The second link is from April's Fools 2009.
The first one is being discussed in this thread: http://segabits.com/forums/index.php?topic=2552.0
It's cool to speculate. Especially when in comes to Shenmue III. But every single freaking year there are Shen3 rumours before E3. So don't get your hopes up. It's a shot in the dark.
3raser, Shenmue III is being discussed in the thread that crackdude posted. Read it thoroughly and you'll see that.
Crackdude isn't being an... I'm quite sure of that. In any case, here's to a successful thread.
Wow. Some of the people on here were being very rude to 3raser, even when 3raser tried to be kind to them.
Wow. Some of the people on here were being very rude to 3raser, even when 3raser tried to be kind to them. .Nobody was rude to 3raser. I just pointed out that the first link's content was already being discussed in another thread and gave my opinion. I'm not against the existance of this thread at all. I don't get 3raser's defensive attitude on this one really.
Nobody was rude to 3raser. I just pointed out that the first link's content was already being discussed in another thread and gave my opinion. I'm not against the existance of this thread at all. I don't get 3raser's defensive attitude on this one really.
What an overall pointless discussion this is.
You stated that you were not against this thread, then again you said it was pointless. I'm not sure what you are trying to say. Please stop posting useless arguments that do not make any sense anyway. I really hope you will not be hostile about this thread anymore. I just want this to be a Shenmue topic. Is that too much to ask?THIS discussion YOU are constantly feeding is pointless. Because THIS discussion has nothing to YOUR topic.
THIS discussion YOU are constantly feeding is pointless. Because THIS discussion has nothing to YOUR topic.
So either stop playing victim and talk about Shenmue or get the thread locked up and be a victim.
To finally start being ON-TOPIC, Shenmue III is an excellent idea. I think the creator has held off creating it for so long because he wants everyone to be in anticipation. If the script was already written, then why not make the game?(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2013/05/money.jpg)
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Actually, to be fair, a new Shenmue game now would probably cost about as much as a Yakuza game. Problem is that SEGA knows Yakuza games sell enough for them to make their money back, while for a new Shenmue game this isn't certain. Especially seeing how long it's been since the last Shenmue game.
That is a very good point. Can't believe how I always forget about PC as a possible platform for the series. While I would love so, I think it is unlikely SEGA's gonna go PC only. I think a lot of people wouldn't be too happy with that. I too feel that shenmue is very much a console experience. But I do think it could be multiplatform with PC.
Most gaming companies would release a game for multiple consoles. Including PC, mobile phone, Xbox 360/One, PS3/4, and WiiU. I do not see why Sega would want to make it only for one console. It would not have much success that way.Same reason Sonic Lost World is Wii U exclusive: funding.
Exclusivity would be likely only because I doubt Shenmue III would ever happen without someone putting up the money for it, and of course that company would want the game exclusively on their system.
I might actually donate a lot money to Sega for them to make that game.And this just shows how little you know about how much Shenmue III would cost to make. :V
And this just shows how little you know about how much Shenmue III would cost to make. :VMaybe he's filthy rich, you never know..
heres the thing about sega releasing shenmue three they would have to keep the save transfer in tact because without the save transfer shenmue isnt the same without that then it aint the same journey you were destined to have based on your decisions from the first game (or first two if your japanese or european) and they simply cant do that without packing in some magical piece of hardware that they would have to pack in either that or they would have to re-release the first two games to go along with the third
I don't really remember them saying that the story would change based on your decisions, at least not to the extent that that was promised with something like Mass Effect. I thought it was more just your fighting skill progression and various collections that you'd carry with you from chapter to chapter.This.
Oh man, you don't even know. I mean come on, as a SEGA fan, any kind of SEGA related capsule toy just had to be owned right XD? It got a bit extreme eventually. With the forklift races you'd win a forklift with each race depending on where you placed. Everyday I would let myself be placed differently to get all the numbered forklifts. I loved that The SEGA references everywhere weren't just plastered or advertised. It felt like the real thing. Shenmue is such a great game sigh.
I'm kinda disappointed this was on Sega Nerds and not here, but... http://www.seganerds.com/2013/06/03/ryo-hazuki-voice-actor-confirms-he-hasnt-worked-on-shenmue-3/
“The picture of me back in studio is a recent picture, in fact very recent, but with non-disclosure agreements, I cannot reveal what project I’m working on,” he said. “I can say, however, I’m not working on Shenmue 3. I’m saying right now, it’s not 3, so please don’t freak out too much.”
I'll be honest, I didn't see it as newsworthy and I didn't post it. Other writers were free to post it, but I'll assume they didn't find it newsworthy either. When the photo first went up, nothing really pointed to it being SEGA related. He did post a SEGA related photo, but it was unconnected to the recording pic. So at best, the news would be "Ryo VA, who has a career outside of SEGA, posted a new photo of him in a studio". Wasn't much of a story, and I'm not a fan of stirring up the Shenmue 3 rumor pot.
Then he revealed it was not Shenmue 3. So the news is now "the Ryo VA, who posted a photo of himself in a studio, is not working on Shenmue 3." So basically non-news. At most, the interview is the noteworthy bit, and thats their original content, not ours.
Sorry, sorry, wasn't nearly as disappointed as I may have inferred :P I understand. Mostly wanted to share that tidbit with anyone else who found this rumor intriguing.
I'm not entirely sure why Barry the Nomad posted what he did. I just know that it might be because he did not like the idea. I could be wrong though. The link you have is somewhat reliable, so I think I could probably trust that Yu Suzuki did in fact say what it says he said. If he is not working on Shenmue 3, then I'm not sure why you would post about it in a thread full of people hoping he would. I guess he could still be thinking of making something Shenmue related though...
'm kinda disappointed this was on Sega Nerds and not here, but... http://www.seganerds.com/2013/06/03/ryo-hazuki-voice-actor-confirms-he-hasnt-worked-on-shenmue-3/
I was explaining to Mengels why I didn't post the Ryo voice actor story.
Our site's content and SegaNerds' is certainly not identical, this is true.....our sites have nothing to do with each other and we have our own writing team, as do they, and the writers of both sites post stories that they/we feel are worth posting.
I personally didn't post the story because I'm not a huge fan of posting rumors. They tend to get people excited and then disappointed. If Shenmue III is announced then you can be sure it will be posted about on SEGAbits.
Oh. Ok. I didn't read it all. Sorry.
Sega has more important things to do with their time, like porting Jack Lumber to PC and not translating Yakuza 5.
Sega has more important things to do with their time, like porting Jack Lumber to PC and not translating Yakuza 5.
I have never heard of Jack Lumber. I have no idea if it is a good game or not. Go easy on Mademan. He has an opinion like the rest of you. Sega may just have the game so deep in development that they could not announce it at E3 this year. That is my opinion.
Mademan can take it.
Anyway, doubt the game is "deep in development". At most, the first two might be close to ready for an HD release, but very doubtful that anybody is working on Shenmue 3 at the moment.
Mademan can take it.
Anyway, doubt the game is "deep in development". At most, the first two might be close to ready for an HD release, but very doubtful that anybody is working on Shenmue 3 at the moment.
Perhaps Sega could release Shenmue III along with the first two games in hd on the same disc. Kind of like they did for Tekken 1-3 on the Tekken 5 disc. At least people who have never heard of the first two would know what it's about. I'm probably just a little too over-exited about it though.
1. Your idea is bad because of what I mentioned before...
2. ...You are "over-exited."
Correction: "excited"
Ended what?
How people keep posting that they want a Shenmue III in this thread. It would be the worst game of all time if they released a Shenmue III right now.
'Sif magic wasn't a part of Shenmue 2 all along though. That old dude touching the tree and causing all the leaves to fall off is magic.
In any event, I could picture the mass suicide of Shenmue fans when they announce it with
"We're aiming for a broader audience with an open world, cinematic and visceral experience exclusive to Xbox One. The game will be free to play, but players can utilise micro-transactions something, something Kinect."
Earlier in this thread, someone discussed a PC game, then a similar game to be made for the main consoles. That is not really a bad idea. It's just that the story would have to be very similar to the PC version.
That's probably the most ridiculous thing I have heard in a while. PC games are awesome, so I don't think Sega should ruin them with one bad game that starts a chain of bad games.
That's probably the most ridiculous thing I have heard in a while. PC games are awesome, so I don't think Sega should ruin them with one bad game that starts a chain of bad games.
I for one wouldn't mind Shen3 going all DBZ.
A Shenmue III stopped making sense after the 128bit generation. The technology used for the games make up a lot of the "game feel". A Shen3 released today would be so technologically far away from the other two entries that it would feel like a different game series altogether.
So just make it really different. But also make it very good.
We would get a conclusion for the series (it could be full of magic and dragon balls; as long as it made sense, I doubt fans would be pissed), and a good game on it's own (a game unaffected by the outdatedness of it's predecessors).
Please Sega, don't make another Shenmue game or your company will be gone forever. I wouldn't be able to play any new games by Sega at that point.Are you implying that regardless of what Shen3 Sega puts out, it'll be shit? That makes zero sense.
Please Sega, don't make another Shenmue game or your company will be gone forever. I wouldn't be able to play any new games by Sega at that point.
Even then the problem is that Sega owns the codes and the engine i'm not sure if they were willing to part with them just for someone else to do it as well as the fact that whoever licenses it are willing to pay Sega the privilege to use the engine and the codes IE extra money on top of using the IP and knowing today's world a percentage on top of the usual one. But time will tell on that one
Shenmue III would be a much better game regardless of what they do to it. They could not screw it up. It would be impossible because everyone wants a real ending instead of a cliffhanger.
What engine ? The Shenmue engine is old hat now and getting that to run on current consoles is not as easy as one thinks and no matter what people really say ; most gamers will no pay money for a Shenmue III game running on an engine that some 14 years old now . The Big trouble for Shenmue is its a series that never made money and where the sequel sold far less than the original, that's the major trouble for the game sadly and why SEGA never mind any other Studio wants to go near it
One can't say that really; Sure the script is done but then you have to have game design to make any Shenmue III interesting to play and the trouble is if SEGA did make a watered down Shenmue III - then people will bash SEGA to the high heavens . Shenmue III and IV (given there's some 10 chapters left to be told ) needs to be lavish productions and that team means a Huge Team and a huge budget to give gamers the Shenmue sequel they should get.
Shenmue III and IV (given there's some 10 chapters left to be told ) needs to be lavish productions and that team means a Huge Team and a huge budget to give gamers the Shenmue sequel they should get.
Dont be frigging stupid, dont you think Yu Suzuki and Sega knows that? You dont think they wouldn't even overhaul it? Like they tweaked it when they tried to do SHENMUE ONLINE? You really are desperate aren't you?
Suzuki stated a while back that he believes he could wrap up the entire story in a third release. Whether this means omitting certain chapters (like Ryo's ride on the ship between I and II), or just because game discs can contain much more content now, he hasn't specified
I don't have a clue what you are on about . Shenmue Online wasn't even using the Shenmue engine and when SEGA allowed 3rd parties to use the Shenmue engine - not one took it up and that was on the DC . The engine is now years old and of no use to any developer , so any new Shenmue would either have to use the likes of Unreal 3/4 , Yakuza 5 engine or use a custom built one not that the game major issue .
No because you usually dont have a clue on what you go on about you can't keep up with your own questions. SHENMUE ONLINE used many assets from the previous games and used the engine. Suzuki stated that countless times considering he was overseeing the project and the game was partly funded by Sega. So using what happened with the DC doesn't prove a thing.
Shenmue Online development started in February 2003, and the first official news of "cancellation" was Yu Suzuki saying this on September 17th, 2008: "Due to a situation, the project is in a “pending” state. But personally, I’m hoping to be reunited with Shenmue Online. I haven’t given up.”
The last we had seen from the game was from China Joy 2006, I believe. Three years isn't really that quickly.
It's bound to do better than they expect. I mean, Shenmue I sold 1.2 million, Shenmue II on DC was the most imported game of all time (might still be), and they're bound to get some curiosity purchases because of all of the buzz about the game and the mysterious third installment. It'd likely cost less than modern games like RDR, as George mentioned, and they'd forever be known as a company who cares a great deal about fan service. SEGA would never not be known in the gaming community as the company who put out Shenmue III.
Not exactly much to add to the topic, but thought it might be worth mentioning, since it is sorta related to Shenmue, but I just got word that Lisle Wilkerson, the voice of Joy in Shenmue II (As well as Sarah in Virtua Fighter and Gena in Crazy Taxi) will be making a personal appearance in Rockford, IL on Dec. 27th-29th at the Anime Apocalypse Convention...
Not exactly much to add to the topic, but thought it might be worth mentioning, since it is sorta related to Shenmue, but I just got word that Lisle Wilkerson, the voice of Joy in Shenmue II (As well as Sarah in Virtua Fighter and Gena in Crazy Taxi) will be making a personal appearance in Rockford, IL on Dec. 27th-29th at the Anime Apocalypse Convention...
I'm pretty sure every time he's in public, someone asks him about Shenmue III. In that recent video in which he joined the interview with David Cage, the first thing he said was that he was getting a little tired of being asked about Shenmue III. He knows we want it -- he wants to do it -- but he's got to work out the business details.
I sure hope people can convince him. A lot of people want Shenmue III very badly.
That was definitely worth mentioning. I would also like to know when/where the creator of Shenmue might be. Like, if he was in public. That way someone could ask him about a third game. A trilogy is always better than only two games. It would make the series more memorable.
I'm pretty sure someone asks Yu Suzuki about Shenmue III whenever he makes a public appearance. It's unavoidable, as Centrale already stated.
As for a trilogy being more memorable than a duo, that's kind of debatable. People still hound Yu Suzuki with questions of Shenmue III and whether or not it's going to happen. Those two games must be pretty memorable. Besides, sometimes - not always, but sometimes - a third chapter never turns out as well as the last. Twisted Metal 3 (terrible), The Godfather Part III (weak sauce), Return of the Jedi (Death Star Part Deux), Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines ("Talk to the hand....") The Dark Knight Rises (Robin?!) and Superman III....
Sometimes you should just stop at 2. *shivers*
It's a matter of opinion, sure. That doesn't make it invalid though. Especially since I took many opinions into account when writing that statement and I didn't say all trilogies are bad. I said "sometimes you should stop at 2." Believe it or not, I enjoy Return of the Jedi. However, I wouldn't say it was the high-water mark of the franchise....most fans wouldn't.
Movies may be an unfair comparison, so I'll stick to games. To be fair, I do enjoy a good 3. I think Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception is better than the last. Critically and financially speaking, it faired better than its predecessor. I'd go so far as to call that a certified hit, while I'm sure not everyone enjoys it. Still, its success is undeniable. Grand Theft Auto III is stellar in many respects. I can't say the same about Twisted Metal III, or Silent Hill 3, or Resident Evil 3, or Tomb Raider 3. The last few may have recieved some praise here and there, but they're not held in the same high regard as their previous entries, nor did they sell as well. Not really. I'm not saying they're terrible; just not as good.
These links are important to look over, if there are any of you that do not think Shenmue III is a possibility.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/03/03/french-reporter-says-yu-suzuki-hasn-39-t-ruled-out-shenmue-3-kickstarter.aspx.
http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/21/david-cage-and-yu-suzuki-discuss-shenmue-and-story-telling/
http://www.screwattack.com/news/reporter-claims-there’s-possibility-shenmue-3-kickstarter?page=1
You posted about Toshiba buying Sega a long time ago. That obviously turned out to be false. I could post a bunch of random forum posts about something too. It just means that a lot of people are talking about it, which does not make anything true.
No. I did not say that I thought Toshiba would buy Sega. I simply said that Toshiba could buy part of Sega to make Sega sponsored laptops. That was a different topic entirely. I realize that Shenmue III has not officially been announced yet. It's just that a lot of people are talking about it. Shenmue II was the only game that could beat Shenmue. Shenmue III will be the only game to beat Shenmue II. Once again, that's only my opinion. At the same time it's only your opinion that Shenmue III will not be made. The websites that I just listed were not forum posts. They were news of Yu Suzuki, the creator of the franchise, talking about the future of Shenmue games with a French journalist.
Yu Suzuki said he would not make another Shenmue III in those very threads. I have nothing more to say to you about this topic.
Uhh... no he didn't. He's said quite the opposite. Not only has he stated that he wants to make it, he has said that he feels he must make it. Whether or not he can find a way to get the financial backing is what everyone is wondering about, but there isn't any doubt that he wants to do it.
Then he will not make much money from it. He would probably just be wasting money and time. Hardly anyone remembers the first two games. They had very negative reception.
You are wasting our time by telling us how unsuccessful the games will be. You have your right to an opinion just like everyone else. I respect your opinion, if you respect mine. I know it would be difficult for true Shenmue fans to convince the people of Sega and Yu Suzuki himself to creat the game. It's just that in the links he was speaking of a kickstart we for a third game. He was not saying that he would stop the franchise entirely.
They would need to create a game as a sequel to two of the worst games ever made.
^Dude, there's not even a jump button LOL
In real life, people don't jump. I can't even think of the last time a jump factored into a day-to-day activity. Shenmue is as real as you can get.
I appreciate the fact that you finally decided to be more constructive; however before you said you did not have anything else to say to me about this topic. You have also said some of the same things over and over. I'm not sure what you are trying to do. If you do not support a Shenmue III, then why would you want to post anything in a Shenmue III thread? Thanks for bumping the thread again for no reason.
I'm on the fence in regards to how I feel about Shenmue III right now. Back when the first one came out I was absolutely blown away by it. It felt to me to be way ahead of its time completely drawing you into the intriguing world it had set out for you, more interactive than many modern takes on the almost "interactive movie" genre of game. Be it the time based events or the simplest things I could interact with, I loved the game except maybe the having to actually go to work on time in a video game but even that was fascinating.
Then we got to Shenmue II which I had to first frustratingly experience in Japanese which really broke the pace for me. Sure the English voice acting was never mind blowing but I prefer to play big epic stories like this in English. Then later I got to play it again in English on the Xbox - I probably enjoyed the game as much as the first one. Left on a huge cliff hanger and since then it has just been stuck in limbo to the point I've more or less given up. I mean we pretty much all know how it is going to end anyway right?
These games couldn't make their money back, back in the day. In today's world could this work with modern standards, would enough people buy it? Have that many people played it? I mean the first game was Dreamcast exclusive. I would like to see a Shenmue III, I'd love to see what they can achieve with modern technology but I can see it being pure fan service at this point. I can't see it selling well.
Heartwarming..
But what does he mean "aquire Shenmue license from Sega"? Isn't he at Sega anymore?
Nah. He left a while ago.Where he at?
Where he at?
A vid from our rivals.
Yu Suzuki still does video game related stuff. He's just retired from Sega. I think he might want to make another Shenmue. It's just that Sega will not let him. I can't really blame Sega for that.
I am sure he could convince Sega to publish his game. The only problem he is having is the budget situation, which will probably be solved eventually. I really would not mind what platform or console the game will be on. As long as I can finally play Shenmue III.
They made a mobile game a while back. Isn't that good enough?
They made a mobile game a while back. Isn't that good enough?
I removed my vote because I never played any Shemue games in my life. I was just trolling. I'm sorry everyone.
Pcm92, I have never heard ANYONE call themselves a troll. I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic, bored out of your mind, or if there is something mentally wrong with you. Thank you for removing your vote. I think.
Back to Shenmue III, most people that are against this idea have said something about Sega's budget. If Shenmue III was made, then would it not cost the same amount as any other game? I really wouldn't mind if it was low-budget to tell the truth. At least we would all finally see the end of this mysterious cliffhanger. It could not be low-budget if they made it though because people would pay a lot of money to make up for what money Sega spent on the game itself, so Sega should want to make the game. They would be making money from it because almost every Sega fan has been waiting for it.
"video game news outlets" are still a thing? Some people take gaming waay too seriously.
You definately make a good point there. It used to be different though. People now play games online and buy download content. We used to be able to get our lazy selves off the couch and into the video game rental stores to rent a game we would play for a short time before we had to return it to the store. I miss those days.
I don't know what to think of Shenmue III, if I have never played the first two. I just think that Sega should focus on a few other franchises before going back to one that might not make that much money.
Why would convenience be a bad thing?
I am not sure why you keep saying they do not have the money or that they will not make enough of it. Sega makes plenty of games and every game that a company makes will make more money than what they spend on making it. Shenmue III is one of those games that has the potential to be one of the best selling games that Sega has ever made.
It was just an opinion. Like I said, I don't know what to think about it. Shenmue II could have been improved a lot. Shenmue III would have to feature the first two as being playable as an option (new and improved versions). They would need the first two because there are people - including me - that have never played any Shenmue games.
In my mind, pcm92 sounds like a robotic semmie
I think he was banned about two months after I joined this website.Yeah he was.. I was joking of course, but it was just a comment on how you are a bit confusing at times lol
Yeah he was.. I was joking of course, but it was just a comment on how you are a bit confusing at times lol
You don't even have to buy the games really, NullDC runs ISOs just fine from what I'm told..
No posting download links on the forums please. ;)
She mute III is still happening!
http://www.igameresponsibly.com/2013/11/27/cerny-and-suzuki-may-reveal-shenmue-iii-at-gdc-2014/
http://www.ps4site.com/news/shenmue-3-on-the-horizon/
http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/14960/article/shenmue-voice-actor-teases-fans-with-pictures-from-sega/
Shenmue III is finally going to be announced. Just watch this video!
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/mark-cerny-and-shenmue-at-gdc-2014-30955238/
Yu Suzuki will be interviewed about the future of the Shenmue series next month. He will most likely say that it will not be continued. That is just what I think though. Take a look at the following link for yourself:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/205541/Yu_Suzuki_revisits_Shenmue_in_GDC_2014_Classic_Game_Postmortem.php
How does he know and why does he think that Yu owns the IP?
I still want to know why the guy in the link posted believes Yu owns the license. Does he have evidence?
I am not sure who created the article. It DOES say that it was posted by the GDC staff though. I know that it is not a forum website and that there really is going to be a GDC this year. According to the article, Yu Suzuki will be interviewed about the future of Shenmue. I do not know if that part is fact or just a hopeful guess. I - like most people who know about this franchise - wish he would finally announce if he will be considering a new Shenmue game or not.
There is nothing on the official GDC site about Yu Suzuki being interviewed about the future of Shenmue. You're referring to a random forum post, not the GDC event info. The only thing Yu Suzuki is doing at GDC is talking about the development of the games that have already been released.
Yu Suzuki has already stated multiple times in the past few years that he wants to make Shenmue 3, but it's a matter of getting the funds to do so from a publisher, which hasn't happened yet (as far as we know). So, is he 'considering' making Shenmue 3? He's already got it planned out, but he's done as much as he can so far. It's really not a question of if he wants to. It's a question of if he can convince a publisher to fund it.
Update: It should be noted that the database shows two dead trademarks for Shenmue. One, filed on February 18, 1999 and cancelled on January 17, 2009, pertains to “computer game programs and prerecorded discs and ROMs for computer game programs”. This is likely referring to the original Shenmue for the SEGA Dreamcast.
The one that was cancelled on Valentine’s Day pertains to “entertainment services, namely, providing an online computer game”. This one was filed on August 25, 2003. The now cancelled Shenmue Online was officially announced in 2004, meaning this recent dead trademark is likely for that game and the potential for games like it.
Teanslation it is a Japanese thing, so why are we talking about it. If Shemue III, release it should be on the DC2, not a rubbish Microsoft BS system.
It's sorta hard to go back to a story-driven game that last saw a release over 12 years ago and then try to tell its third chapter. Can't imagine how Shenmue III would appeal to anyone other than the small but vocal Shenmue fanbase. IMO, Sega would need to do HD rereleases of the first two games or a complete reboot before even thinking about Shenmue III.
It's the game that every true SEGA fan has been waiting for!
SEGA would not have to do this in order to sell a successfull Shenmue III. All they would have to do is make the game and release it. All of the Shenmue fans from before would be thrilled that their dream of playing a new Shenmue game after all these years had come true. Yu Suzuki wants to do it. The only problem is who owns the liscense to the franchise. If SEGA would finally let him make the game with them, then it would definately sell. Even people who have never heard of the series would give it a try. Japanese games sell very good in the U.K. and the U.S.
It's the game that every true SEGA fan has been waiting for!
Here is a good idea, why don't they do Shenmue III for the Dreamcast, and release the original Shenmue Saturn build ( which has tons of video ), with the bicycle and original story. Why not? I am sure somebody would jump up, for Shenmue Sega saturn? They could call it the fan release of the game, and pre-order just like how Falcom, has an english page, but ships everything express. I wouldn't mind paying -200, for a new Shenmue, as long as I get to play the complete Saturn build. Maybe even have video records, showcasing VR2 work environment, and a bit of their home life ( I know too much to ask for ).
Something tells me he wasn't serious.
Something tells me he wasn't serious.
He was. He posted something very similar before. Shenmue I & II will never have a sequel. This was even claimed by Sega at one point. Think about it. Why would they wait more than fifteen years to make a sequel?
1. You see, while the Dreamcast was selling, their was also people, making copies of the official disc. Pretty sure SEGA, has a bypass for that soughta thing. Sega could make a freeloader boot disc, to load from CD, if they had to. People could buy that in the package as well.
2. Shenmue for the Saturn was reported finished, by it's creator.
3. People would be buying the Shenmue Saturn, and Shenmue III, Dreamcast. Together in one package. Not seperated. So people will have two reasons to buy Shenmue. People who do not want either, could always pawn it, if they feel like it.
So you expect them to create something similar to the Utopia boot disc
Link to an article where Yu Suzuki says that. You might be right, but I'd still like to see where he said it.
You don't see Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo doing this for any of their old games/consoles, not even with games that were hits. It's asinine. No one wants this. New gamers won't play them because they don't own these old consoles, and collectors don't want this because it floods the market with remakes that undermine the value of original releases.
It's asinine.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/01/05/yu-suzuki-talks-shenmue-3 (http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/01/05/yu-suzuki-talks-shenmue-3)
I definately don't think it is over with. I think the new generation of consoles definately has potential to make the game. The rest of you who do not agree are just being too pessimistic. The two major consoles that have been released are the Xbox One and the PS4. The minor console was the WiiU. They all three release Japanese related video games. Sleeping Dogs was nothing like a shenmue game. I don't want to play as an undercover police officer. I want to play as Ryo Hazuki!
I'm a Sega fan. I haven't been waiting for it because it was already released. That's right! Shenmue 3 was not released under Sega. It was released under United Front. They were so good at creating Shenmue 3 that they used a new title. A Shenmue 4 is going to be released too. Here is how: Shenmue 3=Sleeping Dogs. Shenmue 4=Sleeping Dogs 2: Triad Wars.
RegalSin, ik snap nog steeds niet hoe je niet verbannen bent van dit forum. Jouw posts zijn gewoon te geniaal.
Just a matter of time:
http://history.sydlexia.com/index.php?title=RegalSin
Whoa. I just thought he was stupid, not a troll. Silly me.
Probably a little from "Column A" and a little from "Column B."
Rumor has it that the HD ports have been completed for a while. :( Here's hoping whatever the holdup was has been cleared. Some say it is rights issues, but I can't imagine what right's issues there are (music maybe?). Or it could be that they wanted it ready for PS4 and XB1?
I'm afraid those HD ports would make the same sucess as the Yakuza HD port.
Then the dream about Shenmue III would be buried again :(
I'm afraid those HD ports would make the same sucess as the Yakuza HD port.
Then the dream about Shenmue III would be buried again :(
Didn't Yakuza HD fail because it was on Wii-U? That system is poison for sales of anything other than Mario.
Big Third-Party Xbox One Exclusive
A reliable source has confirmed that Microsoft is going to have at least one "big" third-party exclusive reveal during their stage show. We don't know the exact game, but our source said the game is both something "unexpected" and "something people will be really excited about."
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/e3-2014-rumors/1100-6419935/
Which game comes to your mind? haha
Half Life 3.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/e3-2014-rumors/1100-6419935/
Which game comes to your mind? haha
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I was expecting to read some Shenmue III-related answers.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/e3-2014-rumors/1100-6419935/
Which game comes to your mind? haha
Those are just rumors.
Try this link:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-03-20-yu-suzuki-is-looking-into-kickstarter
It's for real. Yu wants to do a kickstarter for the third installment of Shenmue!
Yu Suzuki ( the guy with spikey hair ???? that was talking about Shenmue 11, in an interview???Shenmue 11?
Yu Suzuki ( the guy with spikey hair ??? ? that was talking about Shenmue 11, in an interview??? Back when he was cool and younger looking?> ) looking at his photos now, it looks kinda depressing. Rather then an game creator but looks like the corrupted people in Shenmue, if you understand.
The way I see his ideas, he is like anybody else we know who has plans for fictional works. Honestly he does not look so bad at all. He is like me or you but works for SEGA
Did you mean to type III instead of II or 11? Just because he gets older does not mean he will retire from the gaming market altogether. I am sure that he still has a few ideas before that. I am including Shenmue III in this. I gaurantee that Yu will make a new Shenmue before he retires. He could even announce it at this year's E3. I bet he might. The new games for the new consoles are going to be announced, so why not? Besides, isn't Sega making some Steam machine or something like that soon?
Don't do it to yourself, son. Take it from me, never expect anything from Sega at E3. You'll get Aliens: Infestation and maybe if you're very lucky some new gameplay footage of the latest Sonic train-wreck. That's all you get, and that's all you'll ever get from Sega.
As for Shenners, boy it would be nice if it ever eventuated, but it'll take some serious doing. Why would MS or Sony pay for Shenmue when they can use that money to get CoD Map DLC exclusive for two weeks?
