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Title: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: crackdude on March 02, 2011, 04:52:20 pm
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During his GDC 2011 panel, Shenmue creator Yu Suzuki said "I think Sega will let me make it," referring to the long-awaited Shenmue 3. However, it's not a guarantee. He couched the discussion by saying it's contingent on budget issues -- by the way, Suzuki said that Shenmue cost $47 million to make, not the patently ridiculous $70 million Sega quoted -- and that he basically could only be sure that 200 people (the people in the room) would buy it.

So it probably won't amount to anything. But Yu Suzuki just sustained our hopes of continued Shenmue regardless.

Source (http://http://www.joystiq.com/2011/03/02/yu-suzuki-i-think-segas-going-to-let-me-make-shenmue-3/)
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Sharky on March 02, 2011, 06:18:33 pm
It was Yu Suzuki himself that said Shenmue cost $70 and he was talking about the expenses of both games + everything else.

Now I assume he is talking about the development of Shenmue 1 alone and who ever wrote this is just being a dumb fuck.

Which makes me wonder what else he's miss understood about what Yu Suzuki was saying.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Centrale on March 02, 2011, 07:13:33 pm
Perhaps it was $47 million for development of Shenmue, and $23 million for Yu Suzuki's Ferrari collection.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Nathan on March 02, 2011, 10:21:27 pm
AWESOME NEWS.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: max_cady on March 03, 2011, 07:57:16 am
Well, if anything there seems to be a change in Sega's stance.

It's been years since Sega and Yu Suzuki have spoken publicicly about that particular franchise. They have both remained coy.

The mere fact that Yu Suzuki is now actually speaking more freely about Shenmue, moreso than the previous five years, seems at least, to me, an indication that something has changed.

It still doesn't mean anything, but it's a start...
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Team Andromeda on March 03, 2011, 08:08:47 am
Quote from: "Centrale"
Perhaps it was $47 million for development of Shenmue, and $23 million for Yu Suzuki's Ferrari collection.

$47 million is just for the DC versions, the Japanese version of Shenmue cost SEGA over $20. The project has whole cost SEGA over $70 million and that's not just from the man himself( in english no less)

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 but also confirmed by Kat's Sato in the official Dreamcast magazine March 2001 .

(http://http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5136/5493890277_67fdbf53a1_b.jpg)

(http://http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5093/5493889611_e32748b3be_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Barry the Nomad on March 03, 2011, 09:20:02 am
What I'd love to see is Shenmue 1 show up in the next round of Dreamcast Collection titles, then Shenmue 2 release as a Games on Demand title THEN have MS fund a Shenmue 3. Not that I'm hating on Sony, but there are more than enough SEGA exclusives on the PS3, and I really do think exclusivity will help Shenmue 3 as it means a console manufacturer could help fund the game. MS has money, and Shenmue has already been an XBOX title, so it seems like a good fit. Add in some optional Kinect activities (darts, that QTE punching game) and baby, you've got a game going.

Seriously, the game is an assured hit. I cannot imagine the game NOT selling well in today's world. So many people have Shenmue fever, and need a cure.

And hey! Why not release Shenmue Town to the iPhone and Windows Phone 7? Have the Windows Phone version be able to link up with the console games and unlock new goodies? Like earning toy capsules on the phone = toy capsules in Shenmue 1, or there could be exclusive move scrolls that can be found on the phone and used in Shenmue 3?

I'm an iOS man myself, though even I have to admit this would be very awesome:

(http://http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3604/90708358.jpg)
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: cube_b3 on March 03, 2011, 09:23:33 am
But 360 sucks eggs in Japan. I think PS3 is more Jap game friendly and I hate the 360.

That said, Shenmue 3 would be the 2nd worthwhile exclusive for it.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Team Andromeda on March 03, 2011, 09:53:07 am
Quote from: "cube_b3"
But 360 sucks eggs in Japan. I think PS3 is more Jap game friendly and I hate the 360.

That said, Shenmue 3 would be the 2nd worthwhile exclusive for it.

Shenmue main market in terms of sales in the USA. Shenmue II was total flop in Japan on the DC . Imo SEGA should fund Shemue III and IV them self's ; Given AM2 and Yakuza Team the task of developing the title and make it Multi Platform (so everyone wins)

I'm sure a Multi Platform Shenmue would sell over a Million easy, shame it may never happen
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Barry the Nomad on March 03, 2011, 10:05:23 am
Oh yeah, I'm all for multiplatform, but if it means the game going exclusive in order to receive additional funding and be made, I'm all for that too. Of course, being a 360 owner, I lean 360 when it comes to exclusivity preference, but like TA said, Shenmue's main market is the US and Europe. And in the US, 360 is king.

Oh, and try not referring to Japanese games as "Jap", it has a derogatory meaning. Rather, use "JP" or "Japanese". :)
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: MadeManG74 on March 03, 2011, 01:36:43 pm
So anyway, Shenmue isn't popular with those yellow nips over in ...

