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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Chaosmaster8753 on April 25, 2011, 03:44:07 pm
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Like the title implies, are there any games from SEGA that aren't Sonic games that you don't like that much?
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Iron Man
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I assume you mean out of their franchises? That is tough, are we looking at the overall franchise? If we are I never got much enjoyment out of Eternal Champions, it is okay, and definitely better than Killer Instinct, but it isn't Street Fighter.
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I suspect you are looking for series that are otherwise quite popular amongst the fans.
For me it's Ecco... I never really got into it.
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Really tough, as even if I don't enjoy one aspect of a SEGA franchise, I'll like something else... but if I had to choose I'd say Ferrari F355 Challenge or Toe Jam & Earl.
Ferrari F355 Challenge, I love the music, the graphics, the fact that Yu Suzuki was behind it. But when I've played it at the arcades, I'm shit. Maybe because I'm not used to realistic racers and need to get the Dreamcast version for some at home play.
Toe Jam & Earl, again I love everything about them except cannot understand how to play the game. Again, I'll have to force myself to give it a try again. Maybe I need to read a manual.
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Golden Axe.
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Hmmm tough one... Nights actually
We got the saturn game when it came out. Never really understood it's apeal apart from having good music. The gameplay just feels so.. meaningless
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Yeah, Golden Axe is one of those franchises that weren't really that fun to begin with, they were hard as heck. I don't think they were that worthy of having a "Legendary Sega IP" moniker attached to it.
The first game is pretty hard and quite honestly I don't think I finished any of those, well except the Secret Level spin-off game that everyone hates.
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Can't say I'm much of a fan of Bayonetta. No matter how much I try I just can't get into it.
Nights 2 didn't exactly give me a great impression of the Nights series either. But I haven't played the first one so that might be a bit unfair.
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Hmmm tough one... Nights actually
We got the saturn game when it came out. Never really understood it's apeal apart from having good music. The gameplay just feels so.. meaningless
OWWWWWWWW. OWWWWWW. That hurts. I know people who consider that the best game of all time, and it's in my top 10. :cry: The gameplay is kind of pointless, but so is every other games' really, the game is fun that's why I love it. I mean, you and I are playing Spiral Knights right now, why? Because it's fun, there doesn't seem to be much of a point.
Yeah, Golden Axe is one of those franchises that weren't really that fun to begin with, they were hard as heck. I don't think they were that worthy of having a "Legendary Sega IP" moniker attached to it.
I agree with this, it is a solid franchise in my opinion, but it is not Streets of Rage, nor Final Fight. It just simply wasn't as good as its' competitors during the same era, but I still feel they are fairly good games.
Can't say I'm much of a fan of Bayonetta. No matter how much I try I just can't get into it.
Nights 2 didn't exactly give me a great impression of the Nights series either. But I haven't played the first one so that might be a bit unfair.
You didn't like Bayonetta? :shock: Doesn't burn as much as CrazyTails' choice.
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Ferrari F355 Challenge, I love the music, the graphics, the fact that Yu Suzuki was behind it. But when I've played it at the arcades, I'm shit. Maybe because I'm not used to realistic racers and need to get the Dreamcast version for some at home play.
Exactly! this would be my choice too!
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Ferrari F355 is very hardcore and very sim-like. It's not made for most people who want to go to the arcade and play OutRun or Daytona. I had a friend who is really into his racing sims try it out at the arcades and he was really impressed.
I think it's a real testament to yu Suzuki's skills that he can make arcade racers the quality of OutRun and then change gears and make a sim racer like F355 Challenge so high-quality as well. Truly amazing.
I agree with this, it is a solid franchise in my opinion, but it is not Streets of Rage, nor Final Fight. It just simply wasn't as good as its' competitors during the same era, but I still feel they are fairly good games.
While I still think that Golden Axe isn't fun to play at all, it's not really fair to compare it to Streets of Rage. Golden Axe was from 1989 whereas SOR Came out 2 years later. They obviously had a lot to build on.
It IS fair to rag on Golden Axe 2 and 3 though, since they seem to get worse as the series goes on. Regardless, I just never have been able to have fun with Golden Axe, the hit detection and cheapo enemies are just no fun at all for me. I know Snaus will be here to defend it soon anyway, which is good because I'd like to see the opposite opinion.