I said he might announce it at this E3. He hasn't so far. It might even take a few more years. Like you said, Sega is interested in all of their games that hardly anyone plays right now. I'm ready for Sega to make a comeback and release Shenmue III! Who's with me?
http://www.petitiononline.com/shen1986/petition.html
I can not believe SEGA did not announce Shenmue III this year. I guess they are waiting to see which system will succeed the most before they decide what platform to put it on. If SEGA does not release it in the next five years, then even I have to admit that they might not ever make it. I do have hopes for next year though. I hope all of you will too.It won't happen. The closest time SHENMUE 3 happened was early in the Xbox era. It won't happen now because Sega is basically another company now from the one in the early noughties. All they are concerned about is maintaining their status as one of the bigger games companies to a Japanese audience and updating those Japanese brands and conquering the mobile digital market. While the west will just get western PC titles and the occasional console title and Sonic. That's the reality of the situation. But here's another thing to ponder on. If western Sega fans can't get localized versions of PSO 2 and YAKUZA games which are not only successful(in asia) but are regularly updated then what chance really do you think that were going to get SHENMUE part 3? We haven't had a proper Sega RPG release in the west for a long time now which is NOT the Sega i know from my days actively buying their games. Downloading an app for something like CHAIN CHRONICLE is hardly the same as buying a package game,opening that game, slotting thame in the console and sitting down getting engrossed by the great RPG world that the masters of old Sega manage to craft. Oh well i must be getting old since that's obviously not what the public want or Sega wouldn't be doing it....
It won't happen. The closest time SHENMUE 3 happened was early in the Xbox era. It won't happen now because Sega is basically another company now from the one in the early noughties
I see yet another 'change of heart'. Some of us have been saying that for years and that we'll never see a Shenmue III from SEGA
SEGA could just put Shenmue characters in another game. I would be very happy to know that they would at least reference Shenmue in a game. Who knows? That might spark a newer generation of gamers to know about Shenmue, which could eventually cause a new game to be made.
SEGA could just put Shenmue characters in another game. I would be very happy to know that they would at least reference Shenmue in a game. Who knows? That might spark a newer generation of gamers to know about Shenmue, which could eventually cause a new game to be made.
There are a couple of references in Virtua Fighter still. You can make Akira look like Ryo, and there is the MJQ Jazz Bar in one of the stages.
Yawn, again some of us was saying it was happening when IT was happening back in the early noughties. Dont try to rewrite history just to make yourself look cool. Grow up for gods sake.
No need . Weren't so long ago you were saying Yu Suzuki was working on 4 games and how much of Shenmue III had been made. Some of us just 'tried' to point out that little of Shenmue III was made even on the DC.i never said it was coming for DC so that's a lie to start off.
i never said it was coming for DC so that's a lie to start off.
2003-2005 is long ago in my book. And some of us mentioned SHENMUE ONLINE that others scoffed at. Some of us including Sega themselves acknowledged SHENMUE 3 assets exist in one form or another. So keep making accusations that you can't back up. And i'll just post(when i have the time) what i exactly said. And what you said.
Don't come it . We had a huge thread on this site about it / Told you then little of Shenmue III had been developed and how any chance of Shenmue III was very slim for various money and politics reasons
We had many threads about it. But not once did i say it was coming on DC. Considering this site came way after the DC was canned by Sega. Try again.
We had many threads about it. But not once did i say it was coming on DC. Considering this site came way after the DC was canned by Sega. Try again.
Oh you did : When trying to make out how much of the game had been developed . I even had to post almost every Mag scans of Shenmue series to date , to show you how little of Shenmue III had been done on the DC and other than a tiny link of Shenmue III on the SEGA Europe website (in the DC days) that was pretty much all we ever got other than like 2 screen shots
I personally do not care about Shenmue anymore. It would be nice, but real life is far more exciting, their are tons of real people out their, you know but seriously, I mean it is worthless. I am illeterate in Japanese. Case closed, never can enjoy 95% of videogames or comics for that matter like a normal person ever.
Shenmue being released in a CD-case on the PC is good enough for me. It would mark the death, of console videogames, and Bill Gates, would dance on his ceiling. I am being fair, this is what is going to go down.
1. Shenmue is going to be released on some game system, that has not been invented yet.
2. Shenmue is going to be released on PC ( because their is no other choice ). CD-rom case.
3. Shenmue is going to be release on some stupid game console five year olds think is greatest thing
4. Shenmue is going to be released on the Dreamcast, just for the fun of it.
It has been ten years since we were like Shenmue III. It is time for us to make our own Shenmue, Adventure, Action Movie button pressing game. Capcom could do it, why can't we. Look at the Zelda game maker thingy.
Seriously with the current state of the nation ( that nation duh ), I can say, itis pointless, to talk about this, unless we were working on something.
I personally do not care about Shenmue anymore. It would be nice, but real life is far more exciting, their are tons of real people out their, you know but seriously, I mean it is worthless. I am illeterate in Japanese. Case closed, never can enjoy 95% of videogames or comics for that matter like a normal person ever.
Shenmue being released in a CD-case on the PC is good enough for me. It would mark the death, of console videogames, and Bill Gates, would dance on his ceiling. I am being fair, this is what is going to go down.
1. Shenmue is going to be released on some game system, that has not been invented yet.
2. Shenmue is going to be released on PC ( because their is no other choice ). CD-rom case.
3. Shenmue is going to be release on some stupid game console five year olds think is greatest thing
4. Shenmue is going to be released on the Dreamcast, just for the fun of it.
It has been ten years since we were like Shenmue III. It is time for us to make our own Shenmue, Adventure, Action Movie button pressing game. Capcom could do it, why can't we. Look at the Zelda game maker thingy.
Seriously with the current state of the nation ( that nation duh ), I can say, itis pointless, to talk about this, unless we were working on something.
Shenmue is already ruined. It has been over ten years, that is like me going back in time, to the NES or even Atari days. It is silly to dwell on the subject any further.
Wrong. When i joined Sega forums it was back in 2003/4, way after the DC had finished. S
I get bored of your lies and spin .
Who was saying this way back in 2010 ?
" Now people don't need to take mine or TA's word for face value really but only one of us is stating facts that anyone here can actually find evidence to back them up. The biggest one being Sega Europe made a press release about SHENMUE 3. The one if you trust kikizio who has inside knowledge about sega and have been invited to sega japan on more than one occassion but have ties with many of the employees and ex employess there as well. Or the fact that several ex employees stated that a third game did exist and so on.Now until someone clearly shows evidence that SHENMUE doesn't exist, instead of some quick hand comment or quote out of context, until someone can quote Yu saying we never made SHENMUE 3 instead of we got no plans for a third game making it ambigous than i suggest that person will shut up instead of turning this forum into "the world according to TA site and everyone else knows jack shit"
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Nope sorry, Sega didn't spend 70 million on a 4 disc game. it goes to show how little understanding you have for the industry. no suprise there then.
Now people don't need to take mine or TA's word for face value really but only one of us is stating facts that anyone here can actually find evidence to back them up. The biggest one being Sega Europe made a press release about SHENMUE 3. The one if you trust kikizio who has inside knowledge about sega and have been invited to sega japan on more than one occassion but have ties with many of the employees and ex employess there as well. Or the fact that several ex employees stated that a third game did exist and so on.
Now until someone clearly shows evidence that SHENMUE doesn't exist, instead of some quick hand comment or quote out of context, until someone can quote Yu saying we never made SHENMUE 3 instead of we got no plans for a third game making it ambigous than i suggest that person will shut up instead of turning this forum into "the world according to TA site and everyone else knows jack shit."
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Your words not mine .
SEGA was just starting to develope as a third party gaming company in 2003 & 2004. Most SEGA fans were wanting Shenmue III back then, and at least 30% of them still want a next generation Shenmue game. Probably more than that. Would you like a better link? Here are three:
http://www.ps3news.com/console-news/sega-considers-shenmue-iii-options-trade-exclusivity-for-funds/ (http://www.ps3news.com/console-news/sega-considers-shenmue-iii-options-trade-exclusivity-for-funds/)
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/205541/Yu_Suzuki_revisits_Shenmue_in_GDC_2014_Classic_Game_Postmortem.php (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/205541/Yu_Suzuki_revisits_Shenmue_in_GDC_2014_Classic_Game_Postmortem.php)
http://www.gamesradar.com/shenmue-3-review/ (http://www.gamesradar.com/shenmue-3-review/)
The links that I provided were from actual news websites. Shenmue III would be impossible not to make. The game has to be made. It WILL happen sometime in the current generation.
It will be the best addition to the entire Shenmue franchise.
My words on what? Sorry but still out of context to the discussion.
Shenmue III back in 2010 . Some us told you then that little of Shenmue 3 had been developed (even on the DC ) and that the chances of any new Shenmue game on the consoles very small
1. Shenmue is not a franchise, it is a series, a story, saga, etc. That is a corperate word.
2. Franchise means to say, how we use it. Meaning we make toys, toothpaste, glow pens, vibrators, candy.....Bomb-omb candy anyone? How about an EggoStraberry Salad with Matic magic matinee.
thinking positively, he has been in the spotlight a lot recently after many years of being quiet and he talks about how much he would like to make Shenmue 3 regularly... And weirdly enough I think recently the series has gained a lot more interest and the game has reached some kind of legendary status...
Maybe he is testing the water, seeing if there is still interest or trying to bait a publisher to give him funding... Well I can only hope.
Hasn't he said that he wants to make Shenmue III several times in the past? The talk about an episodic format is something I particularly remember from the past.
But I don't remember hearing anything about a fourth game. I would think it's not in his interest to make a fourth one, if a third one does get the go-ahead.
Most companies think of games as a Franchise these days and SHENMUE like it or not was thought of as one when Sega tried to spin off the material in various formats in the noughties. Franchise doesn't just include merchandise in the video game world. RYU GA GOTOKU is a franchise because the game has had several spin offs. As Sonic is. And unless you miss the boat there's quite a few SHENMUE merc out there.
Hasn't he said that he wants to make Shenmue III several times in the past? The talk about an episodic format is something I particularly remember from the past.
But I don't remember hearing anything about a fourth game. I would think it's not in his interest to make a fourth one, if a third one does get the go-ahead.
At various times, the entire Shenmue story has been described as being from 11 to 16 chapters total. Sounds like Suzuki has a plan to divide the remaining chapters between two more games.
Your not really understanding the marketing and advertisement procedures of videogames ( or any other products ). When the N64 debuted, Miyamoto started to come out of the closet ( not that one ), all the attention was focused on him. When in truth the N64 was created by former SGI employees. The N64 unit itself was an westerner technology. Why was it Miyamoto, showing his face this time around? Because people became in love with Japanese culture to the point, where seeing his face was not a shocker to the end consumer. That is why. The second reason is that game consumers started to respect the product, as artworks, and creativity next to films. More importantly, if the end consumer knew who really made the N64, they might have had problems.
Breaking the first rule of products. Never make your product represent you. Why? Because people will have issues ( tangents as Senn and SEGA forums ), with the person behind the product. Political and racial issues.
This was done a second time. Right now the game world is being open to consumers about business matters, why? Because they want to make the consumer feel they are just as important as well. Does the president and his cabinet controls what the programmer, art director, and writer does??? Chances are no. These corporate people do nothing at all, and these corporate words are pointless to the actual product. Look at OCP, when we see Robocop, do we see the people behind OCP, or only OCP??? When we see Robocop, do we see the directors, writers, producers, and studio and their private lives? Does it matter what kind of person you are giving your money too. Would that enterprising give a job to your brother, father, or sister, mother? I say breaking this rule, is not something a person should do.
Again the word franchise. A franchise means that Robocop can be a bowl of Ramen, an toy, an toilet, or even an camera device. To break away the focus from the actual product "Robocop" and focus directly on the company/corporation and do it, in a positive light, is the greatest thing a film studio wants from people. For videogame companies it is also a great thing for them, because it draws attention from the real people behind the product, as well as their ultimate goal. To sell as much fan-products to the consumer.
However we are talking about the actual product itself. Not any products at all. When a representative of a game company, or game comes out and uses the word FRANCHISE. They are disposition you, from the product and what it really is. They are trying to sell you something, that has nothing to do with the product at all, and call it the same product.
So why is that bad for us? Well, remember Megaman? ??? ? Remember how great it was to talk about the product itself. Just by saying the words, it makes you feel happy. Megaman....... Your mind if flooded with all the awesome game-play from all the different games. It never feels wrong to think about Megaman.
Now imagine, if Capcom just came out, and started calling Megaman a franchise, and made a couple of movies, animations, boardgames, but not one single game??? In a nutshell they have just swept Megaman under the rug, and made a bunch of cheap products, meant for the fans. I mean oh look Megaman drinking mug, I gots to have it. However that is not megaman at all. Pretty much done the same thing to religion, by selling crucifixions, and statues. I do not want to idolize megaman, or wear little Megaman buttons on my shirt. I want to play Megaman dammit.
Like right now, they made a comic. However that is not Megaman, and is just something fun to read. Then if they made a movie, again not megaman, but fun to see. Same with an megaman drink. Not megaman, but fun to drink. This means a person could be selling Megaman drinks for eternity, and not one Megaman game will ever be made again.
Doremon ( if you know him ), is doing this right now. The original comics, are long gone, and all is left is the revision of the animation, and a bunch of merchandise, that is mostly seen being sold in China. Speaking of Chinese, the first fictional character you will see from China is Mickey mouse.
So many people over their grewed up with Mickey, and is the longest running, and respected ficitional character being sold, to all kinds of people. Heck even I have a Mickey Merchandise, everyone does. However the original cartoons, since Steam Boat Willy, to the ABC family hours, are all gone now. Their hasn't been any new Mickey invention.
Here is a question? Is Shenmue = Mickey = Megaman ??? Do you feel comfortable with Shenmue = Mickey = Megaman? ??? Is that an good thing?
When we as humans, purchase these things, do we think about the backstabbing corporations. Better yet the people who are inside, that are working against the fictional material we love and hold dear to us, as if it was religious texts. Imagine all the monsters who made money, doing work, related to Pokemon. A ( ficitonal media ) videogame, and now ( franchise ), dolls, books, toys, etc. Imagine what they really think about the people who actually care about the material itself.
In my opinion, video game makers, needs to avoid using corporate words, and respect their products. I remember when we had Bart Simpson, and Sonic Hedgehog floats on tv, during Thanksgiving. I really love those things, because I love the fictional stories, and creative elements of those things. If a parent was to even hear those corporate words, being used at that point in time. I am doubtfully they would have even allowed their children ( us ) to purchase those products.
Do not bring the boardroom, to the public.
TO MAKE THINGS WORST, JUST TO MAKE THINGS WORST.
Because we have erected invisible barriers of globalism. When you do something, like Shenmue, everybody around you is against you. SEGA is in Japan, and it has one group of people, and everybody is everybodies business. The same could be said about the related nations near it.
However for videogames this openess works, without realizing the damage we support.
That was the plan at one stage in 1998 , but when SEGA Japan came out and said Shenmue would now be chapter based game, their stock price got smashed to bits . So that plan was dropped
Regarding stocks, I'm not sure their stock has ever been that high, I remember looking at it back around 2003 and they were around the $5 mark, and today they still are. Where is your source on the stock price plummeting? If it really did, I doubt Shenmue was the sole wrecking ball.
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https://twitter.com/giargiagames/status/482492528697294848/photo/1
H8rs are BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
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For real apparently Yu Suzuki himself said 'It's a little joke I made last night'. Yu Suzuki confirmed for God of Trolling 2014.
1. Shenmue is not a franchise, it is a series, a story, saga, etc. That is a corperate word.
2. Franchise means to say, how we use it. Meaning we make toys, toothpaste, glow pens, vibrators, candy.....Bomb-omb candy anyone? How about an EggoStraberry Salad with Matic magic matinee.
3. It does not matter how vast Shenmue 3 is, this is not 2000, or whenever it was released. That was back then, I would just like to see an high-profile usage of the game itself, without the coloring.
4. Speaking of coloring, Ryu to everybody else coloring is wrong. Just because he is East Asian, doesn't mean he will be the most yellowist thing. This is my response for the mock up, of the game.
Everybody needs more coloring.......more 1980's or 1990's coloring, not the coloring of bland photogenic shit r-tard coloring. I am not buying this Shenmue if Ryu is not in the correct timeline and he looks like he went to a detanning place. One thing I love about the original Shenmue was the vivid colors.
5. I am not a fool for this anymore. I like Shenmue and all, but they better learn their lesson from RE5 and RE6. Where they kinds killed off the point of playing the RE games after six. I hope they do not do anything stupid like morph the characters. Make it impossible to look at or play.
^You even quoted the part where I told you that Yu Suzuki said 'It's all a joke I made up last night for fun'.
The symbol means nothing, there is no Shampoo III.
I think 3raser was going along with your joke out of sarcasm. As if to say, "Yeah. That's totally real. NOT!" If Shemnue III (not Shampoo III) was released, then it would most likely be announced closer to before E3. Not right after E3. I think there is still a chance that Yu Suzuki could make the game on the current generation of consoles. After all, the main consoles came out last year. Why would he not make it? Would it not cost the same as some other poorly developed Sega game? No. Because we all want it to be better than anything Sega has ever done as a third-party company. Yeah. That was my sarcasm. Shenmue III is the worst Sega fan idea. If it were true, then Sega would have released a Dreamcast II already (about ten years ago). Even if Shenmue III was created, who would remember it or care enough to buy it? This is for bashing my Sports thread so much, 3raser.For bashing your sports thread? No. I was not saying that anyone would stop posting after the World Cup. I was just saying that no one cared about tennis. You can talk about tennis if you want. I just think that a tennis thread would be ignored more quickly. You started the sports thread at a bad time. There was already a World Cup thread. That's what people actually cared about at the time you posted it.
#1? #2
What about Shenmue the luchbox? Shenmue the tshirt? Shenmue the doll? Do those not sound like part of a franchise? Maybe they should make Shenmue the toothpaste.
You were saying that you wanted a new console before a new Shenmue, correct? Not possible. It never will happen. Sega can not afford it. They can't even afford to make good games anymore. I support Sega for the games they used to make. The games before they decided to be a third party company. Do I think it would be nice to see a Shenmue III from Sega? Yes. I would play it. Do I think it is a good idea for Sega? Yes and no. Mostly no because they need both more money and better approval from Mr. Suzuki.
Technically Sega can afford to create a games console. They never stopped creating hardware, that's a western misconception. They just being used for the arcade market and the sega toys market. But in this climate its unwise to create a games system for homes. And SHENMUE is stopped because of game politics not that they can't afford to make it but the concern over costs and returns of that investment.And no Sega doesn't need Suzuki's approval to carry on with the title. They didn't ask him to use Ryo for SONIC AND SEGA ALL STARS RACING.It was AM2's call. And they ultimately do what the management wants.Proof?
I wanted proof of the latter. Yu Suzuki writes the stories of Shenmue, so Sega owns it? If they do, then what's the problem with making the game? I guess they just can't afford it. Oh wait! That's right! You basically said they were the richest company in the world. I suppose now we can expect a new console, a new Sonic Adventure game, and a new Shenmue game. That's what ALL, I repeat, ALL of the Sega fans want.
I wanted proof of the latter. Yu Suzuki writes the stories of Shenmue, so Sega owns it? If they do, then what's the problem with making the game? I guess they just can't afford it. Oh wait! That's right! You basically said they were the richest company in the world. I suppose now we can expect a new console, a new Sonic Adventure game, and a new Shenmue game. That's what ALL, I repeat, ALL of the Sega fans want.
I wanted proof of the latter. Yu Suzuki writes the stories of Shenmue, so Sega owns it? If they do, then what's the problem with making the game? I guess they just can't afford it. Oh wait! That's right! You basically said they were the richest company in the world. I suppose now we can expect a new console, a new Sonic Adventure game, and a new Shenmue game. That's what ALL, I repeat, ALL of the Sega fans want.
Well, Shenmue is Sega's Trademark. We'll start with that very basic and easy fact. They own the rights because they paid for the game. Yu Suzuki doesn't own Shenmue any more than Ridley Scott owns Alien.
Actually, here's a fun article from 2012 from Eurogamer. In it, Suzuki discusses how he might go about getting the rights to Shenmue from Sega for his YSNet studio. That took ten seconds on google.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-01-04-suzuki-we-can-obtain-shenmue-license-from-sega (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-01-04-suzuki-we-can-obtain-shenmue-license-from-sega)
The problem with making the game, Spock, is that they're a company whose job it is to make money for themselves and their stockholders. Shenmue did not make money on the Dreamcast. It most certainly will not make money now. It would be stupid to make the game, to make a new Dreamcast, to make a Skies of Arcadia, to make a new Jet Set Radio and so on. They've toyed around with all those ideas before (except a new console - that's never been on the table, to my knowledge), and the money just isn't there to be made.
Outside a very vocal group of people, no one gives a shit. A new Shenmue would be trashed in the press and would bomb. Hard. And people would be mad at Sega for "ruining" the franchise.
That's all there is to it.
Incidentally, your sarcasm doesn't become you.
Exactly. Well done JB for putting him straight. We seem to have a charge of "know it all zealots" led by TA lately who is intent of derailing the thread and insisting they want this evidence and that..gimme a break.
Excuse me ? You're the one giving people false hope about Shenmue III and Yu Suzuki 3 other SEGA games. I've been saying for years there's next to no hope for Shenmue III how little of the game was even done on the DC and how Yu Suzuki was semi retired at SEGA (way back in the Nerds days) - Claims which you've rubbished .
Again like the 32X and the Saturn- You're the one changing tune , yet again
Not really since i was talkinga bout it at the period when it was a possibility.
Its a possibilty now . The simple facts are and it hasn't change at all for years ago. Is is an IP that didn't sell well , lost money and where the 3rd game would be a massive risk and undertaking .
Now the only one that's changed their tune over Shenmue III over the years is you .
That hasn't changed.It exists in one form
Yeah the script and in document form . Game: very little of game was ever done
That's where we differ. But then you said the game was never announced period.
No . I said little of the game was ever done and one can look at these pages and use waybackwhen.com to see my posts in the old SEGA nerds days . Everyone will know back then what you said when I dare to make out Yu Suzuki was semi retired at SEGA too .
Spock, stop wasting everyone's time. Start educating yourself on game properties and how it works and the legalities involved. Stop living in this wishy washy world where things can be done by the click of your hands. We in this forum has had this discussion on SHENMUE for countless times to go before you came and more likely will have it after you leave. To most of us were re trending old ground here. The situation isn't going to change just because you can't accept the realities of who owns SHENMUE, The politics involved in making SHENMUE and everything else.No. Actually, I have been following this topic ever since it started. That was far before I joined this website. I have the right to post in this thread if I want to. Just as much as you. Why do you have a problem with me posting in it? Is it because my opinion is different than yours? I'm not trying to stir anything. I am simply trying to be realistic.
No. Actually, I have been following this topic ever since it started. That was far before I joined this website. I have the right to post in this thread if I want to. Just as much as you. Why do you have a problem with me posting in it? Is it because my opinion is different than yours? I'm not trying to stir anything. I am simply trying to be realistic.
I never said you didn't have a right. But do some research on the subject before commenting on it or accusing other members that they have no idea on what they are talkng about. SHENMUE has been done to death in this forum for one thing. You aren't saying anything that others didn't say before and again the fact you think Suzuki owns SHENMUE and sega needs his permission to make it is a bit silly. Which is why i doubt you have been here before since then or you would have known that before coming here.Even if Shenmue III was made, you would not want it. The second game was made twelve years ago. That's as if someone made Spider-Man 4 with Toby Maguire next year. I mean Shenmue was made for a mobile phone game. There would also be way too much competition from Sleeping Dogs to make the game. It would be like how the Dreamcast could not compete with the PS2 all over again. This would mean by far that Sega would not have enough people buying it. Sega does not make too many games centered towards adults (except for the low budget Alien series that hardly anyone likes). Sega is now a children based company. Shenmue III would be ruined if they made it. Sorry to crush your dreams. That's just how it is.
The Alien games aren't low budget.Alien: Isolation had glitches galore, unbalanced gameplay, terrible A.I. and low quality graphics in the single-player game as well as a crude and poorly implemented multiplayer selection. It also didn't even work half the time. If Sega was unable to produce a better game, then that means either they were too lazy to work and make it better or they could not afford to program it. Therefore, it is a low budget series. That's not really the main point I am trying to make though. This is about Shenmue III and how it will never happen.
Even if Shenmue III was made, you would not want it. The second game was made twelve years ago. That's as if someone made Spider-Man 4 with Toby Maguire next year. I mean Shenmue was made for a mobile phone game. There would also be way too much competition from Sleeping Dogs to make the game. It would be like how the Dreamcast could not compete with the PS2 all over again. This would mean by far that Sega would not have enough people buying it. Sega does not make too many games centered towards adults (except for the low budget Alien series that hardly anyone likes). Sega is now a children based company. Shenmue III would be ruined if they made it. Sorry to crush your dreams. That's just how it is.
Alien: Isolation had glitches galore, unbalanced gameplay, terrible A.I. and low quality graphics in the single-player game as well as a crude and poorly implemented multiplayer selection. It also didn't even work half the time. If Sega was unable to produce a better game, then that means either they were too lazy to work and make it better or they could not afford to program it. Therefore, it is a low budget series. That's not really the main point I am trying to make though. This is about Shenmue III and how it will never happen.Or the fact that GBX ripped off Sega and spent their money on Borderlands 2 and Duke Nukem..which is what most likely happened...
Alien: Isolation had glitches galore, unbalanced gameplay, terrible A.I. and low quality graphics in the single-player game as well as a crude and poorly implemented multiplayer selection. It also didn't even work half the time. If Sega was unable to produce a better game, then that means either they were too lazy to work and make it better or they could not afford to program it. Therefore, it is a low budget series. That's not really the main point I am trying to make though. This is about Shenmue III and how it will never happen.
I'm not really sure you know what you're on about. No one thinks Shenmue will happen. What Joe and I are telling you is just that Sega literally has the money to make it happen; they won't because it won't break even and they aren't interested in making a loss.
Spock, I think you meant Colonial Marines. Isolation ain't out yet.
So this HD fan remake. How long before it is taken down by Srs-Sega?
More likely they will end up hiring the guy to help them create their official HD remakes of SHENMUE like they did with the Sonic HD games..if his HD is well received and looks good..An HD version is already in the process of being made. This is NOT a Shenmue III. It is simply a remake of the first game with slightly better graphics.
An HD version is already in the process of being made. This is NOT a Shenmue III. It is simply a remake of the first game with slightly better graphics.
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2014/08/18/fan-making-shenmue-hd-remastered/ (http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2014/08/18/fan-making-shenmue-hd-remastered/)
They can do this. As long as no one makes an entirely different Shenmue game, I think the Shenmue franchise will never be ruined.
I or anybody else never said it was SHENMUE 3. Learn to read for goodness sake.... ::)I knew you would assume it was a Shenmue III because I did not think you would be able to read the link I posted. That is why I posted "NOT SHENMUE III."
I knew you would assume it was a Shenmue III because I did not think you would be able to read the link I posted. That is why I posted "NOT SHENMUE III."
Sega could just give him a small team and let them remake the whole thing.. Would be a low investment, and an interesting market probe for Shenmue.Wait... I just realized you said it would be a low investment. Isn't the idea to have a higher investment, so that Sega could make more money? I think that Shenmue is a terrible franchise to revive for multiple reasons that I have previously discussed. I mean, no one - other than the people who post stuff on these forums - hardly even remembers Shenmue games. Dreamcast, sure. I mean, people thought the Dreamcast was a great competitor for the PS2, until Sony announced that it was compatible with high speed internet access and was equipped with better graphics. It even had a DVD player. The Dreamcast may have had a CD player. It just had too many issued, such as actually screwing up the system entirely. On top of that, PS2 had a faster load and save time. People easily went with the PS2, so they can't hardly remember too many games on Dreamcast. Especially not a lame game like Shenmue or the awful sequel it had. The first game was two star at best. I can't even give a half star for the second game. A third game would just be rediculous. Can you name a 3 to any film of video game series that turned out good? I can not think of one at all.
until Sony announced that it was compatible with high speed internet access and was equipped with better graphics.
A third game would just be rediculous. Can you name a 3 to any film of video game series that turned out good? I can not think of one at all.
On top of that, PS2 had a faster load and save time.
Especially not a lame game like Shenmue or the awful sequel it had. The first game was two star at best. I can't even give a half star for the second game.
Wait... I just realized you said it would be a low investment. Isn't the idea to have a higher investment, so that Sega could make more money? I think that Shenmue is a terrible franchise to revive for multiple reasons that I have previously discussed. I mean, no one - other than the people who post stuff on these forums - hardly even remembers Shenmue games. Dreamcast, sure. I mean, people thought the Dreamcast was a great competitor for the PS2, until Sony announced that it was compatible with high speed internet access and was equipped with better graphics. It even had a DVD player. The Dreamcast may have had a CD player. It just had too many issued, such as actually screwing up the system entirely. On top of that, PS2 had a faster load and save time. People easily went with the PS2, so they can't hardly remember too many games on Dreamcast. Especially not a lame game like Shenmue or the awful sequel it had. The first game was two star at best. I can't even give a half star for the second game. A third game would just be rediculous. Can you name a 3 to any film of video game series that turned out good? I can not think of one at all.
Spock, I feel like you just said the PS2 was superior to the DC and Shenmue sucks.
Did I miss something? Are you insane?
I agree with you TruthEnigma, that is what I have been trying to explain. Yu Suzuki would have to be a part of it and an hd release first would be the best idea if Sega does decide to make the game for some strange reason. I'm not saying Sega will not make the game. I'm just saying it would be a bad idea, unless they make the game superior to the first and far more superior to the second. ROJM, do you not have anything better to do than just try and complain about what everyone posts?
Good third films in a series are unusual, but not unheard of. Die Hard With a Vengeance, while not being of the standard of the original (which may be the best action movie ever made), is far better then Die Hard 2. Also you could mention Goldfinger, Army of Darkness, Return of the Jedi and others.
You are correct that most of the gaming public does not know of Shenmue, so you would need to do a HD re-release of the first 2 on Xbox1, PS4 and PC to establish it in the minds of the general gaming public as the landmark series it is. Also I would say the only way to do Shenmue 3 would be to bring back Yu Suzuki.
The PS2 had 1 seriously major advantage over the Dreamcast. DVD. Millions of people got it because it was half the price of other DVD players. For quite a long time, the number of games sold per system was very low. That eventually chaged, because if you have the machine, you may as well get some sports and party titles.
Do you have anything better to do than make silly remarks and contradict yourself in your own posts?Ah. So basically if someone else said the exact same thing I have been trying to say, they have a well thought out idea. If I say something, then I don't know what I'm talking about. Ok.
Yu Suzuki doesn't have to be a part of any SHENMUE game...he wasn't even an active part of any of the recent VIRTUA FIGHTER games which he created. So i really don't know why you continue to ignore that fact and basically troll this topic on nonsense in a subject you clearly know nothing about.
