Alright these posts are getting a bit long at this point, I'm going to try to scale mine back with the next couple posts or so.
They could still have staged it by allowing it to occur, or facilitated the destruction. Pearl Harbour, for instance, was allowed to happen, despite being fully done by Japan. 9/11 could be the same thing.
Pearl Harbor being "allowed to happen" is debatable. There is evidence of course to suggest that the US may have known some facts in advance, yes, but the extent of the information known is subject for debate. If the US knows of an "impending attack" and nothing else, there isn't anything that can really be done.
9/11 is the same way.....first of all, it was certainly not "allowed" to happen. Did the US know that some terrorists were in our country? Yeah. They could have even known of an impending plot on 9/11 (again, debatable) but that's not enough information to go by to do anything. The magnitude of the attacks and the form they took was something completely unexpected and, well, new. Hijacking commercial airliners and using them as missiles was a plot that there's been little precedent for. Hijackings have almost never been suicide missions. If the US expected a massive terrorist plot the scale of 9/11 on that day, would they have allowed Bush to go to his scheduled reading session with the kindergardeners in that Florida school? If you were the President and knew of an impending terrorist attack, reading to kids would probably be the last thing on your mind. But there he was, sitting, stammering, reading books to kids in that Florida classroom (because he was too much of a pussy to do anything else and was clearly caught totally off guard by the attack) when our country was experiencing the greatest attack ever on its home soil.
The one thing conspiracy theorists (And there are MANY of them in America; as much as 40% of our population believe 9/11 was either staged or our government was complicit) never seem to want to take into account is coincidence....there IS such thing as coincidence. You can go back and analyze little things and make certain leaps, but some things just can't be expected or prepared for....and I believe that 9/11 was one of those things. Nowadays I think it's a different story, but back then, we were just stupidly unprepared for an attack.
I'll tell you this. We had a surplus when Bill Clinton left office. 9/11 happened, and we are still facing the economic effects from it and from our actions taken in response to it.....what is it, a 10 trillion dollar debt? Some ridiculously high number? Dude no country wishes that upon itself, it's ridiculous to think that way.
No it is not similar to American ghettos. These are people who immigrated to France based on their own free will with the purpose of expanding the economy. Instead they created secluded ghettos of violence, essentially invading segments of the country where others cannot even visit unless they are Muslims. Over half of all Imams in France are on welfare even. They are human parasites and a threat to everyone different from themselves.
Well I won't pretend to be knowledgeable on European ghettos. Riots in Europe on the part of immigrants are nothing new, France dealt with it a couple years back as well. Again, it's important to consider WHY these people are rioting when trying to understand exactly who is at fault, and you'd see that many factors are at play. I'm not defending rioters, but again, to say that the government has no responsibility AT ALL is to ignore a situation that's gone on for years.
England, I have no idea about, I don't know their situation or any of that stuff, so I won't comment. I do find it funny that you're bashing these people for rioting to get their point across yet you support suicide bombers in Palestine.
And do not start the anti-white racism. White people are the least racist people to the point of stupidity. The African immigrants in France are far more racist. A game they play is to attack French girls then upload videos of it to YouTube, calling it 'happy slapping' - essentially it is beating women for a joke due to them being another race. They also do it to Chinese immigrants in France.
And there's a history of white people killing black people by hanging them from trees just for fun.
Some do not consider Jesus Jewish as his father was a Roman soldier, though a lot of people like to think god is Jesus' father (which he obviously is not...). I also think Christians believe that Jews worship a false god.
It's the same God. Literally, the same God. Christians believe that the God from the Old Testament stories fathered their messiah. Jews do not believe that Christ is the messiah. That's the key difference in the religions. And it's a key difference, but the God they worship is the same. Christians simply worship this god through a messiah whereas Jews do not.
I don't doubt that some Christians feel that Jews worship a "false god" but outside of their obvious total ignorance of both their and the Jewish faith, I have no clue whatsoever how they came to that conclusion.
What is your point? I am not even trying to defend Christians. Get out of Jon Stewart's Fox News Battle Mode.
What do you mean you're not trying to defend Christians? According to you, they're completely and totally innocent and free of blame in every single conflict they've ever been in.
So let us just ignore all the examples I provided. People being tortured in an American concentration camp right now is not terrorism. We can just blame it on Germany and Cambodia.
Civilians are being abducted and gassed to death in American concentration camps? Where?
That is easier to say when Israel gets free American weapons and they get nothing. How else are they supposed to fight back? They usually are attacking 'settler colonies' to deter more Israeli immigrants. It is of course not the fault of the settlers, but logically it makes sense to target these as they are the easiest targets and it gets the point across.
Dude they are not just attacking "settler colonies" they've blown up busses, cafes, etc. in major Israeli cities. And the only point I see Palestinians getting across by electing a terrorist regime and suicide bombing civilians, including children, is that these people would be no allies to the free world and do not deserve their own country. Certainly not the message they're intending to get across, but terrorism is never a good way to achieve your goals.
And for an example of Israeli terrorism: they like to fly their fighter jets over Palestinian homes repeatedly for days just to torture them with intensive vibrations and noise. It is impossible for anyone to even sleep in these conditions. It does not achieve anything, it is purely to terrorise people, which is terrorism.
I'm actually not aware of this, but this wouldn't be completely uncommon. South Korea sets up giant speakers at their border with North Korea and blares Christmas music into North Korea at Christmas time. (N. Korea is an atheist nation.) They also blare anti-communist propaganda, among other things. It's not a problem unique to Israel, if that's really the case.
Cool because I never stated that. I never even mentioned Afghanistan in that list.
What do you mean you never said that? You said Bin Laden was dead before 9/11 even happened, and you said this;
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faking attacks and threats by others then invading them (Vietnam, Iraq), "
Faking what attacks?
You are at war with the natural environment? I thought it would be the ideology of the people in authority. This is why it is so easy to hate Americans. Even if you are uninvolved in their conflict, they end up attacking you and devastating the part of the world you live in. As I stated earlier, it is nothing other than pure evil. And no, not everyone thinks like an American concerning environmentalism. National parks starting appearing in the 1800s, and modern environmentalism was strong in Europe since the 1930s - in many areas much stronger than today.
No, you are at war with the North Vietnamese, who are using the cover of the forests to target and wipe out American soldiers. Again, I'm not defending the use of Agent Orange in Vietnam, but its use was not "for fun," but an attempt to make it easier for our soldiers to fight the enemy.
Regarding the environment, what a surprise; you think that again, America is entirely at fault for every single one of the world's issues. Dude it took Europe years to even begin using unleaded fuel while it was law in America long before then. Please don't act like other countries are angels in this, all of the free world is responsible for the state our planet is currently in. And sure there have been grassroots movements in the past to stop climate change and fix the environment but generally, humans as a people don't act until shit goes down, and the energy crisis of the 70s and the new knowledge that our ozone layer is vanishing are what it took, sadly, for this to become a mainstream issue.
