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Title: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: crackdude on July 24, 2012, 10:21:19 am
http://www.psu.com/a016227/Sonic-Adventure-3-domains-spotted-in-the-wild (http://www.psu.com/a016227/Sonic-Adventure-3-domains-spotted-in-the-wild)


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The chaps at TSSZ (http://www.tssznews.com/2012/07/23/four-sonic-adventure-3-domains-registered-by-someone/) have spotted a total of six domains for Sonic Adventure 3, indicating a sequel to the Blue Blur’s Dreamcast series may be in the works.[/font]Registered by the French division of hosting company 1&1 Internet, the domains apparently cropped up in late-April, and include the following:sonicadventure3.com, sonicadventure3.net, sonicadventure3.org, sonicadventure3.info, sonicadventure3.fr, sonicadventure3.euOf course, the domains may simply be unofficial and in no way point towards a new Sonic Adventure; currently, they all direct to a default landing not associated with developer SEGA.Furthermore, previous domain registrations for the series – namely the then-forthcoming Sonic Generations, Sonic Free Riders and Sonic the Hedgehog 4 – originated under domain registration outfit EuroDNS.Then again, maybe, just maybe, SEGA’s recent re-release of the original Sonic Adventure and the planned HD revamp of its follow-up later this year could very well be a means of whetting the public’s appetite for a full-fledged sequel.
After all, out of all the 3D Sonic games, the Adventure series was undeniably one of the most successful and well-received endeavours to date.


I guess it's just being blown out of proportions, but interesting.
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: Barry the Nomad on July 24, 2012, 10:25:34 am
TSSZ? Eh, I'll wait until something else crops up regarding this. Don't believe it just yet.

Might be that given SA2 is releasing soon, they wanted to snatch up the other numbers so some porno site doesn't get it first.

Or its just a hoax.
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: Radrappy on July 24, 2012, 10:37:25 am
oh god please no.  I thought we had this shit firmly behind us. 
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: max_cady on July 24, 2012, 11:55:00 am
Odd... Sonic Wreck's Twitter feed mentioned that someone had registered http://sonicunleashed2.com/ (http://sonicunleashed2.com/)
You guys can check it, but nothing shows up. Quite an amazing prank, if you ask me...
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: Happy Cat on July 24, 2012, 12:08:47 pm
Odd... Sonic Wreck's Twitter feed mentioned that someone had registered http://sonicunleashed2.com/ (http://sonicunleashed2.com/)
You guys can check it, but nothing shows up. Quite an amazing prank, if you ask me...

Sonic Wrecks was probably just joking.

From someone who was at Sonic Boom:
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(concerning Sonic Adventure 3)

Will there be a sonic adventure 3?

*the entire crowd goes insane for aprox. 3 minutes. Iizuka couldn't quiet them down.*

Iizuka: "Wow. I never expected that. It's something that can be done in the future if theres enough demand for it"


*later*

"Will sega take time to make games? will there be a gap in between games?"
*the crowd chants SA3! SA3! SA3!*

Unfortunately you had to be there, no one managed to catch it on video. The smile on Iizuka's face was like $_$ <--- "I know how to please the fans now!"


It was amazing. I wish I had a decent camera..... well... next year.

of course you know, can't take everything iizuka says as 100% fact, he might already be working on it!
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: crackdude on July 24, 2012, 05:14:45 pm
I would cream my pants for sure if it happened though.
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: CrazyT on July 24, 2012, 08:25:29 pm
Honestly a sonic adventure in the style of the first game, without big the cat and treasure hunting sounds pretty darn amazing to me. But if there's one thing we've learned in the last few years, it's that sonicsteam very often simply missunderstands what people like.

A good few examples of missunderstandings are that fans of the classics only like 2d games and vice versa. Because of this, classic fans being the biggest whiners for not being satisfied with finally another great 2d game that goes "back to the roots". That we want flashy graphics but at the same time cheeply made retro music done by Jun Senoue instead of modern technology sound.

