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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Deefy on July 01, 2011, 10:00:26 pm
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Yes there is a Mexican division of SEGA America(I never knew), with a twitter account : http://http://www.twitter.com/SEGA_Mexico, and a rep. of this country during a chat revealed a new entry in the Sonic storybook franchise, that should end the trilogy, and a new SEGA All-Star game.
via destructoid: http://http://www.destructoid.com/sega-making-another-sonic-storybook-game-204979.phtml, via Sonic Paradise: http://http://www.sonicparadise.net/2011/06/mexico-sega-of-mexico-abre-su-cuenta.html.
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Please don't be Sega All Star Fighting, Please don't be Sega All Star Fighting...
EDIT: Actually, that's really harsh. I wouldn't mind a fighting game if it was done well, but I'm guessing if they did it would be Super Smash Bros: Featuring SOnic and Pals.
Which is the not something I would give two fucks about.
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Mmmh..., I'M doing research in the web and the news has became a simple rumors, because the Rep. says he was misinterpred. Mmmmmmhhhh......
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I doubt Sega would be stupid enough to release another shitty Story book game after that last PSO.
Actually I don't doubt they would be stupid enough, I just hope they aren't.
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I don't know. Sonicparadise has mostly been credible with it's leaking news etc. I don't like the sound of a new storybook game either. I really hope it's not true because I thought SEGA delisted the whole reputation destroying games and was aiming for quality. But then again, maybe the new storybook game may actually be good?
Ah still hope it's untrue since i've had it with rediculous stories in sonic games >.<
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I'm up for another Storybook Sonic game. I really enjoyed Sonic and the Black Knight and what I played of Sonic and the Secret Rings was really fun.
Definitely looking forward to another SEGA Superstars/All-Stars title. Hopefully we'll have even more great SEGA characters this time around. :)
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I thought a lot was right conceptually with Secret Rings and Black Knight, they were just designed to be overly gimmicky and suffered greatly (stuff like having to unlock good controls should not exist). If a normal game was made in a similar style, I could honestly see myself getting pretty excited for them.
Black Knight gets way too much hate though. The game is not very good at all of course, but it was announced at the worst time with EVERYONE ready to finally accept Sonic Unleashed, even the werehog. Because it was announced too early and everyone freaked out, I feel Unleashed got a much worse reception than it would have without Black Knight.
There are literally billions of books that would probably work well with Sonic characters in some form, but personally I would really like to see Sonic and the Journey to the West. Sonic Bible Adventures would also be cool, if not just to see Sharky and Shadi freak out bad.
As for a new Superstars game... Doubt I could get excited for a new sport, and I do not want anyone outside of AM2 or MAYBE AM4 making a fighting game or something similar. I loved SUMO's racing and tennis, but they focus on stuff like Sonic Team properties far too much. Regardless of how cool they came out, three Samba De Amigo levels is just stupid. Do not get me started on Billy Hatcher.
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I loved SUMO's racing and tennis
I am the only thinking that SEGA Superstar Tennis had really bad controls as far as Tennis games go?
Personally I think a fighting game like a Smash Bros. Clone would be awsome. The New Wii U Smash Bros. is still far away, and if they get a decent Online that everyone craved for with Brawl,and balance the mechanics to everyone favour like with Racing,it could become incredibly successfull.
As for a new Storybooks game, I think this one will make somehow use of the Wii U controller maybe,it might be a Launch Title, or come out by end of 2012 for the U.
Like all the inbetween games between the major releases(Secret Rings,Black Knight,Colors to an extent)i'd assume it will have little content or/and just not be very good,since it will be a Sonic game that they can fill the need of having one every year.
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Tennis was fun for what it was, but did have control issues. Probably because the characters were so all over the place. Can't expect them to perfect a tennis game with floating jesters, fat scientists and dwarfs.
Racing, on the other hand, was a very solid game in my opinion. One of Sumo's best!
