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Title: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: max_cady on May 09, 2013, 02:58:41 pm
So, in order to keep the good ol' What are your current thoughts? a bit less chatty about soccer, I've got the following list of topics that we can cover...

-Alex Furgeson calling it quits for ManU;
-Totenham hates Arsenal's guts;
-Mourinho possibly going back to Chelsea;
-Benfica screwing up against Estoril, making this match on Saturday particularly stressing for the boys in red;
-Beira-Mar FC was almost out of the danger zone if it wasn't for Rio Ave f***ing up with Olhanense FC;
-Benfica battling Chelsea soon;
-Arsené Wenger is still the most beloved frog in all of England;
-Sporting CP going into Administration, trying as hard as possible to stay afloat and we don't have Wolfenswinkle anymore!
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Let the madness begin!
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: crackdude on May 11, 2013, 06:52:55 pm
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BqNMkdsyLE[/youtube]

Last minute winner by the youngest player in the team.
The win puts Porto in 1st place with one match left to play.

I fucking lost my shit. Even Benfica's coach kneeled before the greatness of this moment of pure undiluted football.

Kelvin, the boy that dared to dream.

Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: Nameless 24 on May 12, 2013, 02:31:49 pm
City fucked up in the final when Wigan got the final (normal) minute goal of the game.

I am not too fussed, I doubt Wigan will get another chance so happy for them.

Mancini quit (guessing he was ousted from failing....damn....), so I worry for City's stability now.

Chelski vs Benfica will be interesting. For patriotic purposes, I want Chelski to win, but with a few Portugese members in this forum, I wouldn't mind Benfica winning it.

It seems like Wigan, those welsh wizards called Swansea and most likely Tottenham or Everton will be in the Europe league (Wouldn't mind Wigan getting far into that competition).

I doubt United will win anything next year personally...unless Fergie pulls the strings behind the scenes on Moyes.

Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: crackdude on May 12, 2013, 03:38:27 pm
Chelski vs Benfica will be interesting. For patriotic purposes, I want Chelski to win, but with a few Portugese members in this forum, I wouldn't mind Benfica winning it.
I'm a full fledged Chelsea fan this week.
After MONTHS of advanced celebration because of the possibility of a treble, it would be freaking sweet to see them lose it all in the matter of a week.

There is way too much rivalry going on for me to want them to win anything at all. Portuguese club or not.
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: Nameless 24 on May 13, 2013, 08:52:06 am
I'm a full fledged Chelsea fan this week.
After MONTHS of advanced celebration because of the possibility of a treble, it would be freaking sweet to see them lose it all in the matter of a week.

There is way too much rivalry going on for me to want them to win anything at all. Portuguese club or not.

Fair enough dude.

I am not the biggest Chelsea fan, but damn I love the way their kit is!
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: crackdude on May 13, 2013, 11:32:03 am
Fair enough dude.

I am not the biggest Chelsea fan, but damn I love the way their kit is!
Later I'll post my take on the whole portuguese rivalry thing. Aside from Barça x Real, I think Porto x Benfica is the biggest in Europe. It gets to the point that you see old ladies cursing at eachother defending their colors, even though they don't watch football at all. It goes so much beyond the game that it's incredible.
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: max_cady on May 13, 2013, 06:27:13 pm
As a longtime Sporting fan, 2012/2013 was a year that I just cannot put into words just how awfull it's been.

5 couches jumped in, producing terrible results... My team feels like a hollow shell, a far cry from it's glory days.

The Sporting CP that I knew from 1999-2002 (the last true great era) is dead and buried and what we have left is a knock-off.

Can I blame Liedson and other star players(like Moutinho)for leaving? Not really, so many years of servitude with nothing to show for on their resume.

I can be optimistic about a lot of things, but I can't find anything worth a dime in Sporting CP.

We miss you, Five Fiddles...
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: Nameless 24 on May 14, 2013, 06:10:52 am
Wow @ Crackdude. Never expected it to be that serious!

