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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Suzuki Yu on January 31, 2012, 08:25:55 pm
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downloading....
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some info :
The demo will allow players to sample a portion of campaign mode over two stages, one set in the Shibuya's Spain-zaka area in the lower city and one in the Shinjuku Station-like area of the upper city.
The demo will offer voice command support, where you give voice-based commands to your support characters. However, it will not support online play.
Demo Size: 1.2 GB for PSN / 1.0 GB for XBL
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Everyone is saying good things about the game. Holy shit, my heart is beating so fast, i cant sleep. Im so fucking happy!
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I am surprised not more people are talking about this! Downloaded it a while ago and even though I cannot make heads or tails out of the dialogue, I completely dig the game!
Love shooting the heads off the robots and watching them attack anyone, it's also a good way to cause a slight distraction heh. The procedural damage caused is great stuff and makes destroying baddies a lot more statisfying and creates a few interesting situations!
Framerate seemed to slow down at times but not too massively, I heard the 360 version is better on this regards actually! But one of the most impressive things was the AI, loved how aggressively it is and all the neat little details that goes with it, I especially loved it when the robots were damaged extensively and how they would just ran at you to do a damaging melee attack.
Overall though, great demo, cannot wait to try it in English though!
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When is the English demo due?
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I am surprised not more people are talking about this! Downloaded it a while ago and even though I cannot make heads or tails out of the dialogue, I completely dig the game!
Love shooting the heads off the robots and watching them attack anyone, it's also a good way to cause a slight distraction heh. The procedural damage caused is great stuff and makes destroying baddies a lot more statisfying and creates a few interesting situations!
Framerate seemed to slow down at times but not too massively, I heard the 360 version is better on this regards actually! But one of the most impressive things was the AI, loved how aggressively it is and all the neat little details that goes with it, I especially loved it when the robots were damaged extensively and how they would just ran at you to do a damaging melee attack.
Overall though, great demo, cannot wait to try it in English though!
yeah, demo was great overall except for the framerate issues.
but i am glad the 360 ver is better in performance since i really want to play the game using my 360 controller.
i also can't wait for the 360 Eng demo.
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I'd download it, but I forgot the email AND password for my japanese XBLA account, and only get this message when trying to create a new one: Windows Live ID is experiencing technical difficulties. Please try again later.
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Playing the PS3 demo. Can't wait for the english version to come so I know what the heck is going on. I can't really communicate to my squad since it's all in Japanese.
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The PAL demo will be out on 24 february, the same date as the game will be out.
Bad move :-/
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The PAL demo will be out on 24 february, the same date as the game will be out.
Bad move :-/
Can I ask were you heard this Alex? Neither XBLA or PSN update on a Friday so this would seem extremely unlikely. I do however fear SEGA is going to completely skip on a demo till the very latest and this has me worried, after playing it I know this game can be a big success for them.
Also PSN America even has it's own section for Binary Domain (And being advertised as soon as you enter) so I would find it odd they drop the ball completely.
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I read it on some german websites some days ago, for example here: http://playnation.de/news,id37385,binary-domain-demo-anmarsch.html
But maybe they are wrong.
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I got my account all set, but saw it's a gold exclusive. How long does that last on the JP store?
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I'm guessing 2 weeks at the most.
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I'm guessing 2 weeks at the most.
We are probably going to get it on the European/American stores by then, haha.
Anyway not surprising, but I've been playing the demo again and again, I've been playing it on easy and taking out robots piece by piece, then upping it to hard and tactically getting my group to charge, regroup and cover me and then charge again, real blast to play!
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Really nice demo and was happy to see how well done and hard the game and its AI is done, shame the frame rate in the PS3 version is all over the place (that can be fixed)
I just hope there's plenty of variety in the stages and enemies , because all I've seen from the vid's and this demo is all the same stages and bosses really , otherwise I can't wait for the final game
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I just tried out the demo on my PS3 to see if Binary Domain is something I want to get. I tried seeing if it was possible to play the game without using the cover-system but even on the easiest difficulty setting I kept getting shot to pieces. I don't know how to explain it but I just don't really enjoy cover-based shooters. Binary Domain has a lot of awesome stuff going for it but I think I won't be getting this title. :( It's really cool that you all are enjoying it though, I'm happy for you! :D
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I am surprised not more people are talking about this!