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Oh, and try not referring to Japanese games as "Jap", it has a derogatory meaning. Rather, use "JP" or "Japanese". :)

Oh sorry.

Erm, anyway I don't think Shenmue is the kinda game that MS would jump in to fund for exclusivity. They might help out with marketing and all that etc if there were some Kinect functions, but I would rather see Sega make it multi-platform.It seems like a direct hit to us, but I'm still not entirely sure it would be huge. It would likely sell well (if sega gets the marketing right especially), but HUGE? Maybe not.

In any event, it's still pretty vague and I'm not really getting my hopes too high just yet. Hopefully there is some kind of follow up to this.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Barry the Nomad on March 03, 2011, 02:47:00 pm
MadeManG74 banned! Goddamn kangaroo face.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Nathan on March 03, 2011, 02:47:50 pm
Quote from: "Team Andromeda"
Quote from: "cube_b3"
But 360 sucks eggs in Japan. I think PS3 is more Jap game friendly and I hate the 360.

That said, Shenmue 3 would be the 2nd worthwhile exclusive for it.

Shenmue main market in terms of sales in the USA. Shenmue II was total flop in Japan on the DC . Imo SEGA should fund Shemue III and IV them self's ; Given AM2 and Yakuza Team the task of developing the title and make it Multi Platform (so everyone wins)

I'm sure a Multi Platform Shenmue would sell over a Million easy, shame it may never happen


I wouldn't call it a total flop, it sold about 127,000 copies on Dreamcast, I think. Not great, but not completely awful.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Centrale on March 03, 2011, 03:04:21 pm
I would expect Shenmue III to sell between 100,000 and 200,000, although I would hope for a lot more.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: max_cady on March 03, 2011, 06:05:23 pm
I'd wager it would make Alan Wake numbers... But if budget is the only thing standing in the game's eventual release, by all means, Yu Suzuki, if you want this done, make as many consessions as possible. Whatever works...
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Sega Uranus on March 03, 2011, 06:37:22 pm
I really would just prefer they use the same or very similar assets. I mean, making the best graphics games will see for 6+ years is one thing, but doing it all over again does not make much sense for a game they know would not be a huge seller.

And I would probably get it on all available platforms, but I would prefer it on the Xbox 360 myself. Dreamcast stuff just fits perfectly with the platform, even the controller is very similar.

Kind of off topic, but one of my favorite things about Shenmue is how you can slightly hold down on the right trigger to walk while you look around with the left analog stick. I mean, walking slowly while looking around in all directions is something everyone does when they are touring a place, and Shenmue is literally the only game I can think of that does it. I could not imagine doing this with that Goddamn R2 trigger-stub thing the PlayStation 3 has.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Nathan on March 03, 2011, 07:58:47 pm
Yup. ^

But with the right marketing and people lining up to see what the years upon years of fuss is about is bound to pique at least some interest. I think sales would be considerably higher. Maybe not enough to constitute another game or a AAA release, but higher than Shenmue II ever did.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Essay on March 03, 2011, 10:56:15 pm
I think one of the biggest mistakes Sega made was putting Shenmue II on the Xbox.  At the time, it seemed to make some sense.  It appeared that most western Dreamcast owners were making the switch to the Xbox.  Naturally, a lot of the Dreamcast-esque hardcore games found their way over to it.

I think Sega and Microsoft misjudged just how many Sega fans would purchase both Xbox and Shenmue II (or how many original Xbox owners would take to Yu's sequel).

Nevertheless, the style and substance of Shenmue just screamed to be put on PS2--I think it would have sold pretty well in Japan, and couldn't have sold any less than it did for western markets (the install base alone in Europe, North America, and Japan could have helped give the game a wider audience).

(http://http://shenmuelegend.users.btopenworld.com/images/ad2us.jpg)

Though I suppose when you see an advertisement like this with the impending release of the game, you have to scratch your head: ...So, when they killed your father--that wasn't personal enough?  :|
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: George on March 03, 2011, 11:01:51 pm
New assets man. I want to see some realistic physics on Joy *-*
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: SOUP on March 03, 2011, 11:05:58 pm
I'm just happy to see him talking about the possibility of Shenmue 3 in public.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: crackdude on March 04, 2011, 12:10:37 am
Yu Suzuki reveals Shenmue's ending.
WARNING SPOILERS

[youtube:1v96oj7c]gNyYBn-f9w4[/youtube:1v96oj7c]

As I always thought it would end.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: MadeManG74 on March 04, 2011, 03:08:08 pm
Is this video a joke? I haven't watched it, but it's Mega64 related...
Tell me because i dont' really want to spoil it!
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Barry the Nomad on March 04, 2011, 03:55:29 pm
It's a joke, and it's hard to understand a good portion of it due to the camera being far from the stage.

