Rare Replay are all being released this year.

Not only did they showcase that for this year, but they announced Ashen, Gears 4, Sea of Thieves, Quantum Break, etc.

Like CrazyT said, E3 is supped to be a platform where you showcase what you've got in the pipeline for gamers this year's as well as in the future. If that's the standard to go by, then I think MS delivered on that note.

I will also say that I'll be keeping my Wii U, mainly for Fatal Frame and Xeno.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 19, 2015, 12:33:13 am
Can't believe all the console 'exclusive' games coming to PC: Ashen, Cuphead, No Man Skies, Gears of War Ultimate, Fable Legends, Shenmue, Final Fantasy 7 remake, Sea of Thieves, Killer Instinct etc.

If only Sony put Uncharted 4, The Last Guardian and other first party games on PC too, i'd never have to touch a console again.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Shigs on June 19, 2015, 02:48:08 am
So I actually found some Sega games at E3 today!

Tried the Hatsune Miku Morpheus VR demo. This was the most effective VR I've seen yet (but I haven't experienced that much VR). It puts you in a giant stadium where Hatsune Miku is performing a concert. You can see the depth of the entire arena around you. It feels massive. Then you are onstage with Miku. She feels like she's right there. I tried to stab her with my Move wand a few times. XD

The other one was Tembo the Badass Elephant at the Microsoft booth. The game is pretty damn awesome. Very comical and visceral with a variety of charging, jump and attack moves. Felt like a 2-D mixture of Mario and Metal Slug.

I'll go into more detail in two hands-on previews later.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: CrazyT on June 19, 2015, 05:27:45 am
I think MS did it best and that just my personal opinion. The only reason I agrgue that is because they gave us a peak into 2016 and beyond as well as delivering a strong line up for this year. Forza 6, Halo 5, Gears of War Ultimate, Fable Legends, Rise of the Tomb Raider, and Rare Replay are all being released this year.

Not only did they showcase that for this year, but they announced Ashen, Gears 4, Sea of Thieves, Quantum Break, etc.

Like CrazyT said, E3 is supped to be a platform where you showcase what you've got in the pipeline for gamers this year's as well as in the future. If that's the standard to go by, then I think MS delivered on that note.

I will also say that I'll be keeping my Wii U, mainly for Fatal Frame and Xeno.
The bigger croud isnt like us. They dont care about our boring realism and stories about release dates. They want that mothafucking PS4 right now lol.

Its pretty undebatable who really won E3. I mean objectively, Sony's conference is going to result in people wanting their console more than any other. Hell I was gonna place my order the day right after the conference because I was so hyped up about it. Me getting to my senses and looking at the release dates got me to the same conclusions as George, which is that I was going to have 2 platforms with the same games for a long time with already owning a solid rig. I mean Horizon and Uncharted 4 look great, they're just not my type of games if you know my taste a bit. Its really kingdom hearts 3, the last guardian or the final fantasies what im waiting for. If I got a Ps4 now it would be for Ratchet and clank mainly, and maybe slightly for Bloodborne because I REALLY suck at dark souls right now(need to git gud).

In support of Xbox, the One's backwards compatibility is a very big deal. A much bigger deal than the WII U's backwards compatibilty for several reasons. One, it is supported through the regular interface instead of having to go to a seperate outdated OS. Secondly all your physical games become digital which makes it easy to start them all up. You can directly play it with your new Xbox one controller. The 360 catalogue is much much much better than the wii's. And lastly I read that performance is even improved in some cases. Really wow that is some incredible wizardry.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 19, 2015, 01:01:21 pm
Can't believe all the console 'exclusive' games coming to PC: Ashen, Cuphead, No Man Skies, Gears of War Ultimate, Fable Legends, Shenmue, Final Fantasy 7 remake, Sea of Thieves, Killer Instinct etc.

If only Sony put Uncharted 4, The Last Guardian and other first party games on PC too, i'd never have to touch a console again.

Same, if i didn't already want Uncharted 4, i wouldn't buy a PS4 at all.

The bigger croud isnt like us. They dont care about our boring realism and stories about release dates. They want that mothafucking PS4 right now lol.

