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Offline Trippled

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Podcast reactions to Sega's recent statement
« on: July 26, 2015, 03:48:52 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jgJWbG7gCI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed1CupqaihU


So the statements of Sega recently caused discussions at Podcasts, such as GT and KindaFunny.


Well obviously, public opinion at Sega is in the dumpster: "lol Sega still exists", "after 10 years they realize they should make some good games" etc.


Tough I still think its a bit of anomaly that Atlus is held in such high regard...being the only reason why Sega is relevant in home consoles. I mean personally last generation Atlus and Sega were pretty much on equal footing for Japanese style content tbh.
People are going on about Catherine still, that was in 2011. If you feel strongly about Atlus, a small niche publisher, I think you would know Sega has had japanese quality games as well.


Guess goes to show how a bad game of the company mascot can really ruin that companies reputation.
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Offline Tad

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Re: Podcast reactions to Sega's recent statement
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2015, 04:31:51 am »
I've never really liked Gregg Miller and co, and some of the nonsense they're saying just puts the final nail in the coffin. "Sonic was never Mario World" well, duuuhh! Really? That's the point! It's something different.

I know in America Nintendo were the business, but it seems to be a common thing that they wear rose tinted glasses with Nintendo and can't wait to visit the toilet with SEGA.
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Offline crackdude

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Re: Podcast reactions to Sega's recent statement
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2015, 05:55:02 am »
People are stupid.

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Yes, all of them.
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Offline Sharky

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Re: Podcast reactions to Sega's recent statement
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2015, 10:16:25 am »
I don't think we need to give any more attention to these dbags.
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Offline TimmiT

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Re: Podcast reactions to Sega's recent statement
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2015, 10:22:20 am »
I don't think we need to give any more attention to these dbags.
Gametrailers is actually pretty decent. Don't know about Kinda Funny as I've never watched stuff by them though.

Offline Tad

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Re: Podcast reactions to Sega's recent statement
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2015, 11:23:51 am »
They were at IGN - and it's better now they're gone - but decided to leave and go to patreon. GT are...better to be fair, but I don't think they really knew what to say on this.

Offline Radrappy

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Re: Podcast reactions to Sega's recent statement
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2015, 12:55:12 pm »
Have you people been living in a hole?  People hate Sega these days. 

Offline Aki-at

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Re: Podcast reactions to Sega's recent statement
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2015, 01:12:05 pm »
Guess goes to show how a bad game of the company mascot can really ruin that companies reputation.

Yeah most of these people are misinformed, some more so than others. I had to point out to some that SEGA isn't the "Only Yakuza and Sonic" company or what x or y persons responsibility was at the company.

General public I don't see much problem in not knowing some of these facts but game journalists should have done a bit of research into their subject matter at least.

Offline Tad

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Re: Podcast reactions to Sega's recent statement
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2015, 01:15:31 pm »
We don't have journalists in the games industry.

Offline Radrappy

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Re: Podcast reactions to Sega's recent statement
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2015, 01:32:36 pm »
Yeah most of these people are misinformed, some more so than others. I had to point out to some that SEGA isn't the "Only Yakuza and Sonic" company

To be fair, Sega themselves will occasionally release a statement saying things just like this. 

Offline Aki-at

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Re: Podcast reactions to Sega's recent statement
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2015, 01:47:45 pm »
To be fair, Sega themselves will occasionally release a statement saying things just like this. 

And Nintendo said they wouldn't have a E3 conference and people took at they wouldn't be at E3. Didn't stop the press from misinterpreting what the company said just like with SEGA's word (Note they never said they would only publish x and y franchises.)

We don't have journalists in the games industry.

This is a sad truth, the ones we do have are really far and few in between.

Offline Trippled

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Re: Podcast reactions to Sega's recent statement
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2015, 01:53:05 pm »
I think it was actually the Atlus core fans as well as fans of NIS, Xseed, etc. that didn't feel badly about Sega acquiring Atlus. They know that Sega and Atlus are a natural fit in Japan and a company purchase is something you don't do on a whim without strategy. Just goes to show that game fans are still more informed that mainstream journalists, which is sad.

Offline Radrappy

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Re: Podcast reactions to Sega's recent statement
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2015, 02:18:25 pm »
Note they never said they would only publish x and y franchises.

No, but they did say they would be focusing heavily on them.

http://www.nowgamer.com/sega-to-cancel-games-sonic-football-manager-total-war-alien-ips-survive/

It's not as if it's up to outlets to find a silver lining in a bleak press release like this.  It always amazes me how people here are surprised that Sega's reputation isn't great right now.  There's no conspiracy; the output speaks for itself.  You can blame people for being ignorant when they use Sonic to gauge the health of a company but people would do the same thing with Nintendo and Mario.  Sega needs to learn that some games represent their image more than others. 

Offline Tad

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Re: Podcast reactions to Sega's recent statement
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2015, 03:21:28 pm »
Absolutely not. SEGA are currently face down in the gutter. I do take issue with what Colin Moriarty said on that podcast however. It's lazy research and a terribly dismissive attitude towards SEGA's entire existence.

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Offline Aki-at

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Re: Podcast reactions to Sega's recent statement
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2015, 03:25:55 pm »
No, but they did say they would be focusing heavily on them.

http://www.nowgamer.com/sega-to-cancel-games-sonic-football-manager-total-war-alien-ips-survive/

It's not as if it's up to outlets to find a silver lining in a bleak press release like this.

There's a difference between "We will only produce these particular titles" and "We will produce strong IPs such as x and y" websites literally took it as it meant only Sonic, Total War, Aliens and Football Manager, not that those specific titles are merely an example and other strong titles like Puyo, Yakuza and Phantasy Star would continue. This isn't about finding a silver lining, it's about actually reading and understanding the report, which most of these websites cannot.

To be fair to them they are absolutely atrocious at understanding business and still mix up operating income with net income so it shows you the quality of reporting.

There's no conspiracy; the output speaks for itself.  You can blame people for being ignorant when they use Sonic to gauge the health of a company but people would do the same thing with Nintendo and Mario.  Sega needs to learn that some games represent their image more than others. 

As I said, it is fine if it's the joe public, this isn't their job and holding uninformed opinion of something that may or may not interest them is nothing to slate them on.

However I pointed out the press should be above this and actually do the job their paid to do.