Why does SOJ show Sonic such contempt?

[ROJM]

What in early 1996 ? . The main Sonic game started life as soon as the Team finished work on NiGHTS . Its not like Mario is always ready to go on Nintendo machines. Mario didn't lauch with the Wii or there was no 3D mario ready to go for the Wii Lauch and SEGA Japan took an age to get Sonic CD ready for the unit .


You love to make out there was no major Sonic game in development for the Saturn, by SOJ. You are were wrong



Shenmue was in advanced state of Saturn development, sadly it too got moved up  .It happens . Now you tried to make out SEGA Japan didn't have a major Sonic game in development for the Saturn, they did .

There was NO major Sonic game made for the saturn SONIC JAM and SONIC R are not major Sonic titles. There was no real development for Sonic on the saturn. Which is WHY SONIC ADVENTURE never appeared.
 
 
But wait let's hear from the horse's mouth....
 
 

Sega Saturn Magazine: Sonic Adventure seems to be an incredibly complex game. Where did the inspiration come form?
Yuji Naka: I thought of the concept itself right at the end of the development of the NiGHTS project - around August 1996. Actual development on Dreamcast started last July (July 1997).

So no SONIC ADVENTURE was never coming to Saturn. Which means i'm correct. As usual.
 
But hey there's more...

Sega Saturn Magazine: What were the beginnings of taking Sonic into a
3D world?


Yuji Naka: The first starting point were experiments in which I tried
to see how the Sonic system would work in 3D...

But it doesn't stop there...

Sega Saturn Magazine: Was the 3D section of Sonic World, seen in the Sonic Jam
compilation, a part of thse experiments?


Yuji Naka: You got the point - that was actually part of the
experiments I carried out to see how Sonic would work in 3D.

Oh and more....

Sega Saturn Magazine: We half expected Sonic World as a full-on Saturn
game...


Yuji Naka: At the time I created that 3D section of Sonic Jam,
I obviously knew about Dreamcast, and just couldn't resist putting Sonic
Adventure on the new hardware.

So there you go no intention of creating a proper Sonic game for saturn....by the time they decided to make a proper sonic game..they went with the DC from the VERY beginning. Stop trying to rewrite history in order to show SOJ are the good guys. They don't and never knew what they had or what they are doing and couldn't market themselves out of a paper bag.

So quit your BSing and accept the fact that SONIC was sidelined thruout the saturn era. And Mario there's always a game ready between the launch window..either at launch or the first year. That never happened with SONIC. because SOJ had no intention of releasing the game until they had to.

[Team Andromeda]

There was NO major Sonic game made for the saturn SONIC JAM and SONIC R are not major Sonic titles.

Again and for the last time . There was a major Sonic game in development for the Saturns sadly due to market share and Saturn failure in the West it was moved to up to the Dreamcast . The sight seeing research that the Team did in S.America for Sonic Adv was all conducted in 1996 and in 1997 Sonic Team were also given the Sega Rally CS Team to up their numbers as work continued on 2 Saturn projects by the Sonic Team (namely Burning Rangers and Sonic Adv) . So a lot of time and effort was put in to the Saturn title and with out that work already done . Sonic Adv would never have been ready to launch just after the DC launched in Japan .

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LOL. Work did start on Project Sonic after NiGHTS, but that was on the Saturn; The Dreamcast project wasn't ready in 1996 and none of the DC hardware was in place (stuff like SH-4 and Power VR didn't come online until 1997 for starters) and keep on dreaming that a project of Sonic Adv size could be completed in just over a year much less the DC project was in any short of shape for development in 1996.

Stop trying to rewrite history in order to show SOJ are the good guys.

I'm not rewriting history at all . Fact is  Project Sonic was in development for the Saturn and the original members of the Sonic Team  . Clear from the interviews and also by the main director of Sonic Adv .  Lots of games have been in serious development on a platform only to be moved up to another due to various reasons ... Luigi Mansion started life as an N64 title, Star Fox Adv the same, so did Kameo, so did Perfect Dark Zero , and if one looks at SEGA well a number of their XBox or PS2 titles started life on the DC before being moved up to other platforms like with Gunvalkyrie , Toe Jam and Earl 3 and son on . It happens   

[ROJM]

Again and for the last time . There was a major Sonic game in development for the Saturns sadly due to market share and Saturn failure in the West

No there wasn't. Yuji Naka..said so in saturn magazine.

LOL. Work did start on Project Sonic after NiGHTS, but that was on the Saturn;

No there was an experiment which never was meant to be SONIC ADVENTURE for DC. Yuji Naka said so in saturn magazine...

I'm not rewriting history at all . Fact is  Project Sonic was in development for the Saturn

No it never was. Yuji Naka SAID so in saturn magazine. You see unlike you i don't print articles out of context i go for the real meat. Yuji Naka never said SONIC ADVENTURE started on Saturn. He said the game was for DC and DC only. And again you proved my point that by the time they decided to go with a sonic game it was too late..which was my point all along. They should have had one ready within launch or the saturn's second year. But the reason they didn't is because they had no intention of creating a proper Sonic game. Anything associated with the MD mainly Sonic and SOA titles were canned or ignored. And the result? The biggest flop in E3 and the USA and UK. So stop rewriting history about the saturn and deal with the truth.

[MadeManG74]

Well its clear you're taking the piss , but since we want proof and I could do with a laugh . Where your proof of EDGE giving the score of 9.63 and saying this about Sonic Adv II

You're a real funny guy, you make me laugh TA. Why do you assume that I'm extracting the urine? Can't disprove me?
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[ROJM]

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[Barry the Nomad]

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[MadeManG74]

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[MadeManG74]

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[Team Andromeda]

No there wasn't. Yuji Naka..said so in saturn magazine

Did you even read Sega Saturn Mag ?


In SEGA Saturn Mag #4 Feb 1996 and I quote  Naka-san talking about the new Saturn Sonic , Then called: Team Sonic

The poses are already terrific and almost all the people involved with Sonic so far are lined up, so I think I could show you graphics which you wouldn't believe possible on the Saturn 

Here's Oshimia-san again in the same issue again talking about Saturn Team Sonic

We hoped to surprise you again as with the first Sonic. We feel it will be effective, so can you look forward to something good !

So sorry Saturn Sonic was already in development in early 1996 , The team aspect of Sonic Adv in place and the Sonic Team also already having a lovely trip to S.America to do research . Then in Tokyo Game Show in April 1997 . SEGA Japan not only announce a Saturn Sonic, but also how Project Sonic will come in 3 phases .

No there was an experiment which never was meant to be SONIC ADVENTURE for DC.

The DC project was even a goer until late 1997 . Project Sonic had already started development . And to see you try and use Naka-san quotes after slating the guy, calling him a lair and a man that takes credit for games he's never worked on , much less downplay his role in Sonic is quite frankly laughable .

[ROJM]

Did you even read Sega Saturn Mag ?

You haven't. I proved with you're own magazine that Naka estabilshed thatt he game was NEVER a Saturn project.
I estabilshed using YOUR own magazine that the sonic titles were made WAY too late in the Saturn's run basically proving what i was saying that SOJ had no intention of creating a main Sonic title for the saturn from the start.
Also from the SAME magazine i proved that SONIC 3D world was just a side game to see if 3d sonic would work as Naka said himself. Its as clear as rain.
So i know who me and countless others who read this post is going to believe...and its not you.