That's my concern as well, i think Bayonetta made a bigger splash in fan gossip when its download became available. I just hope this game won't get ignored like VANQUISH did.
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downloaded the demo this morning, will give it a play tonight.
I'm hoping it's a little forgiving to those who are not pros at cover-based shooters, but Cosmic's comment makes me think its not.
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That's my concern as well, i think Bayonetta made a bigger splash in fan gossip when its download became available. I just hope this game won't get ignored like VANQUISH did.
Yeap, I have similar fears, especially as I feel this is a great attempt at a Japanese developer seriously trying to enter the Western market, gameplay, robot design, music, almost everything about this game looks like it should be a massive game and a big series for SEGA.
downloaded the demo this morning, will give it a play tonight.
I'm hoping it's a little forgiving to those who are not pros at cover-based shooters, but Cosmic's comment makes me think its not.
Depends, if you play it on hard (Game calls it Saviour) then yeah, you might find it hard, but in between each of those three, in stage there are shop terminals you can access, these allow you to buy ammo, health and weapons, so they should balance out for you Barry.
Some of the robots are right buggers too, the red one in particular, they sidestep almost everywhere making sure its hard for you to hit them!
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Anyone else notice the file size of the demo is twice as large on 360 as it is on PS3?
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I wonder if being so bent on making this game a 'western' focused title has been a mistake. As said earlier, I think Bayonetta garnered a lot more attention, and I can't help but wonder if that's because it was so different in style to the majority of Western Developed games. The game was unashamedly weird and bizarre, whereas Binary Domain just seems to get lost in the shuffle.
I also have to say I personally think Bayonetta looked a lot better in terms of overall quality too (not to say that BD isn't great, but Bayonetta is one of my all-time favourite games so maybe it's not a fair comparison).
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Someone's planning to upload the whole playthrough of Binary Domain (Unfortunately been leaked via torrents) but I've just wanted to see if all the cutscenes are going to be completely horrible trash or geniuely good scriptwritting and I have to admit, the scene had some good lines and acting!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79iy71LT89w&t=3m55s
I wonder if being so bent on making this game a 'western' focused title has been a mistake. As said earlier, I think Bayonetta garnered a lot more attention, and I can't help but wonder if that's because it was so different in style to the majority of Western Developed games. The game was unashamedly weird and bizarre, whereas Binary Domain just seems to get lost in the shuffle.
I also have to say I personally think Bayonetta looked a lot better in terms of overall quality too (not to say that BD isn't great, but Bayonetta is one of my all-time favourite games so maybe it's not a fair comparison).
Bayonetta works for Bayonetta because its a crazy over the top action game, but that style with Binary Domain? It's meant to be a serious game with over 4 hours of plot, I think making it weird would have just taken away from the whole game.
Besides, there have not been many man vs machine video games this generation either, that ought to make it stand out.
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I just watched some parts on the channel and My god the game looks amazing!
You know, I don't really have a ps3(neither a 360) so I can't share my thoughts on the demo sadly. I sometimes visit my parents where i continue play yakuza 4 a little bit (at the last part now) and then don't play it for weeks, so I might be able to play it in a week if i'm bothered to visit them. No doubt when I do get a ps3 myself, this will be the game i'll pick up with.
Edit: Though I gotta say, i'm really sad to read there's framrate chopiness in the ps3 demo. Anyone experiencing the same? Hope it's only in the demo :(
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Bayonetta works for Bayonetta because its a crazy over the top action game, but that style with Binary Domain? It's meant to be a serious game with over 4 hours of plot, I think making it weird would have just taken away from the whole game.
Besides, there have not been many man vs machine video games this generation either, that ought to make it stand out.
I wasn't implying that they should make BD different, just that the whole concept of 'make a game western-like to succeed in the west' might be a little flawed.
