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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Spock on March 07, 2016, 09:32:50 pm
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What do you want to see from E3 this year?
I personally think that Ubisoft would be interesting because they already released many good titles in the past few months. SEGA needs to have something a lot bigger than what they had to offer last year.
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• SEGA press conference (though I know it won't happen)
• A reason to be a happy Wii U owner (who am I kidding)
• Nintendo NX reveal and disappointment (likely)
• Shenmue 3 in some form in some show (probably not until 2017)
• Yakuza 0 at the Sony show (hopefully)
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You're making me go on this big philosophical "why do I even play games anymore" quest right now...uhm...I guess I'm curious about the NX, of course. And like every year, I hope for some sort of awesome Sega throwback. Before last year, every year was "all I really care about is Shenmue 3."
Mario Golf for Wii U or NX? Resident Evil 7? A Mario Party that returns to the original gameplay style? Valkyria...Blue...Azure...whatever it's called to finally get announced for the west?
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No expectations. Expectations lead to disappointment. No point in having expectations on something you have no control over. I do have hopes though. I hope the next Sonic game is amazing, and I hope to see a big presence on Japanese games from SEGA of America and Atlus at E3. I hope Sony's whole conference won't be VR tech demos and Call of Duty/Destiny.
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Zelda U blowout. They havent shown anything apart from its artstyle and the grasland. So im curious how great other environments will look in that art style. I wanna see the updated link's face to hopefully look less feminine.
Last guardian hopefully showing more gameplay and a release date.
Not interested in anything else honestly. Im enjoying myself in the meantime. Just like happycat few expectations. Would usually look forward to nintendo the most, but after last year's burn I think id rather just enjoy the show when it comes instead of looking forward fo it. Im enjoying myself in the meantime.
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It's usually the indie stuff that creep up on me and surprise me, so I'm just looking forward to them.
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Sony last year e3 is going to be hard to surpass. What even could?
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Last E3 for sony was what's going to be out, but they could beat it this year by showing what's coming out this year.
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Basically just show exactly the same games but say "this time they are really coming out"
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Basically just show exactly the same games but say "this time they are really coming out"
Genuinly laughed out loud at this. I was thinking the same when I was writing my post. Basically what im expecting too, well beside the other games that'll be anounced 2/3 years away from release
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I really hope they don't do that. It's alright saying what's going to come out in the distant future, but they really need some of those games to be out soon now.
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Guaranteed way to face crushing disappointment:
Think that FFXV/FFXIII Versus and Kingdom Hearts III will be out anytime within the next 5 years.
i joke.. maybe. FFXV seems to be making good progress finally, but Kingdom Hearts III seems like it still has a way to go still. Square Enix releasing footage of it every so often doesn't mean much, they did the same thing with FFXIII Versus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecUroX9XVjo
a full 55 minutes of FFXV trailers from 2006 to 2016
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Sega should have a conference. We now have dozens of games to show. From Atlus to Sports Interactive, there is a LOT of good games coming. A 2016 Sega conference would blow Konami/Squeenix/EA away
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Sega should have a conference. We now have dozens of games to show. From Atlus to Sports Interactive, there is a LOT of good games coming. A 2016 Sega conference would blow Konami/Squeenix/EA away
Square Enix has been having killer E3 shows lately and I barely care about them. Anyone can do better than Konami and EA. Fuck, I could be farting in a bag in that stage for 30 minutes and I'd do a better conference than Konami.
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I'd like a SEGA/Atlus conference as well. Just seeing something like 7th Dragon III Code on a big theater screen seems like a huge "take that" to all things AAA at E3 where the 1st party conferences hide them away in sizzle reels.
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I don't think I want Sega to pull a E3 conference nowadays because I'd just set up impossibly high expectations that would never ever even be close of being remotely reached so I'd just end up enjoying myself at how laughably bad it would turn out to be.
You know, like every conference in E3.
But I'd just be expecting sequels of Sega games I love like Crazy Taxi 4, Space Channel 5: Part 3, Panzer Dragoon Orta 2: Electric Bogaloo, Altered Beast 3, Skies of Arcadia 2, Shinobi 2 (Reboot), Streets of Rage 4, a Sega Smash Bros clone and so forth. I'd just be setting myself up to disappointment.
