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Title: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: Randroid on January 10, 2013, 12:55:49 am
Recently got a ps3 so I'm slowly playing the sega exclusives that came out on it, and so I started playing Yakuza 4.

Awesome Game!! I'm totally sucked in now. Excellent story telling.

My question, since this game has quite a bit of polish and assuming Y5 will have even more, is playing 1-3 still worth it?

Am I missing anything big, anything critical either to the overall plot, or was perhaps the gameplay better in the older ones?

Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: semmie on January 10, 2013, 01:27:17 am
Recently got a ps3 so I'm slowly playing the sega exclusives that came out on it, and so I started playing Yakuza 4.

Awesome Game!! I'm totally sucked in now. Excellent story telling.

My question, since this game has quite a bit of polish and assuming Y5 will have even more, is playing 1-3 still worth it?

Am I missing anything big, anything critical either to the overall plot, or was perhaps the gameplay better in the older ones?

it is really worth it. arent u curious bout hat happened earlier?
and fo your info yakuza 1 and 2 are the best. so if ur down with 4 then 1 and 2 will make you so happy that you will buy 50 lollypops and lick them without even beinng aware that you actually had 50

this game is really good. it is used by many to dimm their hunger of shen mue.

i think everyone would advice you the same.

nice gaming
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: crackdude on January 10, 2013, 04:49:11 am
There is a Theatre Mode in Y4 where you can catch up on all the events of previous games too.
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: thearcticsea on January 10, 2013, 05:26:39 am
I think Yakuza 1 and 2 are the best honestly. Yakuza 3 was awesome because it was the first time playing that series in "HD", but Yakuza 4 was kind of....... too much of the same?

In the car world there are companies who reinvent every model every few years, and then there's Porsche. Porsche have been making the 911 since 1963 and they have always just changed it slightly every 2 years or so. That being said the original 911 is world's apart from the one being made today, but compare any two back-toback models and they're virtually indistinguishable from one another.

Yakuza is like the 911. Maybe they change a couple of things here and there, but you're essentially buying the same thing.

Alright. Kind of off base car analogy. Should probably go to work and not be on Segabits at 6 am.
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: crackdude on January 10, 2013, 08:38:16 am
You could've just used FIFA dude lol
12 and 13 look very alike, 12 and 11, 11 and 10, 10 and 09.... but 09 and 13 are miles away.
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: thearcticsea on January 10, 2013, 09:01:44 am
I don't always post, but when I do, I post stupid.
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: mylifewithsega on January 10, 2013, 09:12:41 am
I don't always post, but when I do, I post stupid.

I got what you were talking about. Your posts aren't semmie-quality yet. ;)
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: semmie on January 10, 2013, 10:43:56 am
i post always to keep this forum alive. and keeping a forum topic empty is not kind towards another sega fellow.
i post stupid or smart. but i just reply out of the blue. it is the most honest opinion you can get.

did i say smart LOL
stupid is cooler.

but also the story line of yakuza 1 and 2 seem deeper. u got that shenmue feeling. and that dude is better in yakuza 1 and 2 more serious and a good tough character.

as for 3 and 4 there are to much woman alike metrosexual charactes. its a good game still but im not down with that.

thats why i dont like phantasy star universe. come on seriously wearing a tshirt and actually see a navel(button belly) whatever. i mean if a girl does that ok. but a man?
still yakuza 3 and 4 is goooood. but 1 and 2 is better
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: Randroid on January 10, 2013, 11:28:34 am
Cool, thanks everyone. I'm feeling that the general consensus is to get 1 and 2. Oh man, it would be a no-brainer if the HD collections came out here in the west.
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: Barry the Nomad on January 10, 2013, 11:29:03 am
i post always to keep this forum alive. and keeping a forum topic empty is not kind towards another sega fellow.
i post stupid or smart. but i just reply out of the blue. it is the most honest opinion you can get.

@Semmie - I'm sorry, but your posts do anything but. Keeping the forum alive? Since when is the forum dead? Please stop thinking you're some kind of forum hero, or that making stupid posts (which you openly just admitted to making) help the forums in some way. If somebody makes a topic, and you don't have something worthwhile to contribute, then don't contribute. Better to say nothing than to say something stupid. It's just insulting to the community as a whole, and insulting to myself and the other mods who have to clean up the "stupid posts".

I've just had it with you making posts like the above, where you justify the times you've made pointless nonsensical posts. That, in itself, is a pointless post.

