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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: TimmiT on July 28, 2011, 04:57:33 am
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http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=30048 (http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=30048)
On August 12th the price of the 3DS will be dropped to 169 USD. Those who bought the 3DS before the price drop gets 10 free NES and 10 free GBA games. Here's a partial list of the games those will get:
NES:
- Super Mario Bros
- Donkey Kong Jr.
- Balloon Fight
- Ice Climber
- Legend of Zelda
- + five more games
GBA:
- Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3
- Mario Kart: Super Circuit
- Metroid Fusion
- Warioware Inc: Mega Microgame$
- Mario vs. Donkey Kong
- + five more games
I'll buy it for that price. The biggest reason I didn't buy the 3DS was the price and I really want to play Nintendo's upcoming games.
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Wow! What a price drop! Not a good sign for Nintendo, but a good sign for me! I might just pick one up. I really want to play Shinobi and Generations when they hit, plus I want to catch up on all the DS SEGA titles.
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Wow! What a price drop! Not a good sign for Nintendo, but a good sign for me! I might just pick one up. I really want to play Shinobi and Generations when they hit, plus I want to catch up on all the DS SEGA titles.
The 3DS hasn't been selling well when compared to their previous handhelds. Besides that, the PSVita, which is capable of better graphics than the 3DS, is going to cost 250 USD. If they want to compete with that, they have to drop the price.
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Wow, I figured they'd drop to $200 before the holidays, but that is a nice bonus. I hope I can get one before the year is out.
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Good to see there's something in it for early investors.
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Crap, I just noticed this about the GBA games in the list:
"These games will be available exclusively to Ambassadors, and Nintendo currently has no plans to make these 10 games available to the general public on the Nintendo 3DS in the future."
Really the only one I'd love to download is Metroid Fusion, but I guess I'll just have to Ebay it some day and play on my older systems. Then again, Nintendo loves to say "no plans in the future" and then change their mind a few months to a year later.
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I have a huge feeling that a way better looking 3DS is around the corner for a re-launch. I think it will try to match the software that is on the Playstation Vita by having a more social experince and a pretty decent music player. Why you ask? Well, I think Nintendo knows there is a market for it and if it can stay under the 200 dollar mark for the 're-launch' they will most likely outsell the PSV. Not to mention a bigger screen and larger battery.
They just need to take care of the software part and Capcom canceling Mega Man Legends 3 project isn't good.
Reggie when he heard the news:
(http://i53.tinypic.com/311s3ua.jpg)
I won't purchase a 3DS due to how inferior the user experience is compared to something like the DSi XL. I have one and it has longer battery, better on system software and screen. Try harder Nintendo. Also no Mega Man Legends 3, fuckkkkkkkk.
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Crap, I just noticed this about the GBA games in the list:
"These games will be available exclusively to Ambassadors, and Nintendo currently has no plans to make these 10 games available to the general public on the Nintendo 3DS in the future."
Really the only one I'd love to download is Metroid Fusion, but I guess I'll just have to Ebay it some day and play on my older systems. Then again, Nintendo loves to say "no plans in the future" and then change their mind a few months to a year later.
"No plans" is also known as PR speak for "not ready to announce it yet".
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Ambassadors are what now?
I thought this was very good, but if they only get NES ROMs now, that is not worth it. I would be very irritated to know I had wasted money by buying it just a few months early.
As for the price drop, it is still too much for what it is. 3D is not a selling point for me, and I think most people agree.
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I suppose a 3D-less 3DS is out of the question considering that is the main gimmick and all, but I am definitely waiting for the improved hardware before I even considering biting. The 3DS we have now could be so much better, even the DS backwards compatibility is lacking badly. How does something like that happen?
Even with such a massive price drop, I still feel this is nowhere as cheap as it should be. Smartphones are obviously a billion times more useful and are slowly creeping up around the same price. Nintendo just really dropped the ball with the 3D gimmick, but I guess they needed to learn a lesson.
