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Title: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on February 07, 2012, 07:46:50 am
It's 2012! That means a slew of big budget movies are heading our way, some will suck, some will be okay and a few will rule. Here are a few of the big ones, there are more obviously, but I'm going mainly for the big franchise films and comic book movies:

Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance - February 17th
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2f/Ghost_Rider_2_Poster.jpg)

The Secret World of Arrietty - February 17th
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e7/Karigurashi_no_Arrietty_poster.png)

The Avengers - May 4th
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f9/TheAvengers2012Poster.jpg)

Men in Black III - May 25th

Prometheus - June 8th
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Prometheusposterfixed.jpg)

The Amazing Spider-Man - July 3rd

The Dark Knight Rises - July 20th
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/83/Dark_knight_rises_poster.jpg)

The Bourne Legacy - August 3rd

Resident Evil: Retribution - September 14th

Dredd - September 21st

James Bond: Skyfall - November 9th

The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part II <- LOL NO!

The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - December 14th
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/TheHobbit.png)

Django Unchained - December 25th

Personally, I'm looking forward to only a hand full. The Secret World of Arrietty, Avengers, Dark Knight Rises, James Bond and The Hobbit. Also planning on seeing Phantom Menace in 3D this Saturday, but thats not a new movie.

One movie I am not into at all, despite seeing the trailer this morning, is The Amazing Spider-Man. I get it, it could be a decent or even good movie, but I just can't stop thinking "why?" throughout the trailer. WHY reboot the series just 10 years after the first film and five years after the last one? WHY not do what James Bond does and just dive into the world of Spider-Man with new actors but the have the past movies serve as a light basis for the new one? WHY hire a 28 year old to play a high school student? WHY shift around all the character's roles? WHY make Peter's dad a scientist (I'm assuming Norman Osborn killed him)? It's another fucking origin story, only they intentionally moved things around and reassigned character's roles JUST to make it different enough from the first movie! Ugh. I'm sure I'll see it, but probably not in theaters because I'm too much of a cranky asshole.

So anyway... movies! :D
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Sharky on February 07, 2012, 08:34:40 am
I can't believe Ghost Rider did well enough for a sequal... It was never one of Marvels better ideas for a comic let alone a movie.

Also I saw Arrietty last year when it first released in Japan, not bad! But not one of my favourite Ghibli movies either.

I have to say of all I'm by far the most excited about The Hobbit. Followed by Prometheus. I'm curious to see Dredd, first I've heard of it actually... I suspect it's based on Judge Dredd!? Oh and curious about Men in Black 3.

But yeah... The Hobbit is going to be one of those movie moments of my life!!
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Chaosmaster8753 on February 07, 2012, 02:56:57 pm
Apparently, the Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney movie is being planned for a worldwide release at some point, I'm curious about it. As for other movies, I do know I'm interested in seeing Avengers, Dark Knight Rises, Spirit of Vengeance (it might suck, but whatever,) Arriety, Amazing Spider-Man, and whatever else catches my interest. Why am I such a sucker for these kind of movies?...
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on February 07, 2012, 02:57:37 pm
I heard the sequel is more dark, than the last one. I still want a new Spawn movie.

Anyway, 2012 is going to be awesome. I want to see Dark Knight Rises, The Avengers, The Hobbit, The Amazing Spider-man and Django Unchained (not listed).
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on February 07, 2012, 03:18:52 pm
Added Django Unchained, forgot about that one. Wes Anderson also has a new movie this year, but it doesn't really fall under the umbrella of "blockbuster movie" so I didn't include it. Though I did include Arrietty. :P

I'm really thinking Bane cripples Batman in Dark Knight Rises. The ending looks to have Batman flying around in this insane copter. He could easily be sitting down during that bit. Maybe the big secret is that he recruits somebody to fight for him, a sort of Robin character? Probably not gonna happen.. but it would be pretty crazy if it did.

Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on February 07, 2012, 04:10:42 pm
You mean Batman giving up his role to Azrael in Knightfall? Doubt it, I don't think movie goers would like to see this happen, won't be easy to repair.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: max_cady on February 07, 2012, 04:28:41 pm
Well, I won't add that much, but this year I'm kinda waiting to see how these movies play out:

-This Means War: I know, I know... But there's something True Lies-ish about it;
-Dark Shadows: Edgar Allan Poe tracking a killer that uses his own novels as his MO? Sold!
-Madagascar 3: It's weird, it's one of those animated CG films that have actually gotten better as time went on. The first one all the way back in 2005, was largely forgettable, but the second one was a huge improvement, so obviously I got my eye out for this one;


I also hope this the year, we finally see the new version of Red Dawn get an actual release date.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: MadeManG74 on February 07, 2012, 07:37:52 pm
I've never seen the first Ghost Rider, but heard it was hot garbage. I have a feeling the sequel isn't going to be great either, but I really really want to see. I just recently got into the character, and I think theres potential to make an awesome movie out of it. If nothing else, the action scenes look like they'll be good.
Also Sharky, why don't you think Ghost Rider is a good character? Personally it's one of my favourite concepts, someone selling their soul to the devil and then being binded to a demon and basically just becoming a bad-ass biker that spits hellfire and uses the chains of hell to wreck everyone's shit. Also, he's really fun in Ultimate MVC3.

Apart from that Dark Knight Rises will of course be good, not sure how it'll pan out, and I'm not really following it that closely. Hopefully i'll be nicely surprised. I hope even more that this means the next movie is Dark Knight Returns starring Stallone as an old Batman.

I'm kind of in two minds about Avengers, from what I know about the movie they've made some changes that I can understand but don't like to the characters and... I dunno the movie just seems to have more of a cheese feel about it than the other movies in the franchise (except for Captain America which was cheese central and I didn't enjoy much).
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: SOUP on February 08, 2012, 11:12:32 am
This year's shaping up to be pretty great. A bunch of my favourite director's are all putting out new movies this year.
- Dark Knight Rises
- The Avengers
- Moonrise Kingdom

Cabin in the Woods is finally coming out :D.
The Secret World of Arriety getting a wide release is something I'm really excited for.
John Carter looks pretty interesting.
Django Unchained should be good times too.

I wasn't looking forward to Spider-man at all, but the trailer has me interested at least.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Sharky on February 08, 2012, 08:18:30 pm

Also Sharky, why don't you think Ghost Rider is a good character? Personally it's one of my favourite concepts, someone selling their soul to the devil and then being binded to a demon and basically just becoming a bad-ass biker that spits hellfire and uses the chains of hell to wreck everyone's shit. Also, he's really fun in Ultimate MVC3.

I've only seen the movie and it was total arse but it seems really out of place in their usual comic book hero universe.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: MadeManG74 on February 08, 2012, 11:21:38 pm
^Yeah the original movie looked baaaaaad, I haven't seen it. I almost want to just for laughs though.
As for not fitting in with Marvel overall, there's actually quite a bit of supernatural mythic/spiritual stuff going on in Marvel (Thor being a 'god', Dormammu, Mephisto, Azazel all being demonic entities etc.)
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: max_cady on February 09, 2012, 04:59:59 am
I've seen the original Ghost Rider aaanddd... Yeah, it's pretty bad. It's almost Catwoman bad.

From the paper thin plot to simply horrible performances. The new movie itself has me a bit cautious, mainly because it's been pretty much dumped in Febuary, like Sony did with Green Hornet.

Maybe the new one will be good.

The movie that has me puzzled, however, is John Carter. The movie will be out in March, nobody is talking about it, to people I talk to regularly about movies, we either talk about TDKR, the new Spiderman and many more. Nobody seems to be even aware about this one. And for a 200 million dollar Disney movie to have this much radio silence cannot be good.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: SOUP on February 09, 2012, 06:57:54 am
The movie that has me puzzled, however, is John Carter. The movie will be out in March, nobody is talking about it, to people I talk to regularly about movies, we either talk about TDKR, the new Spiderman and many more. Nobody seems to be even aware about this one. And for a 200 million dollar Disney movie to have this much radio silence cannot be good.

Not only that, but it's the same director as Finding Nemo and Wall-E. The guy even wrote Toy Story 3.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on February 09, 2012, 07:30:51 am
Ghost Rider gets a sequel, but Daredevil and Superman Returns do not? :(

At least the latter two were decent to good, Ghost Rider was crap.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: max_cady on February 09, 2012, 08:02:32 am
@SOUP

What? ***Checks IMDB*** Oh in that case I'm even more puzzled. Even moreso since it has an Avatar-like budget.

@BarrytheNomad

Superman Returns was actually not as bad as some have claimed it to be. But nevertheless it didn't make enough money.
Here's hoping for the The Man of Steel.

The Wolverine is also finally getting off the ground, as it would appear 20th Century Fox is finally getting their s*** together with the X-men series.
Daredevil and Fantastic Four have most likely gone back to Disney at this point.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on February 09, 2012, 08:08:35 am
Regarding Superman Returns, this article does a good job of summing up why the movie failed (despite me and others enjoying it) http://coronacomingattractions.com/news/why-did-superman-returns-fail-romanticism-and-religious-allegory-says-bryan-singer

From what I've seen of "Superman: Man of Steel", they've really gone off in a different direction, which is great! I'd hate to see a reboot that is still to close to the originals *cough*Spider-man*cough*
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on February 09, 2012, 01:03:42 pm
This is my hope for the new movies. I don't know the plot of the new one, but imo this is the best

Superman - Enemy: Lex Luthor. A great start, obviously.
Superman II: - Lex Luthor, Commander Zod
Superman III: - Doomsday/Death

That is if you are going the releastic route, I still think that a 'Doomsday' could be pulled off as gritty and realistic. I mean, Batman Dark Knight pulled it off with Joker and Scarecrow.

(http://i.imgur.com/DL6g7.jpg)
Commander Zod already has a perfect actor.

IMO, I think the death of Superman in comics was mishandled. Basically if I had to write the death and return of an iconic hero i'd make their Resurrection 'costly'. If you read the Superman aftermath, after his death, it was the 'Supermen'. Aka nonsense. Then for no reason he comes back from sleep. Fuck that. I wish they showed that its not just "Dude, I died.... not!" its a journey, sacrifice to bring someone back. The impossible made possible.

The problem with doing a Superman movie is that most of the character is his powers and those powers that were once unique and 'super cool' are not dated and overused. Lots of characters have Superman like powers. I think that makes Superman a 'hallow' character to most.