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I wasn't implying that they should make BD different, just that the whole concept of 'make a game western-like to succeed in the west' might be a little flawed.
Not sure with Binary Domain about that, since they said its going for Japanese audience too (And promoted a lot in Japan) Personally I would have agreed with you if the original teaser trailer was consistent with what we saw, but with Binary Domain it seems to have a lot of that Yakuza appeal, especially in its cutscenes.
I actually believe the reason there is so little hype is after October, SEGA completely stopped marketing this game, except for that period in December, it does not help that Binary Domain has only 11 news articles on the SEGABlog, prior to October, SEGA was marketing this game very well. But they have dropped the ball massively.
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I just watched some parts on the channel and My god the game looks amazing!
You know, I don't really have a ps3(neither a 360) so I can't share my thoughts on the demo sadly. I sometimes visit my parents where i continue play yakuza 4 a little bit (at the last part now) and then don't play it for weeks, so I might be able to play it in a week if i'm bothered to visit them. No doubt when I do get a ps3 myself, this will be the game i'll pick up with.
Edit: Though I gotta say, i'm really sad to read there's framrate chopiness in the ps3 demo. Anyone experiencing the same? Hope it's only in the demo :(
Been reading up some Japanese fans impressions, cannot tell if they are Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio/Nagoshi fanboys but they seemed to indicate framerate issues have been fixed.
Also you better force people to buy Binary Domain, bad enough you're not supporting the tan man's Dead Souls!11!!1!!!!
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I played the demo last night and...
It's shit. I'm sorry, but it was awful.
Just kidding! I really enjoyed it! I set the difficulty to "Can I play, daddy?" so it would be easier and I still ran into a bit of trouble. Mainly because the demo just drops you into combat scenarios with little to no setup. Mission 1 was loads of fun! The microphone is a really cool feature, and I can see how the game could become Sakura Taisen in terms of keeping your team happy (though no sexy time). Loved taking down the big robot. Mission 2 had the already beloved French robot. He's the star of the game, IMO. However, I wasn't sure what the goal was. They were telling me to get on the train, I think, and I did but the train never left. Robots just kept coming. Finally, I went down some steps and completed the mission. One thing to note: the stages are really colorful! Especially the train station.
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I wonder if being so bent on making this game a 'western' focused title has been a mistake. As said earlier, I think Bayonetta garnered a lot more attention, and I can't help but wonder if that's because it was so different in style to the majority of Western Developed games. The game was unashamedly weird and bizarre, whereas Binary Domain just seems to get lost in the shuffle.
I also have to say I personally think Bayonetta looked a lot better in terms of overall quality too (not to say that BD isn't great, but Bayonetta is one of my all-time favourite games so maybe it's not a fair comparison).
BAYONETTA was more popular in japan sales wise then it was in the west
Not sure with Binary Domain about that, since they said its going for Japanese audience too (And promoted a lot in Japan) Personally I would have agreed with you if the original teaser trailer was consistent with what we saw, but with Binary Domain it seems to have a lot of that Yakuza appeal, especially in its cutscenes.
I actually believe the reason there is so little hype is after October, SEGA completely stopped marketing this game, except for that period in December, it does not help that Binary Domain has only 11 news articles on the SEGABlog, prior to October, SEGA was marketing this game very well. But they have dropped the ball massively.
You are correct. What's clever about this title is while it does take the western aesthetic it also adopts the element in which JRPGs are good at the emphasis of teamwork which traditionally has always been an element that appeals to the Japanese. So i think its doing what BAYONETTA did well and what Sega needed to get back to. Creating a game that appeals to BOTH markets and not just one or the other. This is the thing many people have lost sight of and why Japanese gaming at one point was so big at one point.
And its going to get talked about at last but its the marketing which let VANQUISH down. It s great to see Sega to take a game genre that they only had limited experience with and then release two titles in the space of three years that both introduce original elements in the gameplay that the other big studios that do third shooter genre will end up adopting.
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Been reading up some Japanese fans impressions, cannot tell if they are Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio/Nagoshi fanboys but they seemed to indicate framerate issues have been fixed.