Its pretty undebatable who really won E3. I mean objectively, Sony's conference is going to result in people wanting their console more than any other. Hell I was gonna place my order the day right after the conference because I was so hyped up about it. Me getting to my senses and looking at the release dates got me to the same conclusions as George, which is that I was going to have 2 platforms with the same games for a long time with already owning a solid rig. I mean Horizon and Uncharted 4 look great, they're just not my type of games if you know my taste a bit. Its really kingdom hearts 3, the last guardian or the final fantasies what im waiting for. If I got a Ps4 now it would be for Ratchet and clank mainly, and maybe slightly for Bloodborne because I REALLY suck at dark souls right now(need to git gud).

In support of Xbox, the One's backwards compatibility is a very big deal. A much bigger deal than the WII U's backwards compatibilty for several reasons. One, it is supported through the regular interface instead of having to go to a seperate outdated OS. Secondly all your physical games become digital which makes it easy to start them all up. You can directly play it with your new Xbox one controller. The 360 catalogue is much much much better than the wii's. And lastly I read that performance is even improved in some cases. Really wow that is some incredible wizardry.

I don't understand the people whom bought a Playstation knowing that its current line-up isn't very good. The only appealing 1st party game in their current line-up is Bloodborne and even then, you have to be a fan of the Dark Souls series in order to appreciate it. The PS4 is definitely a platform worth owning after 2016, Uncharted 4 alone has me wanting one, but as of right now, the XBOX One is the platform with the best exclusive games that appeal more to my taste.

The PS4 for me, will serve as an exclusive platform, just as the PS3 did for me. Kingdom Hearts III and Final Fantasy XV will thankfully be released on the XBOX so i'll be purchasing those on that console, regardless of whether or not i have a PS4 at the time of their release.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 19, 2015, 01:10:03 pm
I don't understand the people whom bought a Playstation knowing that its current line-up isn't very good.

You have to remember that for most people, they don't 'understand' PC gaming and also just want something to play games. They'll be happy as pigs in shit so long as they can play Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed and FIFA/MADDEN (depending on which continent they are in).

We can harp on about all the games being on PC and looking better or not being exclusive, but for 99% of the market they got a PS4 because they want to play Fifa 2015 and don't know/care that it's also on PS3.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: crackdude on June 19, 2015, 01:39:15 pm
Fifa on the PS4/PC is incredibly different from the PS3 version tho
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 19, 2015, 01:41:07 pm
Fifa on the PS4/PC is incredibly different from the PS3 version tho

That alone justifies the purchase for most gamers.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: crackdude on June 19, 2015, 01:45:29 pm
That alone justifies the purchase for most gamers.
And why not, if you're going to spend 300hours on a game might as well do it on the better version
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 19, 2015, 01:47:32 pm
And why not, if you're going to spend 300hours on a game might as well do it on the better version

That's what I'm saying, people talk about the library not being good enough to justify the purchase, but to many people, all it needs to be is something to play Fifa and CoD on and that's literally all they want out of it.

For me I don't find it worth it, because most games I want would be on PC anyway (SFV, Shenmue III et al), but for many, PC gaming is as mysterious as ancient hebrew.

EDIT: That's not an insult, it's just that many people don't have the same level of interest to look into PC gaming and just want a console. I'm sure I'm the same with my phone or car or other things I'm not interested in to the same extent. I could flash my phone and reinstall better android mods that are 'so much better' than the standard, but it's not something I'm familiar with, nor is it something I'd get much use out of compared to an enthusiast.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: crackdude on June 19, 2015, 01:54:09 pm
You are right.
Because if you really want the best Fifa/COD, they are on the PC anyway.

I enjoy PC and all it's perks, but I understand that for most people it's a hassle. It's not as simple as some make it seem.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 19, 2015, 02:04:22 pm
Everywhere I looked people were saying "but it's on PC" as though it's a bad thing. I really don't understand it.

Yes, most games are on PC, but getting a PC capable of running these games isn't going to be cheap. A graphics card alone would set you back £3-400. With a console, you're looking at £350 (with games) max.

There's a huge difference.

Since they stopped supporting the last gen consoles, I have been more of a PC gamer, but even I'm looking at these E3 games and wondering what will my PC need to run them smoothly.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 19, 2015, 02:10:24 pm
Everywhere I looked people were saying "but it's on PC" as though it's a bad thing. I really don't understand it.

Yes, most games are on PC, but getting a PC capable of running these games isn't going to be cheap. A graphics card alone would set you back £3-400. With a console, you're looking at £350 (with games) max.