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Sega Smash Bros clone
Why when you can have Fighters Megamix 2
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I would love for SEGA to do something more based on Power Stone, because I think Sony proved you gotta do something greater than a clone (See Playstation All-Stars)
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Fighters Segamix! The name is there for the taking!
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Sonic Fighters Segamix!
SEGA SATURN EXCLUSIVE
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Call it Sonic and Sega All Stars Fighting Mega Transformed Mix idc. Just make it.
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I would love for SEGA to do something more based on Power Stone, because I think Sony proved you gotta do something greater than a clone (See Playstation All-Stars)
Playstation All Stars would have been an awesome game if they just didn't do "Smash but worse in every way!" with it. Fucking B-Team in charge of it, spells retard in every way.
Just rip off Smash but erase the "party game" elements. It's not fucking hard.
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They will do fine. The biggest thing they need to do is to make a balanced roster of what makes SEGA special. Playstation All Stars fell flat because it lacked Sony's Japanese relevance and nobody wants reboot Dante.
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http://www.gamnesia.com/news/a-game-map-apparently-from-red-dead-redemption-2-has-leaked-online
Rockstar will most likely announce Red Dead: Redemption 2 during all their other E3 announcements this year.
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I'm mainly interested in the Nintendo conference frankly. Want to see the NX and it's launch window, and I hope it's improved from the Wii U's clumsy launch.
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I have a morbid curiosity to learn what Nintendo has planned for NX. To be honest, they lost me as a customer when it comes to new consoles. They dropped the ball on Wii U and now expect return customers for the NX?
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I'm interested in Nintendo, but I doubt they'll get me to buy it. Too many "meh" titles with wii and Wii u for me.
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Starting a little early, but here's Yooka-Laylee's E3 trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1gxLvbX3Ow
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Is the NX a home console or a handheld?
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Is the NX a home console or a handheld?
It's a thingajigger.
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Sony confirm PS4k (Neo) is real, but it won't be at E3: https://t.co/EUBcu1dw41
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It is actually a microchip that you put into your skin and everytime you open the door it plays the jingle from Zelda games when you open a box.
Insider info, please keep it a secret.
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Heh, was asked what I'm hoping to see this E3, but seeing how all the requested games like FF7 remake, Shenmue 3, The Last Guardian are all in the works, it's hard to say. Beyond Good & Evil 2 is the only other one I can think of now.
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EA's Conference:
Pointless. Fe was the only interesting thing they showed and everything was padded out ridiculously.
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My games of E3 2016 so far:
fe
Telltales' The Walking Dead Season 3
Telltales' Batman
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EA's Conference:
Pointless. Fe was the only interesting thing they showed and everything was padded out ridiculously.
I really don't get how you can not be impressed with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU-dVuUOqyM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU-dVuUOqyM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2vgHOXeps0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2vgHOXeps0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0JDRgQWjb0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0JDRgQWjb0)
But there you go , each to their own
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Titanfall looks okay, but I can't get into Mass Effect or Battlefield. Even so, they showed very little of ME and only a trailer of Battlefield (the gameplay wasn't in the conference remember). I'm surprised they didn't make a big deal about Mirror's Edge. Is only came out the a week ago and I don't think a lot people have even realised it's out.
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Microsoft knocked that out of the park. Loads of games, loads of information and it's clear what direction they're going in. With the "Scorpio" and PS4 Neo in the works, I think I can see why Nintendo chose not to announce the NX this E3. If the rumours are true, the NX will yet again put them behind as both Sony and MS are pushing even further.
Speaking of Sony, can they really match what MS did? I'm not so sure.
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Its gonna be interesting. Microsoft's conferencee was okay when it comes to games. Their vision for the future is what stood out most for me. Without realizing it was a very important thing they had to do, and they did it well. The game that surpringsly stood out most for me was a racing game. A genre I dont give much attention to anymore. Forza horizon 3 looks absolutely phenomenal.