Ah. So basically if someone else said the exact same thing I have been trying to say, they have a well thought out idea. If I say something, then I don't know what I'm talking about. Ok.
No i would debate about it..in a more well presented manner as they presented their views. Simple really.Thanks for trying your best to stir controversy. I have nothing more to say to your ignorant views of my opinion.
Thanks for trying your best to stir controversy. I have nothing more to say to your ignorant views of my opinion.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-03-20-yu-suzuki-is-looking-into-kickstarterPublished 20/03/2014
This is actual news.
or that Shenmue is all about seeking revenge
Tbh that is all the game is about . Shenmue story is just your classic Hong Kong movie revenge saga from years back . Shenmue is just so good becasue its made by Yu Suzuki that's what really makes the game. Story and script wise Yakuza is so much better really
TA, Yu has said a few times already (once in an interview with Kenji from Shenmue Master, and again in the postmortem), that Ryo will lose the will to revenge. You can see that even in the first game, although only slightly. The first conversation you have in the game that isn't a cutscene is with Fuku-san, where Ryo angrily says he is going to take revenge. By the end of Shenmue I, he is a bit more calmed and rational (not by much, admittedly), and by Shenmue II is over, he is further along that path. The fight with Lan Di in the future will come out of necessity, not revenge.This so, so much this. I think I went on a rant in one of the Swingin' Report Shows about this. There are a lot of lessions that Ryo learns in II that change his outlook on life. One of the main themes of the series is 'the cycle of revenge' and its deadly chain reaction. Ryo is a victim, but will killing Lan Di make him better than him? Wasn't he on the same quest as Ryo?
Shenmue is much more than a revenge story. The people that say it has a bad story, I feel don't understand the game they are playing.
Wasn't it a white leaf that was unusually fresh, hinting at some secret to immortality?
I'll be honest, I think a lot of Shenmue fans don't actually "get" Shenmue. I hear so many people say Sleeping Dogs is the next Shenmue, or that Shenmue is all about seeking revenge. Did we play the same game??
Yakuza is a little like Shenmue, but far from a replacement. Yakuza is its own glorious thing. Does Ryo hit on hot ladies and fight people in the streets? Of course not, he ignores Nozomi's advances and only fights people in the streets when Yu Suzuki allows him to.
TA, Yu has said a few times already (once in an interview with Kenji from Shenmue Master, and again in the postmortem), that Ryo will lose the will to revenge
TA, how do you know if its a revenge film? Have you played it
They killed my father right in front of me... I will have my revenge! I need to do this, for my father
Unlike you Geroge .. Yes I play the games
Cool story, bro.
Unlike you Geroge .. Yes I play the games
Looking over the intro to Shenmue . I'll just leave you with a simple quote from Ryo....
Now if that isn't a clinched revenge plot seen in counltess films
Its obvious you lost the argument the moment you started insulting me
I think we can agree that what we've seen so far contains a lot of pretty standard revenge tropes, but there is potential for the story to go in a different direction (considering we've got only, what a third of the overall story so far?)
To some I feel when one tries to make out that Shenmue Story is basic it's seen an insult to the game and that you're knocking it when I'm not . If Ryo was able to take down Lai Di in Shenmue's intro , there's no game . Shenmue basic story is about setting out to avenge his father's death really . Yakuza story is better and also its script is much much better, but for me Shenmue II is far better game than any of the Yakuza's .
But nice investigative reporting on my gaming habits
"I own" AC Unity. I said I played AC Unity. You do know there are other ways of playing games on PC instead of buying it.
1977's Star Wars, without any knowledge of the sequels, is a revenge story. Luke's father, uncle, aunt, and mentor were killed by Vader and the Empire. He joins the rebellion to avenge their deaths
Luke wants revenge although he doesn't fully understand why. In the end, Darth Vader himself teaches him a life changing lesson.
A boy wanted to kill his father. In the end, his father teaches him a life changing lesson that took our breath away.
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He stated before that he would be up to write a book or finish it other mediums, but I think after all the fanbase hitting social media and making it seem like there are trillions of them, he probably won't do it outside of a game now.
If rumors are correct (That the 3rd game was going to go in a really different direction with powers and such) will the old fanbase be happy at the changes? I mean, if it came out in 2003-4, they probably would have accepted it, shit if it came out in 2006 as well. But would they accept it now in 2015> ? The answer is probably not.
I think SEGA is in a bind on this franchise and its not like their making large amounts of money to spend on a vanity project (which Shenmue was) and they don't need to create games like these anymore due to not selling hardware.
Well, regarding the original fanbase's acceptance of "powers" or whatever you want to call it... anyone who is still interested in Shenmue has probably already done a lot of thinking about this. Obviously Lan Di isn't after the mirrors for their resale value as antiquities. And anyone who played through to the final scene of Shenmue II has no doubt about something unexplainable by everyday standards factoring into the future of the story...
But, to call Shenmue a vanity project only makes a kind of sense in retrospect. It was to be the killer RPG for the Dreamcast, and at that point everything Yu Suzuki touched turned to gold for Sega. It just seems that Shenmue's lack of success has been greatly exaggerated over the years - the untrue claim of a $70m budget has become industry legend. It was pretty much a perfect storm of bad circumstances surrounding the Dreamcast that derailed Shenmue, but unfortunately and very unfairly it seems that Yu Suzuki is the one who has taken the brunt of the blame in the long run. Without Yu Suzuki's contributions to Sega there wouldn't have been a series of Sega home consoles, IMO. The man deserves more chances.
the untrue claim of a $70m budget has become industry legend.
I really don't know if Yu Suzuki was pushed aside due to it, he says it didn't effect his relationship with SEGA, but if you look at his games after it came out, its like night and day compared to the last 20 years in the company
but I think overall it was a mistake changing it from a Virtua Fighter RPG to its own IP
In any case, moving forward, I think Yu Suzuki needs to come up with a scalable plan. Plan A is if he can secure his ideal budget, Plan B is how he'll make the game with a lesser budget, Plan C with an even lesser budget, etc. It seems like he's a "we don't have no Plan B" kind of guy. But the patient fans "love it when a plan comes together." Furthermore, we "ain't getting on no planes, fool!!!" But I digress.
You are right about one thing. I don't know what Yu Suzuki has planned. What I do know is that hardly anyone remembers Shenmue. I also know that Yu has many other different franchises to work on. Not to mention the fourteen years since the last game, like I stated in my previous comment. Have you ever seen a sequel to a sequel of a video game that took more than fourteen years before they decided to even START working on it? I mean, if there was actual news of Yu working on Shenmue III, then that would be much different. All I'm saying is that I will be very impressed if it is ever announced.
You are right about one thing. I don't know what Yu Suzuki has planned. What I do know is that hardly anyone remembers Shenmue. I also know that Yu has many other different franchises to work on. Not to mention the fourteen years since the last game, like I stated in my previous comment. Have you ever seen a sequel to a sequel of a video game that took more than fourteen years before they decided to even START working on it? I mean, if there was actual news of Yu working on Shenmue III, then that would be much different. All I'm saying is that I will be very impressed if it is ever announced.
Why do so many people want a third game, if the second one was bad?
No, you actually don't know if anyone remembers Shenmue or not. The fanbase could have dwindled down to two people or grown to five million. Fact of the matter is, nobody knows for sure. We can guess all we want, but at the end of the day there is no solid data.I have met a lot of people who don't even remember the Dreamcast. Shenmue II was not nearly as good as the first. Why are you so upset about me asking a simple question?
Fourteen years since the release, yes...ever heard of Dukem Nukem Forever? And what other franchises? He doesn't work at SEGA anymore, and can't just use anything that he wants from them. Sure, he did Virtua Fighter and Shenmue on mobile devices, but that is it. He is doing his own thing at YS Net.
They didn't wait fourteen years. It has been said before that development started with music, art, sculptures, etc...all of that is done. The story is done. Shenmue III was announced by SEGA back in 2001. Shin Ishikawa was quoted as saying "Look forward to more Shenmue games on Xbox". RPG Gamer published a story that the game was in development. Kikizo did as well.
I have no clue as to what you are even talking about here. Shenmue II? Nobody mentioned it being bad.
Shenmue II was not nearly as good as the first.(https://freedomboard.kirara.ca/comic/src/1407785014182.gif)
(https://freedomboard.kirara.ca/comic/src/1407785014182.gif)So you enjoyed that there was no way to get money by performing a task other than moving crates. It was wonderful for you to hear people try their hardest to voice the characters in English with a more retro style of technology. You must have also praised that the D pad didn't respond well to the double and triple taps to the left and right.
I have met a lot of people who don't even remember the Dreamcast. Shenmue II was not nearly as good as the first. Why are you so upset about me asking a simple question?
So you enjoyed that there was no way to get money by performing a task other than moving crates. It was wonderful for you to hear people try their hardest to voice the characters in English with a more retro style of technology. You must have also praised that the D pad didn't respond well to the double and triple taps to the left and right.Is an optional thing really a reason you should name for like the 1st game better? Dont get me wrong i really love the 1st game. Still think there's something about it which the 2nd game lacks. But thinking about it its really just the setting. Though man, the 2nd game is something else.
That whole sequence from being handcuffed to the rooftop battle is one of the best video game moments ever. It's just such a fun and solid sequence!
Is an optional thing really a reason you should name for like the 1st game better? Dont get me wrong i really love the 1st game. Still think there's something about it which the 2nd game lacks. But thinking about it its really just the setting. Though man, the 2nd game is something else.Well, I played the second game on Xbox. Not Dreamcast. I guess I should have tried it on Dreamcast before I complained about the controls. As far as the gameplay itself, I still prefer the original Shenmue. A third entry for any series is almost always the worst of them all. It was a much different era fifteen years ago. Times have changed and there are too many other great game franchises for Sega to work on right now. I think someone on this thread mentioned before that there are too many other games like Shenmue already.
The other stuff about taps is something i didnt have an issue with. The game doesnt require a lot of skill in the fighting department so i think itd be much worse in that case. I would hope in a next installment the fighting would be a lot more refined overall.
If they're more games out there like Shenmue, can someone point me to them? I can't see any personally. Sleeping Dogs, GTA and Yakuza are definitely not the same if those are the ones people are talking about.The Uncharted series is similar. I admit there is not a Japanese theme. As far as the gameplay, it is very similar though. Also Divekick, Karateka, and Kengo: Legend of the 9. They are all very similar. Definately not a good time for Shenmue III. Of course, I don't think there ever was a good time for it. Shenmue was exclusive to Dreamcast. Why would Sega want to release the same series more than fiveteen years later, if the last game in the series was on their own system?
As stated earlier in this thread, I think if they were to carry on with the series, they'd need a reboot. Simply remastering or releasing Shenmue 1 and 2 in it's outdated state now would be a flop I suspect. That may sound expensive, but it really wouldn't be with technology now. Back then, they had to hard code all the things that come built in with most engines now.
The Uncharted series is similar. I admit there is not a Japanese theme. As far as the gameplay, it is very similar though. Also Divekick, Karateka, and Kengo: Legend of the 9. They are all very similar. Definately not a good time for Shenmue III. Of course, I don't think there ever was a good time for it. Shenmue was exclusive to Dreamcast. Why would Sega want to release the same series more than fiveteen years later, if the last game in the series was on their own system?
The Uncharted series is similar. I admit there is not a Japanese theme. As far as the gameplay, it is very similar though. Also Divekick, Karateka, and Kengo: Legend of the 9. They are all very similar.
I was not saying those games were almost identical. I was just saying that those games would be too similar for another game to compete with.Can you please explain how they are similar?
Dated is probably the wrong word. I should have said to refine things.As far as loading goes, I think the new consoles would definately get rid of most of the loading. The voices would need new actors, unless they use the same audio from the originals. Perhaps if Sega started making other things for the franchise too (like playing cards, etc), then that would help revive the series also.
Time skip in S1
tweak the controls so you don't need to hold a button down to run
Rewrite some of the script to not sound so wonky in the English translation
Get rid of that awful song when Ryo and Nazomi are on the bike
Lose some of the stiffness to the camera and Ryo's animation
No loading screens perhaps?
Improved lighting and some of the more minor textures.
I'm not sure exactly, but if a studio did remake Shenmue, they'd probably prefer to start from nothing but the design documents and character sheets etc. Messing around with the originals can be more tricky then it's worth.
And why is it a bad idea for Shenmue III, Spock? Evidence?Because within the past five years, Sega only releases crap.
Because within the past five years, Sega only releases crap.
Because within the past five years, Sega only releases crap.
Because within the past five years, Sega only releases crap.
I'm not saying I lost hope in Sega. I'm sure they could release great games in the future. Most of the games (not all) that have been released in the past five years have been remakes of other games or games that are generally based towards children. Making an hd release for Shenmue II has already been done. Making one for the original would be odd because Sega should have done that before making the second game, if that is their plan. As far as making a third game, it would require a lot of money, a very large team, and Yu Suzuki would also need the "ok" from Sega. Does anyone else not think this is a bad idea? Why would Sega want a game series that they created specifically for their own consoles to be released on another companies console? It just wouldn't make sense. Especially after 15 years.
Also, Suzuki has already said that SEGA is not the problem, it is the money. And he may not need the 300 member team that he used before, since a lot of the concepts Shenmue pioneered have been explored in other games.
If you watch Yu Suzuki's post mortem on Shenmue, it's pretty clear it wouldn't cost anywhere near as much as it did too. Most of the tools that are freely available now had to be built from scratch back then. Things like a night and day cycle was difficult, now though, unity can do that with ease.
Erm, you should probably take a look at some of the games coming out right now to see you don't need millions or a huge team. The book of unwritten Tales, dreamfall chapters, Broken Sword, Sherlock Holmes, the raven etc are all fine examples of games that didn't have huge teams or financial backing to create.
No, it wouldn't, but I don't think it would be anywhere near the numbers flying around for the originals and Yu Suzuki has said he can complete it in 3 games.
^My point exactly.^
I like Shenmue & Shenmue II. They should be titles that don't have a sequel to them. Sure, the script is already written, but wouldn't it be a lot cheaper if it was turned into a book instead? Also, if the game was released, then why would you care what engine it was on anyway? You would just want to play it, right? I know that if it was released, I wouldn't play it because the idea would be too ridiculous. Of course, that's just my opinion. There would be maybe twenty who would play it, if that many.
With the Toejam and Earl kickstarter making 500k, Shenmue fans are saying "Imagine what Shenmue could get" on a similar campaign.
Not to be Debbie Downer but, I feel that TJ&E are far more popular than Shenmue. I don't really know how much Shenmue would make on kickstarter, but my outlook isn't positive.
that is a good point, Shenmue fans may not be as numerous as they (or we) think but I could totally see people plunking down thousands towards it. I'd probably give $500-$1k, depending on the rewards.Even so, I doubt a handful of crazies could get the same as a deluge of small donations.
I found this:
http://www.pushsquare.com/tags/Shenmue
This is great news. I think that means we will definately have a Shenmue III eventually. Even if it happens in the year 2030!
Not to mention some of the stuff that it pioneered is now taken for granted. Cycling day/night weather, more cinematic story, qtes
Even just being fully voice acted blew my mind
Did Popful Mail and Magic Knight Rayearth have 300-600 characters, though?
Though unlike Zelda, Shenmue used weather that was accurate to the real dates. Was that ever done before
600 ? . I don't think any single Shenmue game had that either . I'm just pointing out that in the Japanese version of Magic Knight Rayearth every character inthe game had a speaking part and spoke and it was one of the 1st games to do that and was quite amazing at the time even if it was in Japaese.
Though unlike Zelda, Shenmue used weather that was accurate to the real dates. Was that ever done before?I believe there was also the option to turn that on or off right? So you could have randomized or 'story matching' weather or something?
Did anyone else see the Shenmue Minecraft creation video? I was thinking, if they could make that with just one person, then why can't they make the new game with 3,000 people? Sure, it would cost money. Every other game does though. Shenmue III could be very profitable, if Sega makes the game right.Minecraft is babby. Shenmue is not babby.
I don't care how rare or underrated a new Shenmue game would be. I WILL play it if it's released. I would even pay $1,000 for it.
SEGA isn't going to make or fund a Shenmue III and IV . People should just get over it now sadly
SEGA isn't going to make or fund a Shenmue III and IV . People should just get over it now sadly
I wouldn't be so sure. Maybe SEGA won't...I hope it comes out on the CreamCast.
If it miraculously did get a release date, I don't see how they could make the game. I mean, what engine would it use?Whichever one they wanted?
If it miraculously did get a release date, I don't see how they could make the game. I mean, what engine would it use?
Sega made a large profit from Shenmue. If they didn't, why would they have made Shenmue II? I
Why do you think Sega would have to make Shenmue IV?
SEGA made no money from Shenmue project that why it was canned and SEGA don't want to go anywhere near it .
There's 10 chapters left to be told and it took SEGA some 7 years and 2 games to tell just 4 chapters that's why ...
In that case, Sega could make 3 & 4 on handheld consoles. I was once skeptic of another Shenmue title, until I thought of this. There are hardly any good games on PS Vita as far as this year so far, so I'm sure Shenmue 3 & 4 would sell like hot cakes.
Hummm SEGA said they would need to sell Shenmue 1 twice to every single Dreamcast owner to turn profit. Let's say at the time it was a conservative 5 million units out, that would mean 10 million sold. I think they did 2 because AM2 worked on both at the same time, if you see Saturn development, they also show footage of 2.
From my understanding, they saw the loss on the first game as an investment, since this was meant to be their 'Annual series' or at least their next killer IP
In that case, Sega could make 3 & 4 on handheld consoles. I was once skeptic of another Shenmue title, until I thought of this. There are hardly any good games on PS Vita as far as this year so far, so I'm sure Shenmue 3 & 4 would sell like hot cakes.
There's 10 chapters left to be told and it took SEGA some 7 years and 2 games to tell just 4 chapters that's why ...
It didn't take seven years between the two games. The Dreamcast lasted in North America for only two and a half years.
He even said multiple times that he is considering a new Shenmue creation
I still have a interview with Yu Suzuki and he said Shenmue (the 1st game) needed to sell over a million copies to pay for its budget of $25 million dollars (JP version alone)
I'd be interested in seeing that interview.
Do you have a copy of it, digital, or hard?
Would it not be Shenmue 6? Then 5? Then 4? I know he only wrote 4. I just thought since Star Wars went 4,5,6,1,2,3, and now 7, it would be mixed up like that. Who was it that suggested Shenmue III and Shenmue IV to be released on handheld consoles only again? That's not really a bad idea.I posted that. I still don't see it being extremely likely, unless perhaps someone like Sony bought Sega.
Sony buying Sega? I haven't seen a topic like that in two years. I used to be on forums.sega.com
I think that one said something about either Nintendo, Sony, or Toshiba buying Sega. I just don't see why any company would buy Sega. Not unless it's EA games. They swallow every bankrupt third party company. Having said that, I doubt EA would care about Shenmue. Their main focus would be more terrible Sonic games. As far as Shenmue, the only way I see it happening is either through handheld consoles or if Yu Suzuki secretly has enough money and a large team to construct it even if Sega didn't help him.
It's happening!!!...WHAT IS THIS
http://www.gamepur.com/news/18890-square-enix-and-sega-releasing-shenmue-i-ii-remastered-shenmue-iii-ps4-and.html
http://gamestalk.net/shenmue/
...Maybe.
A photo of a blurry teaser image taken at an angle? Clearly this is the most true and legit sign of Shenmue stuff yet.Why would anyone lie on tue internet
Here's my issue with the image. That isn't from some panel presentation, that is from a computer monitor. Notice how one shot is from below, but then one is magically from above. If this was some panel, did the photographer magically float to the ceiling and snap a photo? And if it is on a computer screen... save out the original image. There is no reason to take photos of a computer like that. Also, SEGA and Square? lol
Oh, and PS4 and Steam but no Xbox feels like a fanboy picking their preferred platforms for this fake leak.
This isn't going to happen, I do know that SEGA has been trying to get a Shenmue HD port off its feet for awhile but the issue isn't going to be solved with Squeer co-publishing it.
I'd have to disagree. The fact that Sony and SE are involved is the only thing to me that lends credence to the image.I agree with all of this.
Also, SE has a better RPG publishing track record (sales, not quality) than SEGA. It would be a smart move to co-publish a risky Japanese title like Shenmue with them.
Also, SE has a conference for E3 this year. This would easily be a huge hype machine for them. Can't think of any legacy game that would get more hype from than a remaster of Shenmue.
If this is all a hoax, this is the best one I've seen yet as far as timing and implications.
The person who made the fake responded to sites reporting on his obvious fake: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=164556603&postcount=5137
The person who made the fake responded to sites reporting on his obvious fake: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=164556603&postcount=5137What if THIS GIF is fake, and it's all a ruse to make us believe Shenmue isn't coming at all when it is?
Sega purposely leaked a fake photo to get our guard down, so at E3 they will reveal their new console, the Sega Renegade. It'll have Shenmue III as a launch title as well as Sonic Adventure 3 and Virtua Fighter vs Valiant Comics: New Generation of Heroes.A man can dream
Actually, to be fair, a new Shenmue game now would probably cost about as much as a Yakuza game. Problem is that SEGA knows Yakuza games sell enough for them to make their money back, while for a new Shenmue game this isn't certain. Especially seeing how long it's been since the last Shenmue game.
^ This is very true, also the game didn't sell much because it was extremely advance for it's time.
Sega purposely leaked a fake photo to get our guard down, so at E3 they will reveal their new console, the Sega Renegade. It'll have Shenmue III as a launch title as well as Sonic Adventure 3 and Virtua Fighter vs Valiant Comics: New Generation of Heroes.
Did you play Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing Transformed?No. I'm just not into racing games. I don't like the new Sonic related games either. Sonic is cool. I just haven't liked new releases ever since Sonic '06 and Sonic Unleashed.
The game was also on Xbox and sold horribly. All I'm going to say if it couldn't outsell Sonic Adventure and Crazy Taxi arcade port; even with the HUGE marketing budget it had for the first game, chances are bringing it back isn't going to do half that number.Most of the population in the U.S. have never heard of Shenmue. I know a lot of Sega fans out there that have. Just not people who have more important things to do than study old video game franchises. I'm not sure how much money a new Shenmue game (or two Shenmue games) would make. I don't think Sega would lose money though. What's wrong with Handheld only games after Shenmue one and two get new HD releases on consoles? At least Sega would know if new games would make a lot of money by releasing cheaper versions on handhelds, right?
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No. I'm just not into racing games. I don't like the new Sonic related games either. Sonic is cool. I just haven't liked new releases ever since Sonic '06 and Sonic Unleashed. Most of the population in the U.S. have never heard of Shenmue. I know a lot of Sega fans out there that have. Just not people who have more important things to do than study old video game franchises. I'm not sure how much money a new Shenmue game (or two Shenmue games) would make. I don't think Sega would lose money though. What's wrong with Handheld only games after Shenmue one and two get new HD releases on consoles? At least Sega would know if new games would make a lot of money by releasing cheaper versions on handhelds, right?That is a great game, I'm a bit surprised meeting a SEGA fan that doesn't like racing games, you are missing out on some gems there. SEGA did racing games really well .
It didn't sell much because it was on the Dreamcast. And even that isn't entirely true, it's one of the best selling Dreamcast games.
SEGA has been trying to get a HD port off the ground and are being hindered due to legalities with some companies over middleware usage or something.
If they didn't want Shenmue III hope they wouldn't allow all these companies to make official clothing, records and have him in other games like All-Stars Racing
When has SEGA focused on their franchises before? I dunno what company you followed, but SEGA has always made sequels sparingly. Was it good business? I don't know.
I mean't that SEGA isn't NOT making Shenmue I and II HD ports because they think people will ask for Shenmue III
Well, Sega hasn't really been focusing on too many of its good franchises lately.
This is back in 1999 its Hard . I still have my Total control mags and all that stored away up the garage . One day I'll pull them out and scan it. I may try and scan the Offical DC mag interview where Kat's Saito also confirmed the $70 Million price tag for Shenmue production
I'd be interested in seeing that. YS originally said it cost $70 million, and then clarified a few years ago at TGS that it was actually $45 million.
How many sequels to master system games did the Genesis have
It wasn't just Yu who said it cost $70 Million dollars but also staff inside SEGA. Yu was just desprate to get the sequel made and I bet the $45 million was what it cost AM#2 to developed the 2 Shenmue games for the DC and it excludes the PR push with cost SEGA millions alone.
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I know you're really convinced of that $70 million figure but there's no way that Sega spent $25 million on marketing
AAA games today might have a marketing budget of $10 million
Personally I take Suzuki's word of a $45 million budget, spoken in retrospect with an eye toward convincing present day publishers t
You want it personally from Yu ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmXVco0Bkyk
Ultimately, TA, what you have to understand is that no one takes you as seriously as you take yourself
Halo 3 famously had a marketing budget of $10 million in 2007 dollars
But more than that, I think the underlying point is that you're not changing my mind and I'm not changing yours.
You seem to have some amount of self esteem tied up in the idea of being regarded as a "Sega expert"
COD II MW have a massive $200 budget for its PR if the hype is true .
Two hundred dollars isn't really that much compared to industry average.Eh, worth a chuckle
It wasn't just Yu who said it cost $70 Million dollars but also staff inside SEGA. Yu was just desprate to get the sequel made and I bet the $45 million was what it cost AM#2 to developed the 2 Shenmue games for the DC and it excludes the PR push with cost SEGA millions alone.I think you misunderstood everything I said, every generation of consoles SEGA drops and makes new IPs. That was my point, not that they made sequels within the generation. Is it that hard to understand?
No many seeing as the MS was a bit of a flop in Japan and the USA. Mega Drive and Saturn days were a bit different and to a point the DC days too..
For the Mega Drive we had sequesl to SOR, VectorMan, Shinning series, Sonic, PS, Toe Jam & Earl, Joe Montana, Mickey Mouse series, Shinobi series, Wonderboy series, Golden Axe series, Super Monaco, Ecco Series and so on . On the Saturn were had sequels to the Shinning series, Story Of Thor, World Wide Soccer, NHL, World Series Basball, Sakura Wars, Panzer Dragoon, VF, VC, Dragon Force, Bug, Decatlete and so on . On the saturn well again we had sequels to Sonic, Sakura Wars, Space Channel 5, Lets Make a Series, Get Bass Series, Shenmue , Virtual Fighter, Fighting Vipers, Die Hard Arcade, House of the Dead, Virtual On, Virtual Tennis , NBA 2k, NFL 2k, Crazy Taxi , Sega Rally [size=78%] [/size]
Streets of Rage happen like 4 generations ago, why bring it back?
Bringing back and IP doesn't have to mean making it play with the limitations of a 1980's arcade machine though. It also doesn't mean you have to make it into Street Wise.
You could make a really fun brawler from the SoR IP.
The issue is though, that people are clamouring for old Sega IPs because what else do we have?
They don't make new IPs anymore, and when they do they mothball them (Valk becomes a portable exclusive and not as good as the first, Bayonetta becomes persona non grata and Nintendo has to save the sequel, Jack Lumber 2 will never happen at this rate, Yakuza never gets translated unless Sony foots the bill etc).
And they aren't beyond bringing back old IPs in fun ways, OutRun and Afterburner for example.
Either way, there's more money in endless Total War games, Football Management sims and FREEMIUM APPS, so wateva
I think you misunderstood everything I said, every generation of consoles SEGA drops and makes new IPs. That was my point, not that they made sequels within the generation. Is it that hard to understand?
Streets of Rage happen like 4 generations ago, why bring it back? I personally don't want 'Streets of Rage: Street Wise
I know, TA, I've seen those articles and don't doubt that they exist, but ultimately I do doubt their veracity. As for the matter of a Sonic III marketing budget of $20 million, well.. Halo 3 famously had a marketing budget of $10 million in 2007 dollars. So I would file that Sonic III figure under the category of absurd exaggeration as well.
So going by everything that happened today...
...Yeah, I think we might actually see a Shenmue thing at E3. Guessing at Sony's press conference.
No brakes.
If it is anything, its a HD remake which SEGA have been trying to focus on forawhile. Like they stated in press release: You will be seeing more digital games from SEGA West. It won't be III. We shall see :)
If something Shenmue doesn't happen, the suicide rates are going to be off the charts.
I've already cut my wrists in preparation.
I'm at a point where I cant even begin to get excited until I see hard evidence...
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I'm at a point where I cant even begin to get excited until I see hard evidence...
[spoiler]hype[/spoiler]
Wait and See ;)....
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If it happens I wonder if SEGA are even going to have anything to do with it... The French website is saying Quantic Dream is developing... Which is probably bullshit, but who knows. Maybe SEGA are letting Sony publish it, like Bayonetta 2 and Nintendo. I wont complain but SEGA distancing themselves from the project would be so disheartening.
If Quantic Dreams is developing the dream is officially dead, and there is nothing good in the world anymore.
BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE
Sega still holds the IP anyway, right?
Sega still holds the IP anyway, right?Yeah but they hold Bayonetta ip too and that didn't stop them basically bowing out of all involvement.
yassss I can feel it(http://www.fabioifc.com/BOOKCOVER_SHOTS_2/fab_fitness_frnt_web.jpg)
I'm so hyped
Before we didn't believe enough but now I believe and it is time for all of the nonbelievers and the hype destroyers to feel JEALOUS and SAD. How does it feel to be you now >:) :afroman:
yeahhhhhhh mayne
Shenmue :3
Yu Suzuki got back on twitter not that long ago, now he posted a fork lift he said he found at E3. Shenmue.com has changed servers to Amazon cloud which is used when they expect high traffic. Sony's 3rd party relations guy started following Yu Suzuki not long ago.
Thats all I've seen online. Sony's press conference is later today.
THIS IS SEGA DNA
I've updated my profile picture accordingly.
Oh good, but also probably means no Shenmue, I just don't see SEGA putting the man power into it. With no console to support SEGA have AM2 back on the Arcade games.
If it is anything, it's those HD versions of the first two games that have long been on hold.
(This is the first time the hype has infected all of us I think)
Sega deserves a AAA game with massive following
The world deserves Shenmue III.
In anticipation of "Shenmue" or "No Shenmue" I'd like to offer a double or nothing Kudos betting service.