I sure hope none of the movie studios play the death/Resurrection with shit reason card.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Chaosmaster8753 on February 09, 2012, 02:50:10 pm
Does anyone think Darkseid would be a good villain for a Superman movie?
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on February 09, 2012, 03:21:07 pm
Bizarro Superman would make for a really fucked up and funny movie.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on February 09, 2012, 05:14:09 pm
Does anyone think Darkseid would be a good villain for a Superman movie?
Thanos's DC Comic brother.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: MadeManG74 on February 09, 2012, 05:26:39 pm
Ghost Rider gets a sequel, but Daredevil and Superman Returns do not? :(

At least the latter two were decent to good, Ghost Rider was crap.

No no no, I don't want a sequel to Daredevil! Same reason I don't want a sequel to Punisher. I want the rights to revert back to Marvel so that they can reboot the series with more accuracy and then make a glorious kick ass crossover movie based on 'Means and Ends'.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on February 09, 2012, 06:22:27 pm
Wha?They are 'working' on a Daredevil reboot over at 20th Century Fox. Well, they have been for two years, its probably dead. But last I heard Brad Caleb Kane (Fringe) was writing and Director David Slade (Twilight Eclipse and Hard Candy).
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: CosmicCastaway on February 09, 2012, 06:23:00 pm
max_cady mentioned John Carter and I agree with him how little excitement there is for such a big film. For those of you who don't know John Carter is actually an adaption of "A Princess of Mars" by Edgar Rice Borroughs. (The guy who created Tarzan) I find it funny that Disney felt the need to change the title. It'll be interesting to see how it turns out.
 
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Chaosmaster8753 on February 09, 2012, 06:56:34 pm
Thanos's DC Comic brother.

What exactly do they have in common?
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: CosmicCastaway on February 09, 2012, 07:00:13 pm
Well they are both nihilists and they are both really powerful antagonists. They also have a somewhat similar design.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: max_cady on February 10, 2012, 03:31:12 am
I have this suspision that they didn't use the name "John Carter from Mars", probably because of similarities between the name and another Disney movie that bombed pretty hard, Mars needs Moms, a 200 million dollars animated film that barely grossed more than 20 million dolars.

Speaking of Ghost Rider 2, here's a clip from the movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3CRnWAIVdY
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: MadeManG74 on February 10, 2012, 07:09:26 am
That has to be chopped up for a trailer right? That music and that editing... holy shit it's bad.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: SOUP on February 10, 2012, 08:46:58 am
max_cady mentioned John Carter and I agree with him how little excitement there is for such a big film. For those of you who don't know John Carter is actually an adaption of "A Princess of Mars" by Edgar Rice Borroughs. (The guy who created Tarzan) I find it funny that Disney felt the need to change the title. It'll be interesting to see how it turns out.

It's probably the same reason they changed the name of The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of the Unicorn to just The Adventures of Tintin in North America.  I think it's just them covering their asses if the movie tanks and they don't make another one. Or, they just assume audiences are dumb, and can't remember a title that long.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on February 11, 2012, 03:28:06 pm
Or that anything with the word Unicorn will make guys think the movie is gay. Though really, doesn't need the extra long title. The Adventures of Tin Tin is good enough.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on February 11, 2012, 03:52:01 pm
I missed the subtitle to Tintin, but I think dropping it made complete sense.

In the US, Tintin is unfortunately pretty unknown. So to push a movie titled "The Adventures of Tintin", thats enough of a title. Had they added "The Secret of the Unicorn", audiences would just get confused. They'd probably think it features actual unicorns and young boys would be turned off from the title. Nobody knows of the book by the same title. I actually think "Red Rachkam's Treasure" would have been a far better subtitle. Sounds cooler.

Still, the sequel will surely have a subtitle, I have my fingers crossed for "Prisoners of the Sun". It sounds really cool AND is a good story.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on February 11, 2012, 04:03:05 pm
Should have called it "Twilight of Wizards"

Capture the Twilight and Harry Potter people.

DONE AND DONE.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: max_cady on February 11, 2012, 05:26:58 pm
Tintin was likely going to bomb anyway. Very few foreign properties have had great sucess in the US.

Few French/Belgian classic comic book properties like Asterix, Spirou, Lucky Luke and Michelle Vaillant have had much footing.

Oddly enough, the only Belgian IP that seemed to be successful was The Smurfs.

Now out of 2012, I've never seen the Clash of the Titans remake, my best buds keep telling me to stay the heck away from it, hence the sequel is puzzling. A sequel to a movie that apparentely nobody liked.

But if anything I'm happy to see Will Smith again, since he's going to be in MIB 3.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Sharky on February 12, 2012, 10:35:59 am
I really with Asterix had taken off, it was always one of my favourite comics as a kid, I even visited the theme park in France and it was good fun.

Somewhere there is a photo of me standing next to Asterix.

I would love to see a CGI movie as well made as Tintin!
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: SOUP on February 12, 2012, 12:33:38 pm
Maybe I'm just taking for granted that Tintin's always been reasonably popular in Canada due to the cartoon.
I still think cropping the name is a bit of an insult to people's intelligence though. It would be like  The Fellowship of the Ring just being called The Lord of the Rings.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on February 12, 2012, 03:45:14 pm
Yet Pirates of the Caribbean was given the incredibly long title of "Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl". Who knows, maybe they just thought the full title was way too long.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: CosmicCastaway on February 12, 2012, 03:56:54 pm
Yet Pirates of the Caribbean was given the incredibly long title of "Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl". Who knows, maybe they just thought the full title was way too long.

They also sometimes change titles if they think it may alienate a certain group. That's why Disney changed Rapunzel to Tangled, they wanted a bigger male audience as well. I don't necessarily agree with these changes but I can see the logic behind them. 
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on February 12, 2012, 09:16:01 pm
I don't see how a subtitle on a poster before you go to see a movie matters. No one said 'Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl, do you want to go see it"


They where always like: "Hey, do you want to see that Pirate movie with Johnny Depp?"

Lets be real, Johnny Depp sold the movie. Should have just called it "Johnny Depp acting gay"

Also:
(http://i.imgur.com/rYcYu.jpg)
Why does Hollywood like to 'redesign' super heroes costumes and make them 'futuristic' and add little stupid shit like that belt buckle with no belt. Also he looks naked without the red underwear...
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: MadeManG74 on February 13, 2012, 01:37:03 am
*sigh* Expectations for Superman have gone down now too.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on February 13, 2012, 08:28:49 am
I thought the Superman Returns costume was pretty cool. I liked how it had hundreds of tiny S shields stamped into the shield. I also liked that they weren't afraid to use the red underwear (they're sort of a must, they tie the thing together) and I liked the slightly darkened colors.

(http://flickflackmovietalk.com/wp-content/uploads//2010/02/superman_returns_e.jpg)

This new one though... ugh. Seems the latest trend is to take a costume that has already worked and to fuck with it somehow. Like Amazing Spider-Man's weird lenses and silver shoes or Man of Steel's lack of belt/red pants.

On the subject of Superhero movies, I was curious as to what everyone's favorite Superhero movies are? Maybe top 3 or 5?

My list:
1 - The Dark Knight - not only a great superhero movie, this is a great movie period. Music, editing, story, acting. It's just such a fantastic and riveting experience. Probably one of the most realistic superhero movies too.

2 - Batman (1989) - A bit of a reverse Dark Knight, but everything still comes together fantastically. Much more of a comic book movie than Dark Knight, which I'd classify as more of a thriller/graphic novel movie. Again, music, editing, story and acting are all great. Keaton's Wayne/Batman is better than Bail's in this one, and Jack's Joker is a totally different Joker compared to Ledger, but still just as fascinating to watch.

3 - Spider-Man 2 - I love the pacing of this movie. S-M1 set everything up, and S-M2 just bursts out of the gate and runs with the already established world. Great villain, great fight scenes, great music and a real comic book feel.

4 - X2 - I really like the first X-Men, but X2 is the better film. Like Spider-Man 2, everything is established, so they jump right into the story. My only real complaint is that the third movie was a disappointment. Not awful, but not worthy of following X2.

5 - Watchmen: Director's Cut - It's not perfect, but it's the first real superhero epic. Rorschach is a fantastic character, and I loved how they had this whole past history that existed before the current events of the movie. Theres just so much crammed into this movie, that even if one thing doesn't work, about five other things do. The Black Freighter cartoon, which I saw separately, was so-so. Not as good out of context. But Under the Hood was a great watch and really expanded on the movie. The director's cut of the movie adds some much needed scenes, I loved Nite Owl fighting for his life while having flashbacks to the glory days.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on February 13, 2012, 03:22:40 pm
All I wish for the 'Superman Returns' actor, was that he was more ripped. The costume is cool, though I do like his bright red color... for some reason. Not that the darker one looked bad, less cheesy.

Does stuff like Sin City be considered 'Superhero' movie? Also doe serials from the 60's count?
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on February 13, 2012, 03:27:06 pm
Yeah man! I'd think any character with abilities that exceed normal humans can be superheroes. Shit goes on in SIn City that could never happen for real.
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Post by: George on February 13, 2012, 04:33:09 pm
I'm not into making list, so I will post just random comic movies I liked a lot:

- Adventures of Captain Marvel (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033317/) - Is it cheesy? Well its from the 40's, but for how old it is... its great. Every episode ends with a cliffhanger. Before the age of TV, must watch.
- Sin City: I loved the graphic novels and they stayed true. This is probably one of the better 'from comic' to 'movie' adaptation ever. Its true to the book.
- Watchmen: Who doesn't love the Watchmen. Even though the movie isn't EXACTLY like the comic, its entertaining and gets the job done.
- Black Mask: A Hong Kong action flick with Jet Li based on a comic? Yes please.
- Batman, Batman Returns, Batman Begins, Batman The Dark Knight (yes)
- Hellboy/II
- A History of Violence
- Kick-ass
- Spawn
- Men in Black
- Tales from the Crypt
- TMNT movies (1,2 and CGI one)
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: MadeManG74 on February 13, 2012, 06:24:31 pm
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Yeah man! I'd think any character with abilities that exceed normal humans can be superheroes.
Does Rambo count then?
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on February 13, 2012, 06:29:45 pm
Was it based on a comic? In the end of the day, Sin City is a comic or graphic novel. That is enough to set it in a  Super Hero movie genre for some.

Edit: Err,,, yeah Rambo is a 1947 comic.

http://www.comicvine.com/rambo/29-53419/
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Aki-at on February 14, 2012, 10:40:14 am
2012 is going to be a fantastic year for films, in particular the action genre, but I am sadden no one has mentioned the best film of the year. It's probably the last action film from the actor too, rumoured at least.

That's right...

None other then...

JACKIE CHAN'S CHINESE ZODIAC AKA ARMOUR OF GOD 3!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFLVI-7upus - teaser/production trailer.

My body is ready for the grand finale of Jackie.