Also you better force people to buy Binary Domain, bad enough you're not supporting the tan man's Dead Souls!11!!1!!!!
I will make them suffer the consequences lord AKI!
I hope you'll be happy to know that i'm getting that ps3 early next month :P I will defenitly have to buy dead souls eventually. I have a part time job but lately i've been a bit lazy.. Would be great if the game didn't cost so much at launch. Hopefully 40 euro's
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I played through the demo, but the game didn't really wow me. The whole thing almost came off to me as a poor man's Vanquish. Movement and melee attacks felt a bit clunky compared to Vanquish, but the shooting was pretty solid.
That said, I have faith in the Yakuza team's storytelling abilities, so I'm sure that aspect will be great. I enjoyed the chatting with teammates feature too.
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BAYONETTA was more popular in japan sales wise then it was in the west
Wouldn't surprise me, but I was trying to compare western reception of Bayonetta vs western reception of BD. Will be interesting to see how BD fares in terms of sales when it launches.
Also, I don't think I'll bother with the demo since the game is out next week anyway.
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Wouldn't surprise me, but I was trying to compare western reception of Bayonetta vs western reception of BD. Will be interesting to see how BD fares in terms of sales when it launches.
Also, I don't think I'll bother with the demo since the game is out next week anyway.
The problem is this, clear and simple, this is Bayonetta's announcement trailer;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzHhPp_dGNU
This is Binary Domain's announcement trailer;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wESpL6jbhMM
Right off the bat, you can see Bayonetta leaves an extremely good impression, whilst Binary Domain seems like its trying to hard to appeal to the Western audience, now if this was Binary Domain's announcement trailer;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp1SGtosGI0
The Western reception and hype would have been a whole lot higher.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp1SGtosGI0
The Western reception and hype would have been a whole lot higher.
That is the trailer that SEGA needs to pump out over the next 2 weeks on prime time TV, but you can bet you'll be lucky to see it promoted at all .
Its nothing to do with the game everything to do with SEGA's utterly pathetic PR. I bet most gamers don't even now the game is out next week :(
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That is the trailer that SEGA needs to pump out over the next 2 weeks on prime time TV, but you can bet you'll be lucky to see it promoted at all .
Its nothing to do with the game everything to do with SEGA's utterly pathetic PR. I bet most gamers don't even now the game is out next week :(
That was not my point, but I agree with your sentiments. SEGA Europe/America are too busy trying to promote the Aliens brand than focus on an IP that will belong to them forever, it really is frankly, short sighted and highly stupid of them. When the Alien license is taking from them, what are they going to rely on?
But my main point was the terrible teaser trailer killed any hype building straight off the bat, it really was bad and put off even the most die hard Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio fans. SEGA America/Europe were silly to allow that to go through, what were they thinking (Or perhaps they just were not thinking at all)
Badly managed their marketing has been after October, proper shame, I would like to see it become a series too.
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That is the trailer that SEGA needs to pump out over the next 2 weeks on prime time TV, but you can bet you'll be lucky to see it promoted at all .
Its nothing to do with the game everything to do with SEGA's utterly pathetic PR. I bet most gamers don't even now the game is out next week :(
Hit it in the bullseye as usual,mate. The same exact thing happened with VANQUISH. They came out with an excellent teaser promo trailer and then did absolutly nothing during the weeks when it was released apart from the internet. Getting the gamers on your side is one thing but doing nothing to attract the gamers who don't go on you tube to look at game trailers is another. If they used the first VANQUISH trailer and put that on tv on itv 4 or when some action movie was on, the retail sales for vanquish would have been a lot different.
As for BD, that title did have to build itself and i don't think Sega PR is in charge of this title, i think Nagoshi is doing this himself if YAKUZA PR has anything to go by he essentially directed how that was to be done as well.
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Very nice demo. I got used to the controls after getting slammed pretty hard, and after adjusting found it pretty fun. The visuals are solid, the voice commands are a nice touch, and the goofy French robot in my squad is quite refreshing. The enemies are a good challenge and seeing them break apart to gunfire is so enjoyable.