Tell me how many Kudos points you are willing to wager - cannot be more than the number of Kudos you have. If anything Shenmue is officially announced, you get double those Kudos wagered. If no Shenmue happens, you lose your wagered Kudos.
SEGA was the hero the world deserves but not the one the world needed now. So we'd hate them, set the critics on them. Because SEGA's not a hero, they're a watchful developer, a silent publisher... THE BLUE KNIGHT.
In anticipation of "Shenmue" or "No Shenmue" I'd like to offer a double or nothing Kudos betting service.
Tell me how many Kudos points you are willing to wager - cannot be more than the number of Kudos you have. If anything Shenmue is officially announced, you get double those Kudos wagered. If no Shenmue happens, you lose your wagered Kudos.
In anticipation of "Shenmue" or "No Shenmue" I'd like to offer a double or nothing Kudos betting service.
Tell me how many Kudos points you are willing to wager - cannot be more than the number of Kudos you have. If anything Shenmue is officially announced, you get double those Kudos wagered. If no Shenmue happens, you lose your wagered Kudos.
How about this, if there is a Shenmue announcement you take away the 700 kudos you awarded yourself, and if there isn't a Shenmue announcement you take away the 700 you awarded yourself?
Somebody has Kudos envy.
I actually had -666 when the system began and it switched to positive 666 after a forum upgrade and since then the additional 38 were from the usual kudos clicks from other members. To be honest I didn't know people cared so much about the system.
We just don't like you weaseling those points to yourself. Real talk: I actually think the system is kind of pointless considering this forum consists of about twenty people who've known each other for nearly a decade anyway. We're like a family now.
More importantly, everyone give me Kudos for this post so I can wager it all on Shenmue. It's going to be there.
If your Mademan you're automatically banned.
Jesus christ, I just took a nap and dreamt Shenmue 3 was announced
The "never give up the dream" mantra in this thread is finally taking effect. It's like subliminal messages man, except it's just messages.
To be honest I didn't know people cared so much about the system.
It was a joke.
I had to make up everything said in that video because my speakers are broken, but I'm sure I came out on top.
1.5 million isn't enough? :P
Even if there weren't enough people back then who played it, over the years the series (and potential third game) has gained a sort of legendary status. Even people who haven't played the first 2 will obviously consider checking out a potential third due to the sheer amount of discussion it gets online.
Yes, it could be a port of the first 2 games, but why would SEGA port an unfinished story-based series if there wasn't even enough interest for a third? It's not entirely out of the question.
So how can I watch the Sony presentation so I can be disappointed live?
Well that intro didn't bode well did it... No Shenmue.
I screamed like genuinely because I thought it was Shenmue.
We're still in the beginning. We can call middles once we get an indie game montage.
GUYS okay guys
there IS still another sega game to talk about, according to the rumors
everyone hold THE FUCK ON
A few things that worry me. Yu NET is very small studio and hasn't really done anything. AM2 at the time of making Shenmue had decades of experience. 2 Million is a low budget and so far the assets release are troublesome.
I know people here will get mad for even saying something like that, but lets be honest...
I can't wait to see more.
A few things that worry me. Yu NET is very small studio and hasn't really done anything. AM2 at the time of making Shenmue had decades of experience. 2 Million is a low budget and so far the assets release are troublesome.
300k ^_^
I HAVE RETURNED MOMENTARILY TO SAY: HOLY SHIT! I'M SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW!
Yeah I can't stand the face.
Okay, real talk... This game IS going to get funded... Within an hour it's 1/4 of the way there... And I'd say most of us haven't even put money down on it yet. I can't until tomorrow morning but I plan on probably funding multiple times. So yes we're getting Shenmue 3 but in what capacity?
I see that SEGA still owns the IP but are not really involved with the project. That makes me sad... And worried. Ys Net just aren't going to compete. I don't see why SEGA have to be such cunts about it and I seriously hope this gets funded out of its ass and when SEGA see the money their missing out on they feel like complete and utter chumps.
The Ryo model looks pretty on-point, really looks like if they took the old dreamcast model and gave it an HD touchup.Not really, should have ripped the assets from the Passport:
Doesn't mean it looks GOOD, but it looks on-point. Shenhua's model is really good though.
I'm pretty sure this whole kickstarter thing is to gauge interest, after which Sony will probably be funding the game past the $2 Mill. Sega's involvement was probably something like Sony saying "Hey Sega, you cool with this?" and them saying "Yeah sure, whatever".
Lost opportunity on Sega's part.
Don't count on it... I don't see any involvement from Sony on the trailer or kickstarter page...
There has to be some sort of minor funding on Sony's part. Why else would it be exclusive to the PS4?
Also, pretty sure these are nowhere near final assets.
Most likely helped YS Net get the license from SEGA to use in the game and is probably helping them with tools. I don't think lots of people here understand that YS Net is very small company. I assume someone at Sony's 3rd party relations is helping them with porting to PS4.
The last game they made was over 5 years ago and it was Shenmue City which didn't get much acclaim.
Besides being excited for this, I'm also just really happy for Yu Suzuki. He really deserves this.
Lost opportunity? Maybe, but outside of the Yakuza team all their console teams capable of making Shenmue III are working on bigger franchises than Shenmue, just plain fact.
Thread is in wrong category. Sega has nothing to do with this, and I'm fucking pissed that this is the case.
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This is my only worry, but if there is one developer I believe in then it is Yu Suzuki.
To be front and centre at E3 after so many years must be something special.
When it seemed his star had faded... That is when it shone the brightest.
THE DREAM IS ALIVE.
Thread is in wrong category. Sega has nothing to do with this, and I'm fucking pissed that this is the case.
I'm confused. Does sega have nothing to do with this?
I don't think AM2 is working on Sonic the Hedgehog.
is this thing going to look like a game from 2004?
So, yes, I'm a bit worried that Ys NET, a developer that made one mobile game half a decade ago is the one developing the game.
But saying that, I funded it.
We made it everyone.
Shenmue III in our lifetime.
We made it everyone.
Shenmue III in our lifetime.
No we haven'tConfirmed, TA wants to kill Mademan.
Confirmed, TA wants to kill Mademan.
It's a joke on SONY part to have it on their main E3 stage and yet not have the commitment or backing to fund the project
You're just never happy, are you TA?
Thank you! I thought about grabbing Shenhua from II but I figured this would be much more fitting for the occasion. I love her updated design so much aaaaaaaa
Sony's higher ups have been funding the project and helping out. https://twitter.com/yosp/status/610659271647215616 (https://twitter.com/yosp/status/610659271647215616)
Understand that there is still a lot of mystery revolving the project. I feel like negotiations with the IP just happen. There isn't even a publisher announced and YS Net's last game was a mobile that also had a publisher.
If they needed a publisher for a mobile game, they will need one for this.
Apparently ken sugimori donated 10000$ to the kickstarter, securing dinner with Mr. Suzuki : https://twitter.com/SUPER_32X/status/610645120526848000 (https://twitter.com/SUPER_32X/status/610645120526848000)
Now that fucking warms my heart.
It's hard to put into words how amazing this is. One of the great, big projects we thought would never come is finally here.
$2 million seems too low for a project like this, though. I wonder what kind of outside funding they're getting? Do we even know the name of the dev team?
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Are they doing this again? I think he said once that the 3rd game was to be bigger than the first and second. The game was suppose to be about a small town kid's grand epic journey.
We are balancing our ambitions for a grand sequel with the pragmatic realities of developing a game of this scale. It will not be easy, but I have dreamed of making this sequel for 14 years – it is time to bring Shenmue back!
So, yes, I'm a bit worried that Ys NET, a developer that made one mobile game half a decade ago is the one developing the game.It'll certainly remain to be seen whether they're up to the task. But realistically, they're going to be assembling a new team anyway. The lead programmer for the Shenmue series, Takeshi Hirai, is also the CEO of Neilo, Inc, and they just announced that they're recruiting staff for Shenmue 3. This could really go either way, but realistically speaking, $2 million is nowhere near enough to make Shenmue 3 and I think they know it. They'd probably need closer to $10 million. We'll see, all we can do is hope that the people onboard have enough experience to see this project through, despite the fact that they haven't really created any AAA games for the past decade. The Unreal 4 engine seems like a good choice though.
You're just never happy, are you TA?
Higher-ups at Sony loved them some AM2 games growing up,
Yeah, why funding on something that don't belong to them anymore.
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=75643558&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch (http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=75643558&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch)
Out of curiosity, why do they have the copyright symbol of Sega at the bottom then?
Oh, I know. But as it's well documented, Shenmue's failure wasn't due to the game itself. It actually sold rather well.SEGA invested the money in hopes that it would be another big game that would sell units the way that Virtua Fighter sold the saturn, but in a world wide way. Shenmue was a failure in what SEGA wanted, it didn't move Dreamcasts and wasn't a bigger hit than Virtua Fighter. Especially considering that the Saturn and Virtua Fighter 1/2 attach rate was crazy. i think at one point everyone that owned a Saturn owned a copy of the game.
Right, and I think Yakuza has replaced Shenmue....Sega president Hideki Sato said: "altough Shenmue has not recouped the cost, we can lent the experience into future projects..."Sounds like PR speak, no other game used the Shenmue engine that I know of.
Then Suzuki said: " I'm thankful that Nagoshi has been able to learn from the challenges I endured, and use it to give back to Sega. It's a good thing for Sega and I'm very thankful for that."
Sounds like PR speak, no other game used the Shenmue engine that I know of.
SEGA invested the money in hopes that it would be another big game that would sell units the way that Virtua Fighter sold the saturn, but in a world wide way. Shenmue was a failure in what SEGA wanted, it didn't move Dreamcasts and wasn't a bigger hit than Virtua Fighter. Especially considering that the Saturn and Virtua Fighter 1/2 attach rate was crazy. i think at one point everyone that owned a Saturn owned a copy of the game.
Marvel vs Capcom, Crazy Taxi and Sonic Adventure all sold better than Shenmue and altogether cost way less than Shenmue did.
I love the games, but let's not pretend it wasn't a failure for SEGA. People want to think failure means the game isn't good. The game is great, just the fact of life sadly.
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I predict that it'll be fully funded in 'bout an hour.
So how much do you guys think this is gonna make in the end? Will it reach 10 million> ?
My best guess, is 4 million. At best.
No way this doesn't eclipse either Mighty No 9 or Igavania.Its crazy to think that shenmue could have larger support than bigger franchises like castlevania and megaman. Would be amazing
$12 million.
Its crazy to think that shenmue could have larger support than bigger franchises like castlevania and megaman. Would be amazing
Shenmue is larger than either series.What makes you say that? My view is that it may possibly have a more passionate following than the other 2, but the other 2 games are much better known?
What makes you say that? My view is that it may possibly have a more passionate following than the other 2, but the other 2 games are much better known?
Sales.
Casltevania and Megaman rarely sold over a million.
Well in total franchise sales, it pretty much sold more than any Sega franchise other than Sonic.
Not making MegaMan and CastleVania is like not making Sonic and Mario imo
We don't actually know how much it cost as Yu Suzuki himself has said two different numbers. 80 to me, seems far too high even back then personally.
What I'm saying is, they wanted Shenmue to be a big title for them and they poured money into. However, expecting Shenmue to "save" the DC even back then was ridiculous. It was already dying before it was released and it's unlikely one game would turn that around. Throw in the theory that it needed to sell twice as many copies then the DC sold just to hit profit and it's even more absurd.
Take the stupidity of that out and simply work off the the number of DC's around, it sold well. On a more successful console, maybe it would of sold even better? We'll have to see I suppose.
Well in total franchise sales, they pretty much sold more than any Sega franchise other than Sonic.
Not making MegaMan and CastleVania is like not making Sonic and Mario imo
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/business/salesdata.html
Megaman series has sold 31,000,000 million units between 131 titles. Harder to know the series impact without knowing how much the best selling title sold.
Even still, that's clocking only 240k or so a release
No one thinks its Shenmue 3, we think its a Shenmue type announcement. Most likely a HD port, I very highly doubt its III
A few things that worry me. Yu NET is very small studio and hasn't really done anything. AM2 at the time of making Shenmue had decades of experience. 2 Million is a low budget and so far the assets release are troublesome.
I know people here will get mad for even saying something like that, but lets be honest...
I don't see why SEGA have to be such cunts about it and I seriously hope this gets funded out of its ass and when SEGA see the money their missing out on they feel like complete and utter chumps.
If that's the case, then 2 Mill for Shenmue 3? Looks like we will be getting the turn-based jrpg visual novel version of Shenmue 3.
You might be right though as the stretch goals seem to indicate fixed funding requirements. Guess we'll see how this goes.
SEGA isn't being bad for not funding the game, infact, SEGA are being pretty dandy in allowing Yu Suzuki to do whatever he wants with his own game.
Fact is the first two lost SEGA money so they weren't going to fund it in any shape or form, however I don't see them not promoting it or helping Yu Suzuki out like they do with all their friendly developers like FromSoftware, Index etc in some form or shape.
Lost opportunity? Maybe, but outside of the Yakuza team all their console teams capable of making Shenmue III are working on bigger franchises than Shenmue, just plain fact.
Besides being excited for this, I'm also just really happy for Yu Suzuki. He really deserves this.
I don't think AM2 is working on Sonic the Hedgehog.
I hope this game gets way past any imaginable stretch goal because money is all SEGA gives a shit about anymoreHave you not been following Sega for the last few years?
You and I brother. We believed before no one else, and we were right. And yet we walk the path of the righteous, towards the shining future, with our beating hearts singing the grace of Suzuki!
Everyone's (appropriate) reaction:
(Turn your volume down when you reach 20 seconds)
Are we gonna talk about the fact that Ryo sounds like the Postal Dude in the Kickstarter video? No?
No we haven't and all what was showing off was no more than when the DC game took us and Then game looks a joke the art on characters is just terrible and all we get is an small promise that we 'might' see the game in 2017. It's a joke on SONY part to have it on their main E3 stage and yet not have the commitment or backing to fund the project I mean 2 million to corps like SEGA or SONY is nothing for starters
Joke imo .
Confirmed, TA wants to kill Mademan.
No I want Shenmue to finished the way it should be. Not a piss poor kickstarted funded project but Shenmue III and IV (because III will never finish the story imo ) to be made by a 100 plus staff and with a nice big budget, not done on the cheap and at the mercy of kickstart goals .
I've been saying this for the last few years. Don't hold out expecting big things from Sega, they are rolling in FREEMIUM APP money now.
The fact that they are giving YSNet the rights to use the IP is almost a small miracle. Again, 'It's the best we got'.
This is Sega 2015, not Sega 1999.
We were talking about this before, we both secretly expected it to be HD 1&2. But I think we both had that little spark, deep down inside somewhere thinking, maybe, just maybe it's part 3.
Next up, Microsoft continuing the Panzer Dragon series whilst SEGA laughs manically preparing movies for all their IPs about to be made by the big 3.
So chaps.
Who do you think is going to big up the publishing rights to this?
Personally I think Sony and SEGA are going to pool some development resources into this project, Sony getting hold of the Playstation 4 rights and SEGA getting hold of that sweet sweet digital PC rights.
No way is the Kickstarter going to be it for Shenmue, this is just testing the waters.
Crimson Dragon?
I wonder if Futatsugi ever approached SEGA to get the rights for Panzer Dragoon on board for a new game?
Or all of them are looking enviously towards Yu Suzuki.
I wonder if Futatsugi ever approached SEGA to get the rights for Panzer Dragoon on board for a new game?
Or all of them are looking enviously towards Yu Suzuki.
I doubt it. I don't think Sega's been a dick about IP rights. Didn't they let Mizuguchi mess around with Rez several years ago?
Futatsugi hasn't shown interrest in Panzer Dragoon. It was MS who said "hey a Panzer game would be great"
So much negativity in here surrounding the art. The game had zero funding, what were you expecting? A full CGI trailer?
Pretty sure Yu Suzuki and anybody else on the team know about the higher standards of games nowadays. Give it time, it will look great once they get into making it.
So much negativity in here surrounding the art. The game had zero funding, what were you expecting? A full CGI trailer?
Pretty sure Yu Suzuki and anybody else on the team know about the higher standards of games nowadays. Give it time, it will look great once they get into making it.
I'm not worried that Yu doesn't know about advances in gaming since 2002. I'm worried he won't have the budget to make it phenomenal.
SEGA 2015 - You cunts all ran us out of business, now make our games. FUCKING DICKS.
Next up, Microsoft continuing the Panzer Dragon series whilst SEGA laughs manically preparing movies for all their IPs about to be made by the big 3.
Who do you think is going to big up the publishing rights to this?
I'm not worried that Yu doesn't know about advances in gaming since 2002. I'm worried he won't have the budget to make it phenomenal.
I think after this Kickstarter is all said and done, he'll have no problem getting additional funding from either Sony or SEGA.
It's like the best possible market testing either can hope for. Wither it would be enough for Shenmue remains to be seen, but they've already got a huge obstacle in the engine out of the way nice and early.
For real, I wonder if this will open the floodgates for more stuff like this? It's being proven time and again a viable way to fund niche titles.
I honestly don't know. I figured Kickstarter was a way to circumvent Publishers altogether, but someone will surely want to lay their hands on the fastest funded game ever.
I feel like Sony is more likely than Sega at this point.
Yes, it is quite clear Sony or SEGA are going to jump aboard this once they realize how profitable it can be for them. Happened with Mighty No. 9:
http://www.mightyno9.com/en/20150429 (http://www.mightyno9.com/en/20150429)
For real, I wonder if this will open the floodgates for more stuff like this? It's being proven time and again a viable way to fund niche titles.
I honestly don't know. I figured Kickstarter was a way to circumvent Publishers altogether, but someone will surely want to lay their hands on the fastest funded game ever.
I feel like Sony is more likely than Sega at this point.
I'm actually bracing myself for a very disappointing game, but at this stage I don't even mind if it's B-grade territory, just having Shenmue III will be enough.
Thread is in wrong category. Sega has nothing to do with this, and I'm fucking pissed that this is the case.
SEGA owns the IP, they allowed YS Net and that Shibuya developer to make the game. Not sure we will see the usual SEGA cameos via capsule toys and arcade machines. Then again, the game is in the wilderness so it makes sense for the setting at least.
SEGA
So, yes, I'm a bit worried that Ys NET, a developer that made one mobile game half a decade ago is the one developing the game.
But saying that, I funded it.
As worried as I am. I am funding the shit out of this...
Sounds like PR speak, no other game used the Shenmue engine that I know of.
Shenmue is larger than either series.
Its crazy to think that shenmue could have larger support than bigger franchises like castlevania and megaman. Would be amazingI imagine being announced at the single biggest gaming event of the year helped it a smidge.
Stop capitalising Sega, you're an adult. ;)
Yes, it is quite clear Sony or SEGA are going to jump aboard this once they realize how profitable it can be for them. Happened with Mighty No. 9:
http://www.mightyno9.com/en/20150429 (http://www.mightyno9.com/en/20150429)
Realistically I see this kick starter reaching about 5 million USD tops.Read the FAQs on the site, pretty sure you can change the amount up until the 'closing' date (July 31st I believe).
I've still yet to put my money in but I am considering the $100, don't actually have that at the moment... Does any one know if I can do one funding option and then bump it up to the next later on?
SEGA are already crowdfunding mobile games in Japan www.crowdrive.com (http://www.crowddrive.com)
They also said in future it might be used to crowdfund console games... Who knows.
Sony doesn't publish PC games and I'm not sure SEGA will allow a third party outside of a console developer to publish one of their IPs.
I mean Suzuki could self-publish it but I doubt that too.
SEGA is an abbreviation of Service Games so capitalising is perfectly fine.
Legal documents and the company itself refers to it as SEGA.
Basically FUCK YOU CUNT.
Sega = True Sega Fans
SEGA = Sonic Adventure 2 Nintendo Babby
(I'm just kidding, I love you bro. We made it to Shenmue III.)
Except Capcom didn't dip in for Mighty No.9
Deep Silver is a just publishint/distrubution firm. Suzuki already has help from a company called Shibuya Productions. I stand by Sony and Sega not giving a shit.
I find it really weird that they are using it to fund Mobile games. Those are traditionally meant to be the low risk options already. You'd think Crowd Funding is better utilized for bigger budget stuff like console games.
And yeah, Sony doesn't publish PC games, I guess Sega might get involved for that. I'm interested to see how it's going to play out.
(I'm not kidding, I hate you bro, I MADE IT TO SHENMUE III :3 )
[spoiler]I'm really kidding... Or am I?[/spoiler]
Shenmue III means everyone on this forum loves each other.
(Also wow, that new model really does look bad even compared to the All-Stars games. But I suppose they couldn't really gt the rights to those...)
If last night hadn't happened, this would be a good time to use the "Maybe the real Shenmue 3 was the friends we made along the way" line.
Shenmue III means everyone on this forum loves each other.
If last night hadn't happened, this would be a good time to use the "Maybe the real Shenmue 3 was the friends we made along the way" line.
What if Shenmue 3 bombs and Shenmue 4 is finally iced forever? Dun dun dun.
Kudos for that.
Shibuya Productions is yet to do any video game projects, they've done movies and animation so this will be their first real leap into the gaming industry.
http://www.shibuya-productions.com/en/projets.html
So will it reach 3 million by the end of the first day? I think it will be at 2.6 personally. I think it'll reach 4 million by the end of the week and will dramatically slow after that. Maybe making 5 million by the end.
Kickstarters are traditionally really strongly funded at the very beginning and very end of the campaign. I think if it's at 3 million by the time it slows down, it'll potentially hit 5 or 6 by the last day. The last day or two you get everyone who 'umm and ahh's about it having to make a choice.
Realistically I see this kick starter reaching about 5 million USD tops.
I've still yet to put my money in but I am considering the $100, don't actually have that at the moment... Does any one know if I can do one funding option and then bump it up to the next later on?
^Have to take into account, there are a lot of people who'll just ride the wave of hype. Not to mention people who want to back but need time to get their funds together etc.
Pretty cool milestone I just saw, 1000 backers for every day the kick starter has left... On the first day too. Pretty awesome to see!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11227051_10153434800189380_3783400524974647904_n.jpg?oh=63371836fe590a7e538589ee6b3dba1d&oe=562D0C0C&__gda__=1441934169_fbaae73ef60961396a8583d0e2ae75a5)
You can. There's a manage pledge option once you've donated.
I figure 2.5 years of waiting for the game, that extra $40 allows early access at least.
I wonder if the game will retain Virtua Fighter style combat? That was one of the elements to the game that I think really relied on SEGA and AM2's development abilities. I'd hate to see a cheap imitation or scrapping that sort of combat for something else.
I'm at $60 now but might up it to $100 which I think is the most sensible tier. Art book and other stuff sound nice, but we really don't know the quality of the capsule toys (unlike the TJ&E kickstarter which had them finished and photographed). Also, I think the tiers are a bit too high for certain prizes. $300 tier is so damn tempting, but I don't have $300 to spend. :(
I wonder if the game will retain Virtua Fighter style combat? That was one of the elements to the game that I think really relied on SEGA and AM2's development abilities. I'd hate to see a cheap imitation or scrapping that sort of combat for something else.
Also, thanks for honoring the Kudos Wager, Barrington!
I doubt SEGA will even lift a finger for this game... Luckily it's coming to PC so if there are a lot of problems and terrible in game models modder will probably fix it.
We're just a few dollars away from French Subtitles guys! Yeah.... :o
Well that's about par for the course being a Sega fan, isn't it?
Jonboy can soon die happy.
Can't wait for all the salty people saying "Shenmue isn't even that good" along with "who even cares about Shenmue anymore" and "why is Shenmue getting a sequel when [x series] hasn't!"
Can't wait for all the salty people saying "Shenmue isn't even that good"
So I imagine it's time for some younger game-bloggers start making posts about how they tried Shenmue and it's boring, and totally over-rated.
It seems that Sony confirmed that they're actually involved with the game's funding/development: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1064673 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1064673)I'm worried this may slow the Kickstarter campaign.
I definitely have the urge to play them through again as well. Unfortunately my Dreamcast and games are on the other side of the planet. Might need to look into NullDC emulation.
It's valid to claim that Shenmue is clunky, mostly dull, and repetitive... but hot damn, I love it regardless. I love getting lost in that world.
Well I guess budget and staff won't be TOO much of a concern if PlayStation is directly involved with the game's development. It makes me wonder though, if they were always going to be involved, why PC too? Why not a straight-up PS4 exclusive? I'm absolutely not complaining about it coming to PC but I'm confused why.Sony probably does not see the PC as direct a competitor as the Xbox. After all, some of the biggest MMO's for the PC were developed by Sony. Only in recent times did they even make an attempt to port PC titles from Formerly SOE(Daybreak) to the PS4, and that was before it got spun off and sold.
This happens every time someone brings up Shenmue. Some guy comes in and is like 'Shenmue was never good, it's boring and the voice acting is bad, sailors sailors sailors etc etc'.
I feel like, yes there are a lot of weak aspects, but my god the game is so much more than the sum of it's parts.
FFS
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=168473277#post168473277
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=168473728#post168473728
FFS
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=168473277#post168473277
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=168473728#post168473728
We'll see how far Sonys support goes... I have a feeling it wont be much more than publishing and distribution.Easy, its not getting a physical copy on PS4.
FFS
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=168473277#post168473277 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=168473277#post168473277)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=168473728#post168473728 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=168473728#post168473728)
NeoGAF is full of bitches, not surprised. Seriously, this game would never exist without Kickstarter. Besides, you pay for what you get, it's not like I'm donating money and getting nothing in return. Geez.
I can agree with people being turned off being of this approach though. Don't see why I have to fund Shenmue 3 if it was Sony's plan all along, especially when they have the funds and data to know how viable Shenmue is!
I'm glad I was there to show my support to the main man though, but I can understand people's frustration with the situation.
Perhaps Sony are funding but maybe not enough for whatever Yu needs to realise Shenmue 3 how it needs to be. We don't know the details but I doubt Sony are putting down a full AAA budget.Yeah, the way Adam Boyes said it ("Some funding") makes believe they'll just help a bit on top of whatever the Kickstarter generates. I think Suzuki and Sony should clarify all of this, otherwise I think it would hurt the Kickstarter.
I can't, it's not as if they aren't getting anything for their money... You pay for what you want, the only difference is you're paying for the game before it's developed instead of after.
Perhaps Sony are funding but maybe not enough for whatever Yu needs to realise Shenmue 3 how it needs to be. We don't know the details but I doubt Sony are putting down a full AAA budget.
Fuck are you eating crow for? Did you lose a bet? Did you WIN a bet?
The thing is no one has been upfront about this. I don't care because I'm willing to throw money at Yu Suzuki but for other people who are trading their hard earned cash they'd like some honesty beforehand.
Everybody who's upset needs to consider for a second that what they think Kickstarter is and what they think Kickstarter should be, really doesn't have any bearing on what Kickstarter really is. If they've got some bonehead idea or some idealistic wish about how Kickstarter should or shouldn't be utilized, they need to check in with reality.
I WISH I had the money to have dinner with Suzuki-san, even a reward to just have a beer with him at his favorite bar or something.
I WISH I had the money to have dinner with Suzuki-san, even a reward to just have a beer with him at his favorite bar or something.
To be honest I don't think the Kickstarter would be a success if people were told about Sony (Possibly SEGA and Shibuya Productions too?) funding for the game. But some people are mad and they have every right to be, but true SEGA DNA fans such as us do not care for such thing, we have Shenmue 3 and that is all that matters!
Personally now that this is a success I wouldn't mind companies opting for kickstarter for abandon or old franchises. Streets of Rage 4? Panzer Dragon? Jet Set Radio? Let's go all innnnnnnnn.Them holding it back till now is the scummy part about this imo. I want to give my money to my main man Yu Suzuki, not some scummy rich company that hides behind a legend to fund a project and them taking some of the honor and credit. Like some sort of hero? This news is highly disturbing and i am not happy about it. Sony desperatly wants to look good in this but it ended up making look like assholes to me. I can see through your scheme sony
To be honest I don't think the Kickstarter would be a success if people were told about Sony (Possibly SEGA and Shibuya Productions too?) funding for the game. But some people are mad and they have every right to be, but true SEGA DNA fans such as us do not care for such thing, we have Shenmue 3 and that is all that matters!
(Should have tried to aim for dinner with Suzuki-san : < )
Them holding it back till now is the scummy part about this imo. I want to give my money to my main man Yu Suzuki, not some scummy rich company that hides behind a legend to fund a project and them taking some of the honor and credit. Like some sort of hero? This news is highly disturbing and i am not happy about it. Sony desperatly wants to look good in this but it ended up making look like assholes to me. I can see through your scheme sonyI don't think they held anything back. It hasn't been 24 hours since they announced it, and Sony explained their involvement (albiet in a vague way) in two interviews.
I don't think they held anything back. It hasn't been 24 hours since they announced it, and Sony explained their involvement (albiet in a vague way) in two interviews.
It would be scummy if they held off that info until the Kickstarter campaigned finished, but right now, anyone can cancel or adjust their pledges.
Them holding it back till now is the scummy part about this imo. I want to give my money to my main man Yu Suzuki, not some scummy rich company that hides behind a legend to fund a project and them taking some of the honor and credit. Like some sort of hero? This news is highly disturbing and i am not happy about it. Sony desperatly wants to look good in this but it ended up making look like assholes to me. I can see through your scheme sonyDo you want Shenmue 3 at its best or not? Do you want SEGA to look at the funds raised and feel stupid for waiting so long and want a piece of the pie (hopefully by releasing 1 and 2 in HD) Do you want to help the greatest video game pioneer of all time realise his dream? Don you want to find out the end to the Shenmue Saga? If the answer is yes then you know what to do regardless of whether Sony may or may not be 'scummy.'
I don't think they held anything back. It hasn't been 24 hours since they announced it, and Sony explained their involvement (albiet in a vague way) in two interviews.
It would be scummy if they held off that info until the Kickstarter campaigned finished, but right now, anyone can cancel or adjust their pledges.