Where's CrazyTails as well....isn't he from Nederlands? I wonder if he supports Ajax or PSG?
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: Aki-at on May 15, 2013, 06:27:10 am
I thought you two were alright but I see I was mistaken.

I mean, I have to question anyone's moral compass who wants John Terry and Ashley Cole to experience any sort of enjoyment, what's wrong with you Crack and Nameless?!

Personally, I hope Benfica rips them a new one.

Also at Mancini getting fired after I said their billionaire owners were going good for City, the simple fact is if they had bought Robin van Persie from us and forked over the money, they would have easily retained their title.
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: crackdude on May 15, 2013, 06:29:18 pm
John Terry and Ashley Cole's enjoyment was a needed sacrifice.

Benfica AGAIN loses a game at the 90+2" mark. 7th consecutive lost european final.
It was delightful to see the tears streaming from those bastards' eyes. Me myself also cried (of laughter) for long minutes.

Rivalries aside, Benfica played well on the first half but couldn't land a goal. Though they went into the dressing room confident, they came back for the 2nd half with the arrogance Benfica is well-known for. The result was an over-confident Benfica trying to score against a much more experienced Chelsea.
Torres' goal was the product of Benfica having too many man upfront and a salt-cracker defense in the back. Benfica kept pressing and got the penalty. I believe they wouldn't have scored otherwise.

I wasn't expecting the 90+2 goal. But it was....magical. I loved it.

gg Benfica, but Guttman strikes again!
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: Aki-at on May 16, 2013, 03:27:24 am
John Terry and Ashley Cole's enjoyment was a needed sacrifice.

But one is a well known racist and the other a serial adulterer... Well okay both are the latter but still!

In a way I am happy Rafa won something with Chelsea, but it shows the complete plasticness of their fans coming to the Europa final and chanting/carrying banners saying they want Mourinho and consistently downgrading Benetiz.

But yeah, John Terry is still a cunt and needs to be cuntslapped by someone.
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: Aki-at on May 16, 2013, 06:33:25 am
So it's been announced that Arsenal have invited Porto, Galatasaray and Napoli for the Emirates Cup.

It's on Crackdude, it's on.
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: crackdude on May 16, 2013, 11:53:22 am
So it's been announced that Arsenal have invited Porto, Galatasaray and Napoli for the Emirates Cup.

It's on Crackdude, it's on.
Yeah, except from what I read both Arsenal and Porto face the other two teams but not eachother. Proper what the fuck. I was excited for this.
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: Nameless 24 on May 16, 2013, 04:52:07 pm
I thought you two were alright but I see I was mistaken.

I mean, I have to question anyone's moral compass who wants John Terry and Ashley Cole to experience any sort of enjoyment, what's wrong with you Crack and Nameless?!

Personally, I hope Benfica rips them a new one.

Also at Mancini getting fired after I said their billionaire owners were going good for City, the simple fact is if they had bought Robin van Persie from us and forked over the money, they would have easily retained their title.

lol. I hate JT with a passion! Ashley Cole's just an idiot...he does good for England so he can be forgiven (but given what he did to Arsenal fans, I understand why you hate him).

It's due to Mancini's attitude with the players it seems. City could have got RVP easily but I read somewhere that RVP knew of Mancini's reputation with players so decided to go to United instead....so I can see why Mancini was sacked. (long term, it was the right choice, despite winning us a trophy. Short term, it's a disaster since it means no stability again)

It seems like Arsenal could be the contenders for the title Next Season...heard that Chelski won't pay up for Mourinho and Moyes won't win much in his first year in charge. City are in a shambles so it could be Tottenham/Arsenal now.
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: crackdude on May 19, 2013, 04:36:51 pm
Porto is portuguese champion. That makes it three in a row, seven in the last 8 years.

Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: Nameless 24 on May 22, 2013, 08:59:10 am
Seems all is not well at City.

Tevez, Aguero, Dzeko, Lescott as well as a few others want to leave....