Can't say I'm much of a fan of Bayonetta. No matter how much I try I just can't get into it.
Nights 2 didn't exactly give me a great impression of the Nights series either. But I haven't played the first one so that might be a bit unfair.
RE: Bayonetta; I don't think we can be friends anymore.
RE: NiGHTS; NiGHTS 2 is a collossal piece of horse-shit. The first game is where it's at. That's like saying you don't like Sonic the Hedgehog because you only played Sonic 2006.
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I don't really have a SEGA franchise I dislike, I've enjoyed every SEGA game I've ever played.
I do however want to say that I really enjoy the Golden Axe games, including the more recent installment. It seems like that is the game series people are picking the most as their least favorite.
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OWWWWWWWW. OWWWWWW. That hurts. I know people who consider that the best game of all time, and it's in my top 10. :cry: The gameplay is kind of pointless, but so is every other games' really, the game is fun that's why I love it. I mean, you and I are playing Spiral Knights right now, why? Because it's fun, there doesn't seem to be much of a point.
I know that there is a great passionate fanbase for the series but Apart from the music and atmosphere, the gameplay doesn't really offer much that other games offer 10x better and fun. I think all you did was Flying around collecting and chaining points. I did find some enjoyment after doing it awhile and tried to do stages as slick as possible, but that only lasted for once or twice.
Flying around didn't bring much gameplay with it in a 2d view. A normal game would require some avoiding and beating. Nights kept it really simple and I just couldn't dig it.
The bosses were amazing, i'll give u that. But that's like the whole thing. The game should've had that kind of challenge throughout the game of some sort. I am open to a lot of games in general, but I always want at least the feel of hastle/sruggle (fair struggle) going through a game.
I do recognize that it's an original game but if I have to pick game with a sense of flying in a game form, panzerdragoon is where it's at for me.
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Giant Post
I pretty much agree with this, as a fan of racing sims F355 is absolutely fantastic. In regards to Golden Axe, I was just referring to the series overall, not a specific title within it. I never played three but I can still get enjoyment out of the first and second, they are solid enjoyable titles I think, just not great.
I don't really have a SEGA franchise I dislike, I've enjoyed every SEGA game I've ever played.
I do however want to say that I really enjoy the Golden Axe games, including the more recent installment. It seems like that is the game series people are picking the most as their least favorite.
I chose Eternal Champions, I can get some basic enjoyment out of it but at best it's definitely just an above average game. Just thought of a SEGA title I cannot get any enjoyment out of though; Altered Beast. Am I the only one here who thinks so? Surprised nobody else mentioned it.
Painful heartbreaking post
This hurts worse than the first. The game is definitely about getting better and better scores through levels, but that creates a ton of replay value. When I first introduced a friend to SEGA he started with Sonic 2, which was actually the first game I ever played, and he ended up getting a Genesis. One time though, I was trying to do a video review of Nights Into Dreams for SegaFanatic, he happened to be over at the time and I was freaking out trying to figure out a way to properly classify and explain the gameplay. I took a break and passed the controller off to him and he pretty much instantly fell in love, if I were to call him and ask him for his favorite SEGA game of all time he would respond Nights, he might even say it was his best game of all time.
In regards to the review, I really couldn't describe the game in a manner I felt adequate about, so I gave up and we did Valkyria Chronicles instead, he co-reviewed it with me since he had already beaten it before too. It's on Youtube for anyone bored enough to watch a 8 minute VC review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12aM--goVvg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12aM--goVvg)
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Painful heartbreaking? Ah man I feel bad now :cry: Can't you understand me a little bit? I can imagine Nights apealing to a pretty small audience.
I do apreciate your passion that it kind of made me want to give it another go. It could be that I was maybe in the wrong mood for the game. I vaguely remember my last playthrough. I always seemed to skip it when i'm in a saturn mood.