Though Yu does appear at the end to talk, but not spoiling Shenmue 3.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Sharky on March 04, 2011, 06:03:32 pm
I was also worried the end was leaked and I'd have to spend the rest of my life trying to dodge the bullet.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: crackdude on March 04, 2011, 06:25:25 pm
As it turns out in the end Ryo DOES hoverboard to the States for the Forklift Gran Prix to maximize his tree-punching technique.

Also, that's actually Yu Suzuki doing the narration I think.

EDIT: It seems the vid was removed.. It was funny though..
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Team Andromeda on March 05, 2011, 01:42:19 am
Quote from: "Barry the Nomad"
Oh yeah, I'm all for multiplatform, but if it means the game going exclusive in order to receive additional funding and be made, I'm all for that too. Of course, being a 360 owner, I lean 360 when it comes to exclusivity preference, but like TA said, Shenmue's main market is the US and Europe. And in the US, 360 is king.


Oh if a Shemue III was ever to be made, the last thing I want, would for it to be an exclusive and there for turn in to a Fanboy flame war and give so many another excuse to stick the boot into SEGA. The game is far too important for that, make it Multi Platform 360/PS3  and give people the chance to play it , be they 360 or PS3 owners

Yu doesn't tend to talk like this unless something is planned. Maybe the dream will come true
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Emmett The Crab on March 05, 2011, 01:46:45 am
I'd be happy with any console release.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: cube_b3 on March 05, 2011, 05:29:20 am
Or maybe it is all promotion for ShenmueVille
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Sharky on March 05, 2011, 10:46:08 am
Yeah I am a little worried that, he is using this kind of shenmue 3 talk to get everyone excited about Shenmue World...

Its good publicity and gets everyone talking.

I'd like to think Yu Suzuki is above that though.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Centrale on March 05, 2011, 11:39:27 am
Well, it's all cyclical, ain't it?  He gets people hyped for ShenmueTown, which in turn provides empirical evidence for the potential fanbase of Shenmue III.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: cube_b3 on March 05, 2011, 01:04:27 pm
I love how three posters back to back referred to Shenmue Gai with three separate names they would like it to be localized.

I am pretty sure that Suzuki Sama has ruled Shenmue World and Shenmue City out but Shenmue Town and ShenmueVille are still in the running.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: max_cady on March 05, 2011, 06:21:27 pm
Quote from: "Centrale"
Well, it's all cyclical, ain't it?  He gets people hyped for ShenmueTown, which in turn provides empirical evidence for the potential fanbase of Shenmue III.

To be fair, there were far more trivial things that kept people ralling for Shenmue 3 over the years.

Such as: Shenmue 3 might appear in _____(insert name of event).
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Nathan on March 06, 2011, 10:29:21 pm
Quote from: "cube_b3"
I love how three posters back to back referred to Shenmue Gai with three separate names they would like it to be localized.

I am pretty sure that Suzuki Sama has ruled Shenmue World and Shenmue City out but Shenmue Town and ShenmueVille are still in the running.

Did you not read the interview where he said Shenmue World was a tentative title for the west?
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: cube_b3 on March 07, 2011, 05:42:39 am
I read the excerpt where he said it isn't big enough to be called world.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Nathan on March 08, 2011, 09:27:04 am
Did I miss something? He said in 1UP that Shenmue World is a tentative title for the west.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Sharky on March 08, 2011, 08:26:21 pm
He has said multiple times that Shenmue World is the most likely title. Don't know where Cube got that from.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Centrale on March 09, 2011, 12:50:07 am
I don't remember exactly either, but I heard the same thing cube did... he's leaning more toward 'city' or 'town' rather than 'world.'  Although a while back he did mention 'world,' some time in the past week or two, the latest word was more small-scale.  bleh, my mind is fried right now from too much work, but yeah...
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: cube_b3 on March 09, 2011, 07:22:13 am
Quote from: "Sharky"
He has said multiple times that Shenmue World is the most likely title. Don't know where Cube got that from.

SegaBits.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: max_cady on March 09, 2011, 09:01:31 am
Hmm... Looking at Yu Suzuki's statements, I'm starting to think that was just either joking or making some sort of satirical remark.
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: Sharky on March 09, 2011, 02:57:13 pm
Quote from: "cube_b3"
Quote from: "Sharky"
He has said multiple times that Shenmue World is the most likely title. Don't know where Cube got that from.

SegaBits.

Link?
Title: Re: Yu Suzuki: 'I think Sega's going to let me' make Shenmue 3
Post by: MadeManG74 on March 10, 2011, 01:49:30 am
Quote from: "Sharky"
Quote from: "cube_b3"
Quote from: "Sharky"
He has said multiple times that Shenmue World is the most likely title. Don't know where Cube got that from.

SegaBits.

Link?

Here ya go buddy (http://http://www.segabits.com/)