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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: STORM! on March 13, 2011, 03:43:44 am
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Yu Suzuki was born on the area affected by the earthquakes, and now he is looking for his parents.
大船渡市三陸町越喜来に在住の「鈴木タカ」の安否についてご存知の方がいらっしゃいましたら、ご連絡お願い致します。RTお願いいたします。 2:21 PM Mar 12th via Twitter for iPhone
http://twitter.com/yu_suzuki_jp (http://twitter.com/yu_suzuki_jp)
Suzuki Taka, resident at Oofunato-shi. Seems that its his mother >_<
He can't contact her...
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Man I feel bad about this :(. I really hope their allright. Poor Suzuki.
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Now this is where a prayer is all one can do.
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He said this: ありがとうございます。登録してみます。
What does it mean?
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He said this: ありがとうございます。登録してみます。
What does it mean?
""Thanks. I will register that.""
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I'm clueless.
I hope he does find his mother to be safe.
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I hope she's ok.
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Man, that's just dreadful... my heart goes out to his family and everyone over there and all their loved ones all over the world. It's such a big disaster it's hard to even grasp its magnitude all at once, it kind of effects me in waves.
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Thats terrible... Terrible news. I really hope he can find her but in the area Suzuki is from, if his mother was still living there it was hit really, really badly by the Tsunami...
Now this is where a prayer is all one can do.
You can donate money to the relief funds/charities listed on the front page.
It's 100% more effective then prayer. (In my opinion...)
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Thank you for posting those links on your front page--excellent job there, Segabits. Everyone can donate something--and with cell phones and the Internet, it's easy, it helps, and you know that even though you're thousands of miles away, you've done a little bit to assist.
Is this Twitter page for real? I mean, I know in the past people have falsified identities. Just want to make sure it's not some jerk trying to stir-up something. Terrible if true...
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His Twitter is listed on the YS site, isn't it? And also, Shenmue Gai is following him. So, yes, it's real.
I hope she's okay, and my heart goes out to everyone in Japan...such terrible news. :(
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Thats terrible... Terrible news. I really hope he can find her but in the area Suzuki is from, if his mother was still living there it was hit really, really badly by the Tsunami...
Now this is where a prayer is all one can do.
You can donate money to the relief funds/charities listed on the front page.
It's 100% more effective then prayer. (In my opinion...)
Nothing is going to be done without physical actions along the lines of donations and volunteer work.
For Japan right now, things can get much much worse given the possibility of Fukushima nuclear meltdown and having faith, and prayers are essential.
Psychological testing have shown that people recover faster who pray and have people praying for them, than those who don't.
Comparing physical work to spiritual belief's is weird they both work in conjunction.
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I've read plenty of studies that suggest prayer has no effect what-so-ever in any spiritual sense.
The only time prayer 'works' is when it induces the placebo effect... Similar to tests where people are given a 'placebo drug' that doesn't actually have any effect at all. If the patient feels as though they are taking something that will heal them they do slightly improve. If anything this demonstrates the amazing healing power of the brain, not anything spiritual or other worldly.
Likewise if someone believes prayer works for them and they know people are praying for them they will slightly improve.
I was very interested in the Placebo effect a couple of years back, but there is nothing spiritual about it I'm afraid...
It is my belief that if anything prayer is counterproductive, I mean, I bet there are thousands of people out there that think they can ‘pray’ and help people in disasters… Which is all very good intention but if they would instead do something practical… Something that actually works, I suspect there would be far more charitable donations, aid and ultimately the world would be a better place.
A major study of Christian intercessory prayer for cardiac patients has found no significant effect on reducing complications but patients who knew they were receiving the prayer had a slightly higher rate of complications.
Read more: http://www.beliefnet.com/News/2006/04/S ... z1Gmc59k5j (http://www.beliefnet.com/News/2006/04/Study-Intercessory-Prayer-Has-No-Major-Effect-On-Recovery.aspx#ixzz1Gmc59k5j)
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Yeah, I avoided saying "pray" in my article mentioning the disaster since I think it does nothing. Consider this: we are way over here, they are way over there. Neither of us speak the same language. When I head home and say a prayer, is does absolutely nothing for them. However, a donation to the Red Cross actually does something.
I do, however, believe the term "keep them in your thoughts" is far better, as it means when you're going about your disaster-free day, remember that people elsewhere aren't doing so well. I kept Japan in my thoughts, and during my lunchtime I did some googling about the disaster and found that Capcom are giving their Street Fighter IV App sales to charity. Downloaded and a bit more money went towards the cause.
praying: 0
thoughts: 1
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I personally like the term hope for the best, or hoping for the best. but "keep them in your thoughts" is a good one too.