As for advertising, I see online ads quite often, especially on XBL. My local Gamestop has a poster at the register... convenient to see when I showed up to make a preorder.
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Oh wow, first comment for the vid Aki posted with the BD Trailer:
*sigh* I love how people blindly comment without even getting their facts first... This game wasn't MADE by SEGA its was PUBLISHED by them, 2 completely different things. It was produced by the same guy who produced Resonance of Fate and Vanquish, both pretty decent games.
Anyway, I agree first impressions of BD were terrible. I often forget just how terrible that first trailer was for the game. It's really hard for me to gauge the reception of the newer trailers with other gamers too though, since most of my friends are only into COD and FIFA anyway and wouldn't like twice at a game like this.
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OK, guys, the only thing that's stopping me from hitting the pre-order button over at DVD.co.uk is this: Based on my track record I've always been a much more 3rd Person action oriented kind of guy, do you think guys think that the game is worth getting brand new at retail price?
First, some actual context, like I stated, I'm a huge 3rd person shooter nut but at the same time, I'm completely oblivious to much of Nagoshi-san works. I never touched a Yakuza nor a Super Monkey Ball game in my life. I loved most of Vanquish, I have Stranglehold and othet similar titles in the shooter category.
So, do you guys think that I'll get my money's worth? Because from where I'm standing this game does seem to have way more meat than your average TPS title, so...
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Binary Domain is getting a lot of low ratings from Japanese users on Amazon, lots of 1 stars, but wait! Before you think the game is terrible, the main reason is;
- Nagoshi should stop making Western games and focus on Yakuza series
- Why are foreigners the good guys in this game? Why is Japan the villain?!
Though more people seem to be liking it thankfully!
Oh wow, first comment for the vid Aki posted with the BD Trailer:
And in minutes of you saying that, someone replied with;
What the fuck are you talking about? Binary Domain is made by Toshihiro Nagoshi, an employee of SEGa, the same guy that did Daytona Usa, Yakuza and Super Monkey Ball. Is developed by SEGA. Vanquish, in other hand, is made by the creator of Resident Evil, Shinji Mikami, and was published by SEGA. ROF was not made by none of them. And was published by SEGA. Really, i dont know if you are serious or trolling, must be a troll.
I see we've finally found out who MadeManG is on youtube *rollseyes*
Anyway, I agree first impressions of BD were terrible. I often forget just how terrible that first trailer was for the game. It's really hard for me to gauge the reception of the newer trailers with other gamers too though, since most of my friends are only into COD and FIFA anyway and wouldn't like twice at a game like this.
I think general reception has been pretty good, but the game is sadly not very well known. It could have a lot of good word of mouth, but I fear that used game sales might eat into it's potential userbase in the end, which is pretty sad but what can you do?
(That being said, Vanquish, a complete bomb by SEGA, is still being sold in plenty of game stores, Yakuza 4 too for around £12)
OK, guys, the only thing that's stopping me from hitting the pre-order button over at DVD.co.uk is this: Based on my track record I've always been a much more 3rd Person action oriented kind of guy, do you think guys think that the game is worth getting brand new at retail price?
First, some actual context, like I stated, I'm a huge 3rd person shooter nut but at the same time, I'm completely oblivious to much of Nagoshi-san works. I never touched a Yakuza nor a Super Monkey Ball game in my life. I loved most of Vanquish, I have Stranglehold and othet similar titles in the shooter category.
So, do you guys think that I'll get my money's worth? Because from where I'm standing this game does seem to have way more meat than your average TPS title, so...
You've never played either Yakuza or Monkey Ball? Say whaaaaaaat? You make Aki, Haruka and AiAi cry :(
If you liked Stranglehold you should love Binary Domain, the game is at least ten hours in length I've been told, the consequence system ought to make it worthwhile for multiple playthroughs I suppose and there seems to be a lot of variation in stages, bosses and enemies. From what I have played, this could very well be my favourite third person this generation. That is if the quality is consistent of course!