PS He should have totally stayed making Chinese films instead of wasting his time in Hollywood with trash like the Medallion, Tuxedo and the Spy Next Door. New Police Story, Rob-b-hood and Little Big Soldier beat all those films in just the first 20 minutes.

Yeah man! I'd think any character with abilities that exceed normal humans can be superheroes. Shit goes on in SIn City that could never happen for real.

So wait, does this not blur the lines for a Jackie Chan film, no normal human can do those stunts, but Jackie Chan does those stunts, SO IS HE A REAL LIFE SUPERHERO?!?

*sigh* Expectations for Superman have gone down now too.

Yes, yes! JAJA! Fantastic! May Superman be buried forever and forgotten and the series is renamed Lex Luthorman starring Lex Luthor for 100 times more awesome!

Also ewwww at that Superman redesign, the constume even looks photoshopped on him.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on February 14, 2012, 10:59:08 am
Well, yeah, I mean Jackie Chan does shit in his movies that no man can do. Even Jackie in real life can't execute an entire scene flawlessly (as bloopers indicate). So he is both superhuman and a hero, thus: superhero.

Hey, if Batman gets the superhero label, Chan should.

However, the term "comic book movie" easily removes stuff like Rambo (which derives from a Novel, not a comic book) and Jackie Chan. So maybe I should have said "comic book movie" rahter than superhero earlier in the topic. Ah well.

And shit! Chan is making an AOTG3?! I loved his imports throughout the '90's (cheesy voice overs and all) but hated his American movies save for the first Shanghai Noon and the first Rush Hour. Those were fun.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: MadeManG74 on February 14, 2012, 02:33:51 pm
Yes, yes! JAJA! Fantastic! May Superman be buried forever and forgotten and the series is renamed Lex Luthorman starring Lex Luthor for 100 times more awesome!

Also ewwww at that Superman redesign, the constume even looks photoshopped on him.
I would so watch a Lex Luthor: Man of Steel movie.

As for Barry's earlier question about favourite comic book/superhero movies, I think it deserves it's own thread for one thing, and for another, I would have trouble picking mine. Most of my favourite Superheros/comic books haven't had great movie adaptions. I would say Blade 1 or 2 would be up there, maybe 2004 Punisher as well, despite the fact that it wasn't all that accurate to the source material. Does Oldboy count? It's based on a Manga...
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: max_cady on February 17, 2012, 05:26:48 am
Just read a couple of Ghost Rider 2 reviews... OUCH. Apparentely there's already a contender for worst superhero movie of 2012.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on February 17, 2012, 12:00:15 pm
Who would have thought?  ::)
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: MadeManG74 on February 19, 2012, 03:27:15 pm
Why is it so hard to make a cool movie about a flaming skeleton on a motorcycle? >:(
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on February 19, 2012, 04:12:56 pm
Boggles the mind that Thor wasn't shit... yet they can't seem to get how to do a Ghost Rider movie.  ???
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: CosmicCastaway on February 19, 2012, 09:05:15 pm
I just saw a trailer for the horror movie 7500.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6a2bzwVwew

Ghosts on a Plane! I might keep my eye on this one though, because horror movies with ghosts always give me the heebie jeebies.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Chaosmaster8753 on March 01, 2012, 10:29:02 pm
Damn, still haven't seen Arriety yet. Speaking of animated films, I sure most of the ones coming out this year turn out good. A few interesting ones are:

- (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3f/PiratesTeaserPoster.jpg)

I haven't seen Chicken Run, but I like Wallace and Gromit, and it's good to see Aardman making a claymation movie again.

- (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/db/Brave_Teaser_Poster.jpg)

I swear, the look of this movie reminds me so much of How to Train Your Dragon.

- (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f5/HotelTransylvania.jpg)

Genndy Tartakovsky is directing? I'm at least interested in learning more about it.

- (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/Frankenweenie_%282012_film%29_poster.jpg)

I should probably check out the original short sometime. Also, a new trailer came out today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cqI6hPra7c

- (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fa/Wreck-It_Ralph_logo.jpg)

Gotta admit, I was a little turned off hearing that it was about a stereotypical bad guy becoming/trying to be good after we already had Despicable Me and Megamind, but I'm willing to give it a chance as long as it tells its story well enough. Plus, it seems like it'll be the Who Framed Roger Rabbit for video game characters.

And I might wanna go see Finding Nemo in 3D.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on March 02, 2012, 07:31:37 am
Frankenweenie was one of my favorite short films as a kid, and I love Nightmare Before Christmas. So I'm really looking forward to Frankenweenie stop-motion. Extra points for not pushing 3D (doesn't even look like its in 3D) and keeping it black and white.

Brave looks like a return to form for Pixar. Brave has been in development for a while, so I don't think it is a reaction to Train Your Dragon. Looking forward to it!

Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on March 02, 2012, 12:34:09 pm
The return? Where did they go? Wall-e and up are brilliant films.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on March 02, 2012, 12:38:23 pm
The return? Where did they go? Wall-e and up are brilliant films.

They took a detour with Cars 2. I thought it was okay, but felt too much like a direct-to video sequel. At least writing-wise.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on March 02, 2012, 01:13:35 pm
Yeah, but terrible? Nah. Its one film, plus I didn't think the first Cars was brilliant.

Compare them to any other animation house, they are still the best in terms of quality per flick.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on March 02, 2012, 01:49:16 pm
True. Pixar actually hires talented voice actors, even if they aren't professional VA's, they always turn out a great performance. Also, characters don't do stupid fucking dances or drop pop culture references every five seconds.

Lorax looks godawful with Taylor Swift and Zac Efron as the stars. What?!?
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: MadeManG74 on March 03, 2012, 01:15:42 am
Someone was passing out flyers for this movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWlmhMSnVdM

I think I need to see this now...
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: max_cady on March 11, 2012, 06:52:25 pm
John Carter's underperforming at the Box Office. Can't say I didn't see that one coming.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on March 12, 2012, 07:44:15 am
The name is pretty lame. Yes, I get that John Carter is just a shortened version of "John Carter of Mars", but the full title is a LOT better than simply John Carter. Hell, you could create a legal thriller starring a lawyer named "John Carter". John Carter is not a very exciting title.

"Hey kids, wanna go see John Carter?!"
"... who?"

Looking up on Wikipedia, I'm seeing a lot of better titles from other books in the series:

The Gods of Mars
The Warlord of Mars
Swords of Mars

All of those are far better than simply "John Carter", at least in a movie title sense.

new MIB3 trailer, movie is looking really good! Loving the retro setting, the wheel bikes and time travel.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ7f3mYOY9Y[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on May 01, 2012, 12:10:00 pm
Fuuuuuuck yeaaaaaahhhh

[youtube]http://youtu.be/g8evyE9TuYk[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: max_cady on May 02, 2012, 07:54:54 am
Now that's what I'm talking about!

Bane's audio seems to have been tweaked. Catwoman's suit doesn't look as silly as the still pictures make it seem. The movie's apparentely going to be 2 hours and 40 minutes long. We better brace ourselves for what appears to a massive trilogy finale.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on May 02, 2012, 08:52:34 am
My guesses:

[spoiler]Bane breaks Batman's back, Batman is paralyzed but can still take the vehicles out. Joseph Gordon-Levitt is set to be Nightwing or a Batman Beyond sort of character. Catwoman is initially on Bane's side, she double crosses him and ends up being an enemy of Batman AND Bane.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on May 02, 2012, 01:44:51 pm
Well

[spoiler]If whats his name is set up to be Nightwing, why did they miss his most important story? The whole parents dying which is why Batman felt bad for him, saw himself in him. He could be Jean-Paul Valley.. but it seems he is playing a some cop role and doesn't fit in the arc. Again it could be changed. Though it seems that Catwoman will probably have a 'I have to save batman role' from the trailer. [/spoiler]
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: max_cady on May 04, 2012, 06:01:49 pm
Based on how great the reaction was for The Avengers and how the Internet exploded when the new TDKR trailer was released... I got the impression that everybody has forgotten about The Amazing Spider Man...
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on May 04, 2012, 06:03:13 pm
Based on how great the reaction was for The Avengers and how the Internet exploded when the new TDKR trailer was released... I got the impression that everybody has forgotten about The Amazing Spider Man...

Given the scope of the film (very small budget) and the fact that it's a reboot, I don't blame them. Really, I don't even think I'll see Spider-Man in theaters.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Chaosmaster8753 on May 04, 2012, 08:26:06 pm
I'm curious to see how Amazing Spider-Man and The Dark Knight Rises will turn out.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Aki-at on May 23, 2012, 05:40:00 pm
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc3Ab52uqM8[/youtube]

Never heard of this film until yesterday, now cannot wait. Gangster films set in the 1920s? Count me in every time!
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: max_cady on May 23, 2012, 06:51:49 pm
(http://i45.tinypic.com/157ci2f.gif)

F*** you Paramount! F*** YOU Paramount! F*** YOU PARAMOUNT! (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/170723-gi-joe-retaliation-delayed-until-2013)

At first, I thought this was a f***ing joke. But it's made rounds... GI Joe: Retaliation was going to get a Summer release this year on June 29th 2012, it's been pushed into March 23rd of 2013, because the execs decided to delay the movie at last minute in order to do a 3D conversion. The movie was suposse to be out in less than a month, with an insane amount of advertising, posters, interviews,etc.

Quote
"It is increasingly evident that 3D resonates with movie-goers globally and together with Paramount, we made the decision to bring fans an even more immersive entertainment experience," said Brian Goldner, Hasbro's President and CEO in an official statement.

Hasbro decided that they simply don't like money anymore.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: MadeManG74 on May 23, 2012, 09:32:25 pm
People were looking forward to a GI Joe movie?
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on May 23, 2012, 11:35:02 pm
Yeah, I didn't like the first one. So I'm alright.

This Japanese movie looks rather awesome:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7W1ZvH0_VA[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: max_cady on May 24, 2012, 05:00:53 am
People were looking forward to a GI Joe movie?

I was, till news piece came along. For several reasons:
1- This was what the first movie should've been, much closer to the source material;
2- Dwayne Johnson is a great asset right now for many movie studios, even if you put him in a movie like Journey 2, which was expected to fail;
3- Snake Eyes, Dwayne and Bruce Willis in the same movie;
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Aki-at on May 24, 2012, 05:13:38 am
Yeah, I didn't like the first one. So I'm alright.

This Japanese movie looks rather awesome:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7W1ZvH0_VA[/youtube]

At first I was going to make a comment like Japan after the 70th Godzilla attack but that looks damn interesting. Shame it's low budget but the most original zombie idea I've seen for the longest time.