But thats what a presentation is about. There's some things I just dont like about the future outlook of gaming. It is how much less control you have over your content, and how much more control they have. Its how Microsoft especially clutters their dashboard with marketing etc. I hope they distance themselves from that as a whole.
Well as usual im gonna miss the sony conference, but while im at work ill try to check out the news at least. Kinda curious what bombs they have in store
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Car games tend to demo really well, so it's no surprise. I don't particularly like the genre either, but they are nice to look at.
I want to watch the Sony one, but it's on 2 in the morning here in Britain. :/
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Yeha. But its also the first forza game I want to get. Its all so conflicting because I dont have an xbox One and I dont like using more than one ecosystem on PC(next to steam).
Gotta say I love the look of the slim Xbox One. It may be one of the best looking consoles..
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It does look nice.
Unless Beyond good and Evil 2 arrives, I think South Park is the highlight of Ubi's conference so far.
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So, that's Sony's and Microsoft's out the way. Got to say, I think they both pretty good for different reasons. Microsoft showed some good support while telling us of their direction going forward, while Sony focused on the PS4 and VR.
I'm not too sure on VR still mind. I don't like the idea of not being able to see around me while playing. Also, Sony tend to have a habit of dropping things quickly if it doesn't catch on.
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Just watched the sony conference. That was a really nice presentation I gotta say. A good show.
Horizon stood out the most for me personally. But I cant help but feel dissapointed with what they did to god of war and resident evil 7. Sentiments are that many games look like the last of us and are going for capturing emotions, and I think thats kind of what set the tone f or the conference as a whole. I think thats the part where im not really the audience. Too moody. That said, Sony knows how to do a presentation and how to show their games
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I'm glad they've changed Resident Evil personally. After 3, it stopped being scary and they just went insane with ideas afterwards. With MS's recent change, I'm probably going to just upgrade my PC and get a PS4 now :)
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I was not expecting a First Person Resident Evil game, especially being the 7th game in the main series. That was the biggest surprise of E3 so far. Telltale's Batman also looked pretty good. Horizon Zero Dawn looked good too.
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Yeah so Zelda looks great. It had to honestly after such a long time development. I think Nintendo really had to figure a lot of stuff out themselves while others have already become accustomed to making open world games. Both Horizon and Zelda man. My games of the show
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Zelda does look good despite the obvious visual downgrade from the first trailer.
I know it's not technically over, but all but one of the conferences are and I think this has been a good show. So many games in the works and there is a vast variety too.
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Yeah the downgrade is quite apparent. From the first reveal I mean. I think its resolution and draw distance thats got sacrificed the most. Im not getting any consoles any more for a while so im just gonna go with the WII U version, but i wouldnt be surprised if NX got the superior version. It sucks, but yeah im done with their shit in general.
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There's been an interview with the dev making Resident Evil 7. They've said their will be combat etc in the new one, it's just going to be different. Not sure if you've seen it, but in the demo you can use a axe as a weapon when you unlock the draw. This demo is just to set the tone and puzzles it'll have.
Not sure if you've seen, but people assume there's only two endings, but I'm certain there's more in the demo. Repeat walk thoughs reveals different things you can do and discover.
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I havent really been following the RE7 stuff, except for getting that its blatently copying PT's marketing, quite shamelessly? I think they're failing at it too, at least so far (if there isnt any secret ending in the game). I dont like that kind of attitude tbh. Hope the real game isnt actually what the demo is showing. Otherwise its totally deserved when it doesnt pay off for them.
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People have been very quick to judge it, but there clearly is secret endings. You can pick and see different things on multiple playthroughs. Nobody's yet to work it all out though.
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I know the new Xbox One is called Xbox One S, but did Sony release a new version of the PS4?
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Sony admitted it's PS4 Neo is real, but they're not ready to show it yet.
Speculation is that Sony heard what Microsoft's 'Project Scorpio' has and they held off from showing it. Sony have said though that PS4 Neo isn't the same as Microsoft's new setup of 'no one left behind' regardless of hardware.
It sounds to me as though PS4 Neo is just a stronger PS4.