I honestly just wish SEGA would drop support for the platform, but I know it is out of the question. Hopefully Shinobi comes to something else, Generations3DS will be one of the worst Sonic games ever, so I hope it rots forever. I also rather just have a different Monkey Ball game anyways.
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Ambassadors are what now?
People who used the EShop before AUG 11.
I thought this was very good, but if they only get NES ROMs now, that is not worth it. I would be very irritated to know I had wasted money by buying it just a few months early.
Not just NES Roms, GBA Roms too. And the GBA Roms may never be released to the public, only to you!
As for the price drop, it is still too much for what it is.
I disagree, I thought they price dropped too much! Well, the DSi is 150 dollars and the 3DS is a heck of an upgrade for only 20 bucks more!
I honestly just wish SEGA would drop support for the platform, but I know it is out of the question. Hopefully Shinobi comes to something else, Generations3DS will be one of the worst Sonic games ever, so I hope it rots forever. I also rather just have a different Monkey Ball game anyways.
Drop support? Erm... No. They will make a lot of money from the handheld which will help fund future bigger games. Crush is even getting a revival after the whole PSP bomb shenanigans.
I seriously don't get why you're bawling at SG 3DS. Most of the builds played are old and they said they would work on the issues. The "RUSH" segments are just as fun as before so fans are sure to love them. Are you seriously thinking it could be any worse then Sonic 06... or even Sonic 4? It supposedly has Sonic 4 physics but with a couple improvements here and there. (See Running)
Sega dropped the ball with Monkey Ball a while ago. If it was on another platform, it probably would of sucked just as much. The original Monkey Ball games are long gone and now we'll be getting a sub-par experience with a bunch of sub-par minigames.
I found it a bit shocking on how Iwata did this. A lot of the salaries were cut and he priced dropped it WAAY more then I expected to. Now they're taking a "PS3" situation by underpricing it and LOSING MONEY with each handheld sold. Although, he did say next holiday season would bring back profits. It isn't like the PS3 where it continued to sell for a loss for a very long time.
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Sega dropped the ball with Monkey Ball a while ago. If it was on another platform, it probably would of sucked just as much. The original Monkey Ball games are long gone and now we'll be getting a sub-par experience with a bunch of sub-par minigames.
I found Super Monkey Ball 2 for the iOS to be fantastic, played a lot like the console versions. Shame SEGA does a better job on the iOS than they do on the 3DS. Maybe they should get the same dev team to create the 3DS version.
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Oh no! I think I was confused! My memory must of been fuzzy thinking that every Super Monkey Ball Game that came out after the second one was trashed by reviewers. The only was that was trashed was Adventures and the DS one to the extent.
And looking at the scores, it seems the official team makes better games. Ocean Interactive basically trashed MB with the first game but they really upped the ball game with the sequel. Still, it supposedly wasn't as good as the official series. Even the 3DS one beat it out. (IGN)
I wish they would do a new model along with a price drop. That would be pretty sweet.
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I found Super Monkey Ball 2 for the iOS to be fantastic, played a lot like the console versions. Shame SEGA does a better job on the iOS than they do on the 3DS. Maybe they should get the same dev team to create the 3DS version.
It's being dumbed down for the casual Nintendo Audience. I heard that Amusment Vision made the 3DS version lol. We all know they don't make dumbed down games by default.
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Nintendo is simply bizarre with how they title people... that is not what I would ever consider an 'ambassador'.
As for 3DS, it seems more like a Virtual Boy at the moment. I do not want 3D anything besides Space Harrier 3D, and I want to wear some glasses during. 3D just seems like a pointless gimmick, eye strain, and a huge waste of battery power for a handheld.
Considering how egotistical Nintendo is, I hope it fails hard.
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Nintendo is simply bizarre with how they title people... that is not what I would ever consider an 'ambassador'.
...Who cares?
