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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: CosmicCastaway on May 02, 2011, 08:02:28 am
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SEGA and Marvel team up again to bring you Thor: God of Thunder on May 3. In this thread you can post your thoughts on the various versions of the game, whether it be the main HD releases or the Wii and DS titles.
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Thor should have been played by Will Smith.
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Thor should have been played by Will Smith.
Just so Odin could be played by Morgan Freeman, right?
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The best thing about this game releasing is that I'll never have to post articles about it again.
No wait even better it means only one more game until Segas Marvel deal is over, awesome.
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Captain America deserves to annihalate this game.
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Captain America deserves to annihalate this game.
Curiously enough, Captain America's game is $50 while the Thor title is selling at $60. I don't have enough money to buy both of them new and I ended up preordering Captain America:Super Soldier for the PS3. I'm personally more excited for that, but I wish I could check out the Thor game as well.
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From what I've read, Thor for Wii is better than Thor HD.
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That being said we will have reviews for the Wii, PS3 and DS version. Should be... an interesting development.
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THOR WEEK CONFIRMED!
Or not...
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ign gives Thor DS an 8/10: http://ds.ign.com/articles/116/1165818p1.html (http://ds.ign.com/articles/116/1165818p1.html)
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George was apparently right lol. Yeah you called it allright
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Thor Wii: 6/10
http://wii.ign.com/articles/116/1165776p1.html (http://wii.ign.com/articles/116/1165776p1.html)
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ign gives Thor DS an 8/10: http://ds.ign.com/articles/116/1165818p1.html (http://ds.ign.com/articles/116/1165818p1.html)
Should have just made the console versions the same... but 3D graphics using all those nice shaders... but 2D gameplay. :)
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From what I've read of the IGN Thor reviews, the bosses have been one of the better recieved parts of each game.
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I purchased the DS version yesterday and played it through my breaks at work.
It's awesome. WayForward does a terrific job with the animation and Thor has enough variety of fighting moves to keep the constant fighting from getting too monotonous.
The game's details shine even on the 3DS. I was worried that it would fuzz up the game to much, but instead it just smoothes it out and keeps it from looking pixelated. The close attention to detail is amazing. Sometimes when I'm fighting, there will be rain pouring down on the screen. Thor's hammer will knock the rain away from him as he's fighting! I can't believe they'd put that kind of detail in.
Anyway, it's a great superhero game and well recommended. If you have some questions, let me know.
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I'm glad you liked the DS version Shigs. =) Hopefully the rest of the Thor games turn out good.
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I bought the DS Version off of ebay after hearing how good it is. I also am getting a lend of Thor on 360. Will be interesting to see how they compare.
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Wow, I don't believe it. A version of this game that doesnt suck?
As I said before, Sega should snap up Way Forward and put them to work on bringing back classic IPs in 2D. Streets of Rage, Comix Zone, VectorMan, Shinobi etc.
Sega have a lot of games that could still work really well in 2D and Way Forward seem to be... The way forward.
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WayForward could do wonders with Streets of Rage.
Leme know if anyone wants to review this or not, cuz I could do it.
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I'm on the fourth world now and yea....it IS getting real monotonous now. I guess it can't be helped. Fight some ogres, walk a few feet, fight some more, repeat. It gets boring after awhile.
Luckily, the bosses are worth the wait. They tend to take up both screens!! I fact, when they appear, Thor actually gets even smaller than he already is. It's almost overkill.
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I wonder if the Nintendo DS game is going to be better than the movie? Everything I have seen off of the actual film looked pretty awful.
WayForward would do best with Wonder Boy/Monster World. The Shantae games are spiritual sequels in a lot of ways.
They have gone on record to say they do not like SEGA stuff though. Some of their comments, especially the Contra one pissed me off so much.
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Everyone I know who has seen the movie said it was awesome actually.
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Yeah, i have heard nothing by positive comments outside my friends that complained about the whole notion of Thor as a super hero.
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I'm sure it's awesome in that it is true to the source material...
That said I think the source material is an awful idea to begin with.
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It's gotten an 80% critical rating over at RottenTomatoes too though, so sounds like it's going to be a good film for most.
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I'm sure it's awesome in that it is true to the source material...
That said I think the source material is an awful idea to begin with.