I do recall a feeling of satisfaction but that could be the case with any game. I'll however tell u what I think about it when I do play it. Maybe at spiralknights but we'll see
PS: Valkyria chronicles is after Yakuza my favourite SEGA serie.*watches review*
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Painful heartbreaking? Ah man I feel bad now :cry: Can't you understand me a little bit? I can imagine Nights apealing to a pretty small audience.
I do apreciate your passion that it kind of made me want to give it another go. It could be that I was maybe in the wrong mood for the game. I vaguely remember my last playthrough. I always seemed to skip it when i'm in a saturn mood.
I do recall a feeling of satisfaction but that could be the case with any game. I'll however tell u what I think about it when I do play it. Maybe at spiralknights but we'll see
PS: Valkyria chronicles is after Yakuza my favourite SEGA serie.*watches review*
Haha, do give it another try sometime. I mean I really disliked Metroid Prime, but I still forced myself to finish it. I am like that with a ton of games though, I will force myself to make significant process/beat a game I find bad if everybody else says it is good, just so I can make sure of my opinion. I also listen to terrible, crappy mainstream music too, so that I at least know what I am talking about next time I flip a fan some crap.
As for the review sorry for the quality, I've been told it was good but I am not super confident in how well it was done. I had just finished trying to review Nights, it was around 4 AM, and that review was done in one take. One idea I had that I liked at SEGA Fanatic was all the staff members played the roles of washed up/forgotten SEGA characters from Genesis titles: I was Taro Yamada of Rent A Hero, Richard was Larcen Tyler of Eternal Champions, Naveed was Sketch Turner of Comix Zone and Phil was Kid Chameleon (Chameleon Kid depending on region). We also had a running joke that Sketch Turner felt inadequate about his game not being on the 32X. My final touch was the banners checker design being a reference to Sega Master System box-art, I liked that quite a bit.
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Monkey Ball... the franchise sucks.
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Monkey Ball... the franchise sucks.
Did you play the first two? or are you making the judgment off the DS, 3DS versions or Adventure?
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Monkey Ball... the franchise sucks.
Did you play the first two? or are you making the judgment off the DS, 3DS versions or Adventure?
I played the first or the second on the arcade, can't remember exactly. It's nice, but nothing special to me. But when I saw Banana Blitz on Wii I was really disappointed: very difficult, boring and it sucked! And after hearing MeeMee's voice in SEGA Superstars Tennis I knew definitely, that this franchise sucks even more :mrgreen:
I've never seen Monkey Ball Step & Roll, but according to reviews it's not that good and it even sold bad. Even the 3DS game sold bad till now. So that let me guess that Monkey Ball isn't loved at all by the great mass of casual gamers.
What I don't like is that SEGA treatens the game as if it would be a very beloved SEGA franchise. The Wii launches and SEGA brings a MB, the 3DS launches and SEGA brings a MB, WP7 launches and SEGA brings a MB. It's christmas and SEGA sends a christmas card with AiAi on it, as if it would be a great representative of SEGA games. The last sales showed that Monkey Ball isn't that hit game SEGA wants it to be.
I think howewer it fits good for mobile phones and when I'll try out it on WP7 in the future maybe I change my opinion about the game. But till that, I don't like the franchise much.
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Man, that's so fucking easy to answer!!
ALL THE SPORTS TITLES FROM SEGA!
- J-League Pro-Soccer Club wo Tsukurou! series;
- Football Manager series;
- Baseball Team wo Tsukurou! series;
- Starhorse series;
...there's no end!
I also hate the card games from Sega, the ones that saved the arcades market in Japan:
- Sangokushi Taisen
- WCCF
- Sengoku Taisen
- Key of Avalon
Hates the kids games from Sega too:
-Mushiking
-Love & Berry
-Dinosaur King
-Lilpri
and many more...
RTS is also the worst genre EVER on the gaming world!
-Total War series;
-Hundred Swords;
-etc...
One by each console:
-Master-System = Psycho Fox (horrible)
-Mega-Drive = Alex Kidd (terrible)
-Saturn = Shin Shinobiden (disgusting)
-Dreamcast = Eternal Arcadia (what a waste of money)
Sega makes a lot of bad games too...
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RTS is also the worst genre EVER on the gaming world!
-Total War series;
-Hundred Swords;
-etc...