You've shown that you can make worthwhile posts, so why not stick to those and stop it with the stupid posts?

Yes, semmie broke my brain.

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Back to Yakuza-related discussion.
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: crackdude on January 10, 2013, 12:06:20 pm
as for 3 and 4 there are to much woman alike metrosexual charactes. its a good game still but im not down with that.

thats why i dont like phantasy star universe. come on seriously wearing a tshirt and actually see a navel(button belly) whatever. i mean if a girl does that ok. but a man?
still yakuza 3 and 4 is goooood. but 1 and 2 is better


I guess videogame characters are always metrosexual, since their appearance is always good (even when handing out the pain in the mean streets of Japan).. But Yakuza characters have a lot of fashion-awareness. It's funny you mention it, since it's actually something I enjoyed in Y4.


(as for the first part of your post.. I'm with Barry. Straighten up dude, cmon)
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: semmie on January 10, 2013, 01:21:06 pm

I guess videogame characters are always metrosexual, since their appearance is always good (even when handing out the pain in the mean streets of Japan).. But Yakuza characters have a lot of fashion-awareness. It's funny you mention it, since it's actually something I enjoyed in Y4.


(as for the first part of your post.. I'm with Barry. Straighten up dude, cmon)

then you also like final fantasy 13 1 n 13 2 right?

and for the last part which part to straighten up?
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: semmie on January 10, 2013, 01:22:31 pm
Cool, thanks everyone. I'm feeling that the general consensus is to get 1 and 2. Oh man, it would be a no-brainer if the HD collections came out here in the west.

it will godwilling. and if not u could still buy it for ps2. its cheap second hand now
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: crackdude on January 10, 2013, 01:30:43 pm
then you also like final fantasy 13 1 n 13 2 right?

and for the last part which part to straighten up?
Both Final Fantasy and Phantasy Star's art direction is edgy futuristic. Not realistic badass. You can't compare both.


Straighten up by getting rid of the bad spelling, stupid comments and pimp dogs.
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: Barry the Nomad on January 10, 2013, 01:35:49 pm
Three posts in a row? Semmie, it's called the "modify" button. Use it.

Moved your first post out of the thread, because I blatantly said no more nonsense and yet you share a stupid image of a dog and give another string of excuses.

Again, stop it now.

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Back to talking about Yakuza, not semmie.

(http://www.edge-online.com/wp-content/uploads/edgeonline/oldfiles/yakuza2_1.jpg)

Anyway, I'd say 1-3 are well worth playing, since Yakuza has a strong emphasis on story. It's like, the first two Harry Potter books are sort of childish, but they're essential to getting the whole story. Or with Shenmue, Shenmue II is a big improvement but the first is still a must play.

However, Yakuza 1 does have the english dub, so if you can get over that then it's worth playing. Yakuza 2 is awesome.
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: Randroid on January 10, 2013, 01:50:45 pm
it will godwilling. and if not u could still buy it for ps2. its cheap second hand now

Cool, if I had come across it somewhere by chance, I would have picked it up anyways (cus of sega). I'll try it out if I do.

I'll hold off on the "Reminisce" movies just in case.

Killer game though. Regret not getting into this series sooner.  I'm loving 4 (Akiyama is such a badass) and I like dead souls, although I stopped playing dead souls to finish 4 first. Haha, the way the crowd on the street runs to see you beat up street punks is soooo cool.
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: semmie on January 10, 2013, 03:06:19 pm
Cool, if I had come across it somewhere by chance, I would have picked it up anyways (cus of sega). I'll try it out if I do.

I'll hold off on the "Reminisce" movies just in case.

Killer game though. Regret not getting into this series sooner.  I'm loving 4 (Akiyama is such a badass) and I like dead souls, although I stopped playing dead souls to finish 4 first. Haha, the way the crowd on the street runs to see you beat up street punks is soooo cool.

i found yakuza 1 for 5 euro and 2 for 7 euro. if you want i can buy them and forward them to you
where your from?

yakuza 1
http://www.2dehands.be/computer-game-consoles/games-software/sony-playstation-2/ps2-games-130722932.html?utm_content=0&utm_campaign=link_advertentie&utm_source=ad_reactie&utm_term=0&utm_medium=email
yakuza 2
http://www.2dehands.be/computer-game-consoles/games-software/sony-playstation-2/ps2-topgames-veel-rpg-andere-141561123.html?qq=yakuza+2+ps2&pcpl=Postcode&list_cat=sony-playstation-2&pc_id=&afd=computer-game-consoles%2Fgames-software%2Fsony-playstation-2

yakuza 2 i managed to make it 7

u can arrange it with them. paypal is safer. and belgium peeps usually speak english
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: Randroid on January 10, 2013, 03:30:32 pm
i found yakuza 1 for 5 euro and 2 for 7 euro. if you want i can buy them and forward them to you
where your from?