What i'm afraid of is, They might think that SA3 requests means that they loved the treasure hunting and mech gameplay too. That it means the majority loved the crush 40 buttrock music heard throughout the whole game. Seriously however, these things are loved by people, but i'd say they are a minority. Not a great minority but defenitly smaller than it used to be at the time. And overall to the general gamer it sounds like garbage compared to the amazing compositions found in sonic adventure 1 and sonic colors. I really hope they will have Tomoya Ohtani be the music director of the game.
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: crackdude on July 25, 2012, 04:47:01 am
What i'm afraid of is, They might think that SA3 requests means that they loved the treasure hunting and mech gameplay too. That it means the majority loved the crush 40 buttrock music heard throughout the whole game. Seriously however, these things are loved by people, but i'd say they are a minority. Not a great minority but defenitly smaller than it used to be at the time. And overall to the general gamer it sounds like garbage compared to the amazing compositions found in sonic adventure 1 and sonic colors. I really hope they will have Tomoya Ohtani be the music director of the game.


What the hell are you rambling on about.
When SA2 came out it's soundtrack was praised by both fans and critics. Soundtrack discs of the game shot up in price as they became rare collectors items, Crush 40 got an immense cult following.


If anything the music is simply good. And it fits with each character/level.


You could have picked a bone with numerous other things (few speed levels/exploration/stupid characters/camera sucks/etc), but music is something they definitely should not change for the game. It's a staple of the Adventure games.
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: CrazyT on July 25, 2012, 05:33:22 am
I respect your opinion, but you don't want to alienate the series to the rest of the people. Crush 40 rock music may have gotten a good cult following within the fanbase, but that's still a minority. The term buttrock isnt something i made up myself, I didnt even get the term from within the fanbase, but from public sources.

Well aside from that, I think the series music today is of much better quality with full of creative melodies compared to, what I personally find bland, crush 40 compositions.
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: crackdude on July 25, 2012, 05:53:30 am
You are focusing heavily on the Crush 40 rock songs (I suppose the one's with the corny vocals), but they were very few of the game's songs. They just played a lot (character themes, etc).


But they fit the games. The games are supposed to be cheesy rock-out bursts of adrenalin (the speed levels at least).
You can praise Sonic Colors music all you want. But put it in SA2 and the game becomes effectively worse.


The bandwagon effect of vocal minorities on the internet makes it seem like the music is horrendous. But these are the same people that say that even back in the day SA and SA2 sucked (though they would have no idea since they were too busy playing N64 in the first place).


Sonic gets a LOT of hate coming from the internet. Truth is the public in general loves him. Even buys his worst games (me included).
You really think that the internet's opinion on a game that is played by millions of people worldwide, most of whom don't care to bother going to online forums, many of which don't even care about the internet, is of any reliability?


It's like those vocal Mass Effect fans. "ME3 sucks!"
Do you think anyone cares about them, when people actually enjoy the game?


This being said, I understand your opinion on Crush 40's music. I respect that.
But I seriously do not believe it is the majority's opinion. Most people I know who played the game love the songs. My friends go wild when I pump up Escape From the City in my car.. We can't possibly be the only ones. But then again none of us actually goes out to evangelize the songs. I don't even go to any forum besides SegaBits.
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: Sharky on July 25, 2012, 09:21:04 am
A return to Sonic Adventure is NOT something I would like to see... Except for maybe Shadow becuase he was a clone of Sonic every other gameplay mode in SA and SA2 was nowhere near as fun as the Sonic levels so why bother?

The only thing I would salvage from Sonic Adventure is the Chao Garden/Raising. Now that was a fun destraction that pretty much everyone enjoyed.


If we're going to talk sequals I would LOVE a Sonic Colours 2, that game was absolutely awesome. The powers added to the gameplay with out hindering the sense of speed and created the right amount of lite exploration and platforming. Not to mention returning to old tracks with new wisp powers enabled made each level even more fun to explore time and time again. Oh and the story didn't take itself to seriously which is always a good thing for a game like Sonic.  Sonic Colours 2 all the way!
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: MadeManG74 on July 26, 2012, 01:09:25 am
Even though I'm 'That Guy' who hasn't really gotten excited about or really enjoyed many of the recent games (Sonic 4, Sonic Colours and Generations), I have to say that I am interested in seeing what the next major game will be. It seems that the 2D gameplay style is here to stay so I would expect some levels or segments at least to be 2D based again. It'll be interesting to see what direction they take things in, and Sonic Adventure 3 would certainly be a surprise. I strongly doubt it will be though.
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: CrazyT on July 26, 2012, 08:28:32 am
You are focusing heavily on the Crush 40 rock songs (I suppose the one's with the corny vocals), but they were very few of the game's songs. They just played a lot (character themes, etc).