I wonder how much of an affect Mancini has really had on the squad?
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: crackdude on May 26, 2013, 03:09:59 pm
And Benfica lost. AGAIN.

In 2 weeks the idiots managed to lose the championship, the Europa, and now the cup! This has been one of the most delightful seasons ever!

The cherry on top of the cake would be for Fabril to win next week and get promoted to 2nd divison B.
Fabril is the 3rd division team from where I was born. Known in it's glory days as CUF, it managed 3rd place on the 1st division some 30 or 40 years ago. After the revolution in the mid 70's, the industrial region it was based on (and provided the moonies) bagan to shut down. The club contested the relegation against Maritimo and lost that game. Maritimo was promoted to top division and we got relegated. Maritimo hasn't been relegated ever since.
Fabril has slowly been going up the ranks, from the low bottom regionals up to 3rd and is now a victory away of getting promoted to 2nd B.
Coincidentaly, the 3rd division will cease to exist. So in reality next weekend we either get promoted to the new 3rd tier National Chapionship, or relegated to regionals.
Go Fabril!
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: max_cady on May 27, 2013, 04:32:29 pm
I'm mad that Beira Mar dropped to the Honor League, though I'm sure they'll get back up next year...


Anyway, PORTUGAL x RUSSIA on June 7th! GO, TEAM, GO!
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: crackdude on May 27, 2013, 04:54:05 pm
I'm mad that Beira Mar dropped to the Honor League, though I'm sure they'll get back up next year...


Anyway, PORTUGAL x RUSSIA on June 7th! GO, TEAM, GO!
It's also sad to see Moreirense go.. Freaking Setubal made it again.
Go team! We're pretty much screwed any way lol
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: max_cady on May 27, 2013, 06:20:29 pm
Beira-Mar had a snowball's chance in Hell to stay in the Premier League, but oh, man... If Rio Ave didn't score  goal in their game against Olhanense, there might have been a chance as slim as it was.

Anyway, goodbye Beira Mar, Hello Arouca FC. The other Aveiro-based team that's gaining momentum. Good luck.

Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: Nameless 24 on May 28, 2013, 07:24:30 am
And Benfica lost. AGAIN.

In 2 weeks the idiots managed to lose the championship, the Europa, and now the cup! This has been one of the most delightful seasons ever!

The cherry on top of the cake would be for Fabril to win next week and get promoted to 2nd divison B.
Fabril is the 3rd division team from where I was born. Known in it's glory days as CUF, it managed 3rd place on the 1st division some 30 or 40 years ago. After the revolution in the mid 70's, the industrial region it was based on (and provided the moonies) bagan to shut down. The club contested the relegation against Maritimo and lost that game. Maritimo was promoted to top division and we got relegated. Maritimo hasn't been relegated ever since.
Fabril has slowly been going up the ranks, from the low bottom regionals up to 3rd and is now a victory away of getting promoted to 2nd B.
Coincidentaly, the 3rd division will cease to exist. So in reality next weekend we either get promoted to the new 3rd tier National Chapionship, or relegated to regionals.
Go Fabril!

That's a much better position then my local team's position (relegated to the regional tier now).

Wait, are you Brazilian Max Cady? I assumed you were Portugese, but assumed you were from Portugal like crackdude.
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: crackdude on May 28, 2013, 09:55:40 am
That's a much better position then my local team's position (relegated to the regional tier now).

Wait, are you Brazilian Max Cady? I assumed you were Portugese, but assumed you were from Portugal like crackdude.
I know that feel.. :(

Why do you assume he's brazilian now? He's talking about portuguese teams lol
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: Nameless 24 on June 01, 2013, 06:18:18 pm
I know that feel.. :(

Why do you assume he's brazilian now? He's talking about portuguese teams lol

Yep.

Because those teams sound like Tier 1 Brazilian Teams to me? I know of one team in Brazil, but I can't pronounce it. XD
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: crackdude on June 02, 2013, 04:23:29 pm
Fabril drew 1-1.

