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Offline pcm92

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Total War
« on: November 16, 2015, 01:18:54 am »
Anyone else play this series of games? If so, which is your favorite?

Offline Sharky

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Re: Total War
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2015, 03:03:38 am »
Anyone else play this series of games? If so, which is your favorite?

Yes, it is by far the most robust, most enthralling strategy series of all time. I highly recommend it.

Total War: Shogun 2 and its expansions are brilliant, especially for online multiplayer matches. And it is also the most accessible to new players, is if you're looking for a TW game to get into, it's this one. (Edo Japan setting.)
Total War: Attila is also brilliant. (Roman Empire/Ancient Europe setting.)
Total War: Medieval 2 is my favourite setting, (Medieval Europe) but it's quite dated now.

The only one I would avoid is Empires, which was never too great... Rome 2 launched with a lot of issues but has been patched since and is up to scratch with the rest, imo.

I am really, really excited for Total War: WarHammer, I began playing this series with the very first game, Shogun, and from the very moment I played it I wanted a fantasy setting... Finally it's coming!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mSGOxCDFRQ
« Last Edit: November 16, 2015, 03:07:45 am by Sharky »
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Offline Pao

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Re: Total War
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2015, 11:43:35 am »
Rome Total War  and Shogun 2 are the best.

Rome 2 was an utter disappointment at launch, but they improved the game immensely with patches...  Attila is CA learning from Rome 2's mistakes and making a better game.

ARENA is different from the main series, but it's a BLAST to play.  I've been in the Closed Alpha early this year and I can see this becoming a huge hit and a big money maker for SEGA. 

That said, I feel like I'm getting fed up of CA not taking the Total War formula to the next level... They concentrate on improving the presentation with each entry but the gameplay has largely remained the same, if not worse than early Total War games.

Some of the improvements I would like to see in the TW formula:

- The ability to have control on how many men in a unit.  I don't want to micro-manage 40 units of 160 men.  I want to have the freedom to choose how many men I put in a single unit.  If I want 4 units, with each having 600 men, I should be able to.   You might say "You can group the units" but it would mess up the formations, and when one unit wavers and routes, they will break-off separately... Battles become (unrealistically) chaotic with your 40 units spread over the battle map, ones are routing, ones are pursuing the enemy, etc... In real-life, armies routed, not individual "units". 

Next thing I want improved, is the formations. These played pivotal roles in real-life battles, but are not very useful in TW. For example, the Wedge formation... In real-life it was used break apart the enemy's formation, causing them to panic and flee.  In TW it's just a numerical CHARGE BONUS. The enemies don't really get any penalties for having their lines broken.   I feel the next step to improving the TW formula is to abandon these numerical bonuses and cool-down abilities in favor of an actual physics-based behaviors (Yes, I know they are also numerical under the hood).  For example, a heavily-armored soldier should have his own mass and momentum to push a lightly-armored soldier back. This was kind of present  in ROME 1 and Medieval 2 (Although it's unit based, not individual soldier based) but it's been gone from the series since then.  Which brings me to my other point:

They need to do away with the 1v1 "dueling" animations in battles.  It looks cool, but it doesn't work.  It kinda worked in Shogun2 since it's Samurai warfare, but elsewhere it just looks silly. A dude surrounded by 6 enemies, and they just take turns attacking him instead of ganging up on him?  This wasn't in ROME 1, but again, a result of their crappy Warscape engine.   I also think engagements should be physics-based too.  But I think it may be taxing on the computer's resources.

I could go on and on about the improvements I would like to see.  There's just so much potential in the TW formula, but CA is not taking advantage of that potential, which is a shame.  Probably because there is no competition on the market.  There has been a few clones, but they were fairly obscure.


EDIT: Dang, I can't believe I wrote this wall of text!
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Offline Sharky

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Re: Total War
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2015, 01:40:59 pm »
All the clones, like Mark of Chaos, have never even come close to being a challenger... There is no competition because even with room for improvement, it's a crazy complex series nobody else wants to even attempt to match.

I like your unit grouping idea but in the interest of history I'm not sure they would do it.

The duelling is cool, I hope it stays but needs to be revamped so that the animation stops when other enemies are near to attack, so there is no units idling.
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Offline CrazyT

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Re: Total War
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2015, 10:52:10 am »
The games are very time consuming is all I know. I wish I had the time

Offline pcm92

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Re: Total War
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2015, 08:57:04 pm »
Looks as though there will be more games named "Warhammer." I just wonder if these will all be in the same era.

Offline Sharky

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Re: Total War
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2015, 02:41:52 am »
Looks as though there will be more games named "Warhammer." I just wonder if these will all be in the same era.


There will be 3 TW:Warhammer games, they will act as stand alone expansions to each other, each game will expand the map of the previous game and add more races and factions to the overall campaign map.
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Offline MercenaryOne

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Re: Total War
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2015, 12:06:59 pm »
Medieval Total War 2 was and is by far the best of the series, but as previously mentioned it is dated. After that Rome 2 and Atilla, they run a lot slower and have some bugs that have been there forever and never fixed, so save often.