As for 3DS, it seems more like a Virtual Boy at the moment. I do not want 3D anything besides Space Harrier 3D, and I want to wear some glasses during. 3D just seems like a pointless gimmick, eye strain, and a huge waste of battery power for a handheld.
Then turn it off? I played my friends 3DS and the 3D was REALLY cool. I didn't feel any eye strain during my gameplay whatsoever.
Considering how egotistical Nintendo is, I hope it fails hard.
Well, it won't! I guess that is too bad?
Price cut and Mario Kart 3DS is sure to pull a TON OF SALES this holiday season.
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Considering how egotistical Nintendo is, I hope it fails hard.
Did I miss something? I know Nintendo likes to keep it's head in the sand and that they only do what they think is best, but I wouldn't call them egotistical. Especially considering they are giving games to people who bought the 3DS early because of the price drop.
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And Nintendo does admit their mistakes. At least they aren't firing 100's of employees over this like the average American company does. Nintendo cut the salaries of several workers (Usually top workers like the president) instead.
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I still don't see how anyone can defend this piece of junk =P
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I still don't see how anyone can defend this piece of junk =P
Because they don't have as big of a problem with it as you do?
EDIT: To be honest, being a 3DS owner/supporter is a pretty bizarre position at this point. This is from someone who doesn't completely regret buying one. Who knows what'll happen at this point, I'd like to see how well it'll do over the holidays once it has more big titles for it.
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Because they don't have as big of a problem with it as you do?
Made me laugh out loud AND give you a kudos, Chaosmaster. I'd go one step further and mail you a Kudos milk chocolate granola bar, but I'm too lazy to walk to the post office and too cheap to pay for the shipping.
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I have a EVO 3D phone, it cost me 200 bucks with contract. Good phone. Do I game on the go with it? No.
Why? Smart phones have horrible battery life. I think that is why PSV and 3DS will probably still sell rather well, people want a dedicated gaming system.
Also the smartphone line up of games is meh. I mean, some good titles come, but its far between. Nothing that would match the PSP/DS line up.
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Made me laugh out loud AND give you a kudos, Chaosmaster. I'd go one step further and mail you a Kudos milk chocolate granola bar, but I'm too lazy to walk to the post office and too cheap to pay for the shipping.
If I went a little too far with that statement, I apologize.
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If I went a little too far with that statement, I apologize.
No no, he deserves it. His hatred of all things Nintendo often goes beyond the realm of believability. Shadi, I love ya, but c'mon. Theres opinion with examples to back it up, and then theres trolling for the lol of it.
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Sorry, guess I want too far with one simple comment =P
Nintendo makes my blood boil though, can't help myself. You can see my skin bubbling because my blood starts boiling so hot. That's how much i hate Nintendo.
but seriously.. um.. i just don't like them as of recently. All their hardware decisions suck ass. All their hardware decisions are to make them tons of money while shafting the consumer of basic features in similar priced hardware. It's been that way since the Wii, and it looks like it's going to continue with the Wii U. Unless the 3DS gave them a wake up call, but I doubt it.
It makes me happy to see they are losing money on the 3DS now though, serves them right. I guess they didn't really build the thing efficienlty though, that thing shouldn't be losing money at $170 price point.
Nintendo thought they were gonna be able to sell over-priced hardware marketed at non-gamers and $30 shovelware for the rest of their life and got hit by the harsh reality called iOS. That's the real reason Iwata hates smartphones, it stole his casual market.
Sony knows they can't compete with iOS and other smartphones, that's why they created PlayStation Suite. A suite that runs across a variety of smartphones and PS Vita where they will put all their casual games.
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Dude, stop talking about iOS games. I mean, I'm all for iOS development, but if you think that is the reason why 3DS is not doing better than DS, you are in for a rude awaking.
The reason that the 3DS isn't doing as great is because its hard to stand apart from the original DS. THey have the same game cases, some handheld design and they haven't really advertised it as a successor. They just advertise the 3D effect, don't have a great game line up and costs too much to purchase.