But they fit the games. The games are supposed to be cheesy rock-out bursts of adrenalin (the speed levels at least).
You can praise Sonic Colors music all you want. But put it in SA2 and the game becomes effectively worse.


The bandwagon effect of vocal minorities on the internet makes it seem like the music is horrendous. But these are the same people that say that even back in the day SA and SA2 sucked (though they would have no idea since they were too busy playing N64 in the first place).


Sonic gets a LOT of hate coming from the internet. Truth is the public in general loves him. Even buys his worst games (me included).
You really think that the internet's opinion on a game that is played by millions of people worldwide, most of whom don't care to bother going to online forums, many of which don't even care about the internet, is of any reliability?


It's like those vocal Mass Effect fans. "ME3 sucks!"
Do you think anyone cares about them, when people actually enjoy the game?


This being said, I understand your opinion on Crush 40's music. I respect that.
But I seriously do not believe it is the majority's opinion. Most people I know who played the game love the songs. My friends go wild when I pump up Escape From the City in my car.. We can't possibly be the only ones. But then again none of us actually goes out to evangelize the songs. I don't even go to any forum besides SegaBits.
I was 12 when I first played it but I am of the opinion(or at least figured this eventually)  that sonic adventure 2 was the first game with all the drastic changes that I ended up disliking to some extent eventually. So when I talk flak about the adventure series it's mostly towards adventure 2

About the music; Not gonna lie that I have very fond memories of Sonic adventure 2 as well. I really like the game for it's gameplay and for a very great nostalgic reason. The music for me throughout the levels will always sound good to me. And I agree, the ingame music is indeed entertaining. Escape from the city is actually a really good song and i'd even say that if it came out in a game today. I liked it. But i'm really looking at the game as a whole, and it had too many bland compositions imo. As a whole it didn't strike me like sonic adventure 1 did, which really has one of the best OST's in sonic game history including the classics if you ask me. A large variety of Wavemasters best composers with Jun senoue accompanying them with his guitar play. I really love Senoue's work when he collaborates with other good composers.

My point is basically that the music has had a major leap upwards lately, with sonic colors being my personal peak. Jun senoue's work in even sonic generations is something I don't find very good. I mean he managed to make his own city escape sound a little bit worse. It just strikes me as weird how Jun senoue/crush 40's work in Sonic and the secret rings, sonic and the black knight, sonic 4 and finally sonic generations has been very sub par, whereas games like sonic colors where he is not so much involved in have some of the best tracks in it.

Every sonic fan understands the music's importance in the sonic games because it has always been part of sonic's core experience ever since the first game. The classics had very good music in a distinct style, and I feel that Jun senoue is not true to that style, whereas Tomoya Ohtani (http://segaretro.org/Tomoya_Ohtani) has really done the series a great honor if you ask me. Not discrediting his partners like Mariko Nanba (http://segaretro.org/Mariko_Nanba) and Fumie kamatani (http://segaretro.org/Fumie_Kumatani) etc etc
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: crackdude on July 26, 2012, 11:53:36 am
Though I love SA2 and think it's the way a 3D Sonic game should be (we must have some widely different opinions here), I do agree on your point though.


Although I love SA2's soundtrack to death, and enjoy Crush 40's style myself, Jun's latest compositions have been pretty mediocre.


If SA3 was to come out, they should step it up a bit or just pick up other people to make the music. I would still like it to keep the cheesy-adrenalin-pumped-rock tracks for Sonic and hip-hop for Knux tho.
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: Radrappy on July 26, 2012, 04:36:28 pm

If we're going to talk sequals I would LOVE a Sonic Colours 2, that game was absolutely awesome. The powers added to the gameplay with out hindering the sense of speed and created the right amount of lite exploration and platforming. Not to mention returning to old tracks with new wisp powers enabled made each level even more fun to explore time and time again. Oh and the story didn't take itself to seriously which is always a good thing for a game like Sonic.  Sonic Colours 2 all the way!

amen brother.  To this day I find colours to be better than generations on many fronts. 
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: CrazyT on July 27, 2012, 08:59:55 am
Lol, great we found some common ground there crack. I think SEGA delivers good music mostly in general. I'm a big fan of it wether it's Phantasy star online, sonic or I think everyone defenitly loves Yuzo Koshiro's work for streets of rage. It's kind of why i'm sorta critical when things aren't good enough. Because that is really almost never the case with such great composers working at SEGA.