It's probably awesome just because it's a good movie. What do you have against the basic idea of Thor anyway?
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I'm sure it's awesome in that it is true to the source material...
That said I think the source material is an awful idea to begin with.
What Norse Mythology or Marvel Comics? Either way, I kindly disagree.
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Rented the Wii version through GameFly.
Not half bad actually. Lots of different fighting moves and magic attacks and a good upgrade system. Flying levels to keep it from being too monotonous. Kotaku nailed it in that even the graphics look more appealing the the 360/PS3 versions due to the comic book motif.
It's not great, but loads better than Iron Man 2.
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saw the movie. Don't see it. It takes stupidity to a whole new level. I was thorly disappointed.
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The movie's pretty good, actually.
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I sincerely hope you're joking. It was laughably bad.
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I saw the movie yesterday, it was pretty good.
Yeah, Thor really isn't a superhero. Even though people consider him one.
The Wii version was made by Redfly(Which made the awesome S:TFU 2 for Wii!) and DS was made by WayForward. I wonder if the games might be good this time around.
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I saw the movie yesterday, it was pretty good.
Yeah, Thor really isn't a superhero. Even though people consider him one.
Why exactly is that?
The Wii version was made by Redfly(Which made the awesome S:TFU 2 for Wii!) and DS was made by WayForward. I wonder if the games might be good this time around.
So far on Game Rankings:
PS3: 53.20%
360: 47.17%
Wii: 62.50%
DS: 64.50%
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Thor is totally a superhero. He has super powers and he does heroic stuff.
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Thor: The movie was awesome! Very true to the comics. Great acting, good action (at the beginning and end. Middle was a little flat), and a great portrayal of the character. Can't wait for Captain America then, the Avengers!
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Played the first chapter of Thor on DS yesterday, I really liked it!
The action is great, with simple moves but good variety (regular attacks, charged attacks, hammer throwing etc), and you can power up your abilities with Runes.
The way you can smash pillars and use them as weapons and the chase scene was very good too.
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Hahahaha...wow, gamespot gave the PS3/360 versions a 2/10.
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/thor/review.html (http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/thor/review.html)
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yessir, a sega game through and through.
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yessir, a Marvel licensed Sega game through and through.
Fixed. :afroman:
It's funny. This game went from fun, to monotonous and boring to fun again. During the 3rd or 4th world, the game starts to bog down with the same old, same old. But then, around the time you fight Hela, you notice the challenge has boosted up and it gets Hela good. :roll: I'm on the 5th world and it's getting really tough so I have to strategize my moves and use my god powers sparingly. It's tough but it brings back the fun that left around the middle.
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I think the HD versions of the game look fun. I don't know if I want to pay $50 for it but I might get it once the price comes down.
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yessir, a Marvel licensed Sega game through and through.
Fixed. :afroman:
Pretty sure Sega's still responsible for quality control though. If you're going to attribute another developer's success to Sega (creative assembly, platinum games) then you'd better be prepared to be consistent with failures as well.
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yessir, a Marvel licensed Sega game through and through.
Fixed. :afroman:
Pretty sure Sega's still responsible for quality control though. If you're going to attribute another developer's success to Sega (creative assembly, platinum games) then you'd better be prepared to be consistent with failures as well.
How is Thor comparable to a Creative Assembly game? The former is a Marvel Licensed game developed by Liquid Entertainment, Published by SEGA.. The later is a Sega game developed by a SEGA team.
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Creative Assembly is as much Sega as Eidos is Square-Enix. I'm merely pointing out a double standard. If Sega is responsible for Total War being awesome, then they are responsible for Thor sucking.
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At this point, aren't SEGA just fulfilling the terms of a Marvel contract? I assume they have X amount of games or years before the deal expires. I'd prefer they hire external devs than waste the time of internal devs. Though, it seems the DS and Wii versions are pretty good.
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Creative Assembly is as much Sega as Eidos is Square-Enix. I'm merely pointing out a double standard. If Sega is responsible for Total War being awesome, then they are responsible for Thor sucking.
When has anyone argued that Eidos is not part of Square Enix on the forums? Refresh my memory here.