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Breath of the Wild was my favourite game of E3 and seems to be shaping up really well. I love that they started the demo from what seems like the start of the game and were out in the open world in 4 minutes. Seems like there's a bunch of different things open to you from the start and less handholding. Basically they're going back to the series roots and focusing more on the exploration aspect which has been more neglected as time went on.
Sony fucked up by not focusing a little bit more on Gravity Rush 2, Yakuza 0 and especially Persona 5. We ended getting Last of Us ripoffs after Last of Us ripoffs and Kojima's artsy farty teaser without anything tangible about the game. It was a boring as fuck conferece.
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I disagree about it being boring, but I do kind of agree with some of your points. They wouldn't have to focus on all of them, but Yakuza, Gravity Rush and Persona are all exclusives for Sony's console and unlike a lot of Sony's games (a trend from them at E3), these games are actually coming out fairly soon.
Perhaps they're keeping them for TGS/Eurogamer?
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Well, as I mentioned a year or two ago, I had a feeling Microsoft was going to be shifting Xbox to mean a general platform rather than a specific console. So that was interesting to see, and I'm looking forward to trying out Horizon 3 on PC as well as the 'bone. Personally I have no pangs of betrayal that Xbox games will be playable on multiple devices. If the implementation of Xbox Live party features is just as robust as it is on the console (actually it's been disappointingly spotty on the One compared to the 360) I could see myself eventually just shifting over to Xbox on PC.
I must admit I'm surprised that, in light of this initiative, their support/proliferation of Xbox configurations is really ambitious, with both the S and Scorpio on the horizon. I think it might be confusing to the average consumer that both S and Scorpio start with 's.' And it's hard to say who will be motivated to get an S knowing Scorpio will be out one year later. I did find it reassuring that they mentioned VR as a factor in the rationale for Scorpio, although it was brief and nonspecific.
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Scorpio is just a project title, so it won't be called that on release. What's weird about that though, is Phil Spencer has done an interview pretty much saying unless you have a 4k TV, it's probably not worth buying a Xbox One S. How honest...not sure I'm used to that in this industry hehe.
I'm actuallyin the boat with you about the direction of their games working on everything. I'm happy with my PC, so now I don't have to buy an Xbox if any games I really like arrive on their console. I stil prefer their controller too which I can get for PC.
Got to say though, Sony have got me tempted to buy a PS4 now. Their games might not be out soon, but in addition to some of the stuff already released, it's looking pretty good right now.
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What's weird about that though, is Phil Spencer has done an interview pretty much saying unless you have a 4k TV, it's probably not worth buying a Xbox One S.
He didn't just say that and yeah he's pushing the 4k a lot, but MS pushed the 720p of the 360 and unless you had a HDTV would really couldn't fully appreciate the HD splendour of the 360. Even if you don't had a 4K TV, you're going to see a pretty big jump in gfx given the Scoipor is going to have what is simply a beat of an GPU for consoles .
It's really good to see MS get serious about Console grunt again and far from turning their back on consoles. Both SONY and MS had great shows with some brilliant games, the gfx in God Of War and Gears IV just looked insanely good. Nintendo on the other hand.. one wonders why they even bother anymore
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Glad you mentioned that. Apparently Reggie has said the NX "isn't about specs" and it will "recapture the family audience" like the Wii.
Yeah...
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Glad you mentioned that. Apparently Reggie has said the NX "isn't about specs" and it will "recapture the family audience" like the Wii.
Yeah...
That's code for another gimmick console .
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Santa Monica completely fucking destroyed God of War to shoehorn it into a shitty fucking Last of Us knockoff of all things and you somehow think its graphics are in anyway a compensation for that while throwing a generic MUH GRAPHICS argument to downplay Nintendo.
It's funny because Breath of the Wild looks insanely better than God of war.
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Not sure I agree there. Zelda to me looked like a elder scrolls clone now with a pretty poor frame rate.
God of War did look very different though. I've never had any interest in it before as it was just mindless violence, but it appears to actually have a direction for the first time now.
