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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Centrale on March 09, 2010, 11:16:23 pm
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My pre-order is coming in tomorrow. I managed to time it so I just completed Yakuza 2 over this past weekend (well, by "completed" I mean I finished the main storyline, and most of the side missions... percentage-wise I was more along the lines of about 50% through all the collecting, eating, drinking, etc.). The reviews are coming in looking good.
I'm... I'm blissful. I can't wait to play through Kazuma's uneventful retirement by the beach, and not have to worry about any more yakuza conflicts. 30 hours of relaxing with the kids and putting all that crimeworld stuff to rest for good, here I come!
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I sure hope that my UFO Catcher Sim plus Yakuza game comes in tomorrow, too. ^__^
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I went to pick up my pre-order yesterday, but they said that it wasn't there yet. I'm super busy with school and work for the next few days, so I won't be able to pick it up for a little while.
On top of that, I just started Bayonetta a couple of days ago, so I think I'll probably finish that off before I get into Yakuza.
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Has there been rumblings of Yakuza 4 making its way to the US? I guess sales of 3 will give us an answer, but having made the commitment to bring english speaking folks part 3 opens the doors to 4.
Also, are 1&2 on PSN?
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Has there been rumblings of Yakuza 4 making its way to the US? I guess sales of 3 will give us an answer, but having made the commitment to bring english speaking folks part 3 opens the doors to 4.
Also, are 1&2 on PSN?
Sega said recently that if you want Yakuza 4, buy Yakuza 3.
I'm still deciding if I should get it right now, I would like to get a PS3 eventually, and theres games Iwant for it, but... it's still kinda pricey.
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Yeah, as it stands I could never afford another console right now, and a deciding factor on getting a PS3 would be the promise of an english Yakuza 4. So it's sort of a catch-22: I can't afford Yakuza 3, but wouldn't really care to play it unless the rest of the series sees an english release. Beyond Yakuza there is no real PS3 Sega game calling my name. The Last Guardian looks awesome, but I still need to play Shadow of Colossus.
I'll probably buy a new PS2 (my current one has a faulty video out) and complete Yakuza 1&2 plus Shadow of Colossus. Then, probably next Christmas, buy a PS3 on the cheap.
Not to sound like a broken record, but I hate the fact that the PS3 does not play PS2 games.
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Yeah, as it stands I could never afford another console right now, and a deciding factor on getting a PS3 would be the promise of an english Yakuza 4. So it's sort of a catch-22: I can't afford Yakuza 3, but wouldn't really care to play it unless the rest of the series sees an english release. Beyond Yakuza there is no real PS3 Sega game calling my name. The Last Guardian looks awesome, but I still need to play Shadow of Colossus.
I'll probably buy a new PS2 (my current one has a faulty video out) and complete Yakuza 1&2 plus Shadow of Colossus. Then, probably next Christmas, buy a PS3 on the cheap.
Not to sound like a broken record, but I hate the fact that the PS3 does not play PS2 games.
Yeah the no BC annoyed me as well, but considering the PS2 slim is cheaper than an Xbox 360 game (or it was when I bought it), I just got one of those instead.
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Has there been rumblings of Yakuza 4 making its way to the US? I guess sales of 3 will give us an answer, but having made the commitment to bring english speaking folks part 3 opens the doors to 4.
Also, are 1&2 on PSN?
Sega said recently that if you want Yakuza 4, buy Yakuza 3.
I'm still deciding if I should get it right now, I would like to get a PS3 eventually, and theres games Iwant for it, but... it's still kinda pricey.
Maybe the idiots should not expect us to buy hundreds of dollars (or in your case probably a thousand) on all their new games all at once. There is no way normal people can buy all the stuff they are releasing right now.
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I got my copy today, and played through the first couple of chapters.
I was quite surprised to see how much up-front storyline there is. I thought that the game would keep a good ratio of gameplay to cutscenes and dialogue, but nope. It was around 10% gameplay, and 90% cutscenes and dialogue. Hopefully that ratio will even out as I get deeper into the game.
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I got my copy today, and played through the first couple of chapters.