(http://http://i51.tinypic.com/260zt60.gif)
Also Total War isn't an RTS anyway so....
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You don't like Skies of Arcadia Storm?
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Oh, I hate Eternal Arcadia. And Valkyria Chronicles.
2 big shit games from Sega... -__-
Phantasy Star 4>> Sakura Taisen>>∞ Eternal Arcadia>> Valkyria Chronicles.
All these games were made basically by the same team.
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^Wait... Skies of Arcadia? I am afraid we have to kill you now storm.
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^Wait... Skies of Arcadia? I am afraid we have to kill you now storm.
Just do what I do and hate Sakura Taisen in return :twisted:
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So what? That game is really poor!
Graphics are worse than PS1 (it was released pratically at the same time of FF9).
No songs with lyrics.
No high quality CG movies (too bad Marza does not existed at that time).
Boring battle system (see Phantasy Star 4 plz!).
The story was supposed to be something serious or what? Stupid plot... (Sakura Taisen feeling plz! Is what I've expected).
The characters... a bunch of emos... not for me -__-
I liked the special super moves though...
Don't ask me about Valkyria again! I have wrote my thoughts about that shitty series somewhere here on this forum.
EDIT: THE WORST! "This is our answer to FF7", said Sega at that time. LOLOLOLOLOL!
They said that because Sega has cancelled PS5 for Saturn after seeing FF7 for the PS1...
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^Wait... Skies of Arcadia? I am afraid we have to kill you now storm.
Just do what I do and hate Sakura Taisen in return :twisted:
No problems, sir. Seems that Sega has lost completely the rights over the series now...
Sadly, of course -__-
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STORM, no accounting for taste, but Hundred Swords and Arcadia are two excellent titles in many ways, and there were so made in SEGA titles in the present day!, also saw what other games are released more or less simultaneously.
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Don't try to understand STORMs taste, he is Japanese after all! =D
I'm glad to see so many people feel the same way as I do about Golden Axe, I just could NEVER get into it and found it really boring... I still remember being double teamed by Aki and Sanus about how wrong I am for disliking it.
That said I did like the idea of the series returning but Secret Level really shat on it. I'm still so gald they have been disbanded.
I wouldn't mind seeing Creative Assemblys console/action team have a go at giving it a reboot. I think they could make a good game of it.
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I get what STORM's saying about Skies of Arcadia's battle system. As much as I enjoyed the game, the battle system never really stuck out as all that special to me. I did enjoy the SP moves though.
Again I'll state that I really enjoyed the game overall, just for the record.
As far as SEGA games that I've never really been able to get into. Probably the original Space Harrier and Afterburner games. I really enjoy the newer takes (Planet Harriers and Afterburner Climax), but I always found the older ones don't really do it for me.
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Well, I have Japanese blood, but Ryan is English, and hates Golden Axe.
It automatically shows that Ryan has tastes worsier than mine.
I doubt Creative Assembly could do a better action game than Golden Axe ;p (or Bayonetta, or Kunoichi) ;pp
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It's interesting to see how people here are really choosing some titles I would've never expected as least favorites. Like before I can't say that there is a SEGA game/series I've disliked because every SEGA game I've played I had a good ol' time.
Since we keep mentioning Golden Axe, I have a question. Has anyone played Golden Axe Warrior for the Sega Master System? It takes the Legend of Zelda gameplay and kinda does it's own version of it. It's great fun and very challenging.
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I can understand the dislike of Golden Axe, though Ryan you misinterpreted mine and Aki's feelings for it, we were not mad at you for disliking it, but HOW you were saying it was bad annoyed us. Your point was that you just played Streets of Rage first, which is silly as you should be able to compare it separately being how much older it is. I used to dislike it too, but now it is one of my favorite SEGA IPs in a lot of ways.
What I love about Golden Axe is how deep it is on so many levels. The detail was stunning, the world was very creative, the way weapons worked was realistic with the use of everything from the tip, middle and hilt of the weapons, the characters are very diverse and creative (especially for the time), the setting is very dark but at the end of it all you find out it is a silly arcade game that some kids were playing - Always makes me smile.