Do you want Shenmue 3 at its best or not? Do you want SEGA to look at the funds raised and feel stupid for waiting so long and want a piece of the pie (hopefully by releasing 1 and 2 in HD) Do you want to help the greatest video game pioneer of all time realise his dream? Don you want to find out the end to the Shenmue Saga? If the answer is yes then you know what to do regardless of whether Sony may or may not be 'scummy.'I want shenmue 3 but im not that desperate to just lay down all principles for it. You have to imagine that Sony and Suzuki agreed on this and than decided to present it. But think about the idea of a rich person asking you for money for assurance. In real life this would be considered disgraceful, shameless, low and laughable. Sony wants their namesake plastered on the product too much. I think there was definitly selfishness involved when they decided to aproach Yu Suzuki and making him feel all warm and comfortable.
This is absolutely true.Well, it's their money. Can't say I'm happy about it though. First, I don't see anything unethical about that. Secondly, I don't want the kickstarter's momentum to be slowed down just because Sony is willing to chip in with the funding (Which might be a relatively meager amount if we go by Boyes' wording).
So right now those people on GAF are more than welcome to cancel their pledges if they feel something ethically wrong about it.
I'm still fucked up that the game is even real. Like my brain hasn't fully comprehended the fact that Shenmue 3 is really happening. I can't get over it. I am unable to fully process this, it's like 80% processed and it's just stuck there.
think about the idea of a rich person asking you for money for assurance.Like when you take a loan from the bank?
So its probably not gonna be the case. But what would you guys think if Shenmue 3 had Sony franchise references inside the game? For example Sony franchise capsule toys and collectables
So its probably not gonna be the case. But what would you guys think if Shenmue 3 had Sony franchise references inside the game? For example Sony franchise capsule toys and collectablesIt would be cool anyway. But I would prefer Sega stuff, no doubt
Like when you take a loan from the bank?So you're comparing Sony to banks. I guess that makes sense yes
So you're comparing Sony to banks then? I guess that makes sense yesIn this case I believe it does make sense. Sony is the bank, the currency being Shenmues
Well, it's their money. Can't say I'm happy about it though. First, I don't see anything unethical about that. Secondly, I don't want the kickstarter's momentum to be slowed down just because Sony is willing to chip in with the funding (Which might be a relatively meager amount if we go by Boyes' wording).
It would be cool anyway. But I would prefer Sega stuff, no doubt
In this case I believe it does make sense. Sony is the bank, the currency being Shenmues
Your money is going to Yu NET, Sony's money is also going to the team. What's the big deal? I'm assuming support and help is coming on porting to PS4. I can see a team helping YS Net and them advertising to their fanbase.
Kickstarter is probably going to generate between $10 - $20 millionThey would have reached 10 Million comfortably before the Sony-Funding revelation... Now, I'm not sure. I think we'll be lucky if it hits 8 Million. Hardcore fans will pledge, other people who are mildly interested will be like "Sony is getting it funded anyway, why pledge more than $30?"
Kickstarter is probably going to generate between $10 - $20 million,
They would have reached 10 Million comfortably before the Sony-Funding revelation... Now, I'm not sure. I think we'll be lucky if it hits 8 Million. Hardcore fans will pledge, other people who are mildly interested will be like "Sony is getting it funded anyway, why pledge more than $30?"
I SERIOUSLY doubt that... In the next 24 hours funding is going to slow down considerably... I think 7 million tops and that is pushing it.
Yu Suzuki should bring back the cat and add more depth. Kickstarter people love cats.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/elanlee/exploding-kittens?ref=category_most_funded
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I know it's early WIP, but man, Ryo's face is bothering me. I hope Ys.net can still use old Shenmue assets.
I don't understand the deal with instant mastery. It just sounds like the move scrolls you got at various points in Shenmue 2. You mastered those instantly and could start using them in battle immediately. Dunno why it's a big deal, it's already in the series.Maybe means you won't need to practice them. Like, the combat system doesn't require practice. Imagine a string of contextual moves performed by a single button press like the Arkham games, learning new moves opens new contextual possibilities.
I wholeheartedly agree. Yuck. I'll take the game in whatever capacity they provide it to me in, don't get me wrong, but this looks ugly as hell right now.
Honestly should have just showed artwork of the game instead of showing those graphics. That would have been my opinion on the whole thing.
Yeah that was going to be my next comment but the forum erased it all. The issue is we don't know much about the project. They haven't clarified if those are just 'in-placed' assets. I read their updates on their kickstarter and they are more busy sharing what other people think of Shenmue than clarifying obvious stuff like this.
So, why didn't they use the in-game assets? Does this mean that maybe they aren't allowed to use stuff that is funded with SEGA's money? If so that would mean no classic AM2 arcades, no SEGA toy capsules and so on.
I just think they are being very secretive. They are also using Shenmue fansites to spread the word, which is smart. Its just weird that one of them is the fansite that openly posts hateful messages on all the SEGA facebook posts.
http://shenmue.link/ (http://shenmue.link/) <--- all the way on the bottom.
Can't see why Sega wouldn't allow Yu Suzuki to use the SEGA name, but it might not even call for it considering where Shenmue was heading towards the end. Can't imagine many Afterburner machines being in the rural setting.
As for the hateful messages...I guess the logic there is they care. If they didn't care, they wouldn't get upset.
Regardless of what we feel about Yu's approach to crowdfunding, it worked. The money's pouring in
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How many chapters did Shenmue 1 & 2 include? And how many chapters are left for shenmue 3? Just wondering how much work they have to do
How many chapters did Shenmue 1 & 2 include? And how many chapters are left for shenmue 3? Just wondering how much work they have to do
How many chapters did Shenmue 1 & 2 include? And how many chapters are left for shenmue 3? Just wondering how much work they have to do
I'd wager that if Shenmue III is a success then the story will go on for one or two more games.
I seriously hope that we get some closure at the end of III anyway. Otherwise, we'll be clamoring for Shenmue 4 for another 14 years.
The boat ride after Chapter 1 was suppose to start another chapter but they didn't have enough content to make it one.
Suzuki needs to pull a George Lucas and condense his story. Lucas started with a 9-12 film idea, and then realized he might only make 1-3 films so he made the early episodes the backstory (1-3), condensed a few chapters for 4, told 5 and concluded it at 6.
Shenmue could end at III if Suzuki makes some concessions and condenses things. I mean, I don't want his vision to be truncated but I don't think people would be happy to see another To Be Continued in 2017...
I am interested on if they're going to bring back the gashapon and arcade games. If so, will it be a share of Sony and Sega? Just Sega? Will it stick to Sega of 1999, with only a few select franchises, or will it encompass the broadened spectrum of Sega characters? Will any new Yu Suzuki games appear?
Personally I wanna see UFO crane games make an appearance, either alongside gashapon or replacing it outright. It would be a perfect fit for Shenmue.
What do you guys think about this "Instant Mastery" thing Suzuki talked about in the KS video? I believe it gives of an idea about the type of combat system we might see in Shenmue 3, something more simple perhaps? I would've been great if they maintained the VF-esque combat system...
Yes yes, I know I'm being negative, last negative post, I swear! (At least, for a while!)
Honestly should have just showed artwork of the game instead of showing those graphics. That would have been my opinion on the whole thing.
Well, here is the concept art for the Virtua Fighter RPG chapters. Gives you a hint at what his original vision was:What upsets me more than anything is that i feel like the story has been cut to shreds. I feel like we aren't going to get this globe-spanning epic, and that the story will wrap up in this next game, probably taking place entirely in one town.
(http://segabits.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/3.png)
Yu Suzuki from just last year;This is relieving to read. I thought Suzuki was gonna cut himself thin by trying to fit everything within 1 game with the budget while there are more chapters left than shenmue 1 and 2 combined, and those games were already huge.
“Yes indeed, the story is far away from being completed and to be honest, I do not think that it’s possible to end it during Shenmue III. If I had to do it my way, players would experience the ending during Shenmue V. But that seems to be a lot so I’m going to try to finish it within the next 2 games.”
http://shenmuedojo.net/new/extras/interview1114.html (http://shenmuedojo.net/new/extras/interview1114.html)
So at least 2 games left.
What upsets me more than anything is that i feel like the story has been cut to shreds. I feel like we aren't going to get this globe-spanning epic, and that the story will wrap up in this next game, probably taking place entirely in one town.
He already had to cut Chapter 2 entirely, we never got to play that. I'm worried about how much more he had to cut. Something is better than nothing, sure, but I hope we get some kind of run-down or summary of the 'True' Shenmue after 3 is done.
Do we know if Shenmue III is going to be taking place in multiple countries/towns? A stretch goal was to 'Expand the villiage' which makes me think it's happening in one little rural villiage.
Yu Suzuki from just last year;
“Yes indeed, the story is far away from being completed and to be honest, I do not think that it’s possible to end it during Shenmue III. If I had to do it my way, players would experience the ending during Shenmue V. But that seems to be a lot so I’m going to try to finish it within the next 2 games.”
http://shenmuedojo.net/new/extras/interview1114.html (http://shenmuedojo.net/new/extras/interview1114.html)
So at least 2 games left.
This is relieving to read. I thought Suzuki was gonna cut himself thin by trying to fit everything within 1 game with the budget while there are more chapters left than shenmue 1 and 2 combined, and those games were already huge.
I am still kinda skeptical about this thing. I do really want to believe... It would be something if Suzuki was that huge of a contributor for shenmue 1 and 2, that it wouldnt matter what team works under him, he'd be able to achieve anything being that strong of a director. I actually do believe that
Mang did you miss my comment, is it cause you hate me now? I bet it's cause you hate me now : <
I don't think much has changed, except you hate my guts now ;___;
I did see that, but I'm also catching up on like 6 pages. This topic moves fast.
I also just want to brace for the worst, I feel almost as if he's since been asked to wrap it up in one game, or just wants to because he's not sure if Shenmue IV will ever happen.
Even wrapping it up into two games is cutting a lot. I really hope we don't finish the story in a little Chinese villiage and never get to travel to the Shaolin Temple in the mountains or to the big rolling fields, or wherever he was meant to travel originally.
Either way, once the story is done, I'd love for Yu Suzuki to give us all a run down of what the original vision's story was going to be.
I'm bracing for a B-list, indie style game if I am honest...Someone playing the first 2 today may feel that way about them.
Two things:
Mademan, Shenmue wasn't going to be globe spanning, I believe the whole story will take place in Japan, China and maybe Tibet. It's about martial arts at its core, after all. Plus those chapter carts all look as if they take place in Asia.
I'm surprised some of you are OK with a game lesser than the first two just so you can finish the story.
For me, Shenmue's plot isn't anything special at all, very standard revenge story you'd see in some Manga/Anime. What makes Shenmue special is how everything comes together nicely, the combat, story, exploration, world, atmosphere, etc...
If the game turned out actually mediocre, or like Ryan says, an "Indie style" game, I'll be extremely disappointed.
Given the Stretch goals mentioning various towns in China I suspect you will encounter at least 3 different Chinese villages in China, one a cold, picturesque mountain village, another an ancient slum looking place.
I'm surprised some of you are OK with a game lesser than the first two just so you can finish the story.
For me, Shenmue's plot isn't anything special at all, very standard revenge story you'd see in some Manga/Anime. What makes Shenmue special is how everything comes together nicely, the combat, story, exploration, world, atmosphere, etc...
If the game turned out actually mediocre, or like Ryan says, an "Indie style" game, I'll be extremely disappointed.
We just need closure.
Totally agree with you on that, Yakuza has it beat easily in both characterisation and plotline
I don't, the good guys win and the bad guys lose. I know that much. I want Shenmue for the experience.
The faces look like fan made models.
Plotline?
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Yakuza plots are pretty laughably bad if I'm to be honest. Amnesia, rubber bullets, long lost twin brothers, etc. I still love the games and they have fun plots, but oh my god it's the dumbest shit ever. I guess that's part of the idea though. I think you described it as a soap opera for men (that isn't pro rasslin)
Characterisation I'll give you though.
I didn't mean so much for the storyline itself as the what happens with the games and the series. Just having it kind of in limbo for so long was painful.
Obviously we all want the unique gameplay experience to come back, but even if it captures only part of what made the first two special it'll be great for a lot of fans.
Here's why Ryo looks weird:I think it's just a bad model.
The new lighting system is likely also brightening his eyes to a hotter brown, cause that's the first thing I see as "off" compared to the original.
It's a soap opera for men but even so, it's got a much better story structure and plotline than Shenmue. The two don't even really compare.
Stuff can be crazy but as long as it's in the realm of the universe then it's fine. Watchman for example is a fantastic plotline but are we really going to say the stuff that happens in it isn't shit crazy and actually farfetched, but if it fits in the realm of the universe what's wrong with it? Stuff like Batman Begins and The Dark Knight get away with logic but it fits in the what the universe is portraying so nothing wrong with it : P
Even so without the gameplay being everything it should be it would be a massive disappointment. I have faith in Yu to deliever and even if he doesn't game of the forever Yakuza 5 still exists.
Finally, Yu Suzuki shared more on ideas he has for Shenmure III’s QTE (Quick Time Event) system.
“I’d like to present a new QTE. Something elaborate, yet easily playable by just about anyone,” says Suzuki. “Instead of simply winning by pressing buttons in a timely manner, I’d like to make something that will have people win fights by making correct judgements.”
Famitsu then ask what kind of open world one can expect to see in Shenmue III.
“Everyone must be thinking that we’ll expand the open world more, but I’ve been deeply questioning whether or not to do that instead,” says Suzuki. “If we were to have 100 characters and split the budget among them, we’d be limited in terms of what we could do with each one; however, if we were to split that budget among just 10 characters, we could do a lot more with them.”
He continues, “For example, we could set a parameter for Ling Shen Hua, then we could have it change her attitude depending on the conversations, or the way one proceeds through quests. Of course, that doesn’t mean that it won’t be an open world game. A stretch goal on Kickstarter will determine the expansion of the city.”
Next, they ask about their target amount of funds from Kickstarter (which, by the way, is currently over $2.9 million as of this article).
“200 million yen (around $2 million) for starters,” responds Suzuki. “That said, 200 million yen is the minimum required amount in order to make the game. If we happen to collect more funds, then we’ll add more things that we’ve been wanting to add to it.”
I'm not talking about far-fetched, I'm talking about just plain lazy or bad writing. I guess the tone of the game makes it okay for the most part, since it's really silly and outrageous though.
As I said, I love the games and the characters regardless, and I feel most of the time the plot fits, but I also don't think I would ever describe it as particularly good.
What are you expecting from the gameplay of Shenmue III? I'm already expecting the fighting to be gutted really badly, unfortuantely. If they keep at least the exploration and the QTEs good it'll go a long way.
Sounds a lot like Alpha Protocol with the character interaction.
Also, I think Mademan will be disappointed with the fighting system. I think VF-style combat is being replaced with something else.
You're going to lose it when Shenmue goes all Dragonball Z on us.No, I really won't because I've been expecting it for so long, and the game has been easing us into it already. My favourite part of Shenmue is in Shenmue II where the old man in the park tells you to 'cover the ground with leaves' by hitting the tree.
I think it's just a bad model.
As for Yakuza, let's take that offline, because I think we are talking about different things. As I said, don't think I'm trying to bash the games too much, I do love the series and cannot wait for 5.
Actually my point was less to do with Yakuza and realism and more to do with the fact giving characters super powers usually ends up with even more deus ex moments. Now Lan Di can just teleport away just before Ryo is about to land the final blow.
I'm just amazed you think Shenmue had a decent plot. Pretty much most games have a better storyline than Shenmue. Narrative was probably Shenmue weakest area (obviously too, the world building took precedence. )
Power creep is a concern, but I figure if the story had a defined beginning and end it's less likely to happen rather than cape comics and the like where they just kind of make it up as they go.
I agree Shenmue's plot isn't great, but I like the sense of adventure the series had. I feel like it has a strong sense of back-story and a greater world which makes up for the weak plot if that makes sense.
Actually my point was less to do with Yakuza and realism and more to do with the fact giving characters super powers usually ends up with even more deus ex moments. Now Lan Di can just teleport away just before Ryo is about to land the final blow.
I'm just amazed you think Shenmue had a decent plot. Pretty much most games have a better storyline than Shenmue. Narrative was probably Shenmue weakest area (obviously too, the world building took precedence. )
What specifically is "bad" about it? It doesn't "look right?" It doesn't look like a person? It looks too much like a fake person? A bad action figure? Is he not attractive enough? I sure wouldn't hit that.
They haven't animated his face yet, which is why his expression looks derpy to me.
How can Shenmue's plot be bad when we have such key, series-defining moments as Asian Smeagle eating your Hong Kong tickets in the middle of an arcade?
Dude it's a bad model... The facial features are wrong, the hair and skin colours are off. It's just not Ryo Hazuki that we know and love, it looks like an imitation made in another games character creator. I'm hoping beyond hope the character model is a stand in.
Hmm, I'd say Shenmue's plot is rather basic, but it's the cultures it brings and world that it excels in. I can't say Yakuza has a even remotely good plot though if we're bringing it up. It's just nonsense created because that goes on and on.
If the combat changes, you won't be hearing any complaints from me. Man, I am terrible at fighting games, all my fights in Shenmue just boil down to "mash buttons and pray." I think an Arkham style fighting system would fit well, but only after a certain point, to show how much Ryo's skill has grown. He would also need a very tiny health bar and go down in only a few hits.
I agree with that, just unless Shenmue has a professional writer on board I am going to worry for the story. But as a mention the plot didn't really matter when it was more about the world rather than the core storyline.
How can Shenmue's plot be bad when we have such key, series-defining moments as Asian Smeagle eating your Hong Kong tickets in the middle of an arcade?
In all seriousness, I actually do like the plot a lot. It hits that very fine spot between over-the-top bullshit and actual plausibility. Helps that the acting is suitably cheesy across the board.
Polygon published an article and interview on the game's budget concerns, might be worth a look:Sorry Moody, but nothing from Polygon is worth taking a look at.
http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/17/8795017/shenmue-on-a-budget (http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/17/8795017/shenmue-on-a-budget)
They have the original games writer on board who has experience in film and TV apparently?
I'm not trying to defend the model, btw. I'm just trying to get people to elaborate on what they don't like about it beyond "shit sucks, fuck it."
I'm also trying to figure out why I don't like it, and analyzing it based on what I know about Unreal technology, modern game art pipelines, and character modelling/sculpting.
Dropping the original models and textures into Unreal would make them look like garbage as well.
Though Suzuki said that despite the evolution of open world game design since Shenmue 1 and 2 shipped, he doesn’t have any plans to alter the way Shenmue 3 will play to keep up with the times, aiming for a feel similar to the original games.
Simply put, it doesn't look like Ryo Hazuki. The facial features are wrong (Even taking into account the lighting and shadowing.)
Correct, he looks more like a person now and not a cartoon character.That's not necessarily a good thing. (I'd also argue he doesn't look more human than DC Ryo).
Quick work, Barry! I just looked at it a couple hours ago and all it said was "This is game not come out yet" or something similarly grammatically chunky.
Hey guys, I've been at work updating the Shenmue III SEGA Retro (someday to be renamed SEGAbits Wiki) entry: http://segaretro.org/Shenmue_III
The franchise box below has been updated as well. I'd invite any of you to contribute to the wiki as details roll in. Of course, it will also require an edit once the Kickstarter wraps.
*Each day of past 14 years - I put my Shenmue discs on the ground and do a "Totoro dance" around them to "grow" Shenmue III
Are you saying that we all actually died on the 15th June 2015, and this is the afterlife? The righteous got Shenmue III announced, while the wicked got Fallout 4?
However, as it turns out, shenmue.com still doesn't seem to load.Isn't shenmue.link using the same servers?
Can't wait for all the salty people
Uhg, why does this article exist?WHAT THE FUCKKKKKKKK
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2015/06/17/stop-donating-to-the-shenmue-3-kickstarter-right-now/
It's the first thing you see on Google when you search "Shenmue 3 Kickstarter".
But wasn't Totoro death?
Are you saying that we all actually died on the 15th June 2015, and this is the afterlife? The righteous got Shenmue III announced, while the wicked got Fallout 4?
Aki-at was in the middle, so he got Shenmue III and Metroid Republic Commando or whatever that game is he hates.
Forbes can't stop this train.Nothing stops this train... But it's slowing down.
Nothing stops this train... But it's slowing down.
Interesting infos from interview :
- The story begins directly where Shenmue II ended
- May have arcade games (it's a kickstarter stretch goal)
- New gameplay features : retrieve fighting skills scrolls, part of fighting system, can be unlocked in mini-games, gambling, side quests. The scrolls will unlock super moves and increase Ryo's skills.
- Good relationships between Sega and Yu Suzuki. Sega gave all elements from Shenmue 1 and 2 that Yu Suzuki need for Shenmue 3
- Cédric Biscay is in charge of PC version, and to find funds
- We will get new infos february 27, at "MAGIC " convention in Monaco
(sorry for my english)
So a dying question that needs to be answered now...
If Yu Suzuki has all the assets from Shenmue 1 and 2 why is Ryo's model so different?
I doubt there will be Arcade machines in remote Chinese villages, so maybe Ryo will move to a city?
The question is, is this just a stand in for the pitch? If not I am going to kick up such a ruckus!
Why settle on a Mega Drive? Sonic the Hedgehog, Sega Saturn and Xbox (or at least the buttons) exist in Shenmue already, we should be playing Jet Set Radio on a Dreamcast in 3.
Don't forget this game is funded by Sony, not Sega.
He'll be playing Gran Turismo on a PSX.
...
For some reason I got Mega Drive mixed up with Master System...did Outrun even come out on that?
And just before you're about to complete a lap the game takes control and forces Ryo to turn off the game, exclaiming how shit it is compared to Daytona.
Gran Turismo had better characterisation and plot than Daytona though.But Outrun 2 had blue skies...
Gran Turismo had better characterisation and plot than Daytona though.
Plotline?
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Gran Turismo plots are pretty laughably bad if I'm to be honest. Car crashes, faulty engines, long lost twin gearboxes, etc. I still love the games and they have fun plots, but oh my god it's the dumbest shit ever. I guess that's part of the idea though. I think you described it as a soap opera for jocks (that isn't pro hamilton)
Characterisation I'll give you though.
Do you feel 'Senna' falls apart in its third act cause shit goes super silly then. I would say certain elements is bad but Gran Turismo is engine and gearbox over Outrun when it comes to narrative. I don't see how that is something controversial!
You're going to lose it when Outrun goes all Sailor Moon on us.
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For some reason I got Mega Drive mixed up with Master System...did Outrun even come out on that?
Polygon published an article and interview on the game's budget concerns, might be worth a look:
http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/17/8795017/shenmue-on-a-budget (http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/17/8795017/shenmue-on-a-budget)
What? No. SEGA allows in house creators (if they still work there) to help with direction of IP. If their not there, they don't have a say. You think Naka has a say in Sonic games?
The approval for the IP will most likely be taken up by someone at SEGA-AM2.
Can you make an open world game for just $2 million?
No, we cannot make an open world game for $2 million. Shenmue will be produced using both the funds raised from the Kickstarter and through other funding sources already secured by Ys Net Inc. We are very sorry, but due to contractual obligations, details of outside investments will not be disclosed.
How will the funds raised through Kickstarter be used?
The funding collected through Kickstarter will go towards game development, minus Kickstarter's fees and the costs associated with running a Kickstarter.
Will the graphics be improved?
The screenshots and images posted are still in the early stages of development, and will continue to be improved. Please help spread the word on all of your social networks so that we can deliver a Shenmue 3 that lives up to its legacy!
So sounds like SEGA gets a cut of the profits. Makes me more hopeful stuff like arcade games and capsule toys will make it into this game.
Is this game affiliated with SEGA?
SEGA has officially given us the rights to use the "Shenmue 3" license.
I dunno how this is hard for people to understand: SEGA owns Shenmue IP, they asked to make a game for them using said IP, they allowed them and they get a cut without doing anything.
Similar to how the license works for Data-Discs who just released that Shenmue vinyl soundtrack:
http://data-discs.com/products/shenmue (http://data-discs.com/products/shenmue)
Will the graphics be improved?
The screenshots and images posted are still in the early stages of development, and will continue to be improved. Please help spread the word on all of your social networks so that we can deliver a Shenmue 3 that lives up to its legacy!
Sega making money from this game, even though they didn't lift a finger to fund or develop it.
Thanks, Sega.
SO you think that SEGA spent 40 million on 2 games, the saturn prototype and marketing for his game?
Nah, reckon they spent 20 on each dreamcast game. When Suzuki was asked, marketing etc was never mentioned. Just the games themselves.
Worthless? I don't think so. When directions were unclear I appreciated following NPCs.
Also, seems like the Kickstarter will barely hit 200k in 24 hours... That's a massive slowdown.
Is there a reason why PS4 has no physical reward tier but PC does? How many tens of thousands would upgrade their pledge from 30 to $60 if they offered a physical PS4 release? I just don't understand the logic behind this... I've never seen a more terribly organized Kickstarter.
Don't forget printing games on PS4 = Licensing fees that you don't have on PC, which could be a reason.
Digital has licensing fees too though?
They do, but I think they are different? I know you pay per disc for physical copies. I don't know what it would be in other countries, but I know it was about 10% or more of the retail cost of games in Australia was the fee to print the disc. Every console holder had this in some form.
There must be something we can do to improve the Kickstarter campaign? I mean the organizers are clearly not doing a good job at this (Their website hasn't been updated since April, and it's all in Japanese). Maybe we could contact Gio Corsi or the other french Producer with Suzuki and suggest better reward tiers... Man.. I'm being desperate.
I don't mean to sound harsh but...Where did Mr.Positivity from a few pages back go? :P
If this is how well they've planned Shenmue 3 then no wonder every publisher got hesitant at publishing it. Even Sony with their "full backing" is only doing "some" funding but are happy enough to fund stuff like Deep Down, Beyond and The Order.
I really hope they sort this out soon, I don't want to get a less than fantastic experience and I don't want Suzuki's career to end with a whimper :/
Where did Mr.Positivity from a few pages back go? :P
I don't mean to sound harsh but...
If this is how well they've planned Shenmue 3 then no wonder every publisher got hesitant at publishing it. Even Sony with their "full backing" is only doing "some" funding but are happy enough to fund stuff like Deep Down, Beyond and The Order.
I really hope they sort this out soon, I don't want to get a less than fantastic experience and I don't want Suzuki's career to end with a whimper :/
Could you imagine the backlash if Sega were behind this?
But surely that's not something that should stop them from offering it? If this is on Steam than they're going to take a 30% of the sale price of the game.
It could be like George or someone said before, Sony wants to publish a physical version of the game.
I don't mean to sound harsh but...I don't think the kickstarter page itself should be representative of the game itself.
If this is how well they've planned Shenmue 3 then no wonder every publisher got hesitant at publishing it. Even Sony with their "full backing" is only doing "some" funding but are happy enough to fund stuff like Deep Down, Beyond and The Order.
I really hope they sort this out soon, I don't want to get a less than fantastic experience and I don't want Suzuki's career to end with a whimper :/
There was backlash against SEGA anyway cause they weren't behind it haha.
Makes me wonder if SEGA should ditch their own inhouse engines and just go with Unreal 4 to save time and effort, they'll instantly catch up in the arms race with most publishers too.
I wouldn't think it would be a deal-breaker, I'm just speculating as to what it could be. If they have to pay $10 USD for the physical disk of PS4 on top of the PC equivalent it might be less enticing to them?
I don't think the kickstarter page itself should be representative of the game itself.
Either way, his career is already going out on a high, how many other people get to go to E3 after 15 year's absence and announce your dream project's continuation, then literally break a world record in the next ten hours?
Just wait for Hedgehog Engine 2 bro.
I think there is a misunderstanding going on right now:
People think that The Kickstarter is just a ploy to gauge interest (Thanks to the wording of that NeoGAF thread), and Sony will afterwards completely fund the project.
In reality, Sony just said they will assist with funding (The wording was "Some funding") and it may not be a significant amount. Plus it appears Sony is one out of multiple funding sources according to the KS's FAQm which Suzuki secured before the KS went up.
I hope someone clears this misunderstanding, but know the internet, any misunderstanding that produces Drama will always stick around.
Yes it's completely been misunderstood, Sony will get the credit (Even though they shouldn't entirely, its Yu Suzuki dammit.) and now we have fanboys on both sides, Sony ones proclaiming how they saved the franchise, Microsoft ones proclaiming how Sony is a scummy corp that is just jeopardising this Kickstarter.NeoGAF pretty much controls the media. When the misunderstanding is gone from NeoGAF, it will be gone from the rest of gaming websites (Since that's where they get their news from). There should be a new thread, explaining how Sony isn't going to fund it 100% and there is multiple funding sources.
In the beginning I had a similar mindset but I think the success of this Kickstarter is going to be essential to what type of Shenmue we get. I just hope Suzuki still has it in him to deliver a great experience, but if anyone can do it, it'd be him!
NeoGAF pretty much controls the media.
I don't think that's true.I think it's true to an extent. From my observation, an obscure piece of news or media pops-up on the internet... No one reports on it for hours (or even days). A GAF'er posts a thread about it, moments later every big name website picks the news up. This is has happened a LOT of times to be considered a coincidence. NeoGAF is extremely influential on gaming media/journalism.
I wouldnt be surprised if it were also SEGA fans themselves feeling uneasy about Sony playing a roll with what happened during SEGA's console days.
My issue is that SEGA isnt anywhere to be seen backing this project. Its worse than bayonetta 2 where at least we could find the SEGA references in the game. An aspect why i loved shenmue is because Ryo Hazuki was walking in a SEGA merchendised world. Im really going to miss that
I don't think that's true.
Another thing I feel this Kickstarter is bad is it's not showing why people should be excited. It does a bad job of explaining Shenmue to people who aren't Shenmue fans. Yeah you can go research what Shenmue is but most won't take the time to do that and instead go with the Kickstarter trailer... Which does a horrible job of selling it to people.That is true for the stretch goals as well... The first stretch goals were for Subtitles... I mean, really? And then you get stuff like "Battle Event" or "Additional Quest".
I don't think that's true.
Oddly enough, the NPCs in Shenmue 2 were generally speaking much friendlier and if you talked to some of them, they would guide you to the location at a snail's pace. That was a nice touch, but ultimately worthless.
He is currently locked in my inner mind, unfortunately Mr. Positivity burns through 10,000 calories an hour and he must be contained during the very important fasting period.
I don't think that's true.
That is true for the stretch goals as well... The first stretch goals were for Subtitles... I mean, really? And then you get stuff like "Battle Event" or "Additional Quest".