I was quite surprised to see how much up-front storyline there is. I thought that the game would keep a good ratio of gameplay to cutscenes and dialogue, but nope. It was around 10% gameplay, and 90% cutscenes and dialogue. Hopefully that ratio will even out as I get deeper into the game.
The games start off very cutscene-heavy to set everything up, I noticed that on Yakuza 2 especially.
Don't worry, it gets much more intense and gameplay heavy as you go.
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The game is just setting up and recapping the events from the previous games as well as putting in motion the storyline. It allows much more freedom later on.
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That's reassuring to hear, guys. ^^ Not to say that watching the cut scenes was so bad. Since I (now regretfully) did not play the first two games, it helped to inform me on who these characters are and what they are like.
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That's reassuring to hear, guys. ^^ Not to say that watching the cut scenes was so bad. Since I (now regretfully) did not play the first two games, it helped to inform me on who these characters are and what they are like.
All you need to know is Goro Majima = da best.
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Game data is now installing :D.
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Game data is now installing :D.
Forgot about this...
*looks into deleting stuff*. Well I can delete the Just Cause demo and the PSP demos I have yet to install on the PSP when I'm ready.
:afroman:
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It's a 5GB install, so make sure to clean out lots.
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Really wish I didn't have the linux install. :oops:
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All you need to know is Goro Majima = da best.
I kicked his ass at level 1, like a knife through butter. =P
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I love people's reaction to the Yakuza 3 content cut. It just shows there are more crazy people out there in the world then we think we know :afroman:
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I don't mind if the cut content was only stuff like hostess bar, but side missions, especially over 9 in the first 4 chapters is stretching it.
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I don't mind if the cut content was only stuff like hostess bar, but side missions, especially over 9 in the first 4 chapters is stretching it.
I agree, its fucking retarded. I really hate Sega America they find ways to fuck everything up and shit on the fanbase and Segas rep every bloody year.
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I don't mind if the cut content was only stuff like hostess bar, but side missions, especially over 9 in the first 4 chapters is stretching it.
Those missions work directly into the content that was cut, don't tell me you didn't expect some missions not to be cut out either? Yakuza 1 and 2 even had missions based primary on the host content, like how you had to save one of your hostess from her boyfriend beating her up or had to get certain items for the girls.
Like I said previously, if the hostess clubs were going to be cut, there is a big knock on effect to the whole game.
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Why does everyone automatically think this is just down to SOA. It a lot of cases its not down to cost cutting (otherwise SEGA wouldn't have translated most of the DLC) and its other cuts are made at Rating Board , or more SONY request .
I really don't know why SOA/E even bothered , it ill get killed in sales, and everyone will moan about Content missing - most of which they wouldn't have the 1st clue about (Jp Quiz) or would have noticed , unless reading about it in the Web .
Rather than Give SEGA credit , for even translating the game in the 1st place, after the 1st two games flopped .
And until SEGA Japan sort out Sonic once and for all, and start to pump out Better 360 and PS3 next gen productions, SEGA Rep will be minimal
Though to be fair Sonic Team will surprise a few imo
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The decision was SEGA West, not SEGA of America. We all know that SEGA Europe/America are 'united', right?
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It's probably has to do with a large amount of SEGA not even letting people know about content cut from the game. Poor show, that public relations department of theirs.
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I wish they would have spent the money it took to work on Resonance of Fate (basically wasted money) to expand on making Yakuza on both HD consoles and profitable outside of Japan.
SEGA really needs to stop or at least heavily slow down their creation of new IPs constantly. The reason Nintendo is doing so good is because they have a good amount of franchises people know and love. Sonic the Hedgehog, Total War, Football Manager, Super Monkey Ball and maybe Virtua Fighter games only is not enough. It was especially a missed chance with Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing to have it be designed more around games out and coming, instead of just stuff SUMO employees like.
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I spent waaaay too much time playing Yakuza 3 yesterday, lol. I'm currently in Chapter 4, trying to do as many sub missions as I can to build up experience points.
Tomorrow (in-game), I leave Kiryu's blandy bland domestic life behind, so hooray for that! ^__^
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Sonic the Hedgehog, Total War, Football Manager, Super Monkey Ball and maybe Virtua Fighter games only is not enough.