Anyway, It seems that the names arent hosted by SEGA taking from someone who did a bit of research at sonicretro, so it may be fake  :-\
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: ptpattycakes on August 08, 2012, 12:16:50 pm
I hope if they do make Sonic Adventure 3, that its more like the first one.  I'm prob. the only person who really doesn't like SA2....
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: jonboy101 on August 10, 2012, 12:09:48 am
My God, don't they learn?
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: Radrappy on August 10, 2012, 03:46:11 am
My God, don't they live and learn?

fixed

I hope if they do make Sonic Adventure 3, that its more like the first one.  I'm prob. the only person who really doesn't like SA2....
you definitely are not.  I didn't even like it when it first came out.  Something about it felt. . . off.  And I'm sorry crackdude but the vocal tracks for SA2 were butt awful.  Pumpkin hill?  Live and Learn?  Burn it with fire.

But at least the chao gardens were great. 
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: MadeManG74 on August 10, 2012, 04:28:20 am
I liked Live and Learn ;_;

And Knuckles rap songs were the greateast pieces of comedy of the early 2000s.
"A ghost tried to approach me,
HE GOT MARRIED"
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: Radrappy on August 10, 2012, 10:58:36 am
the key word is unintentional comedy.  It's true that SA2 music has some "so bad it's good" charm to it.  But can't we just have "so good it's good" music instead?   
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: jonboy101 on August 10, 2012, 11:02:01 am
the key word is unintentional comedy.  It's true that SA2 music has some "so bad it's good" charm to it.  But can't we just have "so good it's good" music instead?

It'd be like asking for a solid script and voice acting in a HotD game.
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: Radrappy on August 10, 2012, 11:56:34 am
what.  The megdrive games had amazing music.  All this vocal theme song malarky was started with SA1.   

And you've shot yourself in the foot because HoTD:Overkill has smart writing and good voice acting. 
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: CosmicCastaway on August 10, 2012, 05:38:31 pm
Actually, I  think Sonic CD started the vocal theme songs for the series.
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: Radrappy on August 10, 2012, 06:23:17 pm
Actually, I  think Sonic CD started the vocal theme songs for the series.

true.  But to be fair that wasn't the start of anything consistent, given that sonic 3 and S&K didn't have vocal themes at all(because it wasn't even technically possible)  It wasn't until SA1 that EVERY MAIN ENTRY afterwards had to have an awful awful theme(and insert songs to boot).  At least Sonic cd's songs were upbeat, light, and really felt close to what sonic was in the megadrive days. 
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: jonboy101 on August 11, 2012, 12:20:25 am
what.  The megdrive games had amazing music.  All this vocal theme song malarky was started with SA1.   

And you've shot yourself in the foot because HoTD:Overkill has smart writing and good voice acting.

Yes, but it was also a self parody.
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: Radrappy on August 11, 2012, 01:00:48 am
Yes, but it was also a self parody.

so is sonic colors/generations at times.  I'm not even sure what we're debating anymore. 
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: Aki-at on August 11, 2012, 07:20:10 am
Actually, I  think Sonic CD started the vocal theme songs for the series.

Sonic 3D and Sonic R also had vocal music. As soon as Sonic Team had the technology, they jumped onboard with vocal music.

Anyway a Sonic Adventure 3 would be in name only so could not care about this until I see screenshots and some description. Must admit though that I am getting tired of the series sadly.
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: crackdude on August 11, 2012, 07:34:50 am
I wouldn't say I'm tired of the Adventure series since there are only 2 games out, and SA2 is my fav Sonic game.