If I didn't follow gaming, I would think it was another DS re-release with lame 3D added.
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but it is the reason
why buy $30 shovelware when you can get it for $1 on smartphones
only people buying the 3DS are hardcore Nintendo fans and a few hardcore gamers. Everyone else either laughs at it or doesn't care about it.
Nintendo gave the 3DS it's name because they were hoping the same casual audience would buy it up because it had the word "DS" in the name. They are doing the same thing with the Wii U
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Dude, shovelware doesn't sell systems. 3DS is prove of that. The great software on DS sold the DS. All those RPGs, big ips like Mario and Zelda.
You can't purchase epic games like Dragon Quest 9 on iOS for a dollar. The market for 'shovelware' isn't as big as you think.
By your logic, the PS3 is losing consumers do to Apple too? They launched the PS3/iPhone at around the same time and the PS3 was a steep decline (more so than 3DS sales) compared to the PS2, which also had a ton of shovelware. So by your logic, all those people bought a $200/300 (at the time they were 500/600) dollar iphone (with a 2 year contract that they must pay 60+ a month) to play a 99 cent game?
Makes sense to you?
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Dude, shovelware doesn't sell systems. 3DS is prove of that. The great software on DS sold the DS. All those RPGs, big ips like Mario and Zelda.
You can't purchase epic games like Dragon Quest 9 on iOS for a dollar. The market for 'shovelware' isn't as big as you think.
By your logic, the PS3 is losing consumers do to Apple too? They launched the PS3/iPhone at around the same time and the PS3 was a steep decline (more so than 3DS sales) compared to the PS2, which also had a ton of shovelware. So by your logic, all those people bought a $200/300 (at the time they were 500/600) dollar iphone (with a 2 year contract that they must pay 60+ a month) to play a 99 cent game?
Makes sense to you?
Totally agree. As an iPod Touch owner, the first and foremost function of the thing is a music player and video player. I do have a lot of apps, around 4 pages worth, but none of them were the reason I bought the Touch. Most of them I picked up during deep discount and free sales or are SEGA titles. iOS does have some big epic games (the Zenonia series, GTA Chinatown Wars, LEGO Harry Potter, a lot of Square rpgs) but for the most part, the "best games" on iPhone are usually considered to be the 99 cent time wasters (albeit very fun time wasters): http://www.wfmj.com/story/15159111/best-iphone-games (http://www.wfmj.com/story/15159111/best-iphone-games)
I think the real selling point of iPhones and iPod Touches is that fact that it's a phone, camera, video camera, email and web browser all in one. The games are the cherry on top, but are not the sole reason to buy the device. I'd think it's the non-game apps (and the features listed above) that really sell the device.
I do agree with shadi, though, about Wii U looking to be another 3DS. Unless Nintendo does a damn fine job of marketing it as a NEW HD system and not another Wii. Seriously, I really dont' think a lot of people will be amazed by the control system. I've seen iPads used in conjunction with TVs and desktop computers and it was cool, but not mind blowing. I really could care less if, for example, playing a golf game I set the Wii U screen on the floor and see the golf ball. It's an unnecessary gimmick. I'd rather use a controller or a Kinect (or even a Move) rather than having to set a Wii U on the floor (don't step on it!) and using a wiimote.
I really think Nintendo should drop the "Wii" and just call it the "Nintendo U".
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I'd like the name Wii Stream or just Stream.
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But then it sounds like a stream of piss coming out of a wii, too many dick jokes could come of that.
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That's my point. Casual Gamers don't buy gaming systems. They buy fads.
They are the ones that bought up the DS, but now they have no reason to buy the DS when they got iPhone and can get shovelware quality games for 1 dollar instead of 30. DS had some pretty trashy games for 30 dollars that sold tons. Ive seen better quality games on iOS then a lot of DS games that sold tons back then.