There's a huge difference.

Since they stopped supporting the last gen consoles, I have been more of a PC gamer, but even I'm looking at these E3 games and wondering what will my PC need to run them smoothly.

You are grossly overestimating the cost of the 3D card, but in general yes, PC is more expensive than console as an initial investment. It kind of cancels out with free online and cheaper games, but for most people it's just so much easier to just have a console.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: crackdude on June 19, 2015, 02:41:09 pm
Console + one year online + one game is about 500-550 euro.

At that price point you can make a darn good PC that plays everything.
It's cheap.
But it's not simple
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 19, 2015, 02:47:15 pm
Maybe about £150-200 for a graphics card.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 19, 2015, 03:06:29 pm
The game that justified the Playstation 4's existence is coming out next month anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnyU1RmVvks

[spoiler]You'll only like it if you like Godzilla.[/spoiler]

Console + one year online + one game is about 500-550 euro.

At that price point you can make a darn good PC that plays everything.
It's cheap.
But it's not simple

Yeah but one year of online on Playstation gives me all these free games : 3
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 19, 2015, 03:16:00 pm
Ultimate Mayhem looked like it was going for total shit when it was revealed. Just looked like a polished up version of Godzilla Generations, just plain looked boring. Everyone was asking for a new Godzilla fighting game, and so now they're like "oh yeah we're re-releasing the game but now it's actually a Godzilla fighting game!" and everyone lost their shit.

The only downside is the multiplayer is online-only from what I've heard. That's a REAL bummer. I've never played any of the fighting games but it sounds like the local multiplayer really was some of the best out there.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 19, 2015, 03:22:56 pm
Ultimate Mayhem looked like it was going for total shit when it was revealed. Just looked like a polished up version of Godzilla Generations, just plain looked boring. Everyone was asking for a new Godzilla fighting game, and so now they're like "oh yeah we're re-releasing the game but now it's actually a Godzilla fighting game!" and everyone lost their shit.

The only downside is the multiplayer is online-only from what I've heard. That's a REAL bummer. I've never played any of the fighting games but it sounds like the local multiplayer really was some of the best out there.

As someone who has always wanted the clunky, slow, tedious moveset of the films in a game I will take it very much.

What can I say, blowing up stuff and enjoying the crumbling structures is in my DNA, use to do it all the time as a kid with LEGO : 3
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 19, 2015, 03:27:58 pm
MULTI PURPOSE FIGHTING SYSTEM 3 - KIRYU!?
Yakuza x Godzilla?

That game looks B-Grade as fuck. I love it.

What can I say, blowing up stuff and enjoying the crumbling structures is in my DNA

Thought you were going to say because you're Islamic.

*rimshot*
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 19, 2015, 03:46:50 pm
Thought you were going to say because you're Islamic.

*rimshot*


I was saving that for either you, George or Ryan haha.

But if was someone, I'm glad it was you you uh, CATHOLIC KANGAROO?!?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 19, 2015, 05:31:10 pm
I was saving that for either you, George or Ryan haha.

But if was someone, I'm glad it was you you uh, CATHOLIC KANGAROO?!?

I'm a Kangaroo that molests young boys.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 19, 2015, 07:29:33 pm
e3 presentations this year were like


(http://i.imgur.com/k9bZHOs.png)
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 19, 2015, 08:47:44 pm
You have to remember that for most people, they don't 'understand' PC gaming and also just want something to play games. They'll be happy as pigs in shit so long as they can play Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed and FIFA/MADDEN (depending on which continent they are in).

We can harp on about all the games being on PC and looking better or not being exclusive, but for 99% of the market they got a PS4 because they want to play Fifa 2015 and don't know/care that it's also on PS3.

I worded that wrong, I meant to say 1st party line-up. Sony's 1st party is still the weakest this gen.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 21, 2015, 02:46:44 pm
You know, the convo we had on here the other day got me thinking. Since the end of the 360/PS3 era, I've mainly just used my PC for gaming but I have been interested in getting a console eventually for the exclusives. After this E3, I was ready to get a PS4 but held off as there's not really enough there to keep me going till next year.