SEGA owns Creative Assembly and all the licenses to the series, thus it is a SEGA team and series. SEGA do not own the developer nor the series to the Thor title, so it is not a SEGA property, there is a difference.
But why compare a tie in? SEGA does not have the luxury of setting a development schedule, no matter what they have to release a game at a certain date, to judge their quality control on that is silly, to say the least.
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But why compare a tie in? SEGA does not have the luxury of setting a development schedule, no matter what they have to release a game at a certain date, to judge their quality control on that is silly, to say the least.
They entered the agreement with marvel, they are responsible. Don't make it sound like something that couldn't be helped. Sega doesn't have to be in these arrangements. They're looking to make a quick buck.
SEGA do not own the developer nor the series to the Thor title, so it is not a SEGA property, there is a difference.
Sega doesn't own platinum either. Yet those are 100% sega games for some reason.
As far as Eidos is concerned, no one in their right of mind would claim Tomb Raider is a Square game through and through. It's an eidos game and it will be until Square decides to farm the license out to a different developer. It's the same with CA and TW.
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PlatinumGames releases are all SEGA IPs, Thor and most Marvel releases through SEGA as a promotional thing for the movie and are based on the film's licensing budget and nothing else. It is not comparable.
Many people who are literally employed by SEGA worked on every PlatniumGames releases. Just because the core studio originally worked with another publisher ten years ago it all of a sudden does not count as a SEGA game? So what does that make the hundreds of thousands of SEGA staff that initially worked for other publishers in the past? The way you make it sound is if someone who never worked prior who is on on their first day of their first job at SEGA is somehow "More SEGA" than someone who has worked with them for twenty years, but originally worked with Namco or someshit? Makes no damn sense, and I am tired of people with a superiority complex trying to push it.
Outside of Secret Level stuff, which was a SEGA studio, SEGA barely have any say as to what happens with with the quality of Thor. It is Marvel's IP, and as they are in charge of what happens at the end of the day. Of course SEGA could have dropped it, but why waste a potential multimillion dollar deal? In the name of honor? Pfft, every major publisher has at least a dozen bad movie games under their belt, the only time it is ever a problem is when people who do not even buy the games find reasons to complain just to complain.
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They entered the agreement with marvel, they are responsible. Don't make it sound like something that couldn't be helped. Sega doesn't have to be in these arrangements. They're looking to make a quick buck.
You happened to compare Total War, a series that has no restriction on it's development time or budget, with that of a license game that has a restriction with both time and budget. It is an unfair comparision.
Sega doesn't own platinum either. Yet those are 100% sega games for some reason.
SEGA own the rights to the games. What else would they be? Thor is in no way owned by SEGA. Bayonetta and Vanquish however is.
As far as Eidos is concerned, no one in their right of mind would claim Tomb Raider is a Square game through and through. It's an eidos game and it will be until Square decides to farm the license out to a different developer. It's the same with CA and TW.
Why not? Square Enix bought the rights to Tomb Raider and everything attached to it. It's their property now wither people like it or not, same applies for Total War with SEGA, same for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles with Nickledoen and same for Marvel with Disney. It might not have this DNA people keep going on about, it did not start life at the current owners, but it is owned by the current owners and is a SEGA, Square Enix etc title.
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Playing the PS3 version. The team really tried to cram a ton of shit in there and basically focus on just the combat. Too bad that the combat isn't really that great.
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They entered the agreement with marvel, they are responsible. Don't make it sound like something that couldn't be helped. Sega doesn't have to be in these arrangements. They're looking to make a quick buck.
You happened to compare Total War, a series that has no restriction on it's development time or budget, with that of a license game that has a restriction with both time and budget. It is an unfair comparision.
Of course TW had both of these things. They're not running a charity.
Sega doesn't get a pass for Thor. Their name is still on it. They were completely aware what kind of product they were endorsing when they entered the deal.
I'm going to stop pushing the whole TW not being a "sega" game. Obviously we're not going to see eye to eye on this.
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At this point, aren't SEGA just fulfilling the terms of a Marvel contract? I assume they have X amount of games or years before the deal expires.
Exactly what I've been saying about Mario and Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games.
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At this point, aren't SEGA just fulfilling the terms of a Marvel contract? I assume they have X amount of games or years before the deal expires.
Exactly what I've been saying about Mario and Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games.