I was, till news piece came along. For several reasons:
1- This was what the first movie should've been, much closer to the source material;
2- Dwayne Johnson is a great asset right now for many movie studios, even if you put him in a movie like Journey 2, which was expected to fail;
3- Snake Eyes, Dwayne and Bruce Willis in the same movie;

Holy moly, I didn't realise Journey 2 did close to $400 mil! How does Johnson keep getting into films that should bomb yet some have appear to become financial successful?

Though fan of Johnson anyway, even if he might not be the best actor around.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: max_cady on May 24, 2012, 08:34:36 am
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2w2q6c1.jpg)

For someone who started as a professional wrestler, Dwayne has been the one exception to the rule as far as wrestlers-turned-actors go. Many just fizzle out after a few box-office bombs and suvrive through straight-to-DVD films (like Steve Austin), but he's been hanging in there and lately he's been very much a valuable asset.

Fast Five's box office success was credited due to his appearance and the face-off with Vin Diesel. Because of Journey 2's unexpected success, there was some excitment over GI Joe 2.
He's also starring in the next Fast & Furious, a new Michael Bay movie, and he's attached to a few other projects (Lobo, Ciudad,etc).
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on June 13, 2012, 10:18:31 am
July is nearing. The Dark Knight Rises and The Amazing Spider-Man. Excited for the former, unexcited for the latter.

<bitching>

As a big fan of the Raimi Spider-Man movies, I was really let down by Sony pushing for Venom to be shoehorned into the third movie only to result in a less than great Spider-Man 3. I actually DO enjoy Spider-Man 3, minus the venom stuff, but I think Sandman and Harry could have been the only villains. Anyway, point I'm getting at is that thanks to Sony's meddling, S-M3 got poor reviews and it gave Sony an excuse to kick Raimi out. It's like Richard Donner and Superman all over again.

Ideally, I really wanted to see a Raimi Spider-Man 4. Black Cat and the Vulture were rumored, though I was hoping for the Lizard due to Dylan Baker being a supporting cast member for the second and third films. However, if they used the Lizard for a fifth film it would have been genius. Give us three films to build up the character and Peter's friendship with him, and then give us an awesome transformation where we really have a history with Dr. Connors so we feel sorry for him and care that he lives. Remember, in S-M3 he had a small sample of the symbiote. So right there is Connor's access to regenerative and alien science, and it could open up a return of Venom for a sixth and final film via the sample growing and attaching itself to Flash Thompson or something. Give Venom a proper full film as villain.

Even better, in the Lizard film they could introduce Kraven the Hunter. So at the end of a six film series, they could have had two Goblins, Doc Ock, Sandman, Venom, Black Cat, Vulture, Lizard and Kraven.

---

So with all that potential in mind, they went and rebooted the fucking series. Now I'm all for reboots when they're needed. Nolan's Batman reboot was required, thanks to the original four films killing off all the major villains, not to mention Batman and Robin is one of the worst comic book movies ever. It needed a reboot desperately.

At the very least why not go the Superman Returns and Incredible Hulk route and do a soft reboot? Recast and bring on a new director, but have the storyline pick up from the last film. Still a reboot, but its implied that the events of the last movies happened to these characters. Like when Roger Moore came on as James Bond. New casting, but he still had the storyline with Blofeld and Bond's murdered wife going on from the Connery films. They could then still tell the Lizard story, but not have to toss in all this reboot crap.   

I think I'm also really unexcited for ASM due to the odd shifting about of characters. Like, they're making radical changes not because they're necessary, but because they just want it to look different from the original films. So now Conners works for Oscorp, Gwen is his assistant, Peter's dad was a scientist who worked with Connors and Harry and Norman Osborn are MIA? What the fuck? Everybody now seems way too connected. Next we'll learn that Aunt May is Mary Jane's half sister and Doc Ock is Captain Stacey's brother and Uncle Ben was Gwen's godfather. :P

Also, another origin story? C'mon! Spider-Man 1 may have had a poor design for the Goblin, but the origin story was fantastic! No interconnectedness with the villain, it just happened to Peter and he evolved into Spider-Man. The whole shitty suit and wrestling match were great. But now, the whole origin has to tie in with the villain and I'm sure we'll learn that Peter's dad created the spider that bit Peter. And in turn, Peter created the Lizard (he says so in a recent trailer) Oh geez...

So in the end, Amazing Spider-Man might be a decent comic book flick, but all that stuff I wrote will still be on my mind. Gonna be very hard to impress me. Hm.

</bitching>
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on June 13, 2012, 11:56:53 am
Raimi Spider-Man movies are OK. I mean, there was just so much that got junked up by Hollywood bullshit. But then again so will the new movie. What I hated is that the movie didn't really take new plot points from the newer comics. Especially since Ultimate Spider-man at the time was winning so many awards (Including top 9 comics of all time).

So this new one is exploring origin elements from Ultimate Spider-man, should be interesting.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on June 13, 2012, 12:27:39 pm
I grew up on little paperback reprints of the originals, which is why I loved the Raimi movies basing the universe on the original comics. Sandman was 1:1 in terms of design, i loved it.

But anyway, Amazing Spider-Man 2 will have the script writers from Transformers. Seems Sony hates the current script writer and is allowing the "geniuses" behind those "amazing" Michael Bay movies to give it a full rewrite. So I assume lots of explosions and jokes about Mexicans.  :-\
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Aki-at on June 13, 2012, 04:24:16 pm
As a big fan of the Raimi Spider-Man movies, I was really let down by Sony pushing for Venom to be shoehorned into the third movie only to result in a less than great Spider-Man 3. I actually DO enjoy Spider-Man 3, minus the venom stuff, but I think Sandman and Harry could have been the only villains. Anyway, point I'm getting at is that thanks to Sony's meddling, S-M3 got poor reviews and it gave Sony an excuse to kick Raimi out. It's like Richard Donner and Superman all over again.

As far as I am aware Raimi opted out of it himself due to scheduling? Sony certainly would not let a director who earned them over $800 million thrice to go like that.

Raimi Spider-Man movies are OK. I mean, there was just so much that got junked up by Hollywood bullshit. But then again so will the new movie. What I hated is that the movie didn't really take new plot points from the newer comics. Especially since Ultimate Spider-man at the time was winning so many awards (Including top 9 comics of all time).

So this new one is exploring origin elements from Ultimate Spider-man, should be interesting.

Never thought Raimi's Spiderman films were all that great either and Spider-Man 3 was all kind of horrible in terms of plot, Mary Jane was an irrational idiot, Harry suffering from amnesia and I just cannot get past Sandman's "innocence" LOL SORRY GUY PUSHED INTO MY GUN IS WHY I KILLED YOUR UNCLE! At least they had decent fight scenes. 

Not excited by current one due to the random changes made, nor the design of the Lizard. He's meant to look like a lizard, why is that so hard?
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on June 13, 2012, 05:30:36 pm
I really think Sony's meddling lead to a cluttered third film. When it came time for the fourth, from some reports that I've read, Sony wanted to continue to have too much control over the script which lead to re-writes and delays. The continued delays lead to Raimi "parting ways" with Sony. I really think Sony just cancelled their contract and rebooted: http://blog.al.com/entertainment-press-register/2010/01/spider-man_sequel_delayed_sony.html Seems Raimi wanted a larger budget and Sony was like "lol, no. we'll hire cheaper actors, the 500 Days of Summer director and give it a cheaper budget."

Seems Sony is doing this again with the Amazing Spider-Man sequel, as they are replacing the writer of the first and second with the Transformers writers! Oh my god... :P

---

Anyway, putting Spider-Man aside, anybody f***ing pumped for Dark Knight Rises. Really, this is my generations Return of the Jedi. I cannot wait.

I read some spoilers that I wish I didn't, but if they're true... it'll be awesome.

Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Aki-at on June 13, 2012, 05:57:01 pm
I really think Sony's meddling lead to a cluttered third film. When it came time for the fourth, from some reports that I've read, Sony wanted to continue to have too much control over the script which lead to re-writes and delays. The continued delays lead to Raimi "parting ways" with Sony. I really think Sony just cancelled their contract and rebooted: http://blog.al.com/entertainment-press-register/2010/01/spider-man_sequel_delayed_sony.html Seems Raimi wanted a larger budget and Sony was like "lol, no. we'll hire cheaper actors, the 500 Days of Summer director and give it a cheaper budget."

Seems Sony is doing this again with the Amazing Spider-Man sequel, as they are replacing the writer of the first and second with the Transformers writers! Oh my god... :P

Raimi wanted even more money than just $250 million? Heh no wonder Sony parted ways with him. Though didn't Toby and co leave because they did not want to get typecasted?

As for The Dark Knight Rises, only a month away. Felt only like yesterday Batman Begins came out in cinema, why back then I was still on SFGHQ and SEGA was still releasing bad Sonic games and George Bush was on his rampage of destroying the world. I have loved everything about the film since the first teaser trailer. Except for that stadium explosion scene, looked way too fake and strange for a Nolan film, since they usually do not rely on CGI so much.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on June 13, 2012, 06:51:39 pm
When Batman Begins came out, I was still at school in Chicago. Saw the movie in the heart of downtown, where a lot of the films exteriors took place, so leaving the theater at midnight was awesome because it was like stepping into Gotham.

Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on June 13, 2012, 07:28:13 pm
As far as I am aware Raimi opted out of it himself due to scheduling? Sony certainly would not let a director who earned them over $800 million thrice to go like that.

Never thought Raimi's Spiderman films were all that great either and Spider-Man 3 was all kind of horrible in terms of plot, Mary Jane was an irrational idiot, Harry suffering from amnesia and I just cannot get past Sandman's "innocence" LOL SORRY GUY PUSHED INTO MY GUN IS WHY I KILLED YOUR UNCLE! At least they had decent fight scenes. 

Not excited by current one due to the random changes made, nor the design of the Lizard. He's meant to look like a lizard, why is that so hard?
What changes? You mean the award winning plot of his parents? Like I said, it is taken from the Ultimate Spiderman comics and to be honest they are pretty fucking good. Also that isn't changes from the comic arc, only the Amazing Spiderman arc... which I thought was pretty dull. I'm glad the Ultimate line up actually made his parents important instead of... "Oh, they died a long time ago... end of mention"

Also in the comics he was never just a lizard. He was half/half.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/19/The-Lizard-Comic-Book-Character.jpg)

This is what a real lizard looks like...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Bartagame_fcm.jpg/250px-Bartagame_fcm.jpg)

Look at that. What a disadvantage. Spiderman can just jump over his head and its over since all the top of his body is exposed.