Haha, semmie, for some reason, I have No Doubt that you would do that for me.

I'm good though. Too many games these days between Y4, Dead Souls, ASRT, and Anarchy Reigns.

I'll definitely keep the two on my radar, and maybe the HD collections will come out (hopefully right when I'm done with 4).

Thanks for the offer man.
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: max_cady on January 10, 2013, 05:23:16 pm
True that.

I played Yakuza on the PS2. It was the first game I played when I bought the system this Summer.

The english dub is good, the plot is clearly the high point, Kazuma Kiryu is a very likeable character.
The thing that I find very interesting aspect of Yakuza 1 is that it feels like an JRPG.

You roam around this virtual Kabukicho, you get into random battles, there a multitude of sidequests that you can tackle, various oddities and all that jazz. There the dating sim aspect that actually feels very refreshing.
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: semmie on January 10, 2013, 05:36:20 pm
Haha, semmie, for some reason, I have No Doubt that you would do that for me.

I'm good though. Too many games these days between Y4, Dead Souls, ASRT, and Anarchy Reigns.

I'll definitely keep the two on my radar, and maybe the HD collections will come out (hopefully right when I'm done with 4).

Thanks for the offer man.

feel free at all times bro. ;)
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: Nameless 24 on January 11, 2013, 08:31:08 am
I heard that they didn't dub the newer Yakuza games because the English dubs are bad and the fans didn't like it?

Doesn't bad dubbing make a game sometimes, like Shenmue?

I have watched a video of the first Yakuza game in English and I don't think it's honestly that bad...so I don't know why SEGA won't dub the series with better VA's (I am sure there are freelancers who are good but offer a lower contract deal vs the bigger VAs).

Just something I thought was interesting...I don't mind the games subbed in English, but I just didn't understand why the dubs are hated.
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: Grant360 on January 11, 2013, 12:18:26 pm
I think this opens a really interesting argument that I can't work out the answer to.

Sonic 1 is still a fantastic game and I would recommend it to any youngster getting into gaming. Sonic Adventure (As much as i love it) if we are honest plays terribly. I'd tell you to go straight to Generations.

So 3D ages badly? Right? Wrong!!! For the last week or so I have been playing the remake of NiGHTS and the visuals are great. Colourful, bright and the design and imagination is superb.

I think it comes down to a mix of design,art style & genre. JSR, the 2D Sonics, NiGHTs are brilliant to play now. Yet games like GTA3 and FIFA etc. are dreadful (Vice City is acceptable for soundtrack alone). This is because essentially brand new versions of these games have been created and the actual gameplay has evolved.

To bring this all on topic. I guess the question is does Yakuza 1 have enough of the elements to warrant it as a play in its own right. Or is Yakuza 4 what GTA4 is to GTA3, a slicker, visually better version with the bad bits removed?
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: semmie on January 11, 2013, 01:17:05 pm
I think this opens a really interesting argument that I can't work out the answer to.

Sonic 1 is still a fantastic game and I would recommend it to any youngster getting into gaming. Sonic Adventure (As much as i love it) if we are honest plays terribly. I'd tell you to go straight to Generations.

So 3D ages badly? Right? Wrong!!! For the last week or so I have been playing the remake of NiGHTS and the visuals are great. Colourful, bright and the design and imagination is superb.

I think it comes down to a mix of design,art style & genre. JSR, the 2D Sonics, NiGHTs are brilliant to play now. Yet games like GTA3 and FIFA etc. are dreadful (Vice City is acceptable for soundtrack alone). This is because essentially brand new versions of these games have been created and the actual gameplay has evolved.

To bring this all on topic. I guess the question is does Yakuza 1 have enough of the elements to warrant it as a play in its own right. Or is Yakuza 4 what GTA4 is to GTA3, a slicker, visually better version with the bad bits removed?

LOL that was a terrible read bro. shouldnt say that too loud you know what im saying ?

Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: crackdude on January 11, 2013, 01:27:54 pm
That was remarkably rude, semmie. Grant sure brings up an interesting point in his post.
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: Barry the Nomad on January 11, 2013, 01:42:14 pm
LOL that was a terrible read bro. shouldnt say that too loud you know what im saying ?