My point is they won't be buying a 3DS like Nintendo thought they would. I still get the feeling Nintendo hasn't realized this, but we shall see =P
I don't count Mario kart rehashes and old ports as appealing to the hardcore. They did the same thing with the Wii.
Dude, shovelware doesn't sell systems. 3DS is prove of that. The great software on DS sold the DS. All those RPGs, big ips like Mario and Zelda.
You can't purchase epic games like Dragon Quest 9 on iOS for a dollar. The market for 'shovelware' isn't as big as you think.
By your logic, the PS3 is losing consumers do to Apple too? They launched the PS3/iPhone at around the same time and the PS3 was a steep decline (more so than 3DS sales) compared to the PS2, which also had a ton of shovelware. So by your logic, all those people bought a $200/300 (at the time they were 500/600) dollar iphone (with a 2 year contract that they must pay 60+ a month) to play a 99 cent game?
Makes sense to you?
Totally agree. As an iPod Touch owner, the first and foremost function of the thing is a music player and video player. I do have a lot of apps, around 4 pages worth, but none of them were the reason I bought the Touch. Most of them I picked up during deep discount and free sales or are SEGA titles. iOS does have some big epic games (the Zenonia series, GTA Chinatown Wars, LEGO Harry Potter, a lot of Square rpgs) but for the most part, the "best games" on iPhone are usually considered to be the 99 cent time wasters (albeit very fun time wasters): http://www.wfmj.com/story/15159111/best-iphone-games (http://www.wfmj.com/story/15159111/best-iphone-games)
I think the real selling point of iPhones and iPod Touches is that fact that it's a phone, camera, video camera, email and web browser all in one. The games are the cherry on top, but are not the sole reason to buy the device. I'd think it's the non-game apps (and the features listed above) that really sell the device.
I do agree with shadi, though, about Wii U looking to be another 3DS. Unless Nintendo does a damn fine job of marketing it as a NEW HD system and not another Wii. Seriously, I really dont' think a lot of people will be amazed by the control system. I've seen iPads used in conjunction with TVs and desktop computers and it was cool, but not mind blowing. I really could care less if, for example, playing a golf game I set the Wii U screen on the floor and see the golf ball. It's an unnecessary gimmick. I'd rather use a controller or a Kinect (or even a Move) rather than having to set a Wii U on the floor (don't step on it!) and using a wiimote.
I really think Nintendo should drop the "Wii" and just call it the "Nintendo U".
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But then it sounds like a stream of piss coming out of a wii, too many dick jokes could come of that.
I still think the Wii U is a bizarre name for the console.
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Some top-selling DS games:
# New Super Mario Bros. (26.88 million)[2]
# Nintendogs All versions (23.26 million)[3]
# Mario Kart DS (21.04 million)[2]
# Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day! (18.72 million)[3]
# Pokémon Diamond and Pearl (17.39 million)[4]
# Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day! (13.71 million)[5]
# Pokémon Black and White (12.87 million)[6]
# Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver (11.90 million)[2]
# Animal Crossing: Wild World (10.79 million)[5]
# Super Mario 64 DS (9.65 million)[2]
# Mario Party DS (8.21 million)[3]
# Pokémon Platinum (7.06 million)[3]
# Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies (5.31 million approximately; 4.29 million in Japan,[7] 1.02 million overseas)[2]
# Big Brain Academy (5.01 million)[8]
# Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness (4.5 million)[5]
# Mario and Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story (4.13 million)[2]
# The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (4.13 million)[8]
They do not seem like shovelware to me! A lot of children's games, but still legitimate games.
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http://gizmodo.com/5284501/brain-exercise-with-dr-kawashima-comes-to-the-iphone (http://gizmodo.com/5284501/brain-exercise-with-dr-kawashima-comes-to-the-iphone)
This was the DS killer app among casuals
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Seriously, Sanus just posted a legitimate response, showing that legit games make up the top selling games sold on the DS and you keep on babbling about casual bullshit.
