Sega made an $18m loss in the first half of FY2015

[Team Andromeda]

with a F2P exclusive for PS4....did you see that? A market where Sega is

SEGA doesn't not have a F2P game on the next gen consoles (well unless you want to class the Vita) and again F2P is really nothing that other corps have either done or are developing games, even Capcom with Monster Hunter and Deep Down F2P games in development for the PC and PS4 . Far better if SEGA Japan brought PSO II to the next gen consoles where it could get some nice sales.

Sony are in the board of bankruptcy despites great sales with the PS4 and Microsoft are doubtful with the Xbox Brand

SONY are going nowhere and console arm is one of the few bright spots with over 13 million PS4 sold already. MS not only as the XBox Division reported a profit , not only are sales up thanks to the price cut . MS is now spending millions on pushing the system and a massive focus on game  . Sony and MS are set for a great Christmas and bummer sales just a shame that SOJ is nowhere on the next gen to cash in on the new console owners looking for new games

Also, the market it's not stable right now. Ninty didn't sell well

That's nothing to do with the market and everything to do with Nintendo selling Hardware that years out of date with a lame line and pee poor 3rd Party Support . Wii U is a gimmick too far and like I said with the Sonic deal , it was a bad idea to support the Wii U . Sonic should have been on the 360,PS3, XBox One and PS4  But they you go , the people at SammySega don't really have the 1st clue

[MadeManG74]

That NeoGAF thread is hilarious.
"Nintendo needs to buy Sonic to save him!"
"Sega OMG don't u ruin my ATLUS! I want new PurseOwner games!"
"So Sad, Sega should have kept making consoles, then they'd be doing well!"

[Mariano]

That NeoGAF thread is hilarious.
"Nintendo needs to buy Sonic to save him!"
"Sega OMG don't u ruin my ATLUS! I want new PurseOwner games!"
"So Sad, Sega should have kept making consoles, then they'd be doing well!"

A lot of people that clearly need to have sex...

[ROJM]

TA, stop. You are spinning the same answers over and over again. We explained what happened with that loss and you are repeating the same deal with Capcom and Sega not taking part of the next gen jump. Sure, Capcom will do it...with a F2P exclusive for PS4....did you see that? A market where Sega is
more than capable that many companies in the business.

We know the answers already . Stop pretending that it's the big deal that Sega are losing it.

Also, the market it's not stable right now. Ninty didn't sell well, Sony are in the board of bankruptcy despites great sales with the PS4 and Microsoft are doubtful with the Xbox Brand.
And that's a fact, by the way.

Exactly. This is exactly what i mean about TA...spin and lies and spin and more lying. He thinks this is 2004 when not many people understood the innerworkings of Sega..their past history or current financial reports. Were in 2014...posting in a website for smart Sega fans or Sega smart fans..people who know the inner dealings of Sega and their people and the development and history of the company as well as understanding Financial reports. He can troll this forum all he wants..no one here is going to believe his nonsense anymore. Anyway I'm going to post something that will remove all doubt..but its bigger than the current situation and refers to the past. Only a few members will really understand the implications in terms of finance.

[Team Andromeda]

and the development and history of the company as well as understanding Financial reports.

I do and it doesn't make great reading for SEGA at the mo . They're becoming less and less important on the consoles and I'll know you hit back with the mobile , but just bare one thing in mind Square Enix, EA, generate  more revenue for the mobile/digital sector but also have big focus on the next gen consoles too . SEGA Japan is basically saying it's not good enough to compete on the next gen consoles anymore , its quite sad to see .

[ROJM]

I do and it doesn't make great reading for SEGA at the mo . They're becoming less and less important on the consoles and I'll know you hit back with the mobile , but just bare one thing in mind Square Enix, EA, generate  more revenue for the mobile/digital sector but also have big focus on the next gen consoles too . SEGA Japan is basically saying it's not good enough to compete on the next gen consoles anymore , its quite sad to see .

You don't. Sega had they not had to close those that arcade facility would have had a healthier profit sheet. But since you like to keep focusing on consumer vs consumer division..then Sega wins because its profits are up but bigger than Capcom. As its been for a long while now. Why do you keep twisting facts and try to make out its always the consumer part of sega that posted the loss? Sega has tons of divisions in their company and they would affect the outcome of any profit margin. The arcade, Panchinko and the consumer divisions are the ones that affect the big picture. And the consumer division is the one that is posting profit. All for anyone to see. So yes you are out of touch and obviously lack any understanding about corporate fiances..

[Team Andromeda]

You don't. Sega had they not had to close those that arcade facility would have had a healthier profit sheet

I'm not going on about the Arcade side, that's even more depressing reading . I'm on about the consumer side and SEGA's revenue/games sales and numbers in that division are hardly world beaters and where even Square can boast more revenue than SEGA.