Just having 4 core IPs is more than enough.
But the state of three of those core IPs are not in good health, they must be expanded on further and improved on, this is SEGA's biggest problem. The Mega Drive had a large amount of new IPs designed specifically for the console and it was SEGA's most successful stint.
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Sonic the Hedgehog, Total War, Football Manager, Super Monkey Ball and maybe Virtua Fighter games only is not enough.
Just having 4 core IPs is more than enough.
But the state of three of those core IPs are not in good health, they must be expanded on further and improved on, this is SEGA's biggest problem. The Mega Drive had a large amount of new IPs designed specifically for the console and it was SEGA's most successful stint.
That was mainly because most of them had multiple outings.
Shining, Ecco the Dolphin, Illusion/General Disney, Shinobi, Streets of Rage, Sonic the Hedgehog, Monaco GP, Phantasy Star, Golden Axe, and even stuff like Eternal Champions all had multiple and successful releases. I do not think having four main IPs is a very healthy bet for such a large company that constantly throws large amounts of money for such big projects.
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That has more to do with how times have changed. A lot of hit video games in the modern age required much more time and money to develop than Golden Axe or Revenge of Shinobi did back in the Sega Genesis days.
But hey, I'm all for SEGA doing some low budget retro styled games on downloadable services, like what Konami is doing with their "Rebirth" series.
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But SEGA wants to have multiple outings for the new IPs they have produced? They've done that now with Valkyria Chronicles and are going to do that with 7th Dragon, they even want to do it with End of Eternity. They wanted to do it with a few other failed series probably, like Golden Axe and SEGA Rally.
And SEGA has 4 really big selling IPs, but then they have IPs that still sell generally well, like Phantasy Star and The House of the Dead. For a publisher of their size, the biggest problem isn't just the new IPs, it's stuff like Sonic and Monkey Ball are failing due to quality.
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That has more to do with how times have changed. A lot of hit video games in the modern age required much more time and money to develop than Golden Axe or Revenge of Shinobi did back in the Sega Genesis days.
That is not really what I mean. Why make Wacky World of Sports and sell it at $30 at launch when you can make it Sonic Shuffle 2 instead and have it sell a million at full price. Instead of outsourcing so many RPGs like Sands of Destruction and Resonance of Fate, they could have paid those developers to make new entries in a series, or like why not port Phantasy Star Portable 2 to Wii? Little stuff like this just shows to me SEGA does not know how to handle it's IPs very well now.
But hey, I'm all for SEGA doing some low budget retro styled games on downloadable services, like what Konami is doing with their "Rebirth" series.
Those were outsourced by M2, which also made a lot of the SEGA AGES 2500 series. This is another point of mine, with releases such as The House of the Dead Overkill, try and get other people to use their IPs and just publish them instead. I want to see them try this out more often.
But SEGA wants to have multiple outings for the new IPs they have produced? They've done that now with Valkyria Chronicles and are going to do that with 7th Dragon, they even want to do it with End of Eternity. They wanted to do it with a few other failed series probably, like Golden Axe and SEGA Rally.
And SEGA has 4 really big selling IPs, but then they have IPs that still sell generally well, like Phantasy Star and The House of the Dead. For a publisher of their size, the biggest problem isn't just the new IPs, it's stuff like Sonic and Monkey Ball are failing due to quality.
Well they are doing it wrong still I think. Just making a lot of games in a series is not going to do much (look at the Army Men series), they need general appeal. Sonic is losing it with so many clashing styles that all interest entirely different people, not with general quality loss.
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Moving past the thread killing post above mine...
I finally started digging in to the good stuff of Yakuza 3 today. I love Kamurocho. ^__^
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Yeah, as it stands I could never afford another console right now, and a deciding factor on getting a PS3 would be the promise of an english Yakuza 4.
Why the hell would you want to go back to an overdub? The voice acting killed it for me in the original.
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Lack of responses, this just isn't good enough!
You know, knowing exactly what is going helps to really expand greatly on the enjoyment of the game. The storyline is really great and, whilst I know some people probably wouldn't like it, I feel the orphanage chapters really help set the game on it's way, almost do not want to leave those kids behind to go to Tokyo.