However I agree with mademan in that Sumo doesn't have a fighter in them. They have great producers and management, but I don't think they have the team to produce a great fighter. Unless, of course, Sumo builds a team from the ground up using folks with fighting game experience or they collaborate with AM2. Perhaps have some of the brains behind Virtua Fighter be on hand.
I'd actually want to see an All-Stars Racing 2. I think if the kinks are ironed out, there is a greater track variety (IP wise) and more great characters (less Silver, more Shinobi) it could be an awesome game! Plus, they don't have to worry about a Wii version with the Wii U on the way. They can just develop one HD version. 3DS don't need no version.
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I'd actually want to see an All-Stars Racing 2.
Altough in the Leak they did say more along the lines of..."You'll see what the next game is gonna be about..." So at least now from the look of things, another racer is less likely.
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Yeah, I caught that, just wish they wouldn't change things up yet again when they could improve on what they've already got.
better be a damn good concept!
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http://spong.com/article/24810/15th-Anniversary-of-NiGHTS-into-Dreams-Brings-Hints-of-New-Game (http://spong.com/article/24810/15th-Anniversary-of-NiGHTS-into-Dreams-Brings-Hints-of-New-Game)
So appearently Iizuka is hinting elements that didn't make it into Nights,are still being saved for another Project.
Woudn't necessarily mean another Nights game tough, as Sonic Team does force concepts that would be more fitting for new/other IP's into Sonic games all the time now.
But if there were another retail Nights game,a good way to it, is to make a Sonic and Nights crossover in the 3rd Storybook game,like maybe Sonic in Wonderland lol. Making it a Sonic game would be the only way to make it sell it well anyway.
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I actually think the storybook titles would be the perfect place for Sonic Team crossovers. Why not toss in NiGHTS, PSO, Chu Chu, Burning Rangers and (yes) even Billy for NPC roles?
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I think a Nights crossover would work the best from all their IP's, with the area that the Kids run in,being used as a proper Sonic level and interchange them with the flying in some ways. Could work with the U controller.
The Story: Eggman finnaly traps Sonic into a cage that he, no matter what, can't escape. He falls asleep after a while and meets NiGHTS in his dreams in Wonderland(changed from Dreamland,so it can be a Storybook game)
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I think every Sonic Team IP should be banned in replace of actual SEGA IPs.
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A Sonic Team IP crossover is literally the worst idea I ever heard for anything ever. -1 $karma point, you horrible, horrible man, you.
We are trying to fix SEGA's image, not make their cancerous tumor of a development studio more relevant. People already see NiGHTS as one of SEGA's mascots, the last thing we need is normal people thinking SEGA's biggest games of all time all have one release each.
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lol, chill out Sanus.
I was just saying that if they are open to tossing in loads of Sonic characters in the storybook games, why not do what the Riders series did and add in a few non-Sonic characters from Sonic Team IPs. Nothing crazy. Just cameos and maybe unlockable characters. I'd take Amigo or NiGHTS over Shadow or Silver.
I swear, you could match Gordon Ramsay in overly exaggerating. "This is the worst chicken I've ever eaten in my entire life evah! *vomits*"
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It woudn't really suprise if there were some crazy crossover tough. But would it be really so bad....a well done one would be better for reputation of SEGA than another Storybook game in the vein of the games before.
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lol, chill out Sanus.
I was just saying that if they are open to tossing in loads of Sonic characters in the storybook games, why not do what the Riders series did and add in a few non-Sonic characters from Sonic Team IPs. Nothing crazy. Just cameos and maybe unlockable characters. I'd take Amigo or NiGHTS over Shadow or Silver.
I swear, you could match Gordon Ramsay in overly exaggerating. "This is the worst chicken I've ever eaten in my entire life evah! *vomits*"
I really would just prefer it was a mix of all kinds of SEGA characters. Honestly, Sonic Team has some of the weakest because they are all fairly similar. Characters like Knuckles, Reala now are way way lamer than they were years ago, too.
And besides, Sonic Team would choose stuff like Adam Weber, Pudding and Silver.