I think conceptually that Golden Axe would be blowing minds if it came out now. The way how you must search the lands for giant beasts to cross rivers and gorges to reach the Death=Adder, or how he was formed by a group of demonic snakes. Even something like just setting up camp when the sun drops would just be so awesome.
Anyone who is not really a fan of the series should check out Golden Axe: The Revenge of Death=Adder on MAME. I guarantee you will be into that if you liked Streets of Rage in comparison. It is the true sequel.
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As for a major SEGA series I do not like?
I do not like the way Valkyria Chronicles is progressing and I absolutely hate Jet Set Radio. I like the music and general style, but not the gameplay, level design or how "Slow" and strange the game gets so much. Strange, because I really like the sequel a lot. It especially bugs me when people think Jet Set Radio stuff is basically what all SEGA games should be like.
I could give my reasons and stuff, but I do not think it matters much. Especially after how crazy Storm's views on Skies of Arcadia are. Bad graphics? LOLWUT
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You hated JSR? I don't remember you ever telling me that, but I'm sure you must have in the past. I'm surprised at that one to be honest. Interesting that you liked JSRF by comparison too.
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OK, where. the. fuck. am. I. Skies of Arcadia, Nights into Dreams, Valkyria, JET SET RADIO? WHAT?! WHAT?!
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These are some of the best games of all time : (. Why can't we be like the Nintendo fanboys who all like the same games.. The zombies.
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I just do not get why people like Jet Set Radio at all, and I have beaten it three times to try and force it onto me, but still nothing. I have problems with almost everything in the game, even little things like having trouble getting off of rails pisses me off beyond belief. Most of Jet Set Radio Future felt better to me, like in that example if you clicked the left stick in, you got off of the rail. It was also open world, so while there were things that required timing and such, you still could do it how you wanted to. It was also pretty fun to mess around and not have to worry about your score.
Valkyria I can understand why people like, but I really especially hate the way the series is progressing. Weird annoying Japanese shit, Sakura Taisen never got this strange and awkward.
Otherwise I can usually see what people like about certain games. It took me awhile to "Get" stuff like NiGHTS into Dreams, but once I did, I loved it. Jet Set Radio I liked initially but has annoyed me more and more every time I tried to play it again. I have nothing against people who like it, just people who want ALL of SEGA's games to be like it.
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Bayonetta; I don't think we can be friends anymore.
NiGHTS; NiGHTS 2 is a collossal piece of horse-shit. The first game is where it's at. That's like saying you don't like Sonic the Hedgehog because you only played Sonic 2006.
Bayonetta: Bleh. Overrated combat system, annoying characters, long load times, irritating music. Nah thanks. 8-)
Nights 2; lol remember everyone bashing me at Sega.com for disliking it? People may now love to hate Nights 2 but lol I thought that from the start.
I do agree though that you're probably right, I'm sure the 1st game is better.
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Sanus should be banned for this witchery.
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Sanus should be banned for this witchery.
He's not the only one, Skies hate? NIGHTS HATE? Astonishing.
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lol at people getting sensetive over others having different opinions on games.
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lol at people getting sensetive over others having different opinions on games.
Go over to GoNintendo and tell them you think Ocarina of Time is overrated, say that you still like it but that it is overrated. You think this is anything? You will likely get a flat out ban over there.
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lol at people getting sensitive over others having different opinions on games.
Go over to GoNintendo and tell them you think Ocarina of Time is overrated, say that you still like it but that it is overrated. You think this is anything? You will likely get a flat out ban over there.
Wow, the admins there actually do that? Then again, I don't post much there, I mostly just go there for the news.
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lol at people getting sensitive over others having different opinions on games.
Go over to GoNintendo and tell them you think Ocarina of Time is overrated, say that you still like it but that it is overrated. You think this is anything? You will likely get a flat out ban over there.
Wow, the admins there actually do that? Then again, I don't post much there, I mostly just go there for the news.
I know people in the IRC who have received "flamebait" warnings for saying the lesser Nintendo titles are overrated, I don't know anybody who said OOT was overrated publicly, but if a thread like this was made and the first post was "I think OOT is overrated", it'd likely get locked with a very high potential for the person who posted it getting a kick to the curbside.