But, I'm now starting to wonder if it's even worth getting one now? Sure, I'll miss out on some exclusives, but looking down my list of games that interested me this E3, apart from one or two, they're all on PC. My only real worry is bringing my PC up to date as although it plays everything I've wanted so far with little problems, I can see it becoming a problem sooner rather then later with things like Battlefront - There's no way it'll play that in its current state.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 22, 2015, 07:50:02 am
You know, the convo we had on here the other day got me thinking. Since the end of the 360/PS3 era, I've mainly just used my PC for gaming but I have been interested in getting a console eventually for the exclusives. After this E3, I was ready to get a PS4 but held off as there's not really enough there to keep me going till next year.

But, I'm now starting to wonder if it's even worth getting one now? Sure, I'll miss out on some exclusives, but looking down my list of games that interested me this E3, apart from one or two, they're all on PC. My only real worry is bringing my PC up to date as although it plays everything I've wanted so far with little problems, I can see it becoming a problem sooner rather then later with things like Battlefront - There's no way it'll play that in its current state.

What are the specs of your PC anyway? You'd be surprised.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 22, 2015, 09:24:29 am
It's a few years old and I built it myself. It's an i3 with a cheap graphics card (HD6670 or something...Can't remember exactly) it's served me well and played all of the games I want with little issues really, but after this E3 I'm certain I'll need an upgrade soon. I'm fine with that, but buying a PS4 too seems a bit...well, redundant.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: crackdude on June 22, 2015, 10:51:11 am
It's a few years old and I built it myself. It's an i3 with a cheap graphics card (HD6670 or something...Can't remember exactly) it's served me well and played all of the games I want with little issues really, but after this E3 I'm certain I'll need an upgrade soon. I'm fine with that, but buying a PS4 too seems a bit...well, redundant.
Get an i7 of the same socket, they should be cheap by now. And couple that with a decent GPU. BAM, new PC for cheap
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 22, 2015, 11:02:19 am
Get an i7 of the same socket, they should be cheap by now. And couple that with a decent GPU. BAM, new PC for cheap

That's my thinking too. Battlefront is something I want to play and I'll basically need to upgrade to get frostbite 3 working and that doesn't need a huge upgrade really.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: crackdude on June 22, 2015, 11:25:46 am
New processors are overhyped. We've reached a point where they are sufficient for 5-7 years
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 23, 2015, 03:55:45 am
So I guess Horizon has been in development for 4 years by the main Guerrilla team, started work right after Killzone 3. Killzone: Shadow Fall was done by a side team.

Now I'm a bit more interested to see what they can do in 4 years.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1068814   
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Spock on June 23, 2015, 06:18:18 pm
Is Sega releasing a Jurrassic World game?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 23, 2015, 07:25:46 pm
They haven't done one since the Model 3 game, I don't think. :cop:
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 24, 2015, 02:44:33 pm
Just listened to the bombcast and they talk about Starfox 0...yeah, not good. One called it a 3DS game, the other said the controls are awful and they're sure you can't use the pro controller and the transformations just take away the core mechanics of Starfox and adds nothing. *sigh* another Starfox game Nintendo throw into the fan.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 24, 2015, 03:38:54 pm
That's a issue, isn't it? I mean, Nintendo has to always have something to sell a game now. Sometimes the ideas work: Splatoon and sometimes it just isn't needed: Starfox Zero.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 24, 2015, 04:34:18 pm
That's the sad thing, they don't. They seem to think they NEED a hook for every console and game when they really don't. I mean, if the NX is revealed next E3 and it's literally a strong console with the pro controller, I think people would scream at the fact Nintendo finally get it. Splatoon for example is good fun, but that the pad etc doesn't add anything. It's just a fun game. If they spent more money on new titles instead of just hoping gimmicky stuff might stick.

Starfox was easy to do. People love the N64 one, and that's all they wanted again. Another adventure like that. But, nope.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 24, 2015, 04:51:26 pm
Well, I can tell you right now that NX will have a new gimmick being labeled as a innovation if all the PR speak about the console is correct.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 24, 2015, 04:58:20 pm
Yup, which is why I'm just done with Nintendo now. Since they sold Rare I've had little reason to bother with them, but the Wii and Wii u have been the worst consoles ever for me.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Dr. SEGA Monkey on June 24, 2015, 07:35:42 pm
Does anybody know if Star Fox Zero at least keeps the ship damage from the N64 game? (Like the ship's wings would get destroyed and would impact your flying.) It was actually a really cool part of the game.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 24, 2015, 07:43:32 pm
Well, I can tell you right now that NX will have a new gimmick being labeled as a innovation if all the PR speak about the console is correct.