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It's a matter of believing in a higher power. Some believe that all these natural disasters come from god himself with a reason. Today I read in a newspaper some japanese guy saying, "god punished us for being people filled with greed" and I think this guy wasn't even religious.
Anyway about the prayer thing. I sorta believe in it. It's like showing god how much you care for a certain someone and "hope" for a miracle. Donating or praying, you could always do both so.
Suzuki really doesn't deserve it.
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I wish cube never said anything, I knew this would lead to everyone pushing their beliefs on others. Let's just leave it.
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Well how was I supposed to know people are so anti-faith here?
What perplexes me is that some people here think that those who pray don't do anything but pray, that's not how it works.
God helps those who help themselves.
We made the post for donations, I am sure several people have donated as well. But in their churches, temples, mosques or their own homes people are praying that God gives strength to those who are suffering and not bring them anymore pain, I don't find that counterproductive.
When we were hit by storms last year, all the money in the world couldn't stop the storms where money and donations did play a role was in food, shelter and reconstruction.
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I wish cube never said anything, I knew this would lead to everyone pushing their beliefs on others. Let's just leave it.
I'm not pushing my beliefs I'm pushing the latest scientific findings...
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I wish cube never said anything, I knew this would lead to everyone pushing their beliefs on others. Let's just leave it.
I'm not pushing my beliefs I'm pushing the latest scientific findings...
Science did not confirm or deny that Prayer does not work.
In a way, Ryan, you are pushing your atheist beliefs not just in this thread, but a lot of times when someone brings up a religious statement, if you don't like it just scroll down, you don't have to derail threads just to tell people their faith is wrong.
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I am not spiritual at all, but honestly, this discussion going on just hurts me on so many levels.
Do people here truly believe that millions of people who want to help, but cannot pay are just useless in a cause like this? That just because they care it should not matter? That might be the most heartless thing I have ever heard anyone say in a pretty long time.
Sometimes it takes more than just MONEY to help out, and it is sad I have to point this out.
I can deal with little jabs towards one another, but this is to much of the world, saying they are basically a waste of space. I am not sure if this forum is for me anymore if an admin is going to constantly push beliefs like that to be quite frank.
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Alright, why don't we all drop it. This isn't the context/thread for something like this, anyhow. If we're to have a discussion, it should go into the "Everything Else" board, eh?
(Religion is one of those things that nearly everyone feels strongly about and it's difficult not to respond with your opinion.)
Has there been any more updates about Yu Suzuki's mother?
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http://twitter.com/yu_suzuki_jp (http://twitter.com/yu_suzuki_jp)
Google translator suggests that he is only talking about the food he is eating.
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Well, that could be good news. I mean, if my mother went missing I probably wouldn't tweet about hamburgers. Though I still hope that everything is okay and that she was found safe.
We love Yu!
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The last tweet was on March 8th.
I'm pretty sure that's before the Earthquake.
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Wait, what? You're right! Looks like tweets were deleted??
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He probably figured Twitter wasn't the best place to post about his personal life?
Still as Barry said we love Yu.
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I am not spiritual at all, but honestly, this discussion going on just hurts me on so many levels.
Do people here truly believe that millions of people who want to help, but cannot pay are just useless in a cause like this? That just because they care it should not matter? That might be the most heartless thing I have ever heard anyone say in a pretty long time.
Sometimes it takes more than just MONEY to help out, and it is sad I have to point this out.
What are you even talking about; nobody said anything like that...
My argument is that prayer ISN'T the only thing you can do as was suggested.
You can also donate and it'll be much more affective... In my opinion.
If you can't afford to contribute that's fine, many wont, shit I can't really afford too... (But I have) As Barry said it's fine to simply say 'they are in my thoughts' or what ever.
I'm not pushing anything on anyone but I DO believe that there are probably people out there that have enough money to contribute but believe so much in the power of prayer that they'll pray instead of donating... Which I believe won’t help and in this case where every little donation helps I'd say it is counter productive.
I'm not sure how I'm pushing my belief at all, If someone can say on a forum that prayer will help, SURELY I can say 'no it wont'... I'm no more pushing my argument then anyone that says otherwise.
If someone tells me that sciences say prayer helps surely I can present the argument that it doesn't... I don't see how I'm being anymore pushy then anyone else.