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I think mixing all kinds of General SEGA IP's would be worse. Even if Sonic Team's Franchises are quite similar and a bit lame, at least they fit next to each other.
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If Burning Rangers, Phantasy Star or Space Channel 5 fits with one another, then anything from Shinobi, The House of the Dead, Streets of Rage, Golden Axe, Panzer Dragoon, Super Monkey Ball, Ecco the Dolphin, Virtua Fighter, Yakuza or even Virtual-On and tons more can work.
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For a SEGA collabration sure,but not in a straight up Sonic game IMO
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I like the idea of a Sonic game where he goes to other SEGA worlds, but at the end of the day I would just prefer normal Sonic stuff. Even in games like Sonic Adventure I liked how they mentioned NiGHTS stuff, but they could have had tons of other stuff from stuff they did not specifically make.
I am just not against a spinoff trying new stuff at least. Regardless of how it turned out, I really like almost all of the ideas behind Black Knight. Sonic Team is known for making bad stories, so I think if they have help from an established good one it is pretty cool. Black Knight IMHO has one of the best stories in a Sonic game in a long time, the ending actually shocked me. SHOCKED!
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Regardless of how it turned out, I really like almost all of the ideas behind Black Knight. Sonic Team is known for making bad stories, so I think if they have help from an established good one it is pretty cool. Black Knight IMHO has one of the best stories in a Sonic game in a long time
Mommy and daddy always told me to respect the opinions of others but goddamn.
Adam Weber
I stared at this for a long time before realizing you meant Ethan Webber. Regardless, yeah, he's a pretty unremarkable/terrible character.
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Sonic and the Black Knight seems like a terrible concept; both the gameplay and the story. In fact, any 'story book' game is awful just based on that idea alone. The games should be accessible to children, not focused exclusively on them (unless it is a Leapfrog game or some other garbage like that).
Regardless of this, I do not think the SEGA of Mexico fellow even knew what he was talking about. I mean really, Sonic Adventure 3 on DS? How did that answer even relate to the question someone asked him? (They inquired about a Tails game.) Furthermore, why would anything be on DS now?
It just seems like he was blabbering nonsense.
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Altough I think Secret Rings was never ment exclusively to be for kiddies persey
Black Knight was just filler that they never put any effort in, so they just made the excuse that it's for Kids.
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Black Knight IMHO has one of the best stories in a Sonic game in a long time, the ending actually shocked me. SHOCKED!
I agree. I also really enjoyed the story of Sonic and the Black Knight. :)
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I am not sure I understand what people are getting at. I am not saying Black Knight is a good game, just that it has elements that are good. Stuff like optional different playable characters, signposts at the end of levels, music by Tommy Tallarico and Richard Jaques, references to earlier games (stuff like Unleashed, Colors and many other newer games rarely if ever do this stuff) and much less focus on dashpads are all very good ones.
The story is kiddy of course, but it is just such a massive, massive step up from stuff like Chip turning into Voltron, Shadow LITERALLY killing Robotnik, Sonic LITERALLY killing God or another monster overthrowing Robotnik. The twist at the end of Black Knight is something that has never happened in the series before. I cannot see how it did not surprise some of you.
seems like a terrible concept
huh
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I am not sure I understand what people are getting at. I am not saying Black Knight is a good game, just that it has elements that are good. Stuff like optional different playable characters, signposts at the end of levels, music by Tommy Tallarico and Richard Jaques, references to earlier games (stuff like Unleashed, Colors and many other newer games rarely if ever do this stuff) and much less focus on dashpads are all very good ones.
I doubt that the Signpost were intentional.
I see the fanservice as an attempt to make the game seem less repulsive...
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Please don't be Sega All Star Fighting, Please don't be Sega All Star Fighting...
EDIT: Actually, that's really harsh. I wouldn't mind a fighting game if it was done well, but I'm guessing if they did it would be Super Smash Bros: Featuring SOnic and Pals.
Which is the not something I would give two fucks about.
The last i heard it was to tie in with the Olympics. Even told Shark about it but that was years ago, i dunno if that's the case now.