They'll probably jump onto the VR scene and claim that they're the first to make it fun, haha.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 27, 2015, 03:59:19 am
The new hitman sounds terrible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw_QzpVKLDk
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Happy Cat on June 27, 2015, 06:31:41 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/rqKkPCZ.jpg)

someone isn't happy. i guess this explains why the game wasn't at E3. Nintendo America doesn't seem to care. No Amiibo, no Mario, rated M = no interest.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: pirovash88 on June 27, 2015, 10:54:56 pm
I would laugh if this game gets ported to XBOX and PlayStation.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 28, 2015, 12:04:12 am
Poor Itagaki, didn't get any love from his publisher at E3. Honestly, he picked the wrong console to pu this game on. Should have been a Playstation 4 exclusive.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: TimmiT on June 28, 2015, 08:28:35 am
Poor Itagaki, didn't get any love from his publisher at E3. Honestly, he picked the wrong console to pu this game on. Should have been a Playstation 4 exclusive.
It probably isn't as simple as "shouldn't have made it a Wii U exclusive". I mean, it could also have been that a lot of publishers weren't interested and that Nintendo was one of the better options. If Sony wasn't interested, then there probably would have been no chance of it being exclusive to PS4 at all.

Not sure why the game would have to be exclusive to one platform at all though.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 28, 2015, 01:08:44 pm
So, the battlefront closed beta is out and from what I've heard, it's terrible. Really old school ideas of pick up powerups and you can no longer be a pilot. It's been reduced to a perk depending on how many kill streaks you get...
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Spock on June 28, 2015, 03:09:29 pm
I think we all know Fallout 4 is the most anticipated game from E3 this year. I have been playing the other Fallout games recently. Which Fallout game is your favorite, everyone?
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 28, 2015, 04:13:43 pm
Despite owning all but Vegas (older ones were free on GoG), I've only played fallout 3 and only got so far. I just felt like it was a chore more than fun to play. Vegas was apparently much better though and this new one looks more fun as you can actually use the scrap you collect etc.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 29, 2015, 08:00:38 am
The new hitman sounds terrible:

First of all I fucking HATE when someone makes a game that's actually like the eighth in the series but just names it the same as the first one. It makes searching for the original a nightmare and it's just dumb and leaves a bad taste in my mouth (especially because it's usually far worse or such a huge departure, See: Devil May Cry, Tomb Raider, probably DOOM too)

As far as this game goes, it sounds a bit gimmicky. I hate to say it, but I wish they just made a fucking Hitman game. What's the story with all the evolving digital content etc? Sounds like pie in the sky dreams that'll end up just being 'Lots and lots of DLC' in practice.

I really hope I'm wrong and it turns out fun, but I have my doubts. I mean, is all this content going to require a subscription fee? Or is it going to be really lazy randomly generated maps and targets  once a month?

(http://i.imgur.com/rqKkPCZ.jpg)

someone isn't happy. i guess this explains why the game wasn't at E3. Nintendo America doesn't seem to care. No Amiibo, no Mario, rated M = no interest.

Wait, Nintendo wasn't going to release the game in Western markets or something?


So, the battlefront closed beta is out and from what I've heard, it's terrible. Really old school ideas of pick up powerups and you can no longer be a pilot. It's been reduced to a perk depending on how many kill streaks you get...

Never played the old ones, but saw lots of people concerned about this game. Sounds like their fears were founded :(

I think we all know Fallout 4 is the most anticipated game from E3 this year. I have been playing the other Fallout games recently. Which Fallout game is your favorite, everyone?

I actually think it looks like pure trash tbh.

Despite owning all but Vegas (older ones were free on GoG), I've only played fallout 3 and only got so far. I just felt like it was a chore more than fun to play. Vegas was apparently much better though and this new one looks more fun as you can actually use the scrap you collect etc.

Try New Vegas, I thought FO3 was the worst of the series. Moody thinks it's her favourite though, so your mileage may vary.

Actually, scratch that, try 1 and 2 first. They are amazing games, just be prepared for old school mechanics. Ask us for tips, as a lot of it is 'In the manual' as old games used to do.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 29, 2015, 08:12:39 am
The new hitman sounds terrible:

Square Enix, you were doing so well...