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Santa Monica completely fucking destroyed God of War to shoehorn it into a shitty fucking Last of Us knockoff of all things and you somehow think its graphics are in anyway a compensation for that while throwing a generic MUH GRAPHICS argument to downplay Nintendo.
Looking over the swearing you'll have a point if I said GOW IV looked better than God of War , I didn't . I said they 'both'looked brilliant, not one better than the other . Zelda was it's self nothing new and nothing we haven't seen before (wow a open world game , like that's never been done) and it sure looks brilliant for a Wi U game, but there's been far better looking games on the PS4 and XBox One, the remake of Skyrime looks much better as well and you know having cartoon graphics makes its job so much easier too.
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I was really impressed with what Sony showed. I just wish they announced the PS4 slim or wahtever. I just want a 4K Bluray player.
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I was really impressed with what Sony showed. I just wish they announced the PS4 slim or wahtever. I just want a 4K Bluray player.
I'm sure the Neo will be 4K mate, and you right SONY had a fab showing . so many amazing looking and great games
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Looking over the swearing you'll have a point if I said GOW IV looked better than God of War , I didn't . I said they 'both'looked brilliant, not one better than the other.
Sorry, too late to come up with mental gymnastics. This God of War looks like a complete piece of shit.
I don't know what looked more entertaining: The walking and talking. The afterthought combat. The walking and talking. The scripted bullshit. The walking and talking. The cutscenes. Or maybe the walking and talking.
Oh, I know. I can't wait to shoot that deer myself, man. That's some cathartic gameplay right there. On the edge of my fucking seat here.
Not sure I agree there. Zelda to me looked like a elder scrolls clone now with a pretty poor frame rate.
Congratulations. You are probably the only person on the internet that made the most lazy, unimaginative comparison of Elder Scrolls with the new Zelda because...they are open world? Or something? I guess?
Or maybe you're just talking about Todd Howard's bullshit comment of "See that mountain? You can climb it!" and how that's actually doable in Breath of the Wild since climbing is quite literally a core gameplay mechanic of the game.
God of War did look very different though. I've never had any interest in it before as it was just mindless violence, but it appears to actually have a direction for the first time now.
So what's the best game of revitalizing an arcade-y, technical action game in today's gaming environment?
- Stick the camera so far up Kratos' ass, we can practically smell his colon
- Focus more on stupid story build up bullshit instead of getting into the meat of the game which is the combat
- When the combat finally comes, you either fight an overwhelming avalanche of 2 skeletons that doesn't even bother to focus on the combat since 2 enemies is already justification enough to be filled with context sensitive crap or 1 Troll riddled with bullshit invincible companion co-op
- And then pull the strings of our hearts by showing the Little Hunter that Could kill a poor defenseless deer...because the one game where we want to tell the story that life is cruel and fleeting is the game where we'll crack open the skulls of every living thing around us
Dad of War: Totally not the Last of Us!
This "direction" you're talking about is nothing more than pretentious bullshit that takes the "game" out of the gameplay to put emphasis on some retarded "emotional" ride that's going to be tots heart wrenching because that's going to be easy on the controller. Just read the drivel that the Sony suit is spewing in the post E3 interviews. AMAZING NARRATIVE, GRIPPING EMOTIONS, NEVER BEFORE TOLD STORIES. It's pure PR drivel.
Sony just killed the last western action series that focused on tried and true combat. And to say it lacked direction before is fucking insulting.
How could anyone enjoy Sony's Conference this year is beyond me.
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Someone's having a fun day.
As for Zelda, yeah, it's lazy. It just didn't grab me. The image quality has took a huge hit compared to what they originally showed, the frame rate is clunky and a lot of what they did seemed utterly pointless. It's a problem all open world games have I find. I much rather prefer a smaller world in games with more in it and a real real sense of direction and drive to the goal.
As for GoW. I can see why fans of the older games would be upset, but to me this looked more interesting. It's no longer a silly button masher with little thought behind it.
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Someone's having a fun day.
When you deal with so monumentally terrible opinions about video games, a guy kinda has to see the cup half-full.