Of course, the game picks up even more and it does help that the supporting characters are all nicely done in their own way, even if they last only for a few scenes. That's another thing, the scenes that are directed and fully voiced are all impressively done, one of my favourites being Goh Hamazaki's scene in the Chinese restaurant, oh and practically every scene Majima is in.
[spoiler:20jk54ob]The scene where he drives a contruction truck outside the Diet bulding and then starting to panic because he thought he ran Kazuma over was pretty darn funny.[/spoiler:20jk54ob]
Also even with the hours I've put into this game my completion rate is somewhat low, even without the extra minigames, a serious amount of content is put into this title.
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Finished the games story... but only got a 12% complete rate...
The story gets really good nearing the second half and the final quarter is awesome!
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Yeah, as it stands I could never afford another console right now, and a deciding factor on getting a PS3 would be the promise of an english Yakuza 4.
Why the hell would you want to go back to an overdub? The voice acting killed it for me in the original.
No no, I meant english as in a release in english speaking countries. I wasn't saying english as in an english dub.
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I'm progressing really slowly through the story, in Chapter 4 so far. I'm really enjoying the atmosphere in Okinawa. Lots of funny little moments. Also digging the fishing more than I expected to.
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Yeah, I'm taking this game slowly, like a fine wine.
(The fact that the side missions provide hours of extra gameplay doesn't hurt, either. ^__^)
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The tranny missions are so great, even Kazuma Kiryu has fears! And damn, does the Ultimate Fighting Box keep you busy for sometime, still though, I felt Yakuza 1's was the best, but than again, I haven't played that one in a while, should go through it again.
Just also glaced over the reactions from SEGA.com members, haha at how some of them are acting, you'd think this was solely the most important thing to them to be released this year, which would be rather sad.
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I'm surprised that they're still dwelling around there. :| I think their whole lives must revolve around crying over their precious lost hostess bars.
Anyway, I stopped playing this game for well over a week (possibly near two weeks), but after picking up again yesterday, I think I'm finally nearing the end. ^__^ Yay!
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I'm playing through Chapter 4 right now.
I didn't really spend much time on side missions and mini games in the first two games, but I can't seem to stop right now. I just planned on doing the main things, but I keep getting distracted by random tasks, then keep getting started on new missions while I'm finishing older ones. Gotta find somebody that wrote a suicide note, but somebody's daughter's gone missing. Looking for the daughter, and some guy had his fish stolen. It's a never ending cycle.
Pool's pretty fun, and I had a lot more fun with the Karaoke mini-game than I thought I would. Some catchy tunes in there.
I figured this game would probably take around 15-20 hours to get through, but I've blown about 4 on chapter 4 alone.
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Red Brick Hotel was hilarious :D
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Well, after dropping this game for like over a whole month, I picked it back up again and am now nearing the very end. ^__^
[spoiler:18lorobs]Was anyone else surprised by Kazuma crying over Rikiya? He must have had deeper feelings for Rikiya than he ever let on. ^^[/spoiler:18lorobs]
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[spoiler:4aa7sigw]Not really. Rikiya was kindof like a little brother to him by the end of everything. Kazuma was like his hero, and Kazuma felt that need to look out for him all the time.[/spoiler:4aa7sigw]
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[spoiler:vw1bbkwy]No, they were clearly lovers because heterosexual men are not allowed to cry over each other. Or he had sand in his eyes.[/spoiler:vw1bbkwy]
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[spoiler:1ovpzt8v]Not really. Rikiya was kindof like a little brother to him by the end of everything. Kazuma was like his hero, and Kazuma felt that need to look out for him all the time.[/spoiler:1ovpzt8v]
[spoiler:1ovpzt8v]Not really though... he acted towards Rikiya the same way he acts towards everyone else: Very sternly with a no nonsense attitude.
But then, I never saw him cry for anyone else. Even when an older Yakuza acquaintance died, he wasn't showing much in the way of emotion. Something gives. It's an otherwise completely out of character moment for him.[/spoiler:1ovpzt8v]
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[spoiler:28uzltml]Not really. Rikiya was kindof like a little brother to him by the end of everything. Kazuma was like his hero, and Kazuma felt that need to look out for him all the time.[/spoiler:28uzltml]
[spoiler:28uzltml]Not really though... he acted towards Rikiya the same way he acts towards everyone else: Very sternly with a no nonsense attitude.