I guess what I can walk away from this thread with though is SEGA gamers are a lot more individualistic than Nintendo gamers, Nintendo fans have a tendency to like all the same games. Still I think people saying Skies of Arcadia and some of the other games mentioned are bad games are off-base, they are well crafted titles even if they don't particularly like them. I hate RTS games, Total War is still well put together.
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Nintendo fans take that shit seriously. I once told one that I thought Golden Eye was boring, never got into. I also wasn't too much into OOT. Actually I hated the N64 era. I sold my N64 (I got one for 40 dollars in its hay day) because I never played it. With it I got some imported Saturn and PSone games.
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Whilst were on the subject of Nintendo fans, I was banned from the official Nintendo forums back when they existed for saying Damn... yeah damn...
The next thing I know five of them jumped me and were going
'I'm PMing the admins!' so I was banned with in about 3 hours of signing up.
I also got kicked from the GoNintendo IRC Chatroom for saying I like Sega games more then Nintnedo games.
Oh and the threads on that forum were ALWAYS a good laugh:
(http://http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/4605/nintendoforums1.jpg)
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I can understand the dislike of Golden Axe, though Ryan you misinterpreted mine and Aki's feelings for it, we were not mad at you for disliking it, but HOW you were saying it was bad annoyed us. Your point was that you just played Streets of Rage first, which is silly as you should be able to compare it separately being how much older it is. I used to dislike it too, but now it is one of my favorite SEGA IPs in a lot of ways.
I understand your feelings although just to clear up. I played Golden Axe before Streets of Rage. Actually GA and Sonic 1 were the first Sega games I ever played.
You're argument was that, I was comparing GA to SoR2 and there was a long gap between these games release dates. But my reply was that for me, because I played them very close togeather so to me, as a child it was really one or the other and I much prefered SoR2 and even today SoR2 stood the test of time and is great fun to play, GA feels dated and doesn't hold my interest at all.
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Bayonetta: Bleh. Overrated combat system, annoying characters, long load times, irritating music. Nah thanks. 8-)
Overrated combat system I have to disagree with. I found it to be incredibly fun and versatile, but to each his own. Annoying Characters comes down to personal taste. Long loading I have no idea what you are talking about, but irritating music???
How can you say anything bad about music that contains 'Fly me to the moon', and remixes of Afterburner and Splash Wave!?
Also, you are probably right about NiGHTS 2, I think I didn't mind it much back when it first came out either. I always hated the cut-scenes and the platforming, but the flying was okay. The more I look back on it though, the worse it seems.
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Shenmue.
Awful voice acting, too many loading screens, tedious missions, open world was very restricted, NO ENDING, frivolous collectibles.
(http://http://i52.tinypic.com/m7aogn.jpg)
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Nintendo fans take that shit seriously.
I'm a Nintendo fan, but I don't take that seriously.
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I literally wrote up a post arguing this then went back and saw this, which I missed the first time around because after reading the first sentence I had already hit quote, smooth.
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Whats the deal with shenmue? u cant even steal cars and it doesnt even have a jump butten.
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How can you say anything bad about music that contains 'Fly me to the moon', and remixes of Afterburner and Splash Wave!?
hahaha Mademan I'm pretty sure we've had this exact discussion in the past. 8-) I think so, anyway. If not it was with someone else.
Fly Me to the Moon was amusing the 1st time it was played....by around the 20th time I got kinda tired of it. :x
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Whats the deal with shenmue? u cant even steal cars and it doesnt even have a jump butten.
Yeah, and using the Virtua Fighter combat engine? Worst 3D fighting game ever.
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@-nSega54-
I kinda know where you're getting at. The "plot" is all over the place, the whole smutty b-movie porn feel of Bayonetta can rub people the wrong way, the god-awful dialogue just waiting to turn into an Internet meme. And frankly a lot of the trailers made the game look like a run-of-the-mill action game, when in fact it's was more like an R-rated Super Mario Galaxy.
This might shock people, but I loved 90% of Vanquish, but towards the end, I felt I got slapped in the face.