Yes, casuals would buy a system for a game or two, but the DS has more hardcore games than more systems out there right now. Have you even looked at all the DS games? Seriously, some great stuff to be found. Also that game you linked isn't going to sell shit.
KTHX.
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Seriously, Sanus just posted a legitimate response, showing that legit games make up the top selling games sold on the DS and you keep on babbling about casual bullshit.
Yes, casuals would buy a system for a game or two, but the DS has more hardcore games than more systems out there right now. Have you even looked at all the DS games? Seriously, some great stuff to be found. Also that game you linked isn't going to sell shit.
KTHX.
Shadi already said Nintendo boils his blood. Not sure if we can change Shadi's viewpoint.
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That's my point. Casual Gamers don't buy gaming systems. They buy fads.
Everything you buy and are interested in? Literally like 3 years ago you thought Sony was the worst thing in the industry, now you think they are the savior or someshit.
Not sure why you are so negative to games you never played or know anything about.
You know WEKOOLBRO, but you really need to stop being such a dingus sometimes, ya dingus!
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Everything you buy and are interested in? Literally like 3 years ago you thought Sony was the worst thing in the industry, now you think they are the savior or someshit.
Not sure why you are so negative to games you never played or know anything about.
You know WEKOOLBRO, but you really need to stop being such a dingus sometimes, ya dingus!
Hating Sony is so 2007/2008, hating Nintendo is the cool thing to do now.
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Hardcore games don't sell hardware in the numbers the DS was getting. All those sales were from mainstream casual appeal. The 3DS won't get those sales, period.
Nintendo America is still stuck in the casual mindset. They know that games like Xenobade and Last Story won't sell many Wii units, that's why they don't care to publish it, because they are still stuck in the casual mindset, and it's going to bite them in the ass.
Casuals don't care about their systems anymore.
Anyways, I'm done with this topic. I made my point and I can't stand being screamed at by you guys. We will just have to agree to disagree.
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If hardware doesn't sell due to hardcore gamers, then why are the hardcare games selling in ratios of like... 1 in every 5? Why isn't there much casual ware on there? Makes no sense.
You made no points and are whimpering away. Use logic when debating.
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Hmm maybe were having a misunderstanding
I never said the hardware wasn't selling to hardcore gamers. I said the majority of the sales are casuals, which is why a lot of non-nintendo software sold horrible on the DS.
Its the same situations similar to the Wii. That's what happens when you have a casual audience. They buy the system, and 1 or 2 games. Then never touch it again. Casuals bought the DS, Nintendogs, Braintraining, never touched it again. Just like on the Wii how casuals bought Wii/Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Fit, and never touched it again.
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Where is prove that most hardware sells to casuals?
Also selling to casuals is better than selling to no one. Lurn business.
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Yeah Shadi, there are holes in your argument.
Just because casual games like Just Dance exist and do good does not mean the majority of people buying the consoles are not interested in the medium at all. In fact, there is more proof that PlayStation 2 and 3 initially sold best to casual gamers because the DVD and Blu-Ray player features were very useful for them.
Not to mention that the hardcore versus casual argument is kind of silly to begin with. The fact that so many "Casuals" bought stuff like the PlayStation 2 and 3 are easily the biggest reason why so many people took high risk chances with the platforms that lead to really great games in the end.
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Hmm maybe were having a misunderstanding
I never said the hardware wasn't selling to hardcore gamers. I said the majority of the sales are casuals, which is why a lot of non-nintendo software sold horrible on the DS.
Its the same situations similar to the Wii. That's what happens when you have a casual audience. They buy the system, and 1 or 2 games. Then never touch it again. Casuals bought the DS, Nintendogs, Braintraining, never touched it again. Just like on the Wii how casuals bought Wii/Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Fit, and never touched it again.
