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Off Topic => Everything Else => Topic started by: cube_b3 on September 10, 2013, 11:58:59 pm
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Actor = Actress
Businessman = Businesswoman (by Barry)
Steward = Stewardess (by Barry)
Gigilo = Prostitute (Aki-At/CrackDude)
Host = Hostess (Beauteous not a forum member)
Orderly = Nurse (Beauteous)
Waiter = Waitress
Your turn.
Please don't go neological and make up examples like:
Doctor = Doctress
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I think most professions in the modern day world acknowledge gender, doesn't mean they need to use a different name for females that work in the profession.
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Agreed. Profession names that acknowledge gender are falling out of style, at least in America, I think. It helps that most professions don't even acknowledge gender unless the term "man" or "men" is used. In that case, there is a businessman and a businesswoman. There is a gender neutral version, "businessperson", but it isn't as widely used. Personally I don't think it is necessary to differentiate the two, unless you're referring to a specific person. For example, it would make more sense to say "Carol is an assertive businesswoman." than "Carol is an assertive businessperson". A gender neutral term also simplifies things and includes everybody. Saying "Several businesspeople are outside" is easier to say and more concise than "Several businessmen and businesswoman (or businessmen and women) are outside".
When it comes to a waiter or a steward, I really do not think "waitress" or "stewardess" are necessary unless again you are referring to a specific person and their gender. In the general sense, men and women can be waiters and stewards, but should you be at a restaurant and your waitress passes by and you do not know her name, you're likely to say "Excuse me, waitress, could I have the check?"
There are several professions that don't cite gender, thankfully. I think it's great, as it doesn't show a bias towards one gender. For example, as I mentioned, for the longest time the idea of a businesswoman was laughable, which is unfortunate. At least terms like doctor, nurse, manager, etc. are not referring to a specific gender.
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Yes, I know and I agree as well.
A couple of years back in Pakistan only, I heard a feminist conversation on the radio where some "actress" was discussing why are we labeled that way. We are all actors. I bought in to that argument, but yesterday I discovered the word waitress.
Now I had always been aware of the word, but for some reason it triggered a flashback and I made this thread just to see how many professions we could have that acknowledge gender, even if the trend is going out of fashion.
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prostitute = male prostitute
it works the other way around in some cases
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Women can be waiters. Waiters are people of all genders just as actors are people of all gender.
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prostitute = male prostitute
it works the other way around in some cases
Actually the male term is gigolo.
Now go out and use that word... Gigolodude!
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Women can be waiters. Waiters are people of all genders just as actors are people of all gender.
True. No argument from me.
Prior to the word being brought to my attention I probably wasn't differentiating between waiter and waitress.
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Anyway I was speaking to a friend about this ridiculous list I was compiling and she helped with a few more professions.
One thing that is always characterized by gender at least in my part of the world is Air Host and Air Hostess, off course the gender neutral term is Flight Attendant. Although we will need one of our Brit and American members to clarify if it isn't a biscuit/cookie kind of thing. Anyway we concluded that the word host and hostess is always used even if air host and air hostess isn't used.
Another one we found was "Orderly" and "Nurse", now these two are much more interesting as they are associate with the same field which is "Health Care Providers" but are fundamentally distinct as well. A Nurse as we all know are very qualified and licensed care givers. Orderlies are less qualified and don't necessarily have a license and they are primarily used for muscle.
I personally consider male nurses orderlies, when I was working in a mental asylum I found the labels associated with them to be orderlies or clinical assistants, occupational therapists etc etc. In Rehab Centers and places that I have worked at we generally avoided calling dudes nurses.
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I just made this thread for pointless giggles but we are surprisingly heading into a serious analytical direction. Let's keep it light.
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Baron/Baroness
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What is a Baron?
Wikipedia
Baron is a title of honour, often hereditary, and ranked as one of the lowest titles in the various nobiliary systems of Europe.
Hmmm
free dictionary:
bar·on·ess (br-ns)
n.
1.
a. The wife or widow of a baron.
b. A woman holding the title to a barony.
2. Used as the title for such a noblewoman.
hmmm
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What is a Baron?
Wikipedia
Hmmm
free dictionary:
hmmm
What are you thinking Mr.Cube? I'm not either of those! XD
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It is just a new word to me, was trying to understand it.
I am not well versed with nobility system of Europe.
I recently learned that an owner of an estate is Lord and his son is a Duke.
I suppose we have
Lord = Lordess
Duke = Dutchess
Baron = Baroness
But are these professions?
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Those are titles, Sir Stupid.
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Those are titles, Sir Stupid.
This made me laugh more than I care to admit. XD