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Title: Should I buy Shining Force 3, Scenario 2 and 3
Post by: Emmett The Crab on July 14, 2013, 12:44:37 am
I've been playing through the Shining games, and I really like most of them.  as I play through the US version od SF 3, I will be sad when it's over, and The more I play I realize the story is interesting and complex, but you don't need to understand the story to play.  Plus I can open a walkthrough on my iPad.  What do you think, should I go for it?
Title: Re: Should I buy Shining Force 3, Scenario 2 and 3
Post by: OriginalName on July 14, 2013, 03:46:31 pm
If you're comfortable with it, there are fantastic fan translations of both:

http://sf3trans.shiningforcecentral.com/

You can play them on SSF, a modded Saturn, or with a disc swap. I personally bought the original games so I could have the art, but played the English translations.
Title: Re: Should I buy Shining