Are you making stuff up now? Wii Fit is played by tons of casuals even today.
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The 3DS sold between 207,000 - 215,000 units last week in Japan. And the vast majority of those sales, Over 200,000 at least, came in the space of three days. Beating even the most optimistic predictions by quite a stretch,
Now they need a constent release of quality titles to keep sales up.
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The price drop has made me consider a holiday purchase, but thats ONLY if Generations and Shinobi are worth playing and if the Mario 3DS game is quality.
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The price drop has made me consider a holiday purchase, but thats ONLY if Generations and Shinobi are worth playing and if the Mario 3DS game is quality.
Pfft, what mainstream Mario game isn't quality?
You have to get Mario Kart and Kid Icarus. :D
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Not a Mario kart fan at all, but Kid Icarus looks pretty cool, despite not caring about the franchise.
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Mario Kart 7 has awful level design, Kid Icarus is stupid Kingdom Heart-like crap that has nothing to do with the original games and Sonic Generations 3DS is a sure fire awful game in almost every regard.
Shinobi looks 'good' coming from a big Shinobi fan and Super Mario 3D Land looks really good I guess. What else is there though? Some game looks cool, but how long can they last? The handheld game market is falling apart lately because each region has completely different interests in the kinds of games they like portable so there is really no safe bet right now.
Screw 3DS right now. The battery life is literally worse than Game Gear and has less good games than that had in the first three months. Wait till the better version of the platform comes out whenever that is. They do not even have any major games secured for next year. If you really have to spend a large sum of money this year, get a PlayStation 3 (just went down in price) to catch up on all of the stuff you said you wanted and move your Blu-Ray player in another room.
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Problem with PS3 is, I have limited TV hookups, limited space and before I even attempt the PS3 library, I have a load of 360 games to play. Not to mention nowhere to put my current blu-ray player, which imo is better than a ps3 blu player and I'd hate to stick it in storage. I actually have far more time to play portables than home consoles, so a Vita might be the thing for me. Thanks for the advice though!
Probably gonna just pass on the 3DS until a new version arrives with improved batt life and more games release.
I think it's stupid how some members of the media have compared the 3DS to the Dreamcast. Dreamcast was awesome out of the gate, 3DS was not. The platfoms, launch library and advancements don't compare. :P
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Mario Kart 7 has awful level design
Looks good (AND FUN!) to me.
Kid Icarus is stupid Kingdom Heart-like crap that has nothing to do with the original games
I don't remember Kingdom Hearts being an on-rail flying shooter.
Sonic Generations 3DS is a sure fire awful game in almost every regard.
Mushroom Hill looks and plays great.
Shinobi looks 'good' coming from a big Shinobi fan and Super Mario 3D Land looks really good I guess. What else is there though? Some game looks cool, but how long can they last? The handheld game market is falling apart lately because each region has completely different interests in the kinds of games they like portable so there is really no safe bet right now.
A lot of games are still being announced and in development. I don't think anyone should worry as a lot of good games are coming out this Christmas and the following year. Handhelds are a bit different in the "market" area as a lot of genres that don't sell (RPGs) on 360/PS3 sell AMAZING on the DS/3DS/PSP.
The battery life is literally worse than Game Gear and has less good games than that had in the first three months. Wait till the better version of the platform comes out whenever that is. They do not even have any major games secured for next year. If you really have to spend a large sum of money this year, get a PlayStation 3 (just went down in price) to catch up on all of the stuff you said you wanted and move your Blu-Ray player in another room.
The Game Gear's battery life is only 3 hours, while the 3DS can last up to 5. How is this "LITERALLY WORSE" then the Game Gear's battery life? (And the 3DS doesn't even use standard batteries, let alone 4!!)
And why wait for a better version? A lot of good games are coming out now and the 3DS is pretty cheap for what it brings. Wii graphics with 3D at only 180 dollars, what a great deal! PS3 is still more expensive then the 3DS and has games that cost more. (I don't even use Blu-Ray either, HD STREAMING ftw)
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I think the new Mario Land game will be worth picking up the system for.