Now I just think everyone is hating Amazing Spiderman just to hate.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Chaosmaster8753 on June 13, 2012, 07:45:16 pm
While we're on the subject of Amazing Spider-Man, check out this interesting detail:

http://www.unleashthefanboy.com/movies/oscorp-tower-nearly-appeared-in-the-avengers/14217

Quote
Well this is certainly a surprise! Latino Review have revealed that there were discussions between Disney and Sony about putting literally the best easter egg possible in the superhero team-up of a lifetime, The Avengers. Read their report below:

Imagine my surprise when I heard a rumor that the Oscorp Tower from Amazing Spider-Man was “this close” to becoming part of the sky line for Avengers. (Hint: pretty surprised)

Here’s the story – last week, The Amazing Spider-Man’s production designer J Michael Riva (he passed away recently after suffering a stroke at the age of 63). Not only did he design the Oscorp Tower for ASM, but he has a staggering resume of awesomeness including The Goonies, The Color Purple, A Few Good Men, Congo, Evolution, and the upcoming Django Unchained.

Oh – And the Iron Man movies.

That design overlap, and the stunning look of the Oscorp Tower (seriously stunning) was enough for Marvel Studios and Sony to have the discussion about inserting Oscorp into The Avengers skyline. The Unified Marvel Manhattan Skyline almost existed.

By the time the Oscorp building was fully designed, The Avengers digital Manhattan was already basically rendered and there was some up-conversion that needed to go down, so – for timing – it was scrapped.

BUT – Sony and Disney were going to let this happen. THAT’s the key thing here. Timing just didn’t work out.

It’s definitely too late for Sony to insert an Avengers easter egg into The Amazing Spider-Man as some press screenings have already taken place, but that doesn’t mean something like this can’t have better preparation for the future! Sound off with your thoughts on if Sony and Disney will try and blend their universes together in the future below.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Aki-at on June 13, 2012, 08:05:51 pm
What changes? You mean the award winning plot of his parents? Like I said, it is taken from the Ultimate Spiderman comics and to be honest they are pretty fucking good. Also that isn't changes from the comic arc, only the Amazing Spiderman arc... which I thought was pretty dull. I'm glad the Ultimate line up actually made his parents important instead of... "Oh, they died a long time ago... end of mention"

Also in the comics he was never just a lizard. He was half/half.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/19/The-Lizard-Comic-Book-Character.jpg)

This is what a real lizard looks like...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Bartagame_fcm.jpg/250px-Bartagame_fcm.jpg)

Look at that. What a disadvantage. Spiderman can just jump over his head and its over since all the top of his body is exposed.

Now I just think everyone is hating Amazing Spiderman just to hate.

I know Parker's parents have had different origins from meaningless background deaths to they were double agents for the American government but I'm not sure if the director would be able to translate anything of worth onto the screens, he is a rookie isn't he? After what they did with Venom, I'm just slightly more cautious than I normally would be.

I am well aware of how the Lizard looks, you act like I do not know the first thing about Spider-Man! I am pointing out more to his facial structure itself. Compare the Lizard's head from the comics with what we got in the film itself. That was what I was talking about, it looks more human than lizard. Yes perhaps its a minor change but I do not see why they needed to change it.

Take it as my green eyes gripe if you will.

I should clarify that I really do want to look forward to it since Spidey happens to be one of my favourite superheroes. The Lizard happens to be my joint favourite Spider-Man villain (Along with Venom) but after what they did to Venom in the previous film and not liking the design they currently do have for the Lizard, I'm still a bit anxious. Could be a great film still, just not excited for it, yet, I'll probably get dragged into the hype for it like I did for Spider-Man 3 and go and watch it regardless.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on June 13, 2012, 08:18:39 pm
If they made Amazing Spider-Man a part of the Marvel cinematic universe, beyond subtle winks, then I'd be more accepting of the new Spider-Man for sure.

As is, mechanical web shooters, some characters being rearranged and a few more wise cracks are not enough reasons for a reboot in my opinion. But if, say, we see this version of Spider-Man in the second or third Avengers then I'd love it. Not Amazing Spider-Man itself, but the idea of Spider-Man sharing the screen with the rest of the Avengers.

Regarding Lizard, my beef is with how they're handling Conners. I prefer him to be a nice guy with good intentions, as he was when he was first in the comics. ASM is making him out to be an evil British dude with bad intentions from start to finish. Also, the design is pretty bad as Aki mentioned. Not a fan of the flat face and Joker-like mouth:

(http://splashpage.mtv.com//wp-content/uploads/splash/2012/04/lizard.jpg)

I much prefer the elongated snout:

(http://www.comicbookdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/lizard.gif)
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on June 13, 2012, 10:46:58 pm
You know whats a good reason? Toby McGuire being a shitty Spider-man. I said it, he was terrible and the only redeeming factor was Alfred Molina as Doctor Octopus in Spider-man 2. Which came out in 2004. The third movie is really shit. Why would anyone want a fourth installment?

Also the director for Amazing Spiderman directed 500 Days of Summer. A indie flick. Raimi was doubted as fuck when he was announced as director for Spider-man, since it was his first large budget flick. Not only that, he was only really known for a B movie, Evil Dead series and a few hollywood flicks that didn't do so well.

Now I think its a bit weird that people are doing this doubting all over again with this director. Also I think the Lizard looks like shit, I just didn't get the whole "Its suppose to look like a Lizard" when it didn't even look like one in the comics.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on June 14, 2012, 07:40:01 am
I don't know, I don't think Tobey Maguire is enough of a reason for a reboot. Ideally, they should let the series take a rest after Spider-Man 3. I liked Tobey in the first two films, I thought he worked. In the third he suffered due to a script that caused him to have too many  :'( scenes and too many  8) scenes. Which in the end resulted in only a sliver of the Peter from the first two movies. Shame.

I had no idea Raimi was "doubted as fuck" back in 2002. I had known of him at the time, and loved Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness. Even if they were B movies, he had shown that even without CG and a big budget, he could handle impressive and fun action scenes. Not to mention Ash, and Darkman which people seem to forget about, proved that Raimi could handle heroes and superheros who were offbeat, not unlike Spider-Man. I think these strengths, coupled with a summer movie budget, resulted in some of the best comic book movie moments I've seen:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z00fTwhmYX0[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E0oiKjLzTc[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWJQR6SNMF8[/youtube]

As for Marc Webb, I have doubts in him from an action standpoint because the guy just does not have a history of it. He has proven he can handle teen romances, so I'm sure ASM will be loaded with that. But the action scenes, from what I've seen, don't look like they'll be anything special. The guy has one indie flick under his belt and a few music videos/music docs. Nothing that makes me see potential like I did with Raimi. And nothing action-wise that makes me think he'll have some sort of signature style.

Agreed, Lizard does look like shit. I'm not one of the people saying "Its suppose to look like a Lizard", but I do think "Its suppose to look like THE Lizard". Some are claiming that its based on the Lizards first appearance, but I'm not seeing the resemblance aside from a flatter face.

(http://i.imgur.com/Kp1sg.png) (http://i.imgur.com/0IeHt.png)

I actually prefer some of the prototypes for the design, mainly the ones with the longer snout:

(http://gotchamovies.com/ul/photos/movie/the-amazing-spider-man-3d/b93072679b8f0cc1367cb68220205d22-sc.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Aki-at on June 14, 2012, 08:31:25 am
Barry basically said everything that I said, but I should clear up one thing.

When I said he should look like a lizard, I do not mean he should look exactly like a Komodo Dragon. What I meant is he should at least have the facial features of a lizard. That is the lizard, his face, the head.

(http://cache.io9.com/assets/images/8/2009/10/spiderman-the-lizard.jpg)

That is the Lizard to me. Not a proper reptile lizard, I did not mean that, but right now he looks like another version of Killer Croc, rather than the Lizard. And as I said, is it really that hard to do? Just the head.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: SOUP on June 14, 2012, 12:05:08 pm
It's probably just so he can look more human when emoting things. Might get the actor's performance across better.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on June 14, 2012, 02:18:30 pm
You guys are acting like I love the Lizard, I already said I thought it looked like shit. That is just one character that can't be done well in real life. All those you showed Barry look lame. The lizard is hard to do, that is why it wasn't done before.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on June 14, 2012, 03:09:59 pm
George, we know you love lizards. You like turtles, and lizards are like the same thing.  ;)

No, but really, maybe they should have never done the lizard. He was never my favorite S-M baddie. He's basically just like a lot of the other Spider-Man baddies we've seen. A good guy transformed becoming twisted and evil (Goblin, Doc Ock, Venom). Kraven would be sweet.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 15, 2012, 12:49:02 am
I've actually grown to like comic book movie reboots. Considering how many times characters get re-booted or re-imagined in comics, I think it's fitting it's like that in the movies too.

Having said that, it does annoy me when they continually reboot and fuck it up every time. Especially because it happens to my two favourite comic book characters. Why can't they get Punisher or Ghost Rider right? It shouldn't be that hard to make a good movie about a Vietnam vet killing mobsters or a flaming skeleton on a motorcycle.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: max_cady on June 20, 2012, 04:26:06 am
Well, Pixar's got something very interesting here...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpNLO2Hamtw[/youtube]

Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: MadeManG74 on June 22, 2012, 06:00:01 am
Apart from a few amusing cameos, I thought it looked a bit garbage to be honest.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on July 12, 2012, 06:21:28 pm
Warner Bros has announced that Man of Steel (2013) will be the last DC movie till 2015, cuz they are planning to pimp characters in other media (See Lego Batman 2 DC character cameos, new 52 reboots and DC Universe Online + the Arkham City prequel that will have ton of cameos) so they can pimp a Justice League movie in 2015.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Chaosmaster8753 on July 13, 2012, 11:25:07 pm
Warner Bros has announced that Man of Steel (2013) will be the last DC movie till 2015, cuz they are planning to pimp characters in other media (See Lego Batman 2 DC character cameos, new 52 reboots and DC Universe Online + the Arkham City prequel that will have ton of cameos) so they can pimp a Justice League movie in 2015.

And Injustice: Gods Among Us.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on July 14, 2012, 12:15:09 am
And before the new JLA movie comes out Marvel will probably have a sequel to Thor, Captain America, Iron Man 3, New Hulk movie, Amazing Spider-man 2, New Wolverine, Possibly new Deadpool and by 2015, the same year have Avengers 2.

Good luck with that one.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: MadeManG74 on July 14, 2012, 01:07:13 am
Don't forget Guardians of the Galaxy. I really hope that Dormammu gets into a Marvel movie soon.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Chaosmaster8753 on July 14, 2012, 02:36:08 am
And before the new JLA movie comes out Marvel will probably have a sequel to Thor, Captain America, Iron Man 3, New Hulk movie, Amazing Spider-man 2, New Wolverine, Possibly new Deadpool and by 2015, the same year have Avengers 2.

