Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 1

[MadeManG74]

I agree that it was very cool to see the comparison, and it does validate the hardcore physics complaints, however his attitude towards the previewer being either an idiot or someone who have never played the classics is what made me dislike the video. It's the asshole "anybody who thinks differently is an idiot" mentality.

How about the "Anybody who thinks differently is just a whiner" mentality? Not pointing you you specifically, but there are two sides of this coin. People who support this game seem to ignore a lot of complaints and just rub it off as the person having a whinge.

In any event, I still haven't played it, so I  can't really contribute too much.  

[Mengels7]

Eh.  This was not worth staying up so late for.  It was not worth $15 either.  Maybe $5.  And it still isn't as fun as Sonic 3.  It doesn't feel right.  The stages are poorly designed as well.  And why am I fighting the same bosses I already beat years and years ago?  And the same enemies?  Sonic doesn't look cute or cool, he looks dumb.  I wish Sega had just taken the Mega Man 9 approach.  Fuck this.  I'm more excited for Sonic Colors somehow.

[ezodagrom]

A video that shows well some of the problems with Sonic 4 ep1 physics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyzC3Rse5Gg

[Barry the Nomad]

Now THAT'S how to do a physics comparison video!

However, I think episode 2 will do fine without a massive revamp. Perhaps upcoming software updates can tweak things that irk the picky fans.

I liked this comment from TSS's message boards:

In all seriousness though, I'm enjoying myself so far, even if the final boss is proving to be a bitch. No, the physics aren't right, but I honestly haven't encountered anything even close to gamebreaking, especially things like standing on loops and walls and such. Of course, this may be more due to me being a newer fan, and while I appreciated the classics, I'll take a game where fun is king. I think this is the case with Sonic 4, its just a fun, working game to play. Flawed, but damn fun.

Of course, I'd like to see the physics changed solely so that the ones alienated by this Episode can join in the fun. They're missing out on a good game here, which is a crying shame. And if a physics change can really make the game even more fun, then I am all for it.

[CrazyT]

I always wonder why so many people have problems with sonic 1. I honestly love it.

[Barry the Nomad]

I love Sonic 1, however I feel I was spoiled by the spindash and xxxtreme speeds of Sonic 2 and the epic plot of Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Going back to it after those, it's still an excellent game. But it feels slower and Sonic feels underpowered without all his later moves.

Still, I probably play through Sonic 1 more than any other Sonic game just because the zone progression is so natural.

[ezodagrom]

Now THAT'S how to do a physics comparison video!

However, I think episode 2 will do fine without a massive revamp. Perhaps upcoming software updates can tweak things that irk the picky fans.

I liked this comment from TSS's message boards:

In all seriousness though, I'm enjoying myself so far, even if the final boss is proving to be a bitch. No, the physics aren't right, but I honestly haven't encountered anything even close to gamebreaking, especially things like standing on loops and walls and such. Of course, this may be more due to me being a newer fan, and while I appreciated the classics, I'll take a game where fun is king. I think this is the case with Sonic 4, its just a fun, working game to play. Flawed, but damn fun.

Of course, I'd like to see the physics changed solely so that the ones alienated by this Episode can join in the fun. They're missing out on a good game here, which is a crying shame. And if a physics change can really make the game even more fun, then I am all for it.

About that quote, I have to say, even after getting used to the physics, I still didn't like them, but, everything else was quite fun  (except the repetitive final boss music).

Now to wait until christmas for me to actually get a wii and the game for myself (plus Sonic Colours). :<

[crackdude]

NO NO NOOOOOOOOOO
I WAS AT THE LAST BOSS WITH IN MY LAST LIFE WHAMMIN THAT BITCH. SUDDENLY THE FLOOR FALLS DOWN. WHY MEEE WHYYY!!

Btw, great game. I'm having so much fun.

[crackdude]

I just watched a video. [spoiler:3niuye2k]That's the fucking final blow? Seriously? That's fucking hardcore.[/spoiler:3niuye2k]

[SOUP]

I'm stuck on the Boss of Mad Gear

[CosmicCastaway]

I wish Sega had just taken the Mega Man 9 approach.  

I am actually really, really glad to see that Sonic 4 isn't like Mega Man 9. I hated what Mega Man 9 did to the classic Mega Man series. Sonic 4 keeps elements of the modern games while also paying tribute to the older games, something Mega Man 9 did not do in my opinion.

[fluffymoochicken]

I am actually really, really glad to see that Sonic 4 isn't like Mega Man 9. I hated what Mega Man 9 did to the classic Mega Man series. Sonic 4 keeps elements of the modern games while also paying tribute to the older games, something Mega Man 9 did not do in my opinion.

The logical flaw with your complaint is that there had been no "modern" games in the original Mega Man series. The previous game was for PS1 - ancient history in gaming terms.

[CosmicCastaway]

The logical flaw with your complaint is that there had been no "modern" games in the original Mega Man series. The previous game was for PS1 - ancient history in gaming terms.

True, but it just felt like a step backwards for the series. I loved Mega Man 7 & 8 more than the first three. In terms of game play I thought  the Mega Man games became more fun with each installment.
If they hadn't called the game "Mega Man 9" it probably wouldn't bug me as much.

[Barry the Nomad]

I get what you're saying Cosmic, Mega Man 9 is like if Sonic 4 resembled Sonic 1 or 2 (I'm talking full on 16-bit pixel art recreation, almost looking like a well implemented hack) and completely ignored what Sonic 3 did in evolving the look of the series.

If I wasn't aware of the series history and that the 9th game was a deliberate de-evolution of the graphics, I'd think the following progression of images were sorted wrong:

6:


7:


8:


9:

[Mengels7]

Well I loved Sonic 3.  It could have aimed for just a tad above that.