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I'll wait 2 years when there is a decent design out and has good games. I'll get Vita now.
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I'll wait 2 years when there is a decent design out and has good games. I'll get Vita now.
That's the smartest thing to do, but between the price cut, and the new red model (I'm a sucker for a red system), it's going to be tough for me to wait it out.
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Why not say the same for Vita? Vita will obviously get multiple design changes (1000,2000,3000,GO,SPECIAL 1000) and several price drops.
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I'd say mostly because there was such a huge jump in quality between the original DS, and DS Lite. It's pretty easy to imagine something similar with the 3DS. Specifically, improved battery life.
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Yeah, all the new PSP's did was make them thinner and add little things like 'mic' or skype. The new system already has all that. So it will probably get thinner... not that I care much. I still have the phat original PSP and I enjoy the hell out of it. I don't think I need an upgrade.
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So far this price drop is working pretty well for Ninty, they just need to hurry and get their big titles released soon.
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Problem with PS3 is, I have limited TV hookups, limited space and before I even attempt the PS3 library, I have a load of 360 games to play. Not to mention nowhere to put my current blu-ray player, which imo is better than a ps3 blu player and I'd hate to stick it in storage. I actually have far more time to play portables than home consoles, so a Vita might be the thing for me. Thanks for the advice though!
Probably gonna just pass on the 3DS until a new version arrives with improved batt life and more games release.
I think it's stupid how some members of the media have compared the 3DS to the Dreamcast. Dreamcast was awesome out of the gate, 3DS was not. The platfoms, launch library and advancements don't compare. :P
How is your Blu-Ray better than a PS3?
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Sure hope most of these rumors are true:
http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/games/874766-new-3ds-games-rumoured-yoshi-ace-attorney-5-and-baiten-kaitos-3 (http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/games/874766-new-3ds-games-rumoured-yoshi-ace-attorney-5-and-baiten-kaitos-3)
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Yoshi by Good-Feel? I dunno, they're games are usually boring.
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Epic Yarn was awesome, though I wanted Artoon to work on it again.
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Ace Attorney 5 is a bit surprising considering the Layton crossover also in development. I think that Baten Kaitos 3 and Miku Hatsune are pretty safe bets at this point considering how they've already been rumoured by previous sources (and considering the original rumors Miku was hinted with are slowly coming true, I think it's pretty much guaranteed.)
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On the issue of 3DS titles, the Shinobi demo at 3DS was superb. It felt like a Shinobi game. Doesn't look as ugly on the 3DS as it does in screens either.
Super Mario 3DS is also an excellent title from what I've played. Design was a mix of Mario Galaxy and old school Mario platforming.
Sonic Generations....not so sure. If you liked Sonic 4 and Sonic Rush, you'll probably like it, since the physics and game play are kinda similar, though the physics where a bit better.
Mario Kart 7 played like Mario Kart with hang gliders. I've never been a big fan of Mario Kart, but if you like that series....I didn't see much reason to hate it. Unless you don't want more of the same. Personally, I wish SEGA would just put a port of SASR on it.
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On the issue of 3DS titles, the Shinobi demo at 3DS was superb. It felt like a Shinobi game. Doesn't look as ugly on the 3DS as it does in screens either.
Super Mario 3DS is also an excellent title from what I've played. Design was a mix of Mario Galaxy and old school Mario platforming.
Sonic Generations....not so sure. If you liked Sonic 4 and Sonic Rush, you'll probably like it, since the physics and game play are kinda similar, though the physics where a bit better.
Mario Kart 7 played like Mario Kart with hang gliders. I've never been a big fan of Mario Kart, but if you like that series....I didn't see much reason to hate it. Unless you don't want more of the same. Personally, I wish SEGA would just put a port of SASR on it.
Thanks for the info.