Good luck with that one.

Then again, have DC really made as many movies as Marvel has these past few years to begin with?
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on July 14, 2012, 03:48:39 am
Sorta. Movies like RED, Johah Hex and stuff count. But no, not as much as Marvel. The shitty part is that Marvel does big movies better while DC seems to be getting video games, TV shows down perfectly... especially their animated stuff.

Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Chaosmaster8753 on July 14, 2012, 10:55:57 pm
So, Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 2 is go:

http://marvel.com/news/story/19067/sdcc_2012_guardians_ant-man_films_on_the_way

http://www.slashfilm.com/antman-marvels-comedy-edgar-wright-screens-test-footage-comiccon-2012/

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“Ant-Man will kick your ass, one inch at a time.” That’s what director Edgar Wright said after lying through his teeth all week that he was in London and then appearing on stage at the Marvel Hall H panel Saturday night at San Diego Comic-Con 2012. Wright, who co-wrote Ant-Man with Joe Cornish, shot a short test reel recently showing how Ant-Man would look in his super small state. Even though there were blue screens and super unfinished effects, we’re happy to report that it works. And is awesome. And he has a fairly new look.

What really stood out, though, was not that the effects worked. The footage played with a lot of humor. Read more about the footage after the break.

The footage begins in a long, Matrix style hallway with two Matrix style agents. The camera moves down the hall, through a grate, and we see a tiny man standing behind the grate: Ant-Man. He jumps through and starts running at them. Of course, they don’t see him. He then pops up into real size, they start shooting, he gets small again, jumps, runs down the shaft of the gun, jumps up and punches the guy in the face, shaking the face in slow motion. With that guy done, Ant-Man gets big again, flips the other agent over….okay, honestly by this point I was kind of freaking out and it gets fuzzy. I do know that Ant-Man takes care of business, is about to jump through another grate when the elevator pings, and he gets on it.
 
The way Wright shot this, with the silence of a small man running in a big hall, the slow motion, the elevator, it had a totally different vibe from the other Marvel films. It was much more like something you’d recognize from Hot Fuzz. Whether or not that’ll carryover remains to be seen though. Wright said the script, which he’s been working on since 2006 (“the Terrance Malick approach” he said) is a mix of the silver age and contemporary Ant-Man. It’s action packed and “a nod to the original tales.”

The suit Ant-Man wears was described by Wright as “practical” and sort of looked like a G.I. Joe military exoskeleton. His face is entirely covered with some sort of apparatus on his mouth. He looks really cool. Very real world. A truly good fit inside the current Marvel Universe.

While Marvel President Kevin Feige did announce the titles of all the upcoming films, as well as Guardians of the Galaxy, there’s no timeline on Ant-Man just yet. Wright is about to make The World’s End but it’s pretty safe to assume he’ll get to it soon after.

Ant-Man, directed by Edgar Wright, is coming soon from Marvel Studios. How awesome is that?
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on July 15, 2012, 06:19:36 am
Ant-man? Well, if Marvel can do that, there is no excuse for not having a good Superman flick next year.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Aki-at on July 15, 2012, 11:01:25 am
Ant-man? Eh eh, if this is a success than Marvel must have sold their souls to the devil, it's the only reasonable explanation for the amount of success they've experienced since 2007.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: MadeManG74 on July 15, 2012, 03:22:33 pm
I dunno, the name is dumb, but there's nothing inherintly wrong with the character I think. He can shrink and become giant, I imagine that has some uses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAAskBKmc18
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: CosmicCastaway on July 15, 2012, 04:06:38 pm
I dunno, the name is dumb, but there's nothing inherintly wrong with the character I think. He can shrink and become giant, I imagine that has some uses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAAskBKmc18

In terms of abilities Hank Pym aka Ant-Man is really cool. However, in the comics he is a real big jerk! (He beat his wife for Pete's sake!)

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lizhz957Tw1qz4y6x.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Aki-at on July 15, 2012, 04:12:35 pm
I dunno, the name is dumb, but there's nothing inherintly wrong with the character I think. He can shrink and become giant, I imagine that has some uses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAAskBKmc18

Oh nothing wrong with the character, but hard to make a successful film about a guy who can become small and big I think, not sure audience would go for something like that, especially considering how much Marvel will probably pour into a film.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on July 16, 2012, 04:05:57 am
Its a Marvel Studios movie. It will be good. I have faith. If they can make a Captain America and Thor movie work, they can do this I hope.

Now if only Marvel Studios did the next X-Men, Spider-Man and Wolverine movie... :(
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on July 16, 2012, 04:25:54 am
Did you guys see the 10 min short film of The Punisher? IT has the Punisher actor from Warzone (right?) movie and it even has that one dude from Hellboy/ Sons of Anarchy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bWpK0wsnitc

THIS A FLICK, PLS.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Chaosmaster8753 on July 16, 2012, 05:19:04 am
In other news involving non-Marvel Studios made Marvel films, Fox's Fantastic Four reboot has gained a director while their Daredevil reboot loses its director:

http://collider.com/fantastic-four-josh-trank-daredevil-david-slade-exits/179558/?_r=true

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Fox has moved a step forward on one superhero franchise and a step back on another.  First up, Deadline confirms that Josh Trank (Chronicle) will direct the reboot of Fantastic Four.  The studio is trying to get all of its superhero franchises back up and running, but right now X-Men is the only one with any gas.  The Wolverine is due to start filming next month, and the sequel to X-Men: First Class will shoot in January once Jennifer Lawrence has wrapped on The Hunger Games: Catching Fire.  Progress on Fantastic Four could mean that the studio has at least one new superhero movie every year.

However, the studio may not have much time left for Daredevil.  Hit the jump for more.

According to Deadline, David Slade (The Twilight Saga: Eclipse) is no longer attached to direct the Daredevil reboot.  Even though Fox reportedly has a script they like, Slade has hit a scheduling conflict because he’s set to direct the pilot episode of NBC’s Hannibal.  Slade’s exit on the project puts Fox in a tricky position because they need to get a Daredevil movie into production by this fall or else the rights revert to Marvel/Disney.  However, Deadline says the studio “isn’t hell bent on making Daredevil at this point.”

I’d be surprised if the studio chose to let the project go, since Marvel will absolutely not let one of their most popular superheroes lie fallow, especially when there’s the opportunity to fold him into the Marvel Movie Universe.  If Daredevil goes back to Marvel, and they make a smash hit, then Fox looks foolish for letting the character go.  But it’s worth noting that this isn’t a Sony/Spider-Man situation.  Spider-Man sells itself so Sony made sure they got The Amazing Spider-Man underway so the wall-crawler didn’t head over to Marvel/Disney.  Daredevil doesn’t have Spidey’s widespread popularity, so Fox may just be throwing money away if they try to make a Daredevil reboot just so Marvel/Disney can’t.

To play in the speculation game, I’m betting that if Fox decides to go forward on their Daredevil reboot, we should expect to see a journeyman director or a rising star attached to the project (someone with a bonafide hit but not enough clout to rock the boat).  There’s no time for an auteur to come in and start tinkering with the script and slowing down the process.  Personally, I’d rather the character go over to Marvel/Disney and be done right rather than Fox make the movie simply so it can be done.

At this point, Fox basically has the rights to the biggest non-Avengers Marvel teams. Although I'm noticing how X-Men: First Class and Amazing Spider-Man are making slightly lower box office numbers than their predecessors if that means anything.

Sorta. Movies like RED, Johah Hex and stuff count. But no, not as much as Marvel. The shitty part is that Marvel does big movies better while DC seems to be getting video games, TV shows down perfectly... especially their animated stuff.

DC pretty much have used next to no one other than Batman and Superman in their films. And their last attempts at making films using characters other than them (Jonah Hex and Green Lantern if we're talking about the mainstream DCU and not something like Vertigo, Wildstorm, Watchmen, etc.) didn't go well.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on July 17, 2012, 02:37:31 am
If there is no Daredevil movie by the end of the year I hear, the license goes back to Marvel.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on July 23, 2012, 12:40:52 pm
So I saw The Dark Knight Rises on Sunday.

I loved it. Very satisfying end to the trilogy. Great movie, not as great as TDK, but still great.

I don't want to cramp my hand (been typing too much for other stuff) so I'll just say what I really liked:
[spoiler]
• Catwoman was a real surprise, one of my favorite characters

• Robin was in the movie! And when I thought back to JGL's role in the movie, he really was Robin just without the mask. Helping Batman out from the sidelines. Real cool way to work him in.

• Bane was cool. Not "OMFG Joker!!1" cool, but he was a real menace and I loved how he looked like he was posing for a portrait half the time. That fight. Damn. Cracking Batman's head was brutal, not to mention the back snap. Not a full break, but still brutal.

• That "Bane wasn't the one who climbed from the pit" reveal actually got me! I was surprised by that, and frankly relieved. Bane as Ra's son was a disappointing reveal, and I was so glad it was phony.

• The Bat and the Batpod were great vehicles. Shame the tumbler didn't get action, but we did see it via the bad guys.

• The ending fooled me. I did believe for a moment that Batman DID die. The grave, the statue, it all drove it home. I began to accept it, but then seeing Bruce alive was both a relief AND a "well duh!" moment. I mean, same sort of deal in The Prestige.
[/spoiler]

I'll share more when I have the energy.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: SOUP on July 23, 2012, 01:40:57 pm
I loved it too. Especially upon the scond viewing.

A few things that I really liked:
[spoiler]
- Bane was really scary. He had so many amazing lines too. Particularly in the first fight with Batman. Bits like: "Peace has cost you your strength. Victory has defeated you!", and "The shadows betray you because they belong to me". Very badass.
- The JGL character was a perfect fit in Nolan's Batman universe.
- On the scond viewing, the way they never actually lie about Bane's origin put me in mind of The Prestige. The answer's right in front of you the whole time. Very well written stuff.
- I also believed that Batman was dead at the end. It wouldn't really have surprised me if Nolan had him die to wrap up the trilogy, so I was legitimately emotional when it happend.
The scenes after that were pure win for me.
[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: MadeManG74 on July 23, 2012, 08:50:14 pm
If there is no Daredevil movie by the end of the year I hear, the license goes back to Marvel.
I hope it reverts back to Marvel and we get 'The Man Without Fear'

Then Punisher.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Chaosmaster8753 on July 24, 2012, 06:04:06 pm
I assume most of us have seen the Man of Steel teaser from The Dark Knight Rises?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jKWJZsjm5U[/youtube]

So basically the crew are from both Watchmen and The Dark Knight Rises.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: SOUP on July 24, 2012, 10:18:23 pm
I didn't see the Superman trailer in front of The Dark Knight Rises either time that I saw it, but I did check it out online before.
Looks ok. I'm not all that excited for it, but I hope to be pleasantly surprised (ala Amazing Spiderman).
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on July 25, 2012, 09:35:43 pm
Dark Knight Rises was more of a sequel to Batman Begins, which IMO was more solid than TDK (outside of the Joker role, since Joker was a better villain than stupid ass Scarecrow.)