If they put the good stuff first, then the funding would slow down once those were achieved. "All right, we got Battle Event... who cares if it's translated into Italian?" As it is, everyone is like, "we've got to get past all these subtitles so we can get to Battle Event!"Makes sense.
I kind of think Sony haven't got a choice but to make sure this has a certain level of quality now. By putting this in their conference and showing support for Yu, it's put tremendous focus on them and the Kickstarter. Imagine the backlash if this doesn't materialise or ends up being a half baked product come release day?
I dunno. I might be wrong, but to me, giving Shenmue the leg up puts them on the line too.
You mean on the kickstarter trailer?
Oh you mean like hyping up subpar games like The Order?
Or how about disappointing entry into a mainline series (Gran Turismo 6)
Then there is the complete shambles of the launch that was DriveClub. Least not forget the enhanced demo version Playstation+ members were meant to get that magically... disappeared.
Yeah I don't think you can read anything into this.
Yu Suzuki is doing a Reddit AMA tomorrow.Nice! Hopefully people ask good questions.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/posts/1268191 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/posts/1268191)
Yeah; I was asking if they went back and fixed the kickstarter model.No, it's from the Famitsu scan... I assume the KS video is a little old.
So just some guy on the Internet then?
Okay yeah, NOW he actually looks like Ryo. Maybe the angles are bad? Maybe he's a "right side is my good side" kind of guy now?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFeUrC2gR30 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFeUrC2gR30)
Okay yeah, NOW he actually looks like Ryo. Maybe the angles are bad? Maybe he's a "right side is my good side" kind of guy now?
I'm guessing the AMA is a very spur-of-the-moment plan. First no mention of where or when it'll be, then a not-so-helpful time (seriously, do I get up tomorrow morning or not?!), and still no mention of where. I get the feeling the details are still being worked out.
http://shenmue.link/us-en/topics/#item25
He talks about wanting to scrap the Free battle system used in Shenmue. This worries me.
I imagine they know how important the battle system was to fans, so they won't screw it up too much, but I'm still concerned.
The more our project can collect for game development during this campaign, the more the game will come alive — with more quests, more story events, more mini-games, the addition of a free-battle system, and more fight options. Stretch goals are part of the project to show supporting fans what they can expect as project funds increase. Like at the 2.5 million dollar stretch goal, Shenmue I & II flashback scenes will be added.
Now you're just ignoring me :<
Guys, its probably a good idea to assume the worst for the battle system... without AM2 what hope is there for a battle system as good as Shenmue 2.
I can't help it, this thread moves too fast for me! I can't keep up with all this Shenmue information. :(
I'd expect the man who made AM2 to at least be able to deliver. Especially since he's grabbing former AM2 members.
You know the funny thing is we haven't seen Spock or Eraser since the announcement.They are in a catatonic state from the shock.
Guys, its probably a good idea to assume the worst for the battle system... without AM2 what hope is there for a battle system as good as Shenmue 2.
Key heads of Virtua Fighter arcade staff and people who made Shenmue are actually pretty seperate - fair to say that he'll be grabbing former members, but none of actual Virtua Fighter.
They are in a catatonic state from the shock.
Interesting that he says the new system is "Ground-breaking"... At least it's going to be different.
Eraser seems to have erased his membership too :(
Can you imagine an actual Virtua Fighter coding Shenmue III?
A big part of the original Shenmue games were the Sega Easter eggs, such as the capsule toys and playing Sega games in the arcades. Is there any possibility that those will appear in this game even though those licenses belong to Sega?
There are some things I can use and there are some things I can’t use. It’s kind of depending on further talks with Sega. I think there’s going to be a lot of small details that we’re going to have to speak with them on as we go along.
Good questions to ask Trippled.
So about the SEGA references, GameInformer asked Suzuki directly about it:
Seems positive, my guess is any project he made he'll be allowed to use the IP but series made by other teams like Sonic the Hedgehog, Phantasy Star etc will need to discussed with their respective teams.
inb4 Sega forces Yu to put in ads for their new franchises. 'Wow this Total War Battles: Kingdom Figurine is COOL!'
'I just won a Company of Heroes 2 DLC Figurine!'
(He'll have a Chain Chronicles cat-girl poster above his bed).
I didn't know I had a cameo in this game.
(I'm fine with just AM2 representation too.)
Eraser's account still exists, problem is his login info was wiped out and since we don't know his email address he will need to use the CONTACT US form or follow the directions on the forum announcements post so we can link him back up. So if you're reading this, call me! Well, don't call me, email me at SEGAbits at gmail dot com
I would like Sonic Team as well if he can swing it, the NiGHTS and Sonic stuff in the first two games were neat little touches. I think it had Bonanza Bros & Opa Opa, but even just AM2 would cover a wealth of stuff.
Kazuma Kiryu figurines would be nice too though :)
Why did this happen?
You'd think they'd let him after all he's done really. If Miyamoto is the father of Nintendo, Suzuki is surely Sega's?
And I've just put a lovely image of Miyamoto and Iwata together in your heads. Enjoy!
Both very much stray from the normal developer mindset. They aren't exactly technical guys, they're more like Miyazaki in the say they like to observe the world around them and be influenced by things other than games.
I feel they are both hugely important to gaming, and I couldn't say which is 'better' than the other. I do think they are both titans and their contributions are amazing. As Aki said, Yu Suzuki revolutionised fighting games, racing games, adventure games and arcade gaming in general.
>kotakuWell, if you know better journalists, then by all means contact them. Or if you're too lazy to do that, drop their E-Mails here and I will do it myself.
>cooperation
hahahahahaha
You guys... Instead of talking about Miyamoto, we should be trying to clear all the misunderstanding regarding Sony footing the bill for Shenmue 3's KS. I think it's doing more harm than we think.
I contacted Jason Schreier from Kotaku, hopefully he will cooperate.
What sells more;
Man with a dream is resurrecting THE DREAM for the fans
Or
Evil company is out to swindle your money, you won't believe what happens next!
What sells more;
Man with a dream is resurrecting THE DREAM for the fans
Or
Evil company is out to swindle your money, you won't believe what happens next!
The truth is, I don't think anything's really hampering the Kickstarter. Every Kickstarter starts with a big burst and then settles way down. Some of them manage to have a big burst at the end, though, which is what we should be hoping for, and preparing for.It's a combination of both. But you really think the non-hardcore fans are going to pledge anything more than the base reward knowing that a multi-million corporation is footing the bill?
The truth is, I don't think anything's really hampering the Kickstarter. Every Kickstarter starts with a big burst and then settles way down. Some of them manage to have a big burst at the end, though, which is what we should be hoping for, and preparing for.
It's a combination of both. But you really think the non-hardcore fans are going to pledge anything more than the base reward knowing that a multi-million corporation is footing the bill?
It's a combination of both. But you really think the non-hardcore fans are going to pledge anything more than the base reward knowing that a multi-million corporation is footing the bill?
No, but I wouldn't expect the non-hardcore fans to pledge anything more than the lower couple of tiers anyway. I mean... I certainly haven't backed any other projects in that way. Like, I'm not a Wasteland fanatic or Castlevania fanatic. You think anything was gonna get me to kick in $250 for Wasteland 2 or Bloodstained? Anything above the two lowest tiers is really for hardcore fans.I don't think you have to be a hardcore fan to support a project you're interested in. A lot of people are interested in Shenmue even though they haven't played any game in the series. True that the majority of them won't pledge more than the base reward, but some would definitely want to help the project realize it's potential. The gaming community knows how expensive Shenmue was to make, and I could see an effort from many to up their pledge so that Suzuki and his team get to make a sequel worthy of the franchise.
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3ag05q/i_am_yu_suzuki_ama/
All those shitty questions....
I don't think the real AMA starts til later...?!I think so, yeah. But they are letting people post (and upvote) questions, and then Suzuki will answer them at the appointed time... I think. I'm not versed in the ways of Reddit and AMAs.
How is 100,000 views (probably on a single video) comparable to over 3.2 million dollars raised, exactly?
Also: it's Final Friggin' Fantasy. What did you expect?
I think he's trying to dispel the notion that Shenmue is this secretly massive franchise every Shenmue fan says it is.
Personally I fell it's bigger than Yakuza but I don't really have much to go on other than "Well it sold 1.2 million on the Dreamcast." I'm predicting Shenmue 3 to have sales of anything between 1.5 million to 3 million but again, nothing to back it up but my gut feeling.
That's an insane number. No more than one mill between both versions, best case. Probably closer to 500k.m
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Yu is dreaming. It'll reach 7 million tops and for a videogame kickstarter that would be an incredible number.
Yu is dreaming. It'll reach 7 million tops and for a videogame kickstarter that would be an incredible number.I think it would comfortably reach $10M if:
I think it would comfortably reach $10M if:
-The Kickstarter is actually managed as well as the Bloodstained/Mighty No 09 ones, with good reward tiers and stretch goals.
-There hasn't been any confusion about how the game will be funded.
Ten million seems achievable. Kickstarter will raise around 6 million I think and Sony have already said they'll help back it too. They might just fill the gap.
The idea that they're might be a fourth concerns me for obvious reasons though. Without S1 & 2, we're relying on word of mouth and sales to push for the final chapter.
And I think he'll get it. If he gets 6 million and only needs four from Sony, I think they'll probably hand it him.
I would like to pledge 500, but I don't have a job nor money..
I feel bad for only reaching the 29 tier
• Have Ryo collecting EDM tracks throughout the game. Players could then select these tunes and play them via Ryo's mobile phone, replacing the game's regular soundtrack with EDM.
At this point I should remind you its based in the 80s...
Plus, pandering won't do much. It really comes down to just bringing the first two out I feel as even those old enough to remember it wouldn't necessarily of have had a Dreamcast or Shenmue.
So I think the Kickstarter is been planned pretty badly...
IMO they should have reassured from the start that need 10 million, and IMO if it woudn't reach it they should have just make split in chapters rather than say "barebone experience, just story". Like Shenmue III Chapter I
http://www.shenmuedojo.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=47760
Proper clear cut interview with Suzuki from Famitsu
Yeah Crackdude! Fund the whole thing already! :)I'll contact my banker right away. It's time I stop pretending I'm not loaded :afroman:
It's in a weird situation. SEGA still own the IP, but are happy to let Suzuki use it. I wonder if that's part of the problem?
It's not that, it's just remember how the other games bombed? That makes publishers terrified, and even if they have faith in the project, most of them don't want to pour the money into a probable failure. With various investors pitching in small amounts together, it adds up, on top of the money made off Kickstarter. A publisher like Sony putting in the $10-$20 million for a game like this would just be crazy of them, there's too many risks and not enough guarantee of a success.+
I'm confused if this Kickstarter was created to gauge interest. Why can't Sony fund the rest of this game?
It's in a weird situation. SEGA still own the IP, but are happy to let Suzuki use it. I wonder if that's part of the problem?
If Sony were to use it, SEGA may ask for them to cough up some notes. Where as if it's Suzuki with funding from multiple small pots to form a big one, they might just be happy with their cut as license holders.
Open World is a very vague and broad term. The ability to freely travel around the cities in Shenmue II and play mini-games, practice martial arts and talk to people however you wanted could easily be considered 'Open World'.
"Open world" sounds kinda odd to me. It doesn't quite have the elegance of "Full Reactive Eyes Entertainment."
So, the Kickstarter is running a little slow today. It's sitting on a comfy 3.5 million is of right now.
Still I wonder, SEGA did give him permission to use the Shenmue license, but doesn't Yu Suzuki have to at least pay some licensing fees?
So Yu Suzuki doesn't play videogames. That's so fucking brutal.
I like the car comment in regards to mobile markets. You need impressive and representative games for your brand even if it isn't as profitable.
Problem is Sega has zero big series in the West.
Yakuza doesn't reach a million.
PSO is nowhere to be seen.
Alien has 3 games and 2 are shit.
Aside from Sonic, we have fucking Spreadsheet Simulator 20XX (which I love). It's not enough.
This is why I'm not worried about games like Sonic going mobile only. Only a problem with smaller series.
You forgot about Persona, Total War and Company of Heroes!You are right, but does Persona and Total War have SEGA DNA?
(Company of Heroes 2 is at 1,441,946 and Rome II is at 1,958,522 according to Steamspy.)
They definitely need to up how big their Japanese games are in the West and I feel Phantasy Star Online 2 would have been massive but what can you do.
It's also why I'm holding out hope for a new VF.Coming soon for iOS.
It's also why I'm holding out hope for a new VF.
I'm surprised they haven't tried to make another SEGA All-Stars Racing game. Many (including myself) thought that was on par if not better, than the last Mario Kart. Did it not sell well?
You are right, but does Persona and Total War have SEGA DNA?
[/size]You are right, but does Persona and Total War have SEGA DNA?
Coming soon for iOS.
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Please no. Dunno about you guys, but I can't stand mobile gaming. :(
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-- I get it (laugh). Could you explain the 5 million dollar stretch goal; the character perspective system?
YS: That is where the player will take control of characters like Shenhua and Ren instead of Ryo.
-- At a certain point in the game will we be able to change characters freely?
YS: I can’t talk about details yet, so I will just say that it’s not necessarily like we are letting you control the other characters exactly like Ryo.
-- So it’s not like you can just change characters at will.
YS: The personality of Ren and Shenhua is different from Ryo, so even if they see the same thing the reactions would be different. When you played as Ryo it was his decisions, but playing as Ren and Shenhua would make it very interesting.[/size]
Please no. Dunno about you guys, but I can't stand mobile gaming. :(
-- It’s not like you totally left the game industry, but what do you think of the game industry in Japan looking from a bit afar.
YS: The game engine Unity came out and made it easy for just one person to make his own game, which is a good thing. It wouldn’t be healthy if only big budget games were able to survive. It’s good that the market has expanded with more alternatives. But it’s kind of sad that a majority of games that make money are small like games for smartphones.
Even Suzuki is disappointed in Sega (and by extension Aki-at and Crackdude)
Well he said majority, clearly he just wants to have EVERY type of game with equal footing.
Read between the lines!
You're not even a good gamer considering how long Isolation is taking you. Time to pack up and retire to the glorious mobile gaming future.1v1 me in smash bros, the most hardest game ever.
We are interpreting the scriptures differently, this is how the Great Schism happened!
1v1 me in smash bros, the most hardest game ever.
YS: It’s not like games for smartphones are necessarily bad, but what’s characteristic of smartphone game making is that the development cycles from start to finished tend to be fast.
Since Chain Chronicle is bigger in scope than most mobile games Yu Suzuki clearly is happy with SEGA creating titles like it, Chaos Dragon, Hortensia Saga etc please try harder next time mang.
(Also Smash? I don't even have to move the controller and I'd probably still beat you.)Tournament Rules:
Since Chain Chronicle is bigger in scope than most mobile games Yu Suzuki clearly is happy with SEGA creating titles like it, Chaos Dragon, Hortensia Saga etc please try harder next time mang.
Funny that Yu Suzuki stated that he feels bad that companies are making games for a rising market, also considering YS Net's only games are mobile... its a even stranger quote.
PS - I'm fed up with the SEGA hate over this. The game is happening, SEGA allowed him to use the IP. What the fuck else do people want?? I understand the need for Shenmue 1&2 HD, but I'm already seeing comments from people shaming SEGA for not footing the 10 million themselves. Already I've had to spam unrelated comments on the front page for Shenmue 3 supporters who see fit to shit talk any non-Shenmue 3 release because... I don't know, SEGA did something bad in allowing Suzuki to make his third game?
I think it's more concern that mobile games ARE the growing market, rather than annoyed that people are making games for it.Right, not much publishers can do about what consumers want. The Japanese market has always been weird and has ruined many great things. See sales of SEGA Genesis and Dreamcast in Japan for example.
If it weren't such a huge and rising market we'd see more people making larger and more ambitious games is his thinking.
As for YSnet, he probably makes those games because that's the scope his small team can handle, but based on his concepts he spoke about and this interview, he probably loves the fact that he has an opportunity to work on something big again.
He even said this is the most excited he's been to work on a game in a long time.
What does everybody think about the forklift returning? Suzuki seems to want to make it happen if he can in the context of the story and setting. I think it would be a fun bit of fan service, sort of like how Jurassic World threw in an old Jurassic Park jeep. Maybe Ryo could come across a broken down forklift in one of the villages and for a side quest he helps repair it and move some boxes to assist a townsperson. Or, Ryo finds one at the bad guy's base and uses it to ram into some guys.
:( It's slowing down...guys, we need to help push this anyway possible. Has anyone tried a twitter drive?It actually seems to be tracking pretty steady:
It actually seems to be tracking pretty steady:
https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/
Trending for $14 million, LET'S FUCKING DO IT.
TEN MILLION OR BUST.
Did Yu Suzuki just mention that _______ might be in this game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd4MyNqI0fo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd4MyNqI0fo)
I am not ashamed to admit that every time something reminds me that Shenmue 3 is happening I am so overcome with joy that I end up crying.
- Portuguese support added as Strecth Goal;IF THIS DOESN'T GET FUNDED I'LL LEGIT END MYSELF
Well fund it already! What did your bank manager say? ;)My fiancé bought went shoe shopping, I'm broke :(
Now I must dignify my ancestors and become a pescador
It's a niche title, there's no way it'll reach 10 mil. I would donate, but i'm not a fan of Kickstarter, like at all.
If Shenmue III fails we know who to blame now.
Pardon me for repeating myself, but this is something that does concern me for the future of Shenmue. When lll comes out and if it is like I described, do you think the fans will be okay with it?
Yeah, blame my wife for her $5000 knee surgery..You know I was just joking bro, I do hope your wife is recovering well.
Pardon me for repeating myself, but this is something that does concern me for the future of Shenmue. When lll comes out and if it is like I described, do you think the fans will be okay with it?
The reason I'm pressing it is because I strongly believe it will be like that on release and even Suzuki has hinted of a telltale style dialogue tree with Shenhua. I still think it'll keep its open world elements, just not as much interactions etc. But it concerns me as if the fans aren't happy, then Sllll and Slllll probably won't happen.
My hope is that if it does turn out that way, some will obviously not like it, but for the most part, they'll be okay. I'm hoping the ones they lose, might be okay due to new fans it might gain.
You know I was just joking bro, I do hope your wife is recovering well.
I think we're all worried about he risk of a half-finished game. Even at $5m which I think is very possible, we'll get something special, as at $5 he gets to do something he's been wanting to for a long time.
I'm still holding out hope that we can get at least close to ten mill.
Shenmue... knee?
Exactly, it's one of those curve balls life throws at you. Making me choose between her knee or Shenmue.. Sorry Shenmue.
I hope you all voted for Nozomi in the latest poll.Poll?
Poll?
I think I missed something.
I voted for Joy.
Check your email, there's a Kickstarter update that links you to a poll.
Now that you are in my gratitude I hope you're going to vote Nozomi.
What do people mean by mix of Telltale? in that you get to talk to people?
I'm not sure what Telltale does that Shenmue doesn't already do, but better.
To be honest, I thought Walking Dead was pretty poor in that all your decisions didn't matter and the puzzles were mostly really easy.
I'd be very disappointed if Shenmue was just talking to people with dialogue trees.
I'm not sure I agree about the walking dead though. Their games lack gameplay, but the writing is usually top notch. But, it does seem to be one of those genre's you even like or don't, so...
That is not true, I hold Monkey Island, Grim Fandango and Five Days a Stranger in very high regard, and think that Grim Fandango in particular is a masterpiece.
Walking Dead felt like a poor imitation of those games. At first playthrough I thought the games made up for the weaknesses by having a more involving branching story where your decisions mattered, but then when talking to others I found out that the game is very on rails regardless of what you do or say, leaving an adventure game with weak puzzles and small locations.
(EG, and spoilers obviously;
Choose to Abandon a woman as punishment and she's left on the roadside. If you choose to forgive her, she just runs away in the next scene anyway.
Choose to keep your hand despite being bitten? It's completely inconsequential if you choose to cut it off too.
Choose to kill someone who might become a zombie? If you don't, someone else kills him in the exact same way anyway.)
END SPOILERS
The characters are mostly pretty good and story is nice of course. I found they are still pretty fun for what is essentially a visual novel, but I think they are very thin experiences. Not trying to bash the game, I actually enjoyed the first Walking Dead, but then lost interest completely when I saw how little influence I had on anything.
Oh, I understand what you mean and I'm not critising you at all - think I wrote even instead of either..sorry.
Out of interest, what do you think Shenmue is? I've always seen it as an adventure game with other elements build around it personally.
Out of interest, what do you think Shenmue is? I've always seen it as an adventure game with other elements build around it personally.FREE
On a slightly different tack, is anyone else inspired by the recent news to replay S1 and/or S2? I finally got my Dreamcast set up with VGA adapter, plus an additional adapter since my Samsung monitor is weird about VGA inputs, plus another adapter to send the audio into my good speakers... the wiring is incredibly messy and weird, but it looks and sounds fantastic.
I've started up a game of Shenmue 2 on my 360. Only ever played through the game on my old Xbox, so I'm starting fresh.
It's slowed down a lot guys.THE DREAM IS DEAD
Guys... I'm scared...
(http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/minichart.png) (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/)
On a slightly different tack, is anyone else inspired by the recent news to replay S1 and/or S2? I finally got my Dreamcast set up with VGA adapter, plus an additional adapter since my Samsung monitor is weird about VGA inputs, plus another adapter to send the audio into my good speakers... the wiring is incredibly messy and weird, but it looks and sounds fantastic.
THE DREAM IS DEAD
Dude... come on. That kind of hyperbole is really counterproductive, and frankly pretty disrespectful to the people who have already made this the most successful game Kickstarter in history. There's really nothing about it slowing down that is unusual for a Kickstarter.Though it was obvious I was joking with that, hence the 'Seriously'. :P
Though it was obvious I was joking with that, hence the 'Seriously'. :P
I'm not sure. Those other games stand alone and people are in the same situation. Meanwhile, this is the third of five games with many others unlikely not to have played the previous games. It's tough.True. But there the first stretch goal is a movie that goes over the event of the first two games and If they bothered to make Shenmue 3 look enticing for first-timers (Like discussing the combat, exploration, and the best bits about Shenmue), I'm sure many would pledge.
although it would be cool if a handful of extremely wealthy Shenmue fans were to lay some serious money down on it to push it to some insane record amountWould be a great moment if some impossibly rich Shenmue fan donates millions, minutes before the Kickstarter closes. :P
Would be a great moment if some impossibly rich Shenmue fan donates millions, minutes before the Kickstarter closes. :P
Is donating that much even possible in Kickstarter? I heard there is a cap.
Would be a great moment if some impossibly rich Shenmue fan donates millions, minutes before the Kickstarter closes. :P
Is donating that much even possible in Kickstarter? I heard there is a cap.
I've started up a game of Shenmue 2 on my 360. Only ever played through the game on my old Xbox, so I'm starting fresh.
Funding/budget statement by Yu Suzuki: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/posts/1273833 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/posts/1273833)I wonder how many gaming news sites/blogs will pick this up?
The story itself is nothing incredible. In fact, it's really quite old fashioned, but I think it shines in the way it tells it and through its characters.
It is also important to note that your funds are going strictly to Ys Net for development of Shenmue 3 – Sony and Shibuya Productions are not seeing a cent of your Kickstarter dollars.This is really important to know! Glad that he said it so simply that people won't misinterpret it.
Even if these Stretch Goals are not reached, Shenmue 3 will already be a sequel true to its name, and one we can all be proud of. It is my hope though, that together we can make this Shenmue just as revolutionary as the first two were.I hope this is also true. I don't want to get a super-gimped Shenmue III
Tweet him, maybe it'll happen! We already had one Dojoer Tweet at Cedric Biscay that he'd give $10k for another dinner, and Cedric replied that he'd check to see if it was possible!
Ever hear that KS story where someone donated thousands, only to find out it was fraudulent minutes before the time was up? Fucking destroyed these people's dreams.
This is really important to know! Glad that he said it so simply that people won't misinterpret it.
I hope this is also true. I don't want to get a super-gimped Shenmue III
No matter how many statements Suzuki makes, I feel like it's getting hopeless:
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Only $25.4k yestearday D:
That isn't unusual for kickstarters, its reaching the slow middle period... There will be an upswing in the last days. I think it'll finish around the 5 million mark.
I don't think Suzuki is too interested in bringing the game to Microsoft platforms. Didn't Microsoft screw over Shenmue 2 on Xbox or something? All I remember is Peter Molyneux got called a bastard by airport security one time because he was "the one who killed Shenmue." I dunno shit about the actual situation.
I also hear this is going to be digital, is that true?
I personally haven't pledged yet and don't plan to until the last few days. I want to see where it goes and if any better rewards are offered like a physical PS4 edition. I'm not surprised so few people have pledged...I mean...it's Shenmue. Most people don't even know what that is.
Microsoft bought the exclusivity to several SEGA games, including Shenmue II, for North America, and put them on Xbox. Thought they could get what marketshare SEGA had to move over and buy Xbox. And it was Peter Moore who made that deal, not Peter Molyneux.I was going to say, why would poor Molyneux get blamed for Shenners? Molyneux seems like a cool guy that loves making games but bites off more than he can chew. Then some hack journalist tore strips off him in some hatchet piece to try and save face and look like a grown up in the aftermath of GamerGate.
I don't think Suzuki is too interested in bringing the game to Microsoft platforms. Didn't Microsoft screw over Shenmue 2 on Xbox or something? All I remember is Peter Molyneux got called a bastard by airport security one time because he was "the one who killed Shenmue." I dunno shit about the actual situation.
As opposed to on vinyl?
Molyneux is the old Lionhead Studios Boss. You know the guy that continuously bs' about how awesome his games are?You leave him alone, his reach just exceeds his grasp.
I wish. Nah, wanted a physical copy, but digital will do.
You leave him alone, his reach just exceeds his grasp.
I don't recall physical PS4 version being ruled out. It is only not included as a Kickstarter reward, likely because specifics have not been worked out yet and they do not want to promise thousands of people physical PS4 copies before Sony has even confirmed a physical PS4 copy or worked out other details. Not to mention, its easier to promise a physical PC copy than it is to promise a physical PS4 copy.
My guess: We will see a physical PS4 copy, but it will not be confirmed until 6-8 months before the game is completed. Also, I could see there being a PS4 special edition with some physical goodies included.
Come on Mang, guy was talking about watching a tree grow in real time on the Xbox, a fucking tree!!
But still I don't get it. What answers are they expecting to hear? What exactly are they supossed to say?I can't blame them for being confused, some gaming websites are doing their absolute darndest to make this seem like a shady and deceptive Kickstarter deployed by a giant corporation to steal your money.
But still I don't get it. What answers are they expecting to hear? What exactly are they supossed to say?
These guys are having a laugh if they think its going to reach that high... 5million is a reasonable goal.
I'm still baffled so many people are hung up on Physical PS4 editions. It's 2015!
Microsoft bought the exclusivity to several SEGA games, including Shenmue II, for North America, and put them on Xbox... it was Peter Moore who made that deal...
Highlights of the stream:
4) Suzuki wants HD remasters of 1 & 2 before 3's release, but obviously SEGA owns it and Suzuki will talk to SEGA about it.
Same here, I get why people want it, but claiming it's the sole reason they're not backing until they announce a physical disc is garbage. You don't press a limited run of Blu-rays as an incentive, or commit to a physical release that can't guarantee to make a profit.
I'm going to pledge either way, but I'd prefer a physical PS4 edition. I don't want to go through the hassle of switching around my pledge if I pick a different option now and then that comes up later, y'know?
They really need to open this up to PayPal donations.
Dude, look at the bright side, Shenmue III is very much a reality. At this point, I don't care if those stretch goals aren't reached. If we get to 5 million so much the better, if not, we are still getting a Shenmue game out of it. (I'm still hoping for paid DLC for some of this stuff, tough)
And once that game is out, we'll make damn sure that it'll be profitable enough to get another sequel.
Anyway, two little tidbits:
Shenmue 3's offical Youtube Channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEO8dgJ3sbCU0dgZ7Eir92g/videos)
New update (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/posts/1278225) - Interview with the character artist for Shenmue.
I'ts not a reality at all . We've got some 2 years to wait and no sign of Shenmue getting anywhere near a Budget of $20 to 30 million. which is what Yu really needs imo at the bare level . I think SONY actions stink in all too, they're taking a lot of the credit for doing nothing and spending peanuts. I'm sure SONY have a funding limit of less than £1 million for indi/Kickstarter type games. .I doubt making it multi-platform will raise multi millions from kickstarter.
Yu Suzuki should make it multi-platform, it's the only way Shenmue III will ever get close to a million sales and show there's a market for Part IV to finish the story .
Unless you meant another publisher would pick it up, in which case I disagree with you. If fucking SONY won't fund it, who would? Certainly not Sega.
Finally someone agree's with me that Sony's E3 offerings were cheap. They ran Shenmue 3 and FFVII hype to death to save what little efforts they put into the show, it's a fucking disgrace.
Not sure how much money Sony will add to this game once it comes up short. It's a real shame, i'll still feel like we're not getting the "true" Shenmue everyone has been waiting for.
The way people are freaking out, you'd think all we're getting is a title screen followed by a brief text synopsis.Hey, if it has crappy voice acting I'm all for it.
The way people are freaking out, you'd think all we're getting is a title screen followed by a brief text synopsis.
Yeah, but the campaign is only "terrible" in comparison with what the ultrafans expect and believe to be possible. Back in the realm of objective reality, it's one of the most successful Kickstarter campaigns of all time.
Why is Portugese Subtitles a fucking stretch goal so high compared to the others?A NAÇÃO SUPERIOR
This was a bad campaign, it's succeeding DESPITE it, not because of it.
For me, his voice fitted Ryo perfectly. I think the dodgy script was to blame more then anything last time.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CI3d4zQUsAAdpvR.jpg)
The whole "Japanese version was better" myth has been going around for years in TV, anime and games. It's utter BS
Its no myth the USA/UK versions of Castlevania SOTN, Grandia and Shenmue are beyond afwul and terrible . Not like the class voice acting use for the Western versions of the likes of MGS, D2 (shame about the lip synch) Snacther, Lunar and so on .
Not only is the English dub a waste of time given Corey is one of the worst voice actors there is , is a waste money given the number of speaking parts in a Shenmue game .
That looks so much better!
Moody needs to update her Display Pic now.