Take your arguments about Zelda. Here you have a Zelda game that finally focuses on providing an interesting experience by handling a bunch of core gameplay mechanics that focuses on combat (Weapon durability, bullet time mechanics based on timing, item based dodging), exploration (The climbing mechanic which adds a fucking great sense of verticality to the game / Environmental properties that pushes for character customization whether it's with items or ) and puzzle/item ratio that stack up organically throughout the game instead of the "1 item per dungeon" bullshit that Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword had. The first Zelda that feels like it's not afraid to be a fucking game, focusing on gameplay mechanics that add to the experience without holding hands for anyone which is why everyone is rightfully going apeshit for it. It looks fucking great.
And do you have to say? "It's like Elder Scrolls, I guess? Plus it's so lazy (Cause reasons) and it seems pointless! (Cause reasons)"
Then you go and say that this new God of War looks "great" and finally has "direction" when they fucking castrated the gameplay so much that they turned an dial-a-combo action series into a glorified walking simulator where your invincible companions gets "50xp" when he does something on auto-pilot.
I can barely process that logic. It's just so fucking paradoxical, it's almost medically fascinating.
Oh, by the way. Just because you only play games in normal difficulty and do nothing but button mash like a retard doesn't mean that those games are meant to be played like you're a button mashing retard if you want to beat higher difficulties.
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Okay, just because we don't agree doesn't make my opinion terrible. It just means your attitude is terrible and in every response so far you've been rude and condescending.
I've already stated why I didn't like what I saw of Zelda and although I found GoW more interesting, I probably won't be buying it anyway. Either learn to be respectful of other opinions or leave.
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Phantasos, let's dial it down. Be respectful in forum debates and drop the profanity. We allow swearing here, but not when it is targeting others or laced throughout heated arguments.
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Zelda sucks anyway. Fuck.
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I'm sure the Neo will be 4K mate, and you right SONY had a fab showing . so many amazing looking and great games
I just want a 4K bluray player. I know that the Xbox One Slim will have one.
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Okay, just because we don't agree doesn't make my opinion terrible. It just means your attitude is terrible and in every response so far you've been rude and condescending.
Oh, you're allowed to have a different opinion, champ. I'm not contesting that. You know what they say about assholes.
Then again, when you fail to justify your opinion in every exchange of the conversation by condescendingly and lazily downplay the games' you're not so hot for, that's when I start wondering why you even bother to have this conversation in the first place if you're just gonna prattle half opinions with nothing to back it up. Even now. You're just calling me a meanie and so far, you haven't said why this God of war isn't a a fucking disaster in every sense of the word. You know, except saying the old one "had no direction" and is "button mashy with little thought behind it". Throwing buzzwords and bailing cause your feelings are hurt ain't the same thing as expressing a well informed opinion, bucko. I could give a fuck if I'm swearing, if I'm being rude and condescending, I'm just keeping up with you.
But then again, this is apparently strictly about Zelda. Which was even worse cause you made the most senseless, lazy and dumbass comparison you could ever make. Hope the irony is not lost on you when this place is basically a time capsule of "SEGA RULES:NINTENDO DROOLS" fanclub driven from manchild console war mentality. The power of marketing is real. Who gives a fuck about games when you can be a brand whore.
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Those are reasons, not lazy thoughts. GoW has never interested me due to the presentation, that's now changed. I've already said many times on this forum I'm not a fan of big open world's as they tend to have little to actually do in them and lack a focus overall (Skyrim, GTA, Fallout etc). So, that explains why I'm not so interested in Zelda this time.
Also, there's definitely no "fanboy" attitude here. I've already said on this forum, I've played and enjoyed numerous Nintendo titles in the past:
90% of Rare's Games
Zelda:OOT, MM, WW, SS.
Most Pokèmon games on handheld and console
Starfox 64 and adventure
The only problems I've had with Nintendo really started mid GC life cycle where they lost Rare and headed off in a new direction. I respect them for it, but it's not something I can really say I've liked.
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Is Nintendo even trying anymore? For the past two years they only released a game about squids or some shit
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Splatoon was pretty good, but it just wasn't fully fleshed out I thought.