[spoiler]I figured out that Bane wasn't Ra's al Ghul's son... because his spawn is Talia, who fucks Batman and has a son with him. Damien Wayne. Who is now the new Robin. When I heard her name, I was like "plot twist? RIGHT!"

Catwoman was alright. She takes 2nd place. Can't beat Michelle Pfeiffer.

I feel that they wrote it to show that Bruce Wayne lost everything, like his company etc and show how depressed he has been. IT was OK at first, then they kept going for too long and didn't establish a relationship with him and Catwoman. So the notion that he gave up his life (which was shit I guess) to live a life (as a criminal? Where did he get all that cash?) with Catwoman is weird. They literally had like 5 lines of conversation prior to the ending. [/spoiler]
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: mylifewithsega on July 26, 2012, 03:53:00 am
Finally saw Dark Knight Rises. While I loved the film and felt it was a great end to a fantastic trilogy of films, I had some issues....

[spoiler]
1. Why the fuck did they give Bane's origin to Talia?! It's his fucking origin, for fuck sake?! I mean, I guess it works for the movie, but it still bothers me to a certain extent. It wasn't necessary, in my opinion. Her seeking revenge was enough motivation; I didn't need that so-called "twist".

2. Cribbing from Good Will Hunting. Yes, Alfred's little speech about how he hoped Bruce would never return to Gotham when he went missing for seven years, how he just wanted to see Bruce in some fucking cafe with a woman and a couple of kids, is Bucky's speech to Will in Good Will Hunting. Different words, yes, but the sentiment is practically identical. Really? Good Will Hunting, guys? Seriously, it just took me outta' the movie for half a tick.

3. Scarecrow. I haven't liked this character since Batman Begins. As much as I love Dark Knight, I hate how they handled Scarecrow. He's a fucking drug dealer now? Oh, but in this movie he's content to hold mock trials and damn people to an icy death? BULLSHIT! They had a great villain and they completely flushed him down the goddamn toilet. It ticks me off because they could have done so much more with him. Wasted oppertunity.

4. Robin. Don't get me wrong, I love Levitt's character and I would love to see a series of films with him rockin' the cape. I'm totally down for that. However, why the fuck did you have to call him Robin? If he's Robin, why not just call him Dick Grayson? In retrospect, I really think that it was Nolan's way of hinting that Blake, like Robin, would follow in Batman's footsteps. He wouldn't necessarily BE Robin, but he'd be the next hero of Gotham to wear the cape and cowl. Then again, I'm pretty sure we all got that impression early on, which makes the reference completely fucking pointless. It's just a nod, or a wink, or a nudge that was totally unnecessary. 

5. Bane's voice. Bane is a fantastic villain here, but his voice kinda' bothers me. There's a couple of lines where I find it hard to understand him - only a couple - and he just doesn't sound....scary. To me, at least. [/spoiler]

Now, with that being said, I feel it was well acted, beautifully shot, and it has a kick-ass score. Really, Hans Zimmer really blew me away here. The photography and production design was absolutely stunning. In addition, I do love Christopher Nolan as a filmmaker. He has a very distinctive visual and storytelling style that I've enjoyed since The Following and I wanna' see more....

I really can't wait to see what he does next.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Aki-at on July 28, 2012, 09:04:45 pm
So I watched The Dark Knight Rises. It's got a lot of bad points, a few plotholes and some of the scene hoping is way too fast. Yet, yet, it was the greatest conclusion they could come up with and was a fantastic end to Batman the legend, but more importantly and I do not think he gets enough credit in the comics, Bruce Wayne the man.

I'll start off with the bits I really liked.

[Spoiler]First of, I know some might hate it, but personally I loved how much Bruce had to go through in this film, a broken body, a broken company but the one thing that he never lets go is his love for Gotham and it's people. He may not have any fancy powers, but his will to protect his city is what made Batman one of my favourite comic book character.

Bane was awesome, whilst the Joker was all out crazy and laughs, Bane was more badass, his one liners and poses were brilliant. I loved Catwoman too, smart and sexy, glad to she she finishes off as Bruce's girl in this continuity. Yes they had no kind of relationship here but hey Bruce somehow loved Rachel, so I suppose his standards are low or no women for 8 years got to him.

Seeing Gotham in complete and utter chaos was done excellently, felt like Arkham City all over again! I loved Crane coming back as a judge but in the back of my mind I would have loved it more if Joker was the judge and Crane the defense lawyer but both basically wanting to get the guy killed, it's a shame that Ledger passed away because I feel Joker deserved a cameo but respecting Ledger was for the best. But yes Crane, loved his little bit with Gordon "Fine... DEATH... BY EXILE!" Still I felt like they could have done so much more with a dysfunctional Gotham. All we got was a 2 minute scene of rioting.

The action scenes are all fantastic, Catwoman and Batman tag teaming a gang, Batman's first confrontation with Bane, the stock market crash, the plane scene and the last bit, it was all glorious. What a complete shame Bane died so quickly, really was hoping for more but alas.

The last bit, the ending, almost got me to cry manly tears. Batman reminding Gordon of their first meeting when his parents were murdered, seeing Batman ride off into the sunset as the nuke set off, seeing the Wayne family fortune carved up and given away to various charities, Batman's legacy restored but what really got to me was Alfred crying at the grave scene saying he failed Thomas and Martha Wayne.

Also the music is awesome, another film soundtrack I need to purchase.

Now for the bad bits and boy are there a lot...

How the hell did Blake know Bruce was Batman? "I saw you in my orphanage and knew that look was fake! LOL THAT'S HOW I FIGURED OUT YOU WERE BATMAN! LOL!" what type of shitty lazyass writing is this? It made next to no sense. No one else could work out he was Batman because they were not orphans? But he could tell from his look and added a billionaire playboy and a masked vigilante and came up with him being Batman? Please, that has to be the least realistic thing about the trilogy and that is saying something!

Talia climbed out as a child? Right... Then she somehow, as a 9 year old at most but looked more like a 6 year old, managed to track her father down? A man who would eventually go on to lead the most dangerous secret organization the world has ever seen? I'm sorry but I am just not seeing how she would be able to do that, especially as she would be growing in a cave and have limited knowledge of the world itself. Sure, it should be no sweat tracking him down what so ever!

One thing I found funny was when Talia said Bane's only crime in the League of Shadows was that he loved her. DUDE SHE WAS LIKE 6 AND YOU WERE AT LEAST mid-20s, WHAT IS THIS?! I surely hope she meant more of a fatherly love but I very much doubt it. So from now on I take it Bane is a pedo.

Also, Batman's back being fixed in the cave by someone punching it. Goddamn shut down stem cell research and get that guy over to every paralyzed person in the world, could work wonders!

John Blake. Blargh, the character is good and all but honestly felt like he took screentime away from Gordon and for what? A cheap Robin reveal at the end and shows how the Batman legacy continues? For what? Gotham is clean and no longer corruptible now, the reason Bruce Wayne became the Batman in the first place, who is he exactly going to take down? And why does it end with him? Should it not rather end with Bruce Wayne in the final scene, bah Robin ruins everything, even when he is not in the film.

That's actually a pet peeve of mine of comic books. Bruce Wayne is Batman, I do not really feel anyone else should become the new _______ of anything, including other superheroes. Oh well, I usually am alone in this compliant, just as I am in disliking how the Marvel/DC world shares one world, which is what I love most about Nolan's Batman, no other DC characters.

But yes, I feel Gordon did not get much screentime as he did in the Dark Knight. Everything Blake did, Gordon could have done too. Infact I felt the trilogy was as much about him as it was Wayne and Alfred, meh whatever.

As mentioned before, the romance was really terrible in this film, especially Talia. BRUCE I HATE YOU SO MUCH FOR KILLING MY FATHER BUT LET'S HAVE SEXY TIME! I wonder if she had no relationships for the past 8 years too.

Bane's voice. Seriously does Nolan not listen to the dialogue in his films. Batman was bad but Bane takes the cake. Which is such a shame, even though he sounded like Sean Connery he had a lot of awesome one liners.

Lastly, Bane breaks out thousands of criminals out of Blackgate and all of a sudden every single one of them is loyal to him? Is he paying them large amounts of money? What exactly is keeping them loyal to him?[/spoiler]

There are definitely many more positives and negatives I could list but I will leave it at there. It's not a better film than The Dark Knight, but it is the conclusion I feel the trilogy deserves. A fantastic end to Bruce Wayne's story.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on July 29, 2012, 07:08:25 am
[spoiler]Talia does fuck Bruce Wayne in the comics and she has a son who is the current Robin but you probably knew that.

Talia was trying to get closer to Bruce because he was the Batman, if setting up her nuclear plan mean't she would have to fuck him, so be it. Part of her plan was to get Bruce to trust her.

Also was surprised that Catwoman only knew who Batman was because Bane called him Bruce... then Gordon didn't suspect it either... so weird. While other characters all knew all along. [/spoiler]
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Aki-at on July 29, 2012, 07:23:43 am
[spoiler]Talia does fuck Bruce Wayne in the comics and she has a son who is the current Robin but you probably knew that.

Talia was trying to get closer to Bruce because he was the Batman, if setting up her nuclear plan mean't she would have to fuck him, so be it. Part of her plan was to get Bruce to trust her.

Also was surprised that Catwoman only knew who Batman was because Bane called him Bruce... then Gordon didn't suspect it either... so weird. While other characters all knew all along. [/spoiler]

[spoiler]Yeah I know but the comics built up a relationship between the two, if a very complicated one and one where Ra's eventually tries to kidnap their kid. Still here she was just thrown into it, meeting Bruce twice (Or three times?) before and than deciding to screw him.

The thing was, Bruce already gave her access to the reactor even before she decided to screw him, so what was the reason for having sex with him? He already trusted her a fair bit since he and Fox were the only two who knew about the reactor's location, was there any real need to bed him?