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@-nSega54-
I kinda know where you're getting at. The "plot" is all over the place, the whole smutty b-movie porn feel of Bayonetta can rub people the wrong way, the god-awful dialogue just waiting to turn into an Internet meme. And frankly a lot of the trailers made the game look like a run-of-the-mill action game, when in fact it's was more like an R-rated Super Mario Galaxy.
This might shock people, but I loved 90% of Vanquish, but towards the end, I felt I got slapped in the face.
spoilers:
[spoiler:2inh6m54]Do you mean because of the betrayal? Why do you feel like you got slapped in the face? You mean it was just too obvious of a plot twist? The games' plot is totally corny, that was intentional. Mikami has a sense of humor like that.
Also Bayonetta has intentionally corny dialog. You should watch the commentary videos that Kamiya just posted.[/spoiler:2inh6m54]
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How can you say anything bad about music that contains 'Fly me to the moon', and remixes of Afterburner and Splash Wave!?
hahaha Mademan I'm pretty sure we've had this exact discussion in the past. 8-) I think so, anyway. If not it was with someone else.
Fly Me to the Moon was amusing the 1st time it was played....by around the 20th time I got kinda tired of it. :x
Maybe I'm bias because Fly me to the Moon is my favourite song (any version I've heard of it, I've liked).
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The story of Vanquish was just completely awful, whereas Bayonetta was at least interesting and had a conclusion. Still a good game regardless, I guess.
But anyways, this is what I love about SEGA. Just how crazy diverse they are. It is not a big deal if I do not like Jet Set or Sharky does not like Ecco or Storm is completely insane. Not everyone is going to like the same games, which is why I can see why people do not like Nintendo, or Square-Enix, Ubisoft, or Namco or the million other publishers with completely predictable releases. Though, I still like all of those publishers too in one way or another.
GAMES ARE FUN.
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I'm the only one Sega fan completely SANE on this forum.
Just saying...
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I'm the only one Sega fan completely SANE on this forum.
Just saying...
Conform...Conform.
;)
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Going back to JSR, I could see how it can be disliked. Great music, great artstyle and visuals BUT it is slow. I booted up the game last September and I was amazed at how slow it feels, I could have sworn if was faster back in 2000. Considering they're on rocket skates, you'd think they'd go a bit faster. Garam and Pots are, I think, the fastest characters so I generally play as them. Combo? NO WAY!
However, I do love the gameplay and enjoyed the level design. It's funny, because JSRF addressed the speed issue by making the characters truly fast but junked up the gameplay. Sort of a trade off I guess. Fast skating, but no graffifi joystick moves or boss battles occurring during gameplay.
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The Main reason I liked JSR more than JSR:F was because its slow, to be more precise, I liked tagging with the analog stick and found it fun/challenging.
JSRF took all that out and it became more simplified, I still love the game, but I like JSR more.
I thought it had better levels as well (Also, CAPTAIN ONISHIMA!)
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Talking about JSR, I have a trauma with the remake/sequel or whatever that was.
There is a stage where you grind over buildings... can't remember exactly; I hate higher places >_<
When first time playing that stage, I was like: "WTF"!? It cant be true..."
I think I'm too much sensitive on 3D games. I really can feel my stomach when jumping from high altitude places -__-
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Going back to JSR, I could see how it can be disliked. Great music, great artstyle and visuals BUT it is slow. I booted up the game last September and I was amazed at how slow it feels, I could have sworn if was faster back in 2000. Considering they're on rocket skates, you'd think they'd go a bit faster. Garam and Pots are, I think, the fastest characters so I generally play as them. Combo? NO WAY!
However, I do love the gameplay and enjoyed the level design. It's funny, because JSRF addressed the speed issue by making the characters truly fast but junked up the gameplay. Sort of a trade off I guess. Fast skating, but no graffifi joystick moves or boss battles occurring during gameplay.
See, I thought the opposite. I thought JSRF slowed things down considerably. In JGR you could pump the trigger anytime you wanted to do a dash. In JSRF you lost this ability, instead you had a speed dash that you could trigger by using 10 Spray cans...which of course you use much less frequently due to its cost. So I dunno.