I know you feel that way, but that's really a matter of conjecture... like I said, objectively, it's a record-setting success. That's simply a fact.
I know you feel that way, but that's really a matter of conjecture... like I said, objectively, it's a record-setting success. That's simply a fact.
Adding to what Mang said, Awesome Japan has only successful funded 6 out of 11 projects and managed to raise $66,000 in the process prior to Shenmue.
They really are over their heads, I think they've been lucky enough to get a chance to manage this project.
After this one I doubt they'll get many offers for future projects.
I doubt it, most people will see they managed Shenmue 3 and raised over $3 million and think that they're some sort of miracle workers. I mean we know how incompetent the management of this campaign has been but that's only because we're interested in it, somehow who has no idea will just look at the figures and think they're the perfect media management company.
I hope Suzuki takes the criticsms on the Kickstarter to heart and approaches this with a better group from here on. Shenmue doesn't deserve campaign managers this shoddy. My guess is they went with Awesome Japan because they were cheap. I imagine PR can get pretty expensive.
Well I mean, specifically going past the Kickstarter. Once it's over, they should hire somebody else, maybe not immediately, but definitely within a month after the campaign ends.
New rewards and a PS4 physical release announced!
Awesome Japan apologizes profusely in the latest project update:
"Apology from Awesome Japan
We offer our sincerest apologies for last week’s Twitch broadcast and any trouble it may have caused. This apology comes late, and we accept full responsibility. We promise we will do everything we can to help bring Shenmue back. We ask for your forgiveness and the opportunity to make amends. – from all of us at Awesome Japan"
BE A LUCKY HIT GAME BOARD - $4,000 Do you want to be a game of lucky hit? Get your face and name on an in-game Lucky Hit board.
BE A SHENMUE 3 NPC - $10,000 Your face will be featured on a Chi You Men member to do battle with Ryo! To maintain character setting, body style will be up to Mr. Suzuki. You will also be named as a Special Sponsor in the credits
We're breaking $4 million today!I don't mind if it's subtle, like the Chi You Men guy will still be 90% designed by Suzuki, but the face will be some guy.
I agree with Luke about the Lucky Hit thing, I never really like the "You can be in the game!" type rewards, give me an NPC that fits the game's universe instead please.
Shenmue 3 has broken $4 million! \O/ \O/ \O/ \O/
So far the campaign's managed to raise an additional $200,000! Amazing!
ALSO FUCK THIS TIER:
The previous one of being on a poster or in the waiting room is fine, it's a wanted poster or something who knows.
But why a fucking Lucky hit game board? that makes ZERO sense in the context of the game :/
I hate these kinds of rewards.
What the F***!?
*sigh* oh Kotaku. You're really are a joke.
You can't have the game just in Japanese
@sensonishikie: I always wondered how ryo , being Japanese, could communicate so easy in China. Can ryo speak Chinese? (https://twitter.com/sensonishikie/status/617169080601047040)Yu Suzuki: (https://twitter.com/yu_suzuki_jp/status/617174229792894980) Let’s not go there…
I put together a list of all the important answered questions regarding Shenmue 3 in our transcript thing:
http://segabits.com/blog/2015/07/04/yu-suzukis-twitter-qa-check-out-our-complete-transcript/
Is there a round up for the Q and A? I'm sad that I missed it.
That stupid article criticizing the Placeholder art for the physical PS4 copy?
does Yu Suzuki not see a limit is needed?
The Twitter Q&A left me a bit unsure now that I'm looking at it. "More then 11 chapter" ...does Yu Suzuki not see a limit is needed? We don't need branching stories etc.
Wait, he means things like back story etc and not the main story? If so, then I'm fine with that. I thought he was saying the main plot will keep going and going...
Crazy (Petty?) Shenmue fan digging up 2 year old tweets from me and then blocking me when I come back with a retort.
Such a fanatical fanbase haha.
Just a little more cash and we will get that Extra Quest for Bailu Village. Come on!
Til: My recap is better than the official and put up faster. Go me.
Two brothers have pledged $20K to Shenmue 3 in order to spread awareness concerning underprivileged Chinese schools.
[/size]As detailed in a Shenmue Dojo forum post (http://www.shenmuedojo.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=48235), the brothers explained that they run a school in China under the Volunteer English Teacher (V.E.T.) program (http://www.vet-china.org/index.html) and figured this extravagant donation to a video game set in China would help spread awareness about the organisation and what it does.
[/size]The brothers noted that the V.E.T. program teaches English to both children and young adults. "Many of these kids come from small villages in the Guilin area and may not have an opportunity to learn elsewhere," they explained.
[/size]"We could have given $20,000 directly to building the school and it's programs but we feel that this pledge will lead to more exposure and support than what we could do through other mediums," the brothers said of this unusual business decision.
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S3 WORLD TELECOM - $80 Get an international phone card (in-game item) to call Nozomi, Guizhang Chen, Ine-san, Joy, Fuku-san, or other characters from Shenmue 1 & 2. This item will unlock phone conversations and flashback scenes available only to Kickstarter Backers. Keep your friends close with S3 World Telecom. $60 Reward included.
SHENMUE PATRON - $800 In the oriental tradition of marking a pilgrimage to a temple by affixing one's name to the building, your name will appear on a Choubu temple in Chinese characters. The Chinese characters for your name will be approved by Yu Suzuki himself. Find your name tag on the temple and receive a special Technique Scroll! + Receive a PDF of your name in Chinese characters as it will appear in the game. Be part of the culture that is the world of Shenmue. $500 Reward included.
80 bucks to call virtual people? Hot damn! I wonder if they're gonna get back the original actors, or if this'll made available in some fashion to non-backers (it sounds like a great deal of content to lock off to only certain people).
Can we prank call Goro?
Shenmue500k follower count: 52.4k
Shenmue III Kickstarter backer count: 51.5k
Hmmmm.... and let's not ignore the fact that 500k is so far from that number...
Jokes on them, I don't even follow them but I backed Shenmue.
I am the 1%.
I'd imagine a TON of the backers don't follow them, which makes their follower count vs. backer total even worse.
DREAMS COME TRUE - $1,400[/size] Choose one of three wishes. Your name and birth date will be written on a traditional wishing plaque to be displayed at a temple in Bailu Village. Find your plaque and your wish will come true! This is Kickstarter only exclusive! Includes the $500 Reward.[/color]
[/size]TEMPLE OF THE BLOOMING FLOWER - $1,200 [/color][/size]Get a Chinese character of your choice (or specially selected for you) to represent yourself, drawn in ornate calligraphy. Find your character displayed at the Temple of the Blooming Flower and get a special Technique Scroll! + Get the physical, hand-drawn calligraphy of your character! Includes the SHENMUE PATRON Reward.[/color]
That would be crazy Mademan.If you can and it wouldn't be too much of a strain on your wallet then I think it's deffo worth the price I would kill for my name in the game, I just cannot afford it.
Anyway check this out, Yu Suzuki posted it today it's the floor plan for 'Bird Dance Hostel 1st floor' in Choubu one of the Shenmue 3 towns... This gets me weirdly excited, far more excited than a floor plan for a fictional location has any right to get someone excited... I think it just brings back that whole concept of Shenmue's complex world.
I'll say it again to be a game worthy of the Shenmue heritage , The Team need around $30 to 40 million dollars. I'll really start to look forward to Shenmue III then
They need to tone down the "Get yourself in the game!" rewards. I fear it may compromise the authenticity Shenmue is known for...
I'm going to say $5.65mil. (Hoping for much more, but that's my conservative prediction.)Just a bit before hitting the Advanced Free Battle stretch goal? That will rustle my jimmies, hard.
I'm curious as to why paypal hasn't appeared yet. There's so many people who can't back it due to extreme bank charges outside of America.
Aaaaand one of the $10kers backed out. Troll.
You cannot, after the kickstarter ends the funds are sent to YS Net, so technically YS Net doesn't have any funding until the kickstarter ends.
I think Yu Suzuki said he was going to have a paypal up to donate after the Kickstarter was done, but probably won't have tiers like the Kickstarter rewards that are up right now.
They bloody better set up a paypal! I want to back this, but my bank will charge me a fortune as it's overseas if I do. I know I'm not the only one in this situation too.What shitty bank is this
They all go under the same umbrella, so it doesn't really matter which one, but they've deliberately kept the cost hard to find. A mate of mine said he ordered something for £40 and he got a £32 overseas charge!wow here in portugal the charge is like.. 2 euro? At most?
Someone earlier was asking about Yu Suzuki's paintings, there's been one posted on the update:
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Sorry for the double-post... But Shenmue III has now earned more money than f***ing Bloodstained! Finally, f*** all the nay-sayers who have bitched and moaned over how much better that KS campaign was handled and bla, bla, bla, bla, f*** you!
Sorry for the double-post... But Shenmue III has now earned more money than f***ing Bloodstained! Finally, f*** all the nay-sayers who have bitched and moaned over how much better that KS campaign was handled and bla, bla, bla, bla, f*** you!
You do know that this still doesn't negated the fact that this KS was terribly handled and they could've made much more money than this? Bloodstained was a complete nothing as far as new game concept went, a game from a niche as fuck game genre, at that. When it was announced, everyone was expecting it to scrape only 1mil because all the factors were similar to a bunch of past projects. It only got as much money as it did cause how fucking well executed it was.
The only smart idea Shenmue's KS had was revealing it at Sony's E3's conference. They have a laundry list of screw ups ever since the reveal.
If anything this is a testament of Shenmue's presence in the game community of today. But fuck, they could have actually reached those 10 mil if they actually tried. Actually, blowing their load and saying that 10 million was the intended number they wanted while they hadn't even reached 4 mil was a terrible idea.
Fuck, if they actually added paypal from the start like they should have, they would have broken the record weeks ago and I wouldn't be worrying about the combat system being upgraded or not.
gripe gripe gripe
Just upped my pledge from $500 to $600. I think I can even manage more after some figuring!
The final hours of the Kickstarter! This seems appropriate for times like this...I see your Final Countdown and I raise you with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw)
Man, https://twitter.com/PG_jp sure seems salty about Shenmue 3 earning $6M+
Confused as to why it couldn't be completed as a book, suggesting people should back No Mans Sky over Shenmue 3 because.... indie? I don't know. Guy is sounding like an idiot.
Why did so many people see Jurassic World this summer when they could have gone to six small indie films instead? Because the t-rex, like Ryo's journey, is a bigger draw.
I understand sort of where he is coming from, but it almost seems that the dude doesn't grasp the whole reason people gave the studio money. I get that he thinks 'big' Japanese developers have taken over Kickstarter and have been basically robbing the place blind without contributing new ideas (or so he thinks, we don't know what some of these games will offer).
We had a Mega Man 'clone', we have another one for legends, another one for Bloodstained (aka Castlevania) that broke records and now Shenmue 3.
I get that, but does he understand that indies have been keeping alive by copying these dudes works? How many indie games ripped off a game by Yu Suzuki? Right now retro racing games are in, there was even a light gun shooter that was on there not too long ago.
He assumes Kickstarter is started to help indies develop games, but it really wasn't. IT was made for people that don't have other ways of funding a project to fund it. Anyone, including someone like Yu Suzuki, who has over 30 years in the gaming industry, then don't.
I find it funny that instead of addressing issues with why indie games aren't getting as much funding as Shenmue 3, he just decides to attack it. Sounds like he should take that attitude and turn around to work on another half thought out licensed game like Korra or the new Transformers.
Not the same, but they've just released the ringtone on ios. Perhaps more funds or SEGA playing with the IP?what ringtone?
Shenmue ringtone on ios: https://twitter.com/SST_V/status/623686139740712960/photo/1
I don't see anything saying it's YSNet, I see the SEGA name more than once on here. It's copyrighted by them, and I'm guessing by the formatting, they published this on the store. So I'm gonna say it's SEGA.I can confirm the ringtone is on the SEGA appstore page.
Now the real question is, will westerners get this ringtone?
*plays dramatic music*
Hm...what are they up to I wonder. :)
Probably just making a quick buck on some ringtones while Shenmue is in the papers.
Isn't the whole reason they can't release the games in HD remasters because of some copyright red-tape that will never get solved in a million years?
True or not, finding the license holders is doable... If SEGA could track down all the licenses of the JSR music then I'm sure they can do it with Shenmue... The real question is, do they think it's worth the effort.
I would sell my body and soul to SEGA...Do it, faggot.
And it should be noted that outside of allowing Suzuki to use the IP, SEGA has nothing to do with the release.I knew it was not being published by Sega. I just didn't know Sega was uninvolved completely. Thought they would at least hire a few people from Sega. Is Yu Suzuki going to be sued for this? Because, I really would love to play the new game. It sounds superb.
I heard rumors that PayPal will be accepted on the 17th, is this true?
The Paypal thingie is online now, features extra rewards:
http://shenmue.link/order/ (http://shenmue.link/order/)
I could say better late than ever but this shit should've been up and running while the campaign was still up.
Hey! Let's talk about how shitty that PayPal campaign has been. In a little over a week, they have raised $34,773. Okay, so that is a fair amount. That is a year's salary for some. But at $6,368,068 we are just scratching the surface of $6.4 and the next stretch goal isn't until $6.5. Are they even campaigning to bring on more backers, or are they sitting back and letting whatever happens happen?
I think the Paypal is mainly for people who were for whatever reason unable to donate to the Kickstarter, I doubt that much is expected from it or that major effort will be put it into it; the studio is likely busy developing the game, afterall.
They must be expecting something more than what they're making given they carried over the street goals. Just my take anyway.
Heeft iedereen herinneren wanneer Regalsin besloten dat de nieuwe game moet in slechts Nederlands?
Anyway, Is 2017 the release date? I'm kind of excited about the game. Also, will it be released on PC?
I'm not sure why, but till I get this in my hands, I feel really uneasy about it finishing production.Same here. SEGA at the time had an incredible team working on the game. SEGA pretty much had some of the best teams under their name. Nowadays its rare to see even the big developers come close to the stuff SEGA has done(well even they themselves). It really depends on Yu Suzuki and whether he still got it in him to lead a team in the right direction. <-- This is me keeping my expectations in check. But man, im still glad shenmue 3 is even a thing.
I just...I dunno. Maybe because it's because it literally is a dream come true. It's rare. It's like I'm expecting something to stop it.
It's not that I don't think they can't as such. I just think something will come up. Like I said, I'm hoping it's just a case of me still not believing it's finally happening.Ah like that. Yeah while it has all sinked in, it is still quite unbelievable. I think we caught the game right from the start of its development. I think its gonna be a long wait unless they decide to make it episodic... Unlikely perhaps since many already backed a full priced boxed game.
If something does happen of course, I really wouldn't want to be in Suzuki's shoes. It'll probably end his career.
ere's my take on it: I don't expect this to be Duke Nukem Forever. Even at that time. DNF was considered a joke. The Shenmue never achieved that status, I'm expecting a good action adventure game. Heck, it doesn't need to be a 10/10 game. Just a very good gam
Same here. SEGA at the time had an incredible team working on the game. SEGA pretty much had some of the best teams under their name. Nowadays its rare to see even the big developers come close to the stuff SEGA has done(well even they themselves).
SEGA had the best , but that was a diffrent SEGA and working on your own Hardware made a world of difference to SEGA. Even if all the staff were still at SEGA HQ, I'm not sure it would be like the old days
Yeah, now that the game is actually in production, anxiety kicks in. I've had conversations with some of my best buds, also rabbid Shenmue fans and the question - Will it actually be good? - has become a recurring one
Here's my take on it: I don't expect this to be Duke Nukem Forever. Even at that time. DNF was considered a joke. The Shenmue never achieved that status, I'm expecting a good action adventure game. Heck, it doesn't need to be a 10/10 game. Just a very good game.
People really like to shit down the throats of publishers like SEGA and Konami when they refuse to fund projects that they enjoy. Especially when said companies are burnt out of millions of dollars.
Talking about 'delaying', look at Mighty No. 9 fans, the team has delayed it to release a better product and everyone shit on them for months... I wonder why publishers do the same thing....
Assuming the game is intended for a Jan / Feb 2017 release, moar actual gameplay material is needed.
I believe Seaman outsold Shenmue over there.Wher iz SEMAN 3 SEGA ??!?!?
Yeah Studio Fake never amounted to anything didn't it...he seems to understand tech well, given how he programmed the Saturn ports of Virtua Fighter and so on.
I'd love to see how Suzuki will tackle the "aftermath" chapter of this epic storyline.Shin-miu IIII when SayGa!?
What about the aftermath of IV?? We need the V
Man, they haven't give an update on Shenmue 3 since last X-mas. Getting a little nervous...
I wonder if everyone will have to play and understand the story of the first two games in order to understand the third...
The new update felt a bit weak. It's great to see them talking about these topics, but it didn't really show or say much about Shenmue III.
No Shenmue III at E3: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1381884
How is it a shock at all.
It bugs me how people want the game to fail so badly, they hang on to anything..
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The lack of an update at E3 doesn't really bother me as it would require a seperate build being made for the media resulting in less money and time for the final product. Plus, it's not like they're being silent of the development of Shenmue 3 anyway.
It should for a game meant to ship in December 2017. E3 Is a trade show when you're meant to show off your stuff to the world and Shenmue III is not there and so far all we've seen from the game is little clips, next to no actual real gameplay. Feel so sorry for Yu GOD Suzuki he's been let down by both SEGA and SONY who both really should be working and funding the whole project
I don't think Yu's been let down really. Sony provided a platform and is apparently marketing the game, while Sega have given them assets and the green light (from what I've heard). I just think targeting 2017 for release was just too soon. The kickstarter hadn't even ended so they didn't know the size of the project and regardless of industry, there's always delays.
The funding is a tricky one. I can understand why Sega felt unsure about pumping more money into another game, but I don't think that's a vaild reason to have just completely ignored it like they have for so long. They spent years just ignoring it even existed.
Can only see the game getting canned or if it makes it out, a sequel that doesn't and can't possibly live up to fans expectations given its workforce and budget which is simply not enough for an IP like Shenmue which was AAA in every sense of the word
They could just have 1 and 2 on PSN. :) And you want to talk about older games running on older computers, there's Saturn games on PSN too. Saturn games that I played on my Windows 98 and Windows XP.
My only real concern (it's minor) is the character models so far. Everything else has been as expected, but they really seem to be struggling with capturing the look of Ryo.
Why are you so sure? Back in the day, Shenmue was triple A, but times have changed and the technology now allows for so much more to be done with just a few lines of code and the assets.
Yeah, that's neogaf though. Great for news, awful for hyperbole. The other games you mention might share the same concepts such as being open world, but as we've seen and heard, Shenmue is different in it's execution. I see no reason to suspect they won't release this game and it'll probably get reviews all over the shop just like other kickstarter games. But just like Yooka-Laylee, those who actually play it enjoyed it for what it is.
I mean look at the new Character in Shenmue III, he looks like he should be in Street Fighter V and not in Shenmue.
C'Mon most games cost huge amounts of money, sure middleware takes care of the need to build an engine or sound and physics tools. But when you're making a game that meant to be real as possible and create a living and breathing world that takes an army of art and modeling staff alone. One only needs to look at Yakuza credits for that, never mind what Ubi and 2K come up with
And you're right we have moved on and Shenmue III is coming against SEGA own Yakuza, never mind Ubisoft open world games and 2k Red Dead II or GTA V . Can almost see the kicking this game will get on the likes of NeoGAF.
Nah, he looks like he fits right in with the street fighters and arm wrestlers from Shenmue II, except with a contemporary polygonHe doesn't look real and the body seems totally blown up and out of proportion, it looks like a Street Fighter V model imo
I don't care if it gets bad reviews, I just want to see the rest of the story in this lifetime.
And yet Kingdom Hearts had the same graphics until KH3. :p Honestly it doesn't bother me at all. It looks nice enough.
This is just a snapshot of the divide in the Shenmue community, where you have one group of people saying "Shenmue was the most photorealistic game ever created!!! I remember how real it looked to me as a teenager!!!" and another group of people who are saying "Shenmue has always been detailed, yet very stylized."
What do you think, Cool Z?
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/shenmue/images/4/48/Cool_J_Z.png/revision/latest?cb=20160210173117)
. I mean, for all it's realism, let's not forget this game was clearly inspired by 80s films in tone and action at times.
TA is overreacting. Nothing from the development team says that they are in trouble and that there is no hope for a game. The December 2017 date was too soon and I think they knew that for a while. From the dev videos, we see that they are working hard on a game, and that they are well into modeling characters and locations. If they say second half of 2018, I'll trust them on that until we see otherwise.
TA is overreacting. Nothing from the development team says that they are in trouble and that there is no hope for a game. The December 2017 date was too soon and I think they knew that for a while. From the dev videos, we see that they are working hard on a game, and that they are well into modeling characters and locations. If they say second half of 2018, I'll trust them on that until we see otherwise.Maybe they meant December of 2018.
Keep in mind the advances in tech since the original Shenmue development period. Suzuki stated that the issue of animating the phone cord, or the chain in the handcuffs, were significant challenges at that time. Today things like that are solved issues. UE4 is a robust, well-supported engine. Envirnomental design tools are in place, lighting and atmosphere have established workflows so the issue now is more focused on pure art direction rather than building something to take on these tasks for the first time. It's almost like the tech has advanced to the point where it can facilitate a game like Shenmue that was so far ahead of its own time. Suzuki stated in the message announcing the delay that the game is turning out to be bigger and more beautiful than he had initially expected.
I do . Shenmue II was made in 2 years and for all the wonders that are middleware Shenmue III been delayed and its not like games takes years to make even with outside middleware and engines.
Yu is GOD to me, nobody in the industry will ever come close. He was, still is and will always be a hero to me and a person that I worshiped back in my younger mad SEGA days . Don't doubt his talent or that he can't make a great Shenmue III. I just worry about the money and lack of staff myself
-we're seeing the first signs of this project going to shit with Deep Silver (project was supposed to be published by Sony and Shibuya Industries, now that seems to have gone out the door)
Sony has never been the publisher. They have stated they are offering support in development and marketing (e.g., an advertisement that also features the Playstation logo). As for Shibuya being replaced as a publisher, Deep Silver is a big step up from Shibuya, who has very little publishing experience and not much pull to get shelf space in retail locations. Deep Silver has been doing a good job publishing Sega titles in Europe.
There has been good games from Kickstarter. Broken Sword was a return back to it's roots, the complaints about Yooka Laylee were just dumb - the main one being it's just like the old N64 platformers...well, yeah. That's exactly what they pitched, so that's a silly complaint to me. Dreamfall Chapters was good, Shovel Night apparently is too. Not Kickstater, but the same idea of raising the funds have also seen hits in Project Cars and from what we've seen so far, Psychonauts 2 is coming along nicely.
I'm not saying you can't have good Kickstarters, I'm talking along the lines of Shenmue III's kickstarter. The developer returning to the craft that made them a success type. Keiji Inafune with 2D jump-n-shoot with MN9, Tim Shafer with graphic adventure gaming with Broken Age, Rare alumni with early-era 3D platformers with Yooka-Laylee, and Koji Igarashi with Metroidvania and Bloodstained. Kickstarter games can be really good, it's just that there hasn't been a huge critical success out of this specific type of Kickstarter.
The media have already decided what they think of Shenmue and we saw a taste of it with all the negative news during the kickstarter. Don't expect it to be pretty once the game has been released. Personally, I think the media in this industry is so bad I stay away and ignore it.
Talking about kickstarter...
I think if Shenmue III only just reached it's original goal, I doubt we'd get it in anything other then a Telltale type of game or maybe only just past the first village at best. It was quite risky really.
It's all the typical negative stuff and the usual clickbait nonsense from "journalists". The word journalists has little meaning nowadays though as it's become completely different to what it actually means. They've lost the ability to distance their opinion from the infomation they've been given to pass on to their audience and added their own take or use out of context paragraphs to form a clickbait headline. What these idiots don't realise or care about though, is it can be quite harmful to the company or the product in terms of sales or public opinion. They then cry when said company blacklists them for their own stupidity.
Reviewers have gone to the gutter too. Remember when people first started to worry about video reviews taking over written versions? Well, the whole argument in favour for it was people can see gameplay while hearing a review. That is probably true to some extent, but what I think really happened was the publications stopped taking control of what was written. In magazines, reviews had limited space and characters so they had to give you as much infomation as possible about a game in about 3-500 words and it was great. Now though, they just throw a wall of text at you on a web page with some going over 3000+ words...I've read some of them and learnt nothing about a game.
The shorter reviews full of infomation that we used to get in magazines simply moved to under 10 minute video reviews instead. We still get some good written reviews, but it's becoming rare now. Segabits do them well and here's another example: http://www.thejimquisition.com/crash-bandicoot-n-sane-trilogy-review/
I think this is a case of pessimism over a game with expectations people need to tone down.
My only gripes with the footage are that the facial animation is lacking to the point of uncanny valley, and the rumors that this footage is a year or more old. If that's the case...why? Why show such old footage? Is it the only polished pieces they have?
To me, that says that either they're too focused on game development to focus on stuff like making up-to-date PR materials, or they're moving too slow to make PR materials. It's difficult to tell at this point which is which.
I will say, imo, the decrying of the human models is overly exaggerated. The best way I've found to put the visuals in this trailer is that it looks very Shenmue. Environments and lighting are on point, non-fighting animations look a little wonky while the fighting animations clearly have a ton of effort put in, and human models generally look a little cartoony and exaggerated. These are all things the trailer has in common with the original games. It's difficult to say whether they're just unwilling to evolve on those weakpoints or if they're trying to stay true to the originals.
Either way, I'm more than happy that this is possibly how the game looked a year ago. Can't wait to see what it looks like now!
(As a side-note, using year old footage in your first trailer in two years does nothing to dissuade your detractors. The uphill battle continues...)
So, it's exactly as anyone with the ability to think thought.
I still think what people were expecting based on the amount raised is a little out of touch. People think that a few million dollars somehow can afford a top notch team for years of work?
Nope. That's just passive-aggressive behavior to shut down an argument.
I still think what people were expecting based on the amount raised is a little out of touch. People think that a few million dollars somehow can afford a top notch team for years of work?
It's also WIP footage. Stuff is subject to change. That's standard operation procedure. I also don't think Yu's team wants to pull a Aliens: Colonial Marines on us. They've been consistent with updates, there's work being done and we are going to get this game. And if we get a fourth game after this... so much the better.
Now, having said that, as a crowdfunding tool, Kickstarter has lost all it's steam, methinks. Hence why there's more skepticism about it. Shenmue 3 is likely the last major game to have KS as a tool for funding.
It's also WIP footage. Stuff is subject to change. That's standard operation procedure. I also don't think Yu's team wants to pull a Aliens: Colonial Marines on us.
Remember when SEGA showed off the 1st screens shots of Shenmue real time running on a DC ? The models didn't look worse but almost the same to the final build. So what gives why are the Shenmue III looking so terrible when it comes to their eyes and faces , they really should be better, I mean that new Character fighting with Ryu looks like the Joker out of Batman.
Feell sorry for Yu and the Shenmue IP. It is done on the cheap and its showing. There's a saying 'be careful what you wish for, because sometimes it comes true'
Remember when SEGA showed off the 1st screens shots of Shenmue real time running on a DC ? The models didn't look worse but almost the same to the final build. So what gives why are the Shenmue III looking so terrible when it comes to their eyes and faces , they really should be better, I mean that new Character fighting with Ryu looks like the Joker out of Batman.
Feell sorry for Yu and the Shenmue IP. It is done on the cheap and its showing. There's a saying 'be careful what you wish for, because sometimes it comes true'
- Pinball, punching ball and whac-a-mole as mini games.
- The new QTE system consists of QTEs based on "sounds" and "lights".
source: http://www.jeuxvideo.com/news/700176/gamescom-2017-shenmue-3-souhaite-moderniser-son-heritage.htm (http://www.jeuxvideo.com/news/700176/ga)
- According Julo from Gameblog, YSnet got a technical issue with a build of the game two months ago and it lead them to disable the facial animation in the trailer.
I also agree with them on the logo. I prefered the old one to this one with a giant S and with Barry on how boring the internet hyperbole is over everything is becoming. Neogaf is a cesspit for this with it's users dramatising over every little thing.
Anyways, anyone know if they'll be featuring any SEGA Arcades like the previous ones?
I've never played Shenmue 2. I've had it on XBOX for probably 8 years, but never got around to it... Yeah, i know it's bad.
I've never played Shenmue 2. I've had it on XBOX for probably 8 years, but never got around to it... Yeah, i know it's bad.
If you do ever get around to it, you should absolutely strive to play it on original hardware. Running it on 360 is just not recommended due to the myriad of bugs that disable whole features of presentation and content. I've played through the whole game on Xbox, and aside from one crash from a very long game session, it works flawlessly. I can't say the same for playing it on 360.
Of course you could also emulate or burn the Dreamcast version, unless you're okay playing exorbitant prices for a legit copy.
https://www.alza.co.uk/shenmue-1-2-pack?dq=4661678 (https://www.alza.co.uk/shenmue-1-2-pack?dq=4661678)
It's likely nothing, but there it is.
If you do ever get around to it, you should absolutely strive to play it on original hardware. Running it on 360 is just not recommended due to the myriad of bugs that disable whole features of presentation and content. I've played through the whole game on Xbox, and aside from one crash from a very long game session, it works flawlessly. I can't say the same for playing it on 360.
Of course you could also emulate or burn the Dreamcast version, unless you're okay playing exorbitant prices for a legit copy.
Thing is though importing it from Japan means it's in all Japanese. :) Unless you can understand it. In which case, pay my comment no mind.XBOX version was released in the US, so it's in full english.
:D YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
George just posted this Dev update video, what do you guys think?
I agree with George that it didn't seem like a necessary video. Would've liked to see more than 1 minutes worth of content.
Well, they committed to at least one update a month and they're basically making these short videos to honor that commitment without devoting too much time and resources to making them. For better or worse they're honest glimpses at the work in progress, so in that regard I appreciate them. However, a lot of people don't seem to be able to differentiate between the concept of work in progress and what they expect a finished, polished product to look like.
All physical releases will be available for pre-order starting November 20 from Limited Run Games and BigWax (for European customers).
The core voice cast from the games will return in the anime.
Also though he’s listed as an executive producer, Yuu Suzuki describes his position more as a “supervisor on the world-building”.