After Absolution... ARGHWARGHARGHWAAAAAAAH!
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 29, 2015, 08:17:25 am
Square Enix, you were doing so well...

After Absolution... ARGHWARGHARGHWAAAAAAAH!

Just do what I did and play all the old ones. Hitman: Agent 47 is still baller to this day.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: George on June 29, 2015, 08:39:30 pm
A few things I hate about this approach:

- Releasing the game with a incomplete story mode on launch and 'timed' events will basically mean that there is no way for a review to properly review the game.
- All these 'timed hits' that only show up 'once' and never again will mean they are forcing fans to pick up the game day one so they won't miss out on a hit, this will mean that you can't wait for the game to be 'complete (story wise)' because you'll end up missing hits aka content.
- There won't be a print copy till its all said and done.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Aki-at on June 29, 2015, 08:44:58 pm
I hate it because it's giving developers even more ideas about releasing half-finished games. Give an inch they'll take a mile and all that.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Moody on June 29, 2015, 08:53:19 pm
Actually, scratch that, try 1 and 2 first. They are amazing games, just be prepared for old school mechanics. Ask us for tips, as a lot of it is 'In the manual' as old games used to do.

You just reminded me that I need to get back to playing the first one, and yeah it is super archaic, practically no PC games function like Fallout 1 and 2 do nowadays. It's almost like an RTS but you're controlling one frail unit and the interface was lifted straight out of the earliest point and click games.

As for Hitman...I kind of agree it looks like ass. Never been the biggest Hitman fan, I only just started playing Absolution a week ago, but this sounds like all kinds of shady. If they're gonna do something like this, why not just make it an episodic game? That sounds more reasonable than whatever this is.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Nirmugen on June 29, 2015, 10:19:11 pm
Well, with that game is almost like the devs are trying to appeal and mix the console market with the F2P one.

I mean, mostly all the F2P are half-maded during the first 2/3 months after launch. The benefits are that because the game is free, you can wait to play later with more content if you didn't like how it begun.

I can't say the same thing with the Hit man or Splatoon approach.

Investing 50$/60$ force you to wait and that's could let a bad taste from the get go.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: Tad on June 30, 2015, 04:26:50 am
It's sort of what Destiny tried to do and fell flat on its arse because of it. I've heard people play it and say it's okay, but none of them would recommend it.
Title: Re: E3 2015
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 30, 2015, 07:57:45 am
I hate it because it's giving developers even more ideas about releasing half-finished games. Give an inch they'll take a mile and all that.

I feel like it's a concept that could work for a subscription based thing, like the old shareware days. You get the first level for free, then buy in instalments or pay a subscription for regular service like an MMO. But this sounds like some weird hybrid of that and paying full price at launch :/

You just reminded me that I need to get back to playing the first one, and yeah it is super archaic, practically no PC games function like Fallout 1 and 2 do nowadays. It's almost like an RTS but you're controlling one frail unit and the interface was lifted straight out of the earliest point and click games.

As for Hitman...I kind of agree it looks like ass. Never been the biggest Hitman fan, I only just started playing Absolution a week ago, but this sounds like all kinds of shady. If they're gonna do something like this, why not just make it an episodic game? That sounds more reasonable than whatever this is.

Oh man, Fallout 1 and 2 felt super ancient first time I played them, but it was so, so worth persevering. After the first town you'll get the hang of it. The penny dropped for me when I realised I should read the manual because these were games from a time before tutorials were a thing and you were expected to read the nice pretty booklet that came in the box first.

Learning how the Action Points worked and what all the buttons were, and how to use all the skills made a big difference. It quickly becomes second nature.

The Fallout games closest equivalent in modern mainstream games are probably the Xcom games. At least in terms of combat they play similar as they are Tactical/Strategy RPGs. You have the grid layout and a limited number of action points in a turn based setting. It's not so different to stuff like classic Shining Force or Banner Saga imo. I think that the new Shadowrun is similar too?

As for Hitman, if you've only played Absolution, understand that Absolution is the black sheep of the series. I understand it plays nothing like the old games and many were really unhappy with it. Try out the old games if you can. Even the old one is really quite brilliant in it's open ended nature and gameplay. You're basically dropped in a  massive map and given free reign to use multiple tools and strategies to get your target. It's really quite brilliant.