But then, I never saw him cry for anyone else. Even when an older Yakuza acquaintance died, he wasn't showing much in the way of emotion. Something gives. It's an otherwise completely out of character moment for him.[/spoiler:28uzltml]
Not nearly as out of character as anything even hinting at being gay... considering all the girls he chats up, his girlfriend in the first game the obvious 'love interest' cop in the second game etc.
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Not nearly as out of character as anything even hinting at being gay... considering all the girls he chats up, his girlfriend in the first game the obvious 'love interest' cop in the second game etc.
Some people bat for both teams. :P
[spoiler:3hx07kb8]I have a feeling that Kazuma wouldn't cry over one of those hostess girls like he did for Rikiya. So, you know.[/spoiler:3hx07kb8]
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[spoiler:ogq4s8bt]If one of my friends was shot in front of me chances are I would be extremely upset and chances are I’d be more sad then if a random girl was shot. That doesn't suddenly mean id rather have sex with my friend... Get a grip dude...[/spoiler:ogq4s8bt]
What is wrong with you? Are you really that desperate for everyone to be gay that you try to see any little hint of affection as some kind of homosexual conspiracy? Do you have aspergers syndrome or something because clearly you cannot read emotion or are you just some kind of militant gay.
Either way I'm tired of this sexuality shit coming up in every topic you enter, you don't see anyone else doing it. give it a rest.
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Do some of the side missions. There are two side stories at least with Rikiya that actually have cutscenes. One set is all about getting that tatoo of his finished, and the other is about him running into someone that he remembers from childhood.
Both of them really flesh out the Kazuma/Rikiya "bro-lationship"
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I'm playing through a JP copy of Yakuza 4 atm and it reeeealy has to be said, there are some very interesting photo opportunities in the cellphone photo snapping mini games.
The best one is just some random fat guy doing acrobatics high in the air with stolen women's underwear!
Another with a guy taking some kid hostage and a gust of wind blows up the mother's dress (who happens to be pointing a gun at the dude), showing her panties. Hilarity ensues.
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I really hope they announce a North American release date for that one soon.
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I wonder if they will censor it for the English release if they do one,
Yakuza 4 has a scene where one of the character looks like he may be considering raping haruka after he is saved by her from drowning.
To cut a long story short he pins her to the ground and sweat-drops onto her before pulling an extremley akward looking facial expression.
I'm not sure how Sega will go about translating this kind of event in a way that doesn't get demonised by the press as gaming destroying the moral fibber of society, although it does happen within a legitimate narrative context so they may not have to cut anything out since it is all innuendo and suggestion more than anything 'too far'. But you never know how the tabloid press crazies will interpret something these days. :roll:
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Uh, could we keep the Yakuza 4 spoilers out of the Yakuza 3 thread?
Thanks, much appreciated. :|
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For Yakuza 4, I doubt they would cut as much as 3 considering how SEGA have said they want to make the franchise at least a minor hit outside of Japan and by just how many fans they made mad by removing the simplest of things. The hostess bars cannot be cut as one of the characters owns one and it plays a major part of his story, so there is this at least.
As for the Haruka scene... I do not think that is all that bad when you consider the other sexual innuendos that go through the series. What they can do with the scene Chizzles mentioned is they can just say the guy is hurting Haruka, and it makes Kazuma mad. I guess the fanbase would freak out poorly again, but whatever!
In a similarly related topic, I have no idea how they would ever translate Kenzan (not that I ever expected them to), as the first scene in the game [spoiler:3ol0lqcm]shows young girls being sold off into prostitution.[/spoiler:3ol0lqcm] It would be hilarious to see how anyone could make that look like anything else.
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Well, I did get around to beating Yakuza 3, finally. What a really weird ending that was.
But now, I think I'm going to do a second playthrough in the "Premium" mode. ^__^ Another 80 hours of my life to blow, hooray!