For example, making sure Ryo doesn’t pick up a knife to fight, or that a particular character would or wouldn’t say a particular thing.
Suzuki will also ensure there is a sense of urgency portrayed throughout the series.
Yes, it is official, Shenmue III will be released on Steam this November 19th.
Game and in-game rewards codes will be available for PC version backers who manually selected the Steam opt-in through the survey during the September/October 2019 survey resend period.
Applicable backers will be able to claim their codes through the “Downloads and Download Codes” section of your survey.
For our upcoming Shenmue III OST, we teamed up with original Shenmue artist Kenji Miyawaki to create a brand new illustration exclusively available with the complete OST.
100% Unofficial Shenmue fan magazine, including Music CD, Eric Kelso Signed Print, A3 Poster and more!
By the fans, for the fans.
Hello everyone! I never expected that after just over 24 hours of being live here on Kickstarter, we would already have smashed past the intended goal!
That is actually mind blowing to me, but it just goes to reinforce the passion and drive that Shenmue fans have always shown.
I will keep you all updated on the process and progress as we go through the remaining days.
I may also have another small surprise planned if any extra funds allow it :).
On this episode we discuss the 1999 SEGA Dreamcast classic Shenmue!
George and Barry discuss the game’s history, the many innovative gameplay features and our own experiences playing the game.
Only 3,000 copies will be made.
Priced at $149.99, the Complete Edition includes the base game with all downloadable content on the disc, a Dreamcast jewel case, a welcome card from Hotel Niaowu, Chobu Chan and Bailu Chan figurines, a Bailu Herb map, Golden Goose VIP card, Sword of Seven Stars replica, nad five character posters, all housed in a special box.
Previously, a minor update was released with various bug fixes.
Unfortunately, many players are still experiencing several issues while playing the game.
Today’s Shenmue 3 version 1.06 update is expected to fix a few of these issues.
Continuing our monthly series, we're happy to announce the Top Releases of November.
As a reminder, we showcase the Top 20 titles released during the month, measured by the revenue generated during the first two weeks after release.
We also highlight the Top 5 free-to-play titles, based on number of unique players they acquired.
According to Adult Swim/Cartoon Network’s Creative Director @Clarknova1, Shenmue: The Animation “will definitely NOT release in 2021.”
Meaning that TMS tweet was probably deleted for the obvious mistake.
LemonHaze, Patrick J. Fuller, former Lan Di voice actor Paul Lucas, and former Ren voice actor Eric Kelso came together to create a Shenmue 3 mod that brings both performers back to the two roles.
With help from Peter Campbell, James “SkillJim” Brown, and Jibby, the group created two versions of the mod that restores the characters’ original voices.
Kyoutou Kotoba RPG Kotodaman is a free-to-play RPG published by Sega for Android and iOS devices on April 16, 2018.
Numerous Sega characters are featured as part of a crossover collaboration including Sonic, Ulala, and Ryo Hazuki as guest playable characters.
The Steam Golden Week sale is here!
Feeling bored? Get up to 85% off amazing titles like Shenmue I & II, Puyo Puyo Tetris, Binary Domain, Yakuza 0, Sonic Mania, Shining Resonance Refrain, and many more.
Offer ends 7 May 2021.
The Jet Set Radio, Shenmue, and Yakuza Tubbz ducks are all expected to ship sometime in July 2021.
All three of these ducks won’t leave you with a big bill.
The pre-order price at Just Geek is $14.99/£12.99/€15,61.
Also there is Exclusive notes from a July 2001 meeting between Xbox and SEGA discussing SegaNet and Xbox Live!
The full document is available to our Patreon supporters at any tier!
Read the EXCLUSIVE meeting notes here.
I really should get round to playing Shenmue sometime. I have all three games on Steam. It's just I just Shenmue III won't have any Sonic figurines and that be a downer for me.
I tried to play Shenmue again, but the control feels awkward now.Just as there is a "BetterSADX" mod, maybe there is mods for shenmue to give it it's fixes.
Even control in Balan Wonderworld feels smoother than Shenmue.
Or may be I just don't have the patience like I used to have.
"Segapocalypse!
Wave Master, the company that manages Sega's music, has contacted me and asked me to remove lots of albums related to Sega.
At the end of the day, over 500 albums were removed, including Sonic, OutRun, and others.
Unfortunately, this even included fan made compilation albums for games that have no commercial releases, which, quite frankly, makes absolutely no sense.
If you were wondering why some albums have disappeared on the site, this is why."
According to some interviews, Shenmue the Animation will also use unused script ideas Yu Suzuki had that never made it into the Dreamcast originals.
This will give older fans a reason to tune into the show when it finally airs sometime in 2022.
Adult Swim releases Shenmue the Animation First Look TrailerGotta wait 'til 2022? Aww. As long as it doesn't get hold up again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZglZdwRw3XA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZglZdwRw3XA)
Article : http://segabits.com/blog/2021/10/07/adult-swim-releases-shenmue-the-animation-first-look-trailer/ (http://segabits.com/blog/2021/10/07/adult-swim-releases-shenmue-the-animation-first-look-trailer/)
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Contrary to popular belief, Shenmue 2 in the United States was not canceled because of the Xbox version, Microsoft did not buy its exclusivity on American soil. Sega of America felt it was just too late to release it
Sega Europe took the risk of publishing it. We were on the verge of cancellation on European and American territory. Without this decision of SOE, Shenmue 2 would have remained confined to Japan and would never have been able to have a classic Xbox version.
Microsoft was interested because the localization work was already done, a recycling of the canceled Us DC version !!!
Epic Games’ annual holiday sale is now live, and in addition to offering some nice discounts on many titles, the company will also be giving away 15 free games.
Epic is also bringing back the Epic Coupon, which gives you $10 off games that cost more than $14.99.
The upcoming Shenmue Th Animation is set to premiere next month! February 5th, it has been announced by Adult Swim and Crunchyroll.
The series will run for 13 episodes that follows our hero Ryo Hazuki through the story of the first game and part of the sequel.
Ryo Hazuki voiced by Masaya Matsukaze (Japanese) and Austin Tindle (English)
Lan Di voiced by Takahiro Sakurai (Japanese) and Scott Gibbs (English)
Shenhua voiced by Natalie Rial (English)
Nozomi Harasaki voiced by Cat Thomas (English)
Guizhang Chen voiced by Jeremy Gee (English)
Chai – voiced by Greg Ayres (English)
Wong voiced by Bryson Baugus (English)
Joy voiced by Luci Christian (English)
Xiuying Hong voiced by Christine Auten (English)
Ren voiced by Cody House (English)
Dou Niu voiced by Joe Daniels (English)
Haruka Terui as Shenhua
Haruka Fushimi as Nozomi Harusaki
Ryūichi Kijima as Guizhang Chen
Rock band Narudora performs the ending theme song "Sympathy."
Why have a Shenday when you can have a SHENMONTH?
All February long we will be releasing Shenmue content including two SEGA Talk episodes and a LIVE after show discussing the premiere of Shenmue the Animation.
You bring 100 Yen and we'll bring the entertainment.
February 2022 is SEGABits' SHENMONTHWhy is Feb Shenmonth?
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Source : https://twitter.com/SEGAbits/status/1484554480213450754 (https://twitter.com/SEGAbits/status/1484554480213450754)
Why is Feb Shenmonth?
Are you ready?
Shenmue The Animation from Adult Swim and Crunchyroll premieres tonight at 12:30
"To celebrate the release of Shenmue the Animation on Adult Swim and Crunchyroll this Saturday,
we’ve added four Shenmue emoji to the SEGA Forever Discord server!
Are you ready?It's finally out, I get to watch it.
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Link : https://t.co/gaqTB3AN00 (https://t.co/gaqTB3AN00)
It's finally out, I get to watch it.
SEGA Talk returns to the world of Shenmue, this time talking about the legendary SEGA-AM2 title, Shenmue II!
We cover the development, talk about cut content, original ideas behind the game and even discuss a PS2 rumored port?
The story is a bit compressed, which is understandable given how many hours to look for barbers and sailours. Still looking forward to see how it goes.I haven't had time, but kinda glad that some of friends on Facebook gave it a positive reviews.
Edit : finally watched it. It's passable, I guess. Better than I expected.
I like the Japanese VAs and the ending song.
Still hopefully there will be new things they'll add to the anime later,
things that are not from the game story (that we already knew).
The story is a bit compressed, which is understandable given how many hours to look for barbers and sailours. Still looking forward to see how it goes.
Forget to tell my favorite thing of the anime... Ryo's laughing face... How rare is that...Did he even had one in the games?
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Did he even had one in the games?
Not in Shenmue 1. The closest one is in Shenmue 3 :It's like one of those audio-animatronics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4BNs-YeQho (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4BNs-YeQho)
On our Shenmue The Animation After Show, we discuss the second episode of the anime which includes some major changes, expanded storylines to some key characters and even a change in Ryo’s motivation?
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Episode 3 and we're nearly at the end of the first game.
Now I wonder if first season will capture all three Shenmue games, so that season 2 could be a brand new story.How many numbers of episodes is Season 1? If it's six episodes they'll probably draw it out on the last three.
How many numbers of episodes is Season 1? If it's six episodes they'll probably draw it out on the last three.
It was announced to be 13 episodes back then.Well if it's 3-4 episodes per game they could drag out the entire series to 13 episodes.
Finally! SEGA Talk covers the long awaited sequel to 2001’s Shenmue II – Shenmue III!
We discuss the ups and downs of the Kickstarter campaign, the new gameplay elements and the future of the franchise.
Our Shenmue The Animation, The After Show is back! This time we cover the third episode of the Adult Swim/Crunchyroll adaptation of SEGA’s cult classic game Shenmue!
This time we get introduced to Chen, a new looking Goro and more!
Lisle Wilkerson voiced Joy and Yuan in Shenmue II, Sarah Bryant in Virtua Quest and Virtua Fighter 5 and Gina in Crazy Taxi!
She has a new podcast of her own, Adventures of a Blonde Geisha, and we’ll talk all that ...
The Shenmue The Animation After Show is back this time looking at the the Episode 4 ‘Shackles’ giving us more of a look at the iconic character Goro, Fuku-San gives up his piggy bank to Ryo, we meet the Mad Angels, and Nazomi has been kidnapped? Oh my!
Shenmue the Animation has concluded the events of the first Shenmue.
On this episode we discuss an unlikely team up, Ryo’s departure changes from the game and Goro taking a urinating saves the day?!
Shenmue the Animation has finished the story for the first Shenmue game and has moved on to Hong Kong covering the first part of Shenmue II’s storyline.
On this After Show we talk about the missing Boat scene, new characters introduced for the first time in the anime and our overall thoughts of some of the missing storylines!
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Exclusive statue featuring Ryo Hazuki
Features intricate base with classic Shenmue props
Highly detailed PVC replica from the paintwork to Ryo’s iconic tiger jacket
Perfect collector’s item for any SEGA fan
Stands at 10” tall / 254mm
Ryo continues his journey into finding the Four Wude, we talk about some of the new returning characters and our thoughts on this very ‘video gamey’ episode!
Y'know, he would figure out what wude is much quicker if he just went to the local library or something.
Yes, but he wouldn't find the treasure that way because .....True. If you call most of these people friends. Yellow Heads, crazy biker chick, kung-fu street performer etc.
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..... the Real Treasure Was the Friends He Made Along the Way.
True. If you call most of these people friends. Yellow Heads, crazy biker chick, kung-fu street performer etc.
Not all friends are "good" people. There are sometimes rival friends, frenemies, or toxic friends.Better off going to the library then. XD
Better off going to the library then. XD
If only its setting was modern day, he could always google that on his phone.True. But you'd think Hong Kong would have libraries. I mean, I tried comparing SHenmue II map with Google map and couldn't find a propper allignment but I bet there could of been a library somewhere and somewhen back then.
True. But you'd think Hong Kong would have libraries. I mean, I tried comparing SHenmue II map with Google map and couldn't find a propper allignment but I bet there could of been a library somewhere and somewhen back then.
If the library books were in Cantonese or Chinese, Ryo would still having trouble since he's only beginning to learn the language.If the Librarian speaks his language, get them to help translate.
If the Librarian speaks his language, get them to help translate.
"Do you have a book on Wude?"
"Can you help me read it?"
I'm sure librarians in foreign countries are used to tourists who have difficulty reading their language.
And the librarian answered, "Yes, but we are not allowed to lend them to foreigners."Ooof... But he could just ask someone to read it for him than to borrow it.
Ooof... But he could just ask someone to read it for him than to borrow it.
And the librarian answered, "Yes, I suppose I could, but them again we are not allowed to read it for you."At that point they're just being racist.
At that point they're just being racist.
The journey to find the Four Wude continues, each secret being held by a Martial Arts master.
On this episode we are introduced to new minor characters from Shenmue II which includes Eileen M. Edelweiss and Izumi Takano; one of these two characters was meant to be Ryo’s love interest? Let’s get sweaty!
Sometimes people hold a grudge because of what's happened in the past.True but why the one racist library when so far everyone just seem to be hostile towards Ryo because of their own problems?
And things did happen in the past, Japan invaded Hongkong in 1941.
True but why the one racist library when so far everyone just seem to be hostile towards Ryo because of their own problems?
Because the librarian knows history better compared to the folks on the streets...You do't even know this librarian! There is no library in Shenmue II!
May be he/she's old enough to experience the war themself.
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You do't even know this librarian! There is no library in Shenmue II!
But I bet if I can figure out how to overlay Shenmue II's map of Hong Kong over Google Maps I bet I can find a library in the district.
The story would be very different if it's happened when Google Maps was already exist.Surely most of the roads and buildings would be the same back then as GHoogle Map has it now.
That meant the timeline would be a modern timeline where Hongkong became part of China already and smartphones exist.
Ryo would have just google about those wude things.
Surely most of the roads and buildings would be the same back then as GHoogle Map has it now.
Roads and buildings sure, still what buildings are for could be changed.Just need to use google maps, or at leasta modern map to compare it to Shenmue II map and then check what those buildings were in the mid-80's.
At least my local library has already moved to another place.
Many gamestores and arcade centers have gone too.
Just need to use google maps, or at leasta modern map to compare it to Shenmue II map and then check what those buildings were in the mid-80's.
May be you're right. I went to Hongkong once and the country, uh I meant, the autonomous Special Administrative Region (SAR) of China was relatively small so very little chance that the libraries moved to another places.Did you went to Shenmue IIs part of Hong Kong?
Did you went to Shenmue IIs part of Hong Kong?
I just wish I can line up Google Maps to Shenmue Ii map properly.
On this episode of Shenmue the Animation After Show we discuss Episode 9: Distinct.
Our young hero finishes his quest to discover the Four Wude, we are finally introduced to controversial Shenmue thug Yuan, and more!
As far as I remember no, it feels really different too with the games.I found the temple for Shenmue II but the gate area is a bit different from what I expected.
More modern and nobody using martial art clothes.
I found the temple for Shenmue II but the gate area is a bit different from what I expected.
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Cool! It's smaller than what I think but I do really can see the resemblance.I just wish for better comparison.
We're nearly coming to an end. :(
In the reply, they asked the fan to "guess why Suzuki was at their TGS stream.
While it's perhaps unlikely that 110 would directly announce a project of this scale in such a manner, the idea of the publisher backing Shenmue 4 doesn't actually seem all that far-fetched.
It could certainly explain how Suzuki came to be in the TGS showcase video, and would be very much in keeping with the company's mantra of encouraging "creativity, bold design choices and innovation," three things that, for better or worse, the Shenmue series is certainly renowned for.
Guess it only contains Shenmue 1 & 2, not 3.That's kinda fair I suppose on account Shenmue III has only been out for a few months, so spoilers.
We finally get a whole episode with series fan favorite Ren, we also cover the new content in the anime that wasn’t in the game and Yuan’s bird makes a appearance!
We are approaching the last few episodes of Shenmue the Animation and on the 11th episode our boy Ryo finds out about Xiuying Hong’s brother, he enters a tournament and continues to get closer to The Yellow Head Building were a Lan Di is!
We also look at changes from the game to the anime, including new storyline introduced for Joy!
We are almost coming to an end in our Shenmue The Animation After Show, on this episode our heroes journey into the Yellow Head Building, while the anime actually expands on both Joy and Wong’s character arcs and leaves us off with an epic stare down between Ryo and Lan Di!
We have reached the last episode of Shenmue the Animation!
On this After Show we discuss our overall review for Shenmue the Animation season 1, look at the finale episode and discuss our overall opinions on the changes the anime made from the game.
One of the interesting points he touched on was the fact that Shenmue 3 was created to please long time fans from the start since they’re the ones crowdfunding it.
Yu Suzuki says he received positive feedback from those old time fans but felt that newcomers “felt like they had been left behind”.
This made it a bad entry point for newcomers.
Reference to episode 12 of the animeI also doubt IRL air vents could support human weight.
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I also doubt IRL air vents could support human weight.
True. Even if they could support a kid's weight may be, it would be still noisy when the kid's moving on them.As well as some what dangerous if in the wrong place and the vents give way.
As well as some what dangerous if in the wrong place and the vents give way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaMzPl1Ts3k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaMzPl1Ts3k)
I remember that episode, lol... Man, I missed The Simpson.Yeah they were best pair. Glad Ryu made their lives a whole lot better after his visit.
Back to Shenmue, even Wong's exploring vents scene and Joy's strategy were questionable,
Wong and Joy are still my favorite support characters from the anime.
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Especially Wong, I like how he really does change in the final episode.
Yeah they were best pair. Glad Ryu made their lives a whole lot better after his visit.
Still think he could of saved a lot of time visiting the local library though.
The anime would be 6 episodes long if he went that route. ;-DTrue, but help Ryu out a how lot.
True, but help Ryu out a how lot.
This is the Hong Kong edition second trailer.
The animation production of this work is handled by Telecom Animation Film of SEGA Group.
But still couldn't make him beat Lan Di.Give him time, I'm sure he'll beat Lan Di one of these days.
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Give him time, I'm sure he'll beat Lan Di one of these days.
Lan Di : “Ah you think WUDE is your ally? You merely adopted the WUDE. I was born in it, molded by it."Yeah well, WUDE you gonna do about it?
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Yeah well, WUDE you gonna do about it?
In addition to the frame set we also have these for a limited time at our shop:
- A pin set with 5 types of pins
- Shenmue the Animation hand towel set
Release of a Japanese Dreamcast prototype of Shenmue 2 probably used during the Game Jam of April 2001.
The build dates from April 11th 2001, about 3 months before the final version.
You hear that? It’s the sound of engines revving, which can only mean we got a roundup of SEGA rumors to drop on you today!
While some of these are indeed just rumors, others are cold hard facts.
Which is which? We will leave that for you to decide.
Because there are so many little bits of SEGA rumors, I’ll break it down into bullets ...
Don't miss out on getting some slick SEGA merch for a fraction of the price!
Hurry—offers end midnight tomorrow! (BST) ⏰
In the United Arab Emirates, Mega Fan subscription price will change from 9.99 USD to 19 United Arab Emirates Dirham, which is a change of 48.5%.
The biggest price decrease we could find was off 88.5% for Pakistan, where the subscription price decreased from 9.99 USD to 1.13 USD.
“Shenmue II was released on the Dreamcast in Japan 21 years ago, introducing us to characters like Joy, Xiuying, and Fangmei! 🏍️💨
What were the most memorable characters, quests, and moments for you in Shenmue II? 🇭🇰
Happy 3rd Birthday to TUBBZ! 🎂🎉
Which SEGA character would you like to see turned into a duck next?
"We have everything we need on our end ready to go: The finished documentary (obviously) the bonus features, the artwork for the cover and the physical poster/insert booklet.
The hard part is creating the master copy and ensuring it works as intended, on the devices it is intended to work on. Also with chapters, menu selection, etc.
Im hoping we can just provide them with the digital files and instruction on what to do. That would be the easiest route, but we may have to author and burn the master copy ourselves which may take some tinkering."
The following shows have been removed from Adult Swim's website:
- Blade Runner: Black Lotus
- Fena: Pirate Princess
- Lazor Wulf
- Shenmue: The Animation
- Tigtone
To unlock the characters one must do the following:
- Axel Stone – 100 house of gameplay
- Beat – Rush and receive 150 years each with one player in a single game
- Kage-Maru – 7 interceptions in one game
- Jacky Bryant – kick a 55 yard field goal
- Taka Arashi – complete a game without your QB getting sacked
- Jeffrey McWild – 40 tackles in a single game
- Axel (called “Crazy Axel”) – 15,000 passing yards
- Ryo Hazuki – 100 interceptions
- Wolf Hawkfield – 500 sacks
- Combo – 150 wins
If you want a copy of the game, check ebay of the bargain bin of your local retro game shop.
An Xbox copy can be found for as little as $5!
October's Pin of the Month is now available at just £1.99/€1,99 when bought with any other product on site
Honour the many treasured hours spent within SEGA’s iconic action-adventure game Shenmue with this high-quality collectible!
Presenting a detailed dragon design against a wonderful golden finish, this slick enamel pin is a must-have for splashing some extra SEGA style onto your coats, bags and accessories.
Shenmue the anime has been cancelled after a successful first season, Sonic’s Soap shoes are back and Barry has beef with Sonic clothing collabs.
All this and more on SEGA News Bits Live!
A cracking Xmas bundle is available on SegaShopEurope right now!
For £94.99 you can get a Ryo Statue and Tubbz Duck!
Also, until November 1st you can the add the Shenmue pin for £1.99 totalling £96.98 for all 3!
What are you waiting for?!
Only 4 days away until Sonic & SEGA Fan Jam REMIX.
Here is our updated schedule of the event!
Get your badges today: https://ssfanjamremix.com/event-details/
Another Sonic & SEGA Fan Jam event is a wrap, and for the first time a Barry or George attended!
Which one was it? Click play to find out!
On this News Bits Live, check out exclusive photos and videos from the event, details on the must see panels and some merch pickups.
The biggest moment at this past weekend’s Sonic & SEGA Fan Jam Remix was the Shenmue & Arcade All-Stars Voice Actors Panel featuring the reunion of Corey Marshall, Lisle Wilkerson and Eric Kelso of Shenmue fame.
This is the first time all three have been together since recording audio for Shenmue II over 20 years ago.
I was on hand as moderator, which was probably a SEGA fan “career” highlight for me.
Give the full panel a watch and enjoy!
The Sonic & SEGA Fan Jam Remix convention has concluded, but our coverage hasn’t!
Following our recap on SEGA News Bits Live here is another bit of the convention, the full audio I recorded of the Shenmue & Arcade All-Stars panel which featured a reunion of the Shenmue voice actors Corey Marshall, Eric Kelso and Lisle Wilkerson.
Enjoy this historic moment in Shenmue history!
We’re sad to report that Akira Nagai, Managing Director at SEGA from 1965 to 2004, has passed away.
Nagai was one of the longest serving managing directors and representatives at the company, initially starting out in jukebox distribution in 1963 at Nihon Goraku Bussan and continuing in amusement machine sales in the 1980s.
During the 1990s, Nagai managed SEGA’s Amusement Theme Park concept which went on to establish several Joypolis venues in Japan in addition to others.
Fans might best remember his likeness from a cameo as a Yakuza boss in the first Shenmue game.
🐉 Yakuza 0 – 75%
🐉 Yakuza: Kiwami – 70%
🐉 Yakuza: Kiwami 2 – 70%
🐉 Yakuza 3, 4, & 5 Remastered – 65%
🐉 Yakuza 6: The Song of Life – 65%
🐉 Yakuza: Like a Dragon – 70%
⚖️ Judgment – 25%
⚖️ Lost Judgment – 30%
🐰 Shining Resonance Refrain – 75%
😎 Persona® 5 Strikers – 60%
😎 Shenmue I & II - 80%
and many more
- Shenhua
- Nozomi
- Xiuying
- Joy
Party like it’s 1999 with this 12-month calendar showcasing the SEGA Dreamcast.
The revolutionary video game console is celebrated with box art, posters, sketches, and other images from the most popular Dreamcast games, just in time for its 25th anniversary.
It’s STILL thinking.
Let’s celebrate with some games!
Get up to 85% off many amazing SEGA titles on the Steam Spring Sale right now! 🌼🌺🏵️
We have more than 300 games + DLC on sale!
How to participate :
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For a chance to win Shenmue I & II and Shenmue3 “Deluxe” on STEAM!
Winner announcement this Sunday, April 9th!
Good luck everyone!
The Story Must Go On…
Three of our best-selling statues are part of the SEGA Shop Easter sale - there's never been a better time to add them to your collection!
Link below...
😜🤌🕶 June is here and we've got some more sales for you!
Head over to the official website below to check out the latest sale information
📺
Apple TV - £6.99 BUY
Amazon - £9.99 BUY / £2.99 RENT
YouTube - £9.99* BUY / £4.49 RENT
Google Play - £9.99 BUY / £4.49 RENT
Microsoft Store - £9.99 BUY / £4.49 RENT
* YouTube increases to £12.99 when purchasing via mobile.
With a 9.5 IMDb rating “A Gamer’s Journey The Definitive History of Shenmue” is not to be missed! 🙌
A sun-sational offering of discounts across the SEGA catalogue is up for grabs for a limited time only from June 29th - July 13th.
COMPETITION!
We have 1x Steam code to give away for the entire series!
Just like and retweet this post (https://twitter.com/Shenmue_Dojo/status/1698788198158041327) to enter!
Closes September 8th 2023
Don't miss out on BIG savings!
Hurry, these deals won't last forever...
(Link below)
The Dreamcast Encyclopedia is the fifth book in Scottish author and games journalist Chris Scullion’s critically-acclaimed series of video game encyclopedias.
The Sega Dreamcast is fondly remembered by players as a games console that was ahead of its time, almost to a fault. Its incredible graphics offered a level of detail that hadn’t been seen on home systems to that point, and its built-in modem brought online multiplayer to many console players for the first time ever. Ultimately though, the release of the PS2 (and later the GameCube and Xbox) led to struggling sales and Sega would eventually pull the plug on the Dreamcast just two years into its life, bowing out of the console manufacturing business altogether. On paper the Dreamcast was a commercial failure, but those who owned one remember it so fondly that for many it remains one of the greatest games consoles of all time, with a small but well-formed library of high-quality games. This book contains every one of those games, including not only the entire western library of around 270 titles, but also the 340 or so games that were exclusively released in Japan. With over 600 games covered in total, screenshots for every title and a light-hearted writing style designed for an entertaining read, The Dreamcast Encyclopedia is the definitive guide to one of the most underrated gaming systems of all time.
Get ready for a rollercoaster of savings!
Grab a bunch of amazing SEGA games on Steam right now for up to 85% off
We’ll verify that in #Shenmue IV, hopefully…
SEGA Talk #128: Unreleased Dreamcast Games Part 1 (1998-2002)
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We end our epic finally of ranking each unreleased Dreamcast games.
This second part will cover big SEGA games like Shenmue III, Scud Racer, Toejam & Earl 3, and of course Propeller Arena.
Check out the epic finale!
Shenmue Dojo, the popular Shenmue fansite, posted a first look at a promising new fan game that will be arriving on PC on December 15th.
The short fan game called "A Shenmue Story" is being developed by the musician George Kitchen in Unity and will take place at Christmas. From the trailer, it looks to be primarily played from a first-person perspective, with some third-person sections for QTEs, and will also include a bunch of new minigames, such as an Ecco The Dolphin lucky hit machine, a Sonic Spinball arcade machine, and a game based on NiGHTS into Dreams. It will also feature
Collector's Editions of Yu Suzuki's Air Twister are now open for pre-order!
Items are ready for and even partly moved to production, the book is in final revision.
shenmue ii cover art for the for Newgrounds Dreamcast Collab
Ready for a sneak peek?
Included in the Air Twister Collector's Edition will be an 86-page biography of Yu Suzuki, highlighting his life and gameography.
In addition to the amazing Yu Suzuki Biography, the Air Twister Collector's Edition will also include an incredible Artbook.
An updated photo of my Shenmue magazines and guides.
A total of 62 in my collection and there are so many more out there.
International Men’s Day celebrates worldwide the positive value men bring to the world, their families and communities.
International Men’s Day is an opportunity for people everywhere of goodwill to appreciate and celebrate the men in their lives and the contribution they make to society for the greater good of all.
In this third installment of the epic Shenmue series, Ryo seeks to solve the mystery behind the Phoenix Mirror, an artifact sought after by his father’s killer. His journey takes him to an immersive representation of rural China, brimming with activity and surrounded by beautiful landscapes.
Ryo’s adventure leads him to towns and mountain villages where he can further his training, try his hand at gambling, play arcade games, and work part-time jobs while investigating those who know truth behind the Phoenix Mirror.
Dreams of Saturn is a Shenmue Xmas fan game from George Kitchen. The game features around 10-15 hours worth of content in the form of a short Shenmue story, taking place before and after the events of the original Shenmue, along with a wide variety of mini-games, achievements and collectables. The game is a standalone client and is NOT a mod for the original Shenmue.
The game is currently available for PC only (Mac version at a later date) and can be downloaded below:
For a chance to win a Shenmue statue signed by Corey Marshall (Ryo Hazuki's English voice actor):
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Competition only open to UK/EU residents.
Winner announced 1st March 2024.
🎮Sega Publisher Sale February 2024 will last for 2 amazing weeks between Feb 14th (Wed) and Feb 28rd (Wed)!
Click link below to enjoy the sales: 👇
You can SAVE up to 25% off Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth during the SEGA Spring Sale on Steam now through Mar 21st🤙
Don't miss out on a story about the unluckiest but happiest people in the world🌞
Oh, and it's Steam Deck Verified ✅
Save 50% on selected items in the SEGA Shop Easter sale including Mega Drive, Saturn, Dreamcast, Like a Dragon & Sonic the Hedgehog ranges!
Link below.
Tentatively set to release on September 16th.
Insert Coin Tees have just released their brand-new Shenmue collection, including this incredible jacket and pin!
Get them while you can!
Naturally, unless you happen to be able to read Polish, the magazine's contents are going to be largely alien to you, but what's abundantly clear is that a lot of time and effort has gone into creating this magazine, which not only celebrates some of the best games to appear on Sega's final home console, but also takes a look at the many homebrew titles which have been released since Sega abandoned the system.
If you'd like to ...
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