Now if EA and Square can 'like' SEGA have a nice mobile/digital arm , but also 'unlike' SEGA have major next gen games and engines in development , why can't SEGA Japan . You maybe happy to see SEGA Japan just become a mobile player , I am not . I don't any of the SEGA fans here or what's left of the old guard , even own much less have played any of SOJ mobile games .


SEGA Japan needs some AAA games and some decent tech on the next gen or its just going to die even more of death to most games than it already has . SEGA Japan could do 3 simple moves that wouldn't cost the earth but help it get some foothold on the next gen . PSO II and Sonic for the next gen system for starters , then after that look to bring Boarder Break to the next gen for massive multi player mayhem .


Not only do SEGA get a foothold on the next gen, you also start to please some of the SEGA fans

[ROJM]

I'm not going on about the Arcade side, that's even more depressing reading . I'm on about the consumer side and SEGA's revenue/games sales and numbers in that division are hardly world beaters and where even Square can boast more revenue than SEGA.


Now if EA and Square can 'like' SEGA have a nice mobile/digital arm , but also 'unlike' SEGA have major next gen games and engines in development , why can't SEGA Japan . You maybe happy to see SEGA Japan just become a mobile player , I am not . I don't any of the SEGA fans here or what's left of the old guard , even own much less have played any of SOJ mobile games .


SEGA Japan needs some AAA games and some decent tech on the next gen or its just going to die even more of death to most games than it already has . SEGA Japan could do 3 simple moves that wouldn't cost the earth but help it get some foothold on the next gen . PSO II and Sonic for the next gen system for starters , then after that look to bring Boarder Break to the next gen for massive multi player mayhem .


Not only do SEGA get a foothold on the next gen, you also start to please some of the SEGA fans

Then why don't you actually BACK UP what you are saying with a quote and link saying that the company's consumer division lost money. All you doing is repeat repeat repeat without backing anything up. Aki said that the consumer division hasn't lost anyb money. More people around here will listen to him than they will you.

[Nameless 24]

To make this clear, everything EXCEPT the videogame division is having a bad time

Thanks for the clarification!

I did read your points before NeoGAF and went "Hey up? What's this? It seems that they're pretty misinformed given what I read on SEGAbits"

[Mariano]

Thanks for the clarification!

I did read your points before NeoGAF and went "Hey up? What's this? It seems that they're pretty misinformed given what I read on SEGAbits"

You have the report from Aki if you have more doubts.
Dont trust what other websites say...the industry is full of sensationalism...

[Team Andromeda]

Then why don't you actually BACK UP what you are saying with a quote and link saying that the company's consumer division lost money

What are you on about ? I have't said the consumer division posted a loss , I said SEGA did which they did and of one looks at the sales figs and revenue SEGA consumer sales are hardly spectacular.   

[ROJM]

What are you on about ? I have't said the consumer division posted a loss , I said SEGA did which they did and of one looks at the sales figs and revenue SEGA consumer sales are hardly spectacular.   

Really...Here's what TA said...

Capcom made a profit , something which SEGA couldn't even with its digital
sales, it's PC sales and all the other dept's you love to list ,  also
Capcom got more revenue from games than SEGA . Watch Capcom post rather nice
profit in the next quarter on the back of the new Monster Hunter alone . So
sorry again you're very much wrong.

Very clear you were comparing the games divison. Sega lost money but made a profit MORE than Capcom overall. Their consumer divison didn't post a loss and made MORE than Capcom. Go away kid...
Aki and the Segabits staff broke it down it still adds up to more profit than capcom
Mariano who's first languange isn't english managed to understand the report.
 Nirmugen also agrees if not the majority of the forum members.
 
Its only you who is saying EVERYONE else is wrong ..as usual. You are either a simpleton or trolling to keep the attention on you. You keep derailing positive threads with nonsense about the SAME FUCKING thing that people beat you on months ago.
Wanna report me go ahead you frig. I want something done about you bringing up the same subject in topics that has nothing to do with the topic matter. At one case you were trolling five different topics about the same FUNKING thing. I and others have had enough. There should be a rule that the topic stays on its matter and not about another subject..or people should be banned. And you TA are at the cause of it. 
 When i go into BAYONETTA topic i want to talk about the game and the actual GAMEPLAY not what Sega or PG oir Nintendo did behind the scenes or its finacial situation. Going into Segabits forums in any topic is like walking into another Financial report time in time out. Its getting stupid and out of hand. ENOUGH!
 
 

[Team Andromeda]

Very clear you were comparing the games divison

Nope and very clear you're twisting . Just said SEGA made a loss, unlike Capcom and if one looks deeper in to SEGA Consume sales they're hardly brilliant in terms of sales . They're good and nice, but lots of corps can boost bigger sales even in the digital area . Going forward SEGA Japan seem to have no major plans for the XBox One or PS4 and that to me is troubling

[ROJM]

Nope and very clear i'm twisting

There. That's what you meant.

[GrimReaperofCards]

Ouch, well will have to see. The stuff released after the period end will technically be recognized next period but its good to be optimistic. Perhaps it might be favorable to buy Sega shares now?