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Not playing a Yakuza, I could understand, but Monkey Ball is on just about any device/console! Not that playing Monkey Ball relates in anyway to Binary Domain, but give the game a go just to say you did. The second one for the iPhone is good, so are the Gamecube ones or Deluxe for the original xbox.
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I never touched a Yakuza
*Stares disapprovingly*
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And in minutes of you saying that, someone replied with;
I see we've finally found out who MadeManG is on youtube *rollseyes*
Actually, that was me lol. I was very angry. Thats not the first time this kinda of thing happens. There is a VC video with more than 100.000 pv on youtube and there was a hater there trying to convince everyone that the only reason why VC is good is because was not made by SEGA, only published. And people believed, they dont go see if the information is correct or not.
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Gotta love neogaf
(http://i.minus.com/iq38dVewSJrUk.png)
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Just beat the game! Gonna try to write an indepth review later, but here's my quick impressions from twitter
Finally beat Binary Domain, Wow... been long time since I played such well-paced shooter, my quick review (pros/cons):
Good: Amazing shooting mechanics, Boss Battles that shame every other shooter, Great Story, Aggresive foes, Great Progression.
Bad: A bit too many chase/on-rail sections, very easy on normal (Abundance of medikets, enemies are aggressive), AI can get bugged often
Game is about 9 hours long, with good replay value, I'm amazed that RGG studio can make such glorious TPS at first attempt
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Binary Domain is getting a lot of low ratings from Japanese users on Amazon, lots of 1 stars, but wait! Before you think the game is terrible, the main reason is;
- Nagoshi should stop making Western games and focus on Yakuza series
- Why are foreigners the good guys in this game? Why is Japan the villain?!
Though more people seem to be liking it thankfully!
Well they obviously haven't played the game if they are saying that. I mean Nagoshi hasn't made a western title for nearly a decade. I'd take those comments with a pinch of salt.
I think general reception has been pretty good, but the game is sadly not very well known. It could have a lot of good word of mouth, but I fear that used game sales might eat into it's potential userbase in the end, which is pretty sad but what can you do?
Well this is where Sega's PR has to do their job.... or get sacked.
(That being said, Vanquish, a complete bomb by SEGA, is still being sold in plenty of game stores, Yakuza 4 too for around £12)
Depends, its considered a success shipping wise, a sequel could happen,especially if the rumours about ROF are true and that didn't sell as many as VANQUISH did.
*sigh* I love how people blindly comment without even getting their facts first... This game wasn't MADE by SEGA its was PUBLISHED by them, 2 completely different things. It was produced by the same guy who produced Resonance of Fate and Vanquish, both pretty decent games.
I don't totally dig this comment. ROF, VANQUISH while developed by different companies were still developed using cash supplied by Sega so i wouldn't call these games sega published as they are in reality Sega second party software. THE CONDUIT is Sega published because Sega doesn't own and didn't put cash(not much cash) into the creation of the title. As for the producer, he only really served as the producer for the localisations.
If you liked Stranglehold you should love Binary Domain, the game is at least ten hours in length I've been told, the consequence system ought to make it worthwhile for multiple playthroughs I suppose and there seems to be a lot of variation in stages, bosses and enemies. From what I have played, this could very well be my favourite third person this generation. That is if the quality is consistent of course!
I'd concur, after this title, ALIENS CM has to really pull something out of the bag because from what i've seen it looks generic, the graphics are too much like rebellion's ALIENS VS PREDATOR, the gameplay doesn't offer anything new and the designs are rubbish. The one thing that will save it is the Wii U version. But after VANQUISH and BD, generic isn't good enough.
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*Stares disapprovingly*
I spilled beer all over my laptop when I saw this post.
@Aki-at
Is that so? Well then count me in for Binary Domain when it launches.
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Bad: A bit too many chase/on-rail sections, very easy on normal (Abundance of medikets, enemies are aggressive), AI can get bugged often
The very easy on normal bit actually makes me happy. I like games that offer a challenge, but when I'm playing games in a genre I'm not well versed in I'm happy when it can be set to easy and forgiving. Yeah, yeah. I'm a pussy. But I usually play video games in the evenings after work, so I hate getting stressed out over difficult games.