And yeah, I think that part was definitely handled poorly, but nothing takes the cake than Blake saying "I KNEW YOU WERE BATMAN BECAUSE I HAD THAT FACE TOO!" like seriously, he's just a rookie cop and works that out as opposed to Gordon who is an experienced copper?  It was so strange...[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: SOUP on July 29, 2012, 11:43:06 am
[spoiler]The thing was, Bruce already gave her access to the reactor even before she decided to screw him, so what was the reason for having sex with him? He already trusted her a fair bit since he and Fox were the only two who knew about the reactor's location, was there any real need to bed him?
[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Could be to make that betrayal sting just that much more, before she literlally stabbed him in the back.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: MadeManG74 on July 29, 2012, 06:06:25 pm
Bane's voice is the best thing about the trilogy.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: CosmicCastaway on July 29, 2012, 06:26:08 pm
Bane's voice is the best thing about the trilogy.

Overall I would agree, but there were a few spots in the film where I was like "What did he just say??"
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: max_cady on August 14, 2012, 10:02:42 am
Well, I guess 20th Century Fox has officially given up on it's Daredevil reboot (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=93615).

I'm playing Chopin's funeral march as I'm reading the article right now.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: SOUP on August 14, 2012, 03:04:32 pm
Well, I guess 20th Century Fox has officially given up on it's Daredevil reboot (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=93615).

I'm playing Chopin's funeral march as I'm reading the article right now.

Good stuff. Rights revert back to Marvel, and the world is as it should be.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: George on August 16, 2012, 01:21:57 pm
Have you guys read the new Daredevil? The dude just wants to be caught. There is a scene where someone really thinks he is Daredevil and she accuses him of it and all he response with is "You have no proof" with a shit eating smirk on his face.

Then in a company party he comes with devil horns and a sweater that says "I'm  Daredevil".
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: CosmicCastaway on August 16, 2012, 04:59:28 pm
With Expendables 2 being the last big film of the summer I thought it'd be neat to hear what our favorite summer movies were.

My top three were:

1. The Avengers
2. Brave
3. The Dark Knight Rises

The Avengers totally blew me away and it is most certainly my new favorite comic book movie. Brave was really fun and I loved the setting and soundtrack, it is the best animated film thus far for this year!
As for The Dark Knight Rises, I have to be honest and say I didn't like it as much as Batman Begins or The Dark Knight but it was still a really engaging film and I thought it ended the trilogy on an interesting note.

What summer films did you guys love?
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: crackdude on August 16, 2012, 05:11:30 pm
I like the Expendables 2. The Arnold bit with the Smart cracked me up :)
I thought it was a good throwback to the silly action movies of the 80/90s
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Radrappy on August 17, 2012, 12:40:39 pm
Bane's voice is the best thing about the trilogy.

Is this a sarcastic comment?  Because his voice was the worst thing about the movie.  Im not even sure what they were going for.  It was like sean connery meets winnie the pooh on steroids.  To add insult to injury he was impossible to understand during some key philosophical discussions. 

Dark knight Rises was the worst movie I've seen all year and an utter disappointment.  Ever scene was flat and devoid of tension, every line was incomprehensible dribble, and there were so many plot holes and ridiculous character decisions that it was impossible to get invested in.  How you all managed to enjoy it is beyond me; it was nonsense.   
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on August 17, 2012, 01:29:00 pm
Now now, some people like chunky peanut butter, some like smooth. I liked TDKR a lot, so did a lot of other people. You disliked it, and I'm sure (in fact I know) others didn't. To each his/her own.

Buuuuuut, since this IS the internet:

Each scene was flat? Sure a few scenes were flat, but there were so so many that I thought were either brilliantly acted or expanded greatly on characters running through the past two movies.

Devoid of tension? Well I went in [spoiler]not knowing if Batman would die, so I was on the edge of my seat. Same goes for the fate or Fox and Gordon. Either could have died for all I knew.[/spoiler]

Incomprehensible dribble (I think you meant drivel)? Aside from two lines from Bane, I understood every line of dialogue and drivel it was not. Drivel implies foolishness or childish. I didn't detect any of that in the dialogue. I think you're just being extreme in your opinion on that one.

The plot holes and ridiculous character decisions... please present them because all the ones I've heard in past arguments are either easily explained or are just nitpicking.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Radrappy on August 17, 2012, 02:17:25 pm
fair enough, let's get to it. 

What I meant by scenes being flat is that they weren't staged in interesting or iconic ways.  There was nothing memorable or striking imagery wise what so ever.  In the final conflict, Bane and Batman are trading blows in broad daylight, on a flat surface in the middle of a mosh pit.  Not to mention that Batman defeats Bane due to no cleverness or inventiveness of his own.  He more or less pummels the dude in the exact same fashion he did when they first squared off.  Where as in TDK, every batman vs joker moment is an absolute treat.  How amazing was the game of chicken they played with batman on the motorcycle and joker with the tommy gun?  There ent a single moment like that in all of Rises. 

Tension comes from you caring about characters.  We do have a soft spot for Wayne himself given that we've spent two movies with him but characters like the Joseph Gordon Levitt character do nothing to justify us caring at all.  Gordon was specifically confusing in the film.  His motivations and wants were muddled beyond belief.

And by incomprehensible drivel (yes drivel, not dribble sorry) I mean the thematic elements of the film.  I don't understand why Gotham is specifically being singled out as a city that needs to be demolished and I'm not sure what it is that Bane is trying to prove about its inhabitants.  Joker was very very clear on this point.  He was a representative of anarchy and was trying to prove that people would turn on each other if they were only given the chance(and hey, he was wrong).  Bane on the other hand was just confusing.  It makes sense in Begins for Raz al Ghul to be particularly invested in Gotham because the filmmakers did such a great job of making a character out of the city itself.  But in Rises, it just looks in about in the same shape as any city I've ever been to.  But what Bane was "trying to prove" ends up not even mattering because he was just a thug in the end.

And as for potholes and ridiculous decisions the major one that slew me was that Joseph Gordon Levitt guessed Batman's identity in the first 15 min of the film with one of the worst explanations I've ever heard(I recognized your fake smile because I wore one everyday at the orphanage).  Even worse than that?  It was treated like it was no big deal. 

 
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: CosmicCastaway on August 17, 2012, 03:57:54 pm
I wasn't a fan of Joseph Gordon Levitt's character either. During the film's ending the nod they made to another Batman character came off as a bit silly to me and it also irked the comic fan in me because that is not the real name of that character.

While I did enjoy the film I do agree with some of the points you made Radrappy. Those are some of reasons why I felt The Dark Knight Rises was my least favorite of the three films.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on September 19, 2012, 09:43:00 am
Holy shit! Watch this NOW!

[youtube]http://youtu.be/7fNZRlbkLO8[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Nameless 24 on October 01, 2012, 07:38:14 am
Arriety disappointed me greatly...the weakest of The Borrower's franchise for sure.

DKR was pretty much what I'd hoped for from Christopher Nolan, but I still think that Dark Knight is much better.

Not watched Promethious yet, but I heard it wasn't great.

Hunger Games was amazing! Being a fan of Shades of Grey, I love Dystopian Adventures where the Hero/ine(s) have some form of hope.

Ghost Rider was pretty good too, although it wasn't the best Marvel Film I've ever watched (that goes to Avengers), I deem it worth a watch.

Not many films have impressed me from 2012 releases, although I watched most of the Ghibli Films this year and was impressed by Howl's Moving Castle.

Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on October 01, 2012, 08:13:06 am
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ1O1vb9AUU[/youtube]

Saw Paul Thomas Anderson's The Master over the weekend. Fantastic film.

If you saw any of his other films, such as There Will Be Blood, you should know that he is able to get some amazing performances out of his actors. Hoffman and Phoenix are amazing every second they are on screen, and since they are on screen for nearly the entire film, it is impossible to take your eyes away from the screen.

The cinematography is great, the soundtrack is excellent.

The plot, I will not give away. I will say, however, that this is a movie that does not hold your hand. You will not leave the theater thinking "golly gosh, it was sure nice of the director to spell everything out for me!". No, you'll have to (brace yourself) think for yourself and interpret the movie how you see it. When I left the theater, I passed a group of old people and they were talking shit left, right and center. "I didn't get it! I want my money back!". Well fuck you, old people. The movie was awesome and as for what it was all about:

[spoiler]The movie is about two men, one a complete train wreck and one who is seemingly in control of his life and the lives of others. However, they both have something in common: they are just making it up as they go along. This is very clear with Phoenix's character Freddie, who just drifts from place to place. Hoffman's character, Lancaster Dodd (aka The Master), is making up his own religion. When the two meet, Freddie sees a man who is seemingly very smart and could help him sort his life out, even if Freddie doesn't want to admit that he is fucked up. Meanwhile, Lancaster sees Freddie as a guinea pig who could prove that his ideas aren't all bullshit and that he could very well change somebody's life for the better with his made up religion.[/spoiler]

I highly recommend this one. There are some scenes that are just amazing in terms of acting.

--

Coming this October:

[youtube]http://youtu.be/Wp2h1cLug-M[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on October 03, 2012, 11:33:39 am
So the details of the Dark Knight Rises blu-ray are out, and holy shit did they go overboard!
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=9602

Best Buy exclusive steelbook w/bonus documentary, Target book packaging, trilogy collection, standard release, sculpture with discs in the base... wow.

I, however, am going to wait for this Ultimate Collector's Edition that Warner is promising, insider info says it'll have all the films + features + new features that look at the trilogy as a whole. It'll also surely have cool goodies. My fingers are crossed for deleted scenes.

---

Skyfall theme preview:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnfiUiwCQLU[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: CosmicCastaway on October 04, 2012, 05:02:26 pm
I'm pumped for Skyfall, can't wait to see it.  Truthfully, I don't really like Adele but maybe she can make an awesome James Bond theme.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HKoqNJtMTQ[/youtube]

EDIT: I'm torn. Love the music, not feeling Adele's vocals. It's just one of those things where you recognize the person is a talented singer, but their voice isn't to your taste. Still quite excited for the movie though!
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on October 06, 2012, 09:26:41 am
I don't buy her albums, but I like her voice. I definitly think this is the best Bond song in the Craig era, and probably the best one since Goldeneye.
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: CosmicCastaway on October 06, 2012, 09:39:44 am
I don't buy her albums, but I like her voice. I definitly think this is the best Bond song in the Craig era, and probably the best one since Goldeneye.

My favorite is song "The World Is Not Enough."  ;) Love that one!
Title: Re: The Amazing 2012 Movie Discussion Rises: An Unexpected Journey
Post by: Barry the Nomad on October 06, 2012, 10:23:11 am
Ah yes! Ok, replace Goldeneye with TWINE in my above statement, because that was a great song.

Btw, little Skyfall spoiler: The Bond family motto, "The World Is Not Enough" appears somewhere in the movie... :D