Exact Lee. Either they make $$$ with a Sonrio Olympic title, or they don't. I'd prefer they make mega bucks by taking advantage of Mario fans (and to a lesser extent, Sonic fans).
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Of course TW had both of these things. They're not running a charity.
Of course not, SEGA would always have a development schedule, however unlike a tie in game, they can set whatever development time they want. If a game needed to be delayed, just like Binary Domain was into next year, just like Alpha Protocol have over a year of delay.
Sega doesn't get a pass for Thor. Their name is still on it. They were completely aware what kind of product they were endorsing when they entered the deal.
I am not giving them a pass for anything and I do not believe overly relying on licenses is good for a game company. I just do not understand why you are comparing a tie in with a game that SEGA has complete control when it releases.
In anycase, the man behind the decision to get the Marvel licenses got sacked from SEGA by the top brass, so that is the end of that most likely.
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At this point, aren't SEGA just fulfilling the terms of a Marvel contract? I assume they have X amount of games or years before the deal expires.
Exactly what I've been saying about Mario and Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games.
Exact Lee. Either they make $$$ with a Sonrio Olympic title, or they don't. I'd prefer they make mega bucks by taking advantage of Mario fans (and to a lesser extent, Sonic fans).
Err, I'm mostly saying that because the Mario + Sonic series are actually licensed unlike Mario sports games, SEGA has to make a new Olympic game for each event until they no longer have the license. Not to mention, this also means that there's a more realistic London 2012 game in development for 360/PS3 (probably from Eurocom.)
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Lets be honest, Mario & Sonic games sell on name, not on Olympic license. SEGA should smart up, fuck the license and just make a platformer cross over like fans want.
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Welcome to the wonderful world of movie licensed games! Where the games are made for a quick cash-in, done on a very tight schedule with an even tighter budget. This is not just true for Sega, but pretty much all game companies.
And you wonder why they end up so crappy.
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Lets be honest, Mario & Sonic games sell on name, not on Olympic license. SEGA should smart up, fuck the license and just make a platformer cross over like fans want.
I would guess Sega has the right to make Olympic games but not anything they want with Mario.
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I wish people in the gaming community would stop acting like there have been no good movie-video-game tie-ins. I'll show a couple of ones I really enjoyed to illustrate my point.
(http://http://www.x-tropia.com/images/article_images/pop_culture/aladdin/disney_aladdin_sega_genesis_box.jpg)
(http://http://www.gifgratis.net/immagini/PS2/S/Spiderman_2_Ps2.jpg)
(http://http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2006/01/King_kong_box_xbox360.jpg)
(http://http://gamersofperu.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/x-men-origins-lobezno.jpg)
I just wish people would not be so quick to dismiss a movie video game because I've found they can be quite fun if you give them a chance.
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Ghostbusters for Genesis kicked ass!
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Yeah. they can and should be good. The fact that its licensed is never an excuse. Just look at Astro Boy: Omega Factor.
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This is all based on what developers are picked for the project. As far as Wolverine Origins goes, that was well in development as a very different Wolverine game when the company got the license. Astro Boy Omega Factor was done by freakin' Treasure! Of course that was gonna be awesome.
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Well sure. They probably should have paired up with a better developer then.
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As far as Wolverine Origins goes, that was well in development as a very different Wolverine game when the company got the license.
Isn't there a similar story with Next Level developing Captain America: Super Soldier before they even got the movie license?
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Well sure. They probably should have paired up with a better developer then.
Not as simple as that. They only get so much money to spend on any licensed game. This is why you have Captain America on Wii being done by High Voltage's B team. (I.E. Don't expect it to be good.)
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SEGA should really learn from games like Batman...
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SEGA should really learn from games like Batman...
I think they are. Captain America on the HD consoles looks extremely similar to it. I think it looks like really good fun.
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Learn that delaying a game for quality is more important than cashing in...
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Learn that delaying a game for quality is more important than cashing in...
The Captain America game supposedly has been in production for about two years so I'm sure it'll be great. I've already preordered it and I'm positive I will have a blast playing it! =)
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Thor was too and quality isn't something I would call it.
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When can we expect reviews for all 3 versions?
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Soon. Very soon. Hopefully by the end of the week for one at least.