I can deal with little jabs towards one another, but this is to much of the world, saying they are basically a waste of space. I am not sure if this forum is for me anymore if an admin is going to constantly push beliefs like that to be quite frank.
Who said anyone was a waste of space... You are putting words in my mouth.
Isn't it a bit funny you've suddenly turn into a holier than thou type when you have a chance to take a crack at me but the same guy was literally bullying other forum members less then a year ago and when given the chance actually deleted certain members posts and replaced them with insulting phrases...
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I'm sorry, but asking God to do something isn't going to do shit. Face facts. Don't say that "This proves it" because all prove is against it. Donate money if you want to help. Majority of the people in Japan are either Atheist or Buddhist, so according to your scripture, they are going to go to hell. Isn't that a merciful God?
Look, its great that you believe in a higher power, but don't preach and don't tell people that its the only thing you can do for people when its not true. As for everyone that is offended by Sharky stating facts, we live in a world where facts are greater than made up things. Funny how it was OK to state something about religion, but against it is taboo?
I hope Yu Suzuki finds his parents.
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I do not give a shit about religion, it is how Sharky treats people in general, I am pretty sick of it. Saying "Giving money is 100% more effective than praying" multiple times is the same as saying anyone without money is not doing anything. His comments against religion that he has said in the past and how he has singled out people so many times are pretty rough anyways, so I do not care to argue that point further when we all know.
I like how he brings up old arguments about me goofing off. We all know I can go overboard, sometimes way too far, but I have always apologized for it on here. Always. And I have helped you guys do a lot of things too. I assumed Sharky could move on, but he loves conflict more than anything and goes out of the way to make it last as long as possible, unless there was any other good reason to keep Fluffy on the forums for so long?
This is bullshit. I cannot believe I asked multiple members to stay on these forums because I thought it would get better.
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Best wishes to Suzuki.
Arguing about religion vs science in a thread about someone's missing parents is like the most sega-nerds thing you could have brought over to Sega Bits with you (Kogen aside).
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I just hate it when video game enthusiasts try to delve into serious social, political and religious debates... it's f'ing awful
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People are always free to leave. No more religious talk.
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I just hate it when video game enthusiasts try to delve into serious social, political and religious debates... it's f'ing awful
Videogames are only a hobby of mine... A shrinking hobby at that.
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I do not give a shit about religion, it is how Sharky treats people in general, I am pretty sick of it. Saying "Giving money is 100% more effective than praying" multiple times is the same as saying anyone without money is not doing anything.
No, no it isn't.
You are AGAIN putting words in my mouth.
I don't know how many times I have said this, in this thread that if you cannot afford to donate money that is totally fine. My point is that in my opinion it is going to do more then praying... Why am I not aloud to have my say here?
His comments against religion that he has said in the past and how he has singled out people so many times are pretty rough anyways, so I do not care to argue that point further when we all know.
I have not singled anyone out, talk about pot calling the kettle black. You have singled people out and bullied them to a point they have almost left the forum.
I like how he brings up old arguments about me goofing off. We all know I can go overboard, sometimes way too far, but I have always apologized for it on here. Always.
You are trying to excuse yourself by saying you were 'goofing off' Thats interesting, considering you personally have done the worst thing of ANY one on this forum so far, including Fuzzy... We had an error, you got mod powers and used them to actually bully and edit offensive things into there peoples posts.
I assumed Sharky could move on, but he loves conflict more than anything and goes out of the way to make it last as long as possible, unless there was any other good reason to keep Fluffy on the forums for so long?
Did you really just 'assume' I could move on and then bring up Fluffy in the same paragraph?
I kept him around for the same reason I kept Kogen and Segakid on the forum for as long as we did, because I don't LIKE to ban people... Its the same reason I didn't ban you RIGHT away when you shit up our forums.
This is bullshit. I cannot believe I asked multiple members to stay on these forums because I thought it would get better.
Yep.
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I knew this would end in a huge argument. I would also like to note I didn't point out anyone in particular as 'pushing their beliefs', but as you can see it ended with most people jumping in with their opinion on religions and then escalating to where it's nearly personal attacks.
Like George said, lets leave any more arguments for MSN or PMs. I find that those methods are much better at actually resolving an argument than forum posts anyway.
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Fair enough, in fact we don't even know for sure if this is true (Yu Suzukis mother) and I don't know how much of a good idea it is to have such a rumour spreading on our forum so I think I'll lock this thread.
If someone wants to unlock it, do so.
If any hard evidence comes to light, make a new thread.