Semmie, you're one to talk. Unless somebody actually writes something that is terrible to read (http://segabits.com/forums/index.php?topic=2141.msg47478#msg47478), don't be an ass and insult them.

What was it I said about not posting unless you have something of value to say?
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: semmie on January 11, 2013, 01:53:37 pm
allow me

i said
shouldnt say that too loud you know what im saying ?

cause my reads can be more terrible then his

speaking of rude the crackdude (towards ungibbed). and barry dont be defending everyone and be offensive to me. your just a squirell on mother earth. that guy got balls as well. he can ask why. btw i made a rap for barry and imma put it at the i made this section.

hold your heart cause its freestyling
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: mylifewithsega on January 11, 2013, 02:03:16 pm
You eat too many paint-chips as a kid or somethin'?  ;)
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: Barry the Nomad on January 11, 2013, 02:52:56 pm
semmie, seriously, stop it. I've issued a warning, you didn't listen, so i've issued another warning which has resulted in a temporary ban. Tired of this nonsense.
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: thearcticsea on January 12, 2013, 08:08:27 am
I don't think you should ban Semmie. He's clearly just an excitable dude with a tenuous grasp on English.

He's probably the biggest Sega fan on this site, and just because he's a weirdo doesn't make his posts irrelevant.

I agree some of his posts are just bonkers, but that's Semmie. He's passionate to a fault.
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: Barry the Nomad on January 12, 2013, 08:49:05 am
He's muted, not banned. He'll be unmuted in about 12 hours. To be fair, based on the forum rules he should have been banned a month back, so he's lucky.
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: Happy Cat on January 12, 2013, 12:24:50 pm
Just wanted to comment on Semmie, I personally don't see anything wrong with him, reminds me of some people I've seen when I'm out and about in the city. He is quite a passionate SEGA fan too, which is great.

I try to stay away from the moderating side of things here, let Barry and Kori handle that, with that said.. Semmie has definitely broke the rules at least once, he posted picture of cock xD, that could of got someone fired if they were browsing the forums at work, we have strict rules against posting images like that.

Other things he has done like the posts he makes at barry are walking a thin line, and since Barry is a mod, it's not a smart idea to make posts like that :P if Barry tells you to stop, you should probably stop.

I like Semmie, he's a cool guy. Just needs to control himself sometimes.
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: thearcticsea on January 12, 2013, 03:55:51 pm
That's cool. I obviously don't see any of that stuff because you guys must take care of it right away. So that's probably why I saw his temp ban as kind of unprovoked.

Sorry to thread jack!

It's already been said, but play every Yakuza game you can.
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: Happy Cat on January 12, 2013, 04:12:21 pm
That's cool. I obviously don't see any of that stuff because you guys must take care of it right away. So that's probably why I saw his temp ban as kind of unprovoked.

Sorry to thread jack!

It's already been said, but play every Yakuza game you can.

No worries, I'm sorry for continuing the thread jacking. I just know there is a lot of emotions surrounding semmie from various members, and I just wanted to put things into perspective. I'm neutral on the whole matter, although I personally think he is a cool guy.

Anyways, enough of this. Back to talking about Yakuza, anymore off-topic posts will be removed :P /admin powers
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: Nameless 24 on January 17, 2013, 08:41:59 am
To bring this all on topic. I guess the question is does Yakuza 1 have enough of the elements to warrant it as a play in its own right. Or is Yakuza 4 what GTA4 is to GTA3, a slicker, visually better version with the bad bits removed?

Isn't GTA4 itself a debatable game? Some fans hate it for other reasons vs GTA3.

I do like GTA3's exaggerated blood spills to this day....GTA4 is more realistic, but not as fun to play for me.

However, Yakuza is always a mad experience as the plot is never serious but it's one of those which you love...even if you play the older games it does the same bonkers things in terms of plot.
Title: Re: Yakuza 1 - 3, still worth playing?
Post by: CrazyT on January 19, 2013, 08:18:11 am
Haven't genuinely enjoyed a yakuza game ever since yakuza 3. Yakuza 1 & 2 were amazing ps2 experiences but standards rise, games improve and yakuza has been sticking with the same old untouched mechanics, and from 3 it just became noticable that it needed something more. Now it seems i'm just playing the games for the story which kind of sucks.

Edit: so my answer would be yes. The 1st game does have some noticably long loading times but it is worth it. The story is amazing