I kinda know where you're getting at. The "plot" is all over the place, the whole smutty b-movie porn feel of Bayonetta can rub people the wrong way, the god-awful dialogue just waiting to turn into an Internet meme.
Yeah I pretty much agree there. For me though what was supposed to be a saving grace, the combat system, just didn't do anything for me. I found it to be a little too complex to get a handle on; too many buttons. But I realize this isn't an opinion most share.
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Going back to JSR, I could see how it can be disliked. Great music, great artstyle and visuals BUT it is slow. I booted up the game last September and I was amazed at how slow it feels, I could have sworn if was faster back in 2000. Considering they're on rocket skates, you'd think they'd go a bit faster. Garam and Pots are, I think, the fastest characters so I generally play as them. Combo? NO WAY!
However, I do love the gameplay and enjoyed the level design. It's funny, because JSRF addressed the speed issue by making the characters truly fast but junked up the gameplay. Sort of a trade off I guess. Fast skating, but no graffifi joystick moves or boss battles occurring during gameplay.
Slow? I just played it a while back it feels like a normal pace to me. I also never had much trouble getting off rails really, though sometimes I would unintentionally land on them.
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However, I do love the gameplay and enjoyed the level design. It's funny, because JSRF addressed the speed issue by making the characters truly fast but junked up the gameplay. Sort of a trade off I guess. Fast skating, but no graffifi joystick moves or boss battles occurring during gameplay.
In JSRF you could pull off tricks in the air, on rails and stuff that would speed you up. Holding the trigger to speed up in the first game was kind of stupid because everyone would just hold it down all of the time anyways, and it was barely that much faster to begin with.
On the first game, I know you are on rollerblades, but sometimes it is just ridiculously hard to stop moving and sometimes you need a LOT of space to build up speed just to make a basic jump that you miss anyways and fall while doing a shitty "My face hit the wall so I will wave my arms while standing" falling animation.
I have a ton of other problems, but I know most people will skip over it. 8-) I will say I love the tagging in the first game. It is my favorite feature.
Also, Cube is hot and has the same crazy laugh the Cube from this forum probably has.
Now we must vote on which is the sexier Cube.
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With regards to JSRF vs JSR, I couldn't really say either one is more dumbed down or simplified. While they removed the analogue movements in JSRF, it was because you needed to get to areas it was impossible to stand at. You would need to pull of specific jumps and grinds to get to an area to tag it, and you needed to do it on the fly.
I used to really dislike JSRF, but after playing it through again a few years back, I now like them both equally.
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With regards to JSRF vs JSR, I couldn't really say either one is more dumbed down or simplified. While they removed the analogue movements in JSRF, it was because you needed to get to areas it was impossible to stand at. You would need to pull of specific jumps and grinds to get to an area to tag it, and you needed to do it on the fly.
I used to really dislike JSRF, but after playing it through again a few years back, I now like them both equally.
Pretty much how I feel, even though I have a slight preference for JGR I feel both are of relatively similar quality and think both are absolutely fantastic games.
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I would say ToeJam and Earl. I could never really stand the aesthetic of it. There's just something about it I don't like.
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The Main reason I liked JSR more than JSR:F was because its slow, to be more precise, I liked tagging with the analog stick and found it fun/challenging.
JSRF took all that out and it became more simplified, I still love the game, but I like JSR more.
fully agree with you here
I thought it had better levels as well (Also, CAPTAIN ONISHIMA!)
i have to disagree here.
the levels in JSRF is far bigger and better designed.
one thing to say
you can maintain a successful jump in JSRF much much better and easier than in JSR. this is another big + for Future.
i can't say for sure which game i like more! both games means a lot to me.
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I would say ToeJam and Earl. I could never really stand the aesthetic of it. There's just something about it I don't like.
I get that. The style is very much rooted in the early 90s, and the roguelike gameplay isn't for everyone.
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I'm the only one Sega fan completely SANE on this forum.
Just saying...
We all have some insanity deep inside of us...
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I loved the tricksystem in JSRF. I remember you could get new tags by accomplishing challenges in each environments mostly revolving around the trick system.
As Yu Suzuki, I liked the gravity system more in JSR, but overall JSRF was much better for me.