Our rivals Barreirense (local 50 year old derby) won on another match and equalled our points. We had lost 1-0 at their turf and won 3-2 home.
So yeah, they got promoted. We got relegated by a single goal. Fucking saddness man..
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: max_cady on June 03, 2013, 02:21:09 am
What? Naw, man, I am portuguese through and through.

Though, I do know some teams from the Brazilian soccer league: Botafogo, Palmeiras, Flamengo, Fluminense, Corinthians, Vasco da Gama (which is the name of a famous portuguese explorer).

Beira-Mar is the main team from the Aveiro district as in their are based in the city. Arouca FC is from a small town a bit to the north and quite frankly not very easy to reach (Sever de Vouga is a pain to get to, I can't even imagine Arouca).

Arouca FC has been quite the success story. They were in the III division in 2007 and in just 5 years they've jumped into Premier League. It is very uncommon for Tier III teams to jump this high.
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: crackdude on June 03, 2013, 05:51:40 am
Did Arouca get some money investment? Or was it purely skillful management?
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: max_cady on June 03, 2013, 09:55:07 am
They had a couple of coaches. Henrique Nunes (which according to his resumé, has managed mostly Tier III and Tier II teams) was the one that got them to win the play-off to play in the Vitalis League(aka the Honor Division). He replaced by Vítor Oliveira, who managed Desportivo das Aves, Belenenses and a couple of other Honor League regulars.

All I know is that Caixa Agrícola is their big sponsor. So I'm guessing it's a bit of both.
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: Nameless 24 on June 05, 2013, 03:44:40 pm
What? Naw, man, I am portuguese through and through.

Even that context is inaccurate, Brazilians are technically Portugese too like Americans being "English". XD

I get what you mean though.

So now my local team has a lifeline because another club went into Administration before us, it seems we could still be put in the same league as before, but it's unlikely.

Seems Manchester City and the New York Yankees are heavily investing in a new New York Soccer team to rival the New York Bulls....it'd be inetersting to see if it does happen and that I will certainly support them when they are up and running (yes, it has something to do with City, but at least City fans in America can support a surrogate team as a substitute when City's not so accessable to watch).
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: crackdude on June 05, 2013, 03:54:07 pm
Even that context is inaccurate, Brazilians are technically Portugese too like Americans being "English". XD
lol no.

They are half-portuguese descendants at best.
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: Aki-at on June 06, 2013, 09:09:27 am
lol no.

They are half-portuguese descendants at best.

That's pretty much what Nameless is saying, mostly English heritage mixed in with other nationalities.
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: crackdude on June 06, 2013, 12:10:02 pm
That's pretty much what Nameless is saying, mostly English heritage mixed in with other nationalities.
I thought the English eradicated the american natives..
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: Nameless 24 on June 07, 2013, 03:35:19 pm
I thought the English eradicated the american natives..

I believe that was a mixture too, but yes mostly the English reduced the Native population.

And yes, Aki understands what I mean...it's like the Carribean people of today aren't "really" Carribean since they are decsendants of many African Tribes (I am part Jamaican for example, but I have NO idea what African nation my ancestors were from), they are still "African", because they were African slaves that were colonised by the British, French etc but they're Carribean by name.

Brazilians are technically Portugese since they speak the same language as the Portugese (and colonised by you guys), but I didn't mean that they are 1:1 Portugese. I just assumed Max_Cady was speaking about a Brazilian Team due to how the spelling of the team.

The same confusion could happen if I mentioned a team from Salum in Ipswitch and one of you guys assume I was talking about an American Team based in the infamous Salum there. :P
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: crackdude on June 12, 2013, 09:52:07 am
Oh! Yeah I got it now!

I guess I was being a bit anal on the subject lol
Yeah, I guess it can be confusing, there is no way of telling if a team is portuguese or brazilian by it's name unless you know the teams beforehand..