But truth is the new Sonic games have improved upon it on every tangible aspect. It would be upsetting to take a step back. But it would be cool to see a new cheesy but fun Adventure plot.
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: Radrappy on August 11, 2012, 10:55:59 am
cheesy but fun

but isnt this exactly what the current stories are?  The adventure series plots are better known for their melodrama if anything.  Sonic 06 had practically the exact same style of story telling and I don't think we need to see anything close to that ever again. 
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: crackdude on August 11, 2012, 11:55:14 am
but isnt this exactly what the current stories are?  The adventure series plots are better known for their melodrama if anything.  Sonic 06 had practically the exact same style of story telling and I don't think we need to see anything close to that ever again.


I meant epic world destruction kind of story. With all that 90s action flick cheesiness.


And Sonic 06 was nothing like that. Adventure games did not have furry-human lovin'. Did not have complicated time travel. Did not have Sonic dying and being resurrected by a kiss.
And Sonic 06 didn't have the urban feel, nor Chaos. They tried to make Robotnik realistic for fucks sake.


We understand you don't like the Adventure series that much. But I fail to see the link between those games and Sonic 06. They have more in common with Unleash than anything.
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: Radrappy on August 12, 2012, 03:43:43 am

I meant epic world destruction kind of story. With all that 90s action flick cheesiness.




 Sonic 06 was nothing like that.

waht.  Besides, after a city destroying monster, then a genetic experimentation story, time travel was the next logical step. 


We understand you don't like the Adventure series that much. But I fail to see the link between those games and Sonic 06. They have more in common with Unleash than anything.

ah. the royal "we".  Anyway, I think you have stated very clearly that this is your favorite sonic game so I'm not going to shit on it further.
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: crackdude on August 12, 2012, 02:37:01 pm
Do not be condescending with me dude.


As far as I intended, I was not being aggressive or attacking you at all.


What I meant was that Sonic 06 effectively had nothing in common with the Adventure series besides being a 3D Sonic game. They moved away from the Adventure style completely. A Sonic Adventure 3 would be nothing like 06.


And I can admit SA2's flaws besides being my fav game. The cheesy soundtrack pisses off some people, some stages are boring and the camera is a piece of work sometimes.


Also, I said "we" because you've been replying to everyone systematically for the past page and half or something.


There will never be a perfect Sonic game because Sonic Team can't please everyone, but we should be celebrating what we enjoy most about each Sonic game, and stop trying to figure out which one has the biggest share of shit. We aren't Nintenfags.



Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: Aki-at on August 12, 2012, 03:10:44 pm
I wouldn't say I'm tired of the Adventure series since there are only 2 games out, and SA2 is my fav Sonic game.

I meant the Sonic the Hedgehog series.
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: crackdude on August 12, 2012, 03:34:46 pm
I meant the Sonic the Hedgehog series.
ouch xD
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: CrazyT on August 12, 2012, 09:56:26 pm
This may sound strange coming from me, but Because of my great love for sonic adventure 1(or at least 60% oof that game being sonic,tails, amy and e102 gamma) a sonic adventure 3 even excites me. But the chances they will take inspiration from sa1 instead of 2 seems likely. So that is where my excitement stops. It's too bad sonic has never been consistent after sa1 otherwise things would have been much simpler
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: MadeManG74 on August 13, 2012, 03:34:53 am
Am I the only person who liked big's levels in sonic adventure 1?
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: Team Andromeda on August 13, 2012, 05:56:20 am
I hope its true , Because Sonic Adv was a master piece of a game and the best Sonic game (and well best 3D platform) game I have ever played
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: Sharky on August 13, 2012, 07:30:31 am
I hope its true , Because Sonic Adv was a master piece of a game and the best Sonic game (and well best 3D platform) game I have ever played

I think this is one of the coolest levels in any modern Sonic game, a great mix of speed and platforming and even some early 2D/3D perspective changing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdJ3arrCA6k


That said I probably wouldn't like a return to Sonic Adventure I think it would be very hard to pull it off.
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: crackdude on August 13, 2012, 07:32:06 am
Sky Deck was awesome. I remember being all intense playing that level when I was a kid.
Title: Re: Sonic Adventure 3 domains mysteriously bought
Post by: Team Andromeda on August 13, 2012, 02:11:51 pm
Sky Deck was awesome. I remember being all intense playing that level when I was a kid.

Sky Deck was awesome , but I loved these 2 stages as well

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssbknPnN1d4[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR86QgC3eiE[/youtube]

And oh man was Sonic Adv soundtrack just SEGA at its best