Sometimes I wonder:
Here in Portugal many people follow the Spanish and English leagues. Do you "foreign people" follow the Portuguese Liga?
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: max_cady on June 12, 2013, 03:43:56 pm
I'm partial to Arsenal, I follow the Barclays League with mild curiosity. Don't really care much about La Liga and the Bundesligue.

I watch Major League Soccer, if only because I think it's cute. LA Galaxy, DC United and all.

Anyway, this Saturday,  Conferedations Cup 2013 is kicking off... A little Soccer championship to give us a little Soccer fix to hold us of till August.
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: Nameless 24 on June 13, 2013, 06:33:15 am
Oh! Yeah I got it now!

I guess I was being a bit anal on the subject lol
Yeah, I guess it can be confusing, there is no way of telling if a team is portuguese or brazilian by it's name unless you know the teams beforehand..

Sometimes I wonder:
Here in Portugal many people follow the Spanish and English leagues. Do you "foreign people" follow the Portuguese Liga?

I sadly don't but I know more Portugese teams than German or Italians ones.

I plan on following the MLS and see how crap it is. lol

The only reason why the British don't really follow other leagues is because fucking SKY has a monopoly on what they show, and it's sadly the Premier League with bits of other countries games.

ESPN is better but not at ALL consistent...sometimes they show the big games of Italy/Germany/Spain but only now and again show "Derbies" of lower teams.

Our coverage is a joke.
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: crackdude on June 13, 2013, 08:49:08 am
Here everything is paid, even our own league's broadcasts. But it's cool, cause it's all (all our games and many from some 5/6 other leagues + NBA/NFL/NHL/F1/WRC etc) under the same service for 25euros/month.

I have some family in the UK, and yeah they say Sky is a joke.
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: Nameless 24 on June 13, 2013, 09:09:28 am
Here everything is paid, even our own league's broadcasts. But it's cool, cause it's all (all our games and many from some 5/6 other leagues + NBA/NFL/NHL/F1/WRC etc) under the same service for 25euros/month.

I have some family in the UK, and yeah they say Sky is a joke.

Surprised you don't live in the UK too being family an all.

I don't have Sky, I have Virgin but they are both shit.
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: crackdude on June 13, 2013, 09:13:58 am
Surprised you don't live in the UK too being family an all.

I don't have Sky, I have Virgin but they are both shit.
Naw man.. I don't mean to be rude, but for me the UK would be a very shitty place to live lol
Some of my relatives love it, but my lifestyle is completely based around portuguese culture (the sun, the coffee, the beer, the relaxation..). I do enjoy spending some time in the UK, I go there often. It can be a good place to live in. It's just not for me.
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: Nameless 24 on June 13, 2013, 09:33:39 am
Naw man.. I don't mean to be rude, but for me the UK would be a very shitty place to live lol
Some of my relatives love it, but my lifestyle is completely based around portuguese culture (the sun, the coffee, the beer, the relaxation..). I do enjoy spending some time in the UK, I go there often. It can be a good place to live in. It's just not for me.

Most of the poorer UK Residents think the same sadly, but we can't move so freely. :(

Portugal and Spain have the same ideas, lol...I'd rather live in Portugal though as the people will be much friendlier.

I see, that's interesting to know.
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: crackdude on June 13, 2013, 09:52:36 am
Yeah, Portugal and Spain are similar, but we differ in some things as well.
I love Portugal, but due to the current state of the economy I wouldn't recommend it for now.. Tho it's great for people with lots of doosh, since everything is pretty cheap here.
Title: Re: Topic of Soccer Madness
Post by: Nameless 24 on June 13, 2013, 09:55:29 am
Yeah, Portugal and Spain are similar, but we differ in some things as well.
I love Portugal, but due to the current state of the economy I wouldn't recommend it for now.. Tho it's great for people with lots of doosh, since everything is pretty cheap here.

I guess, but still.

I am also a poor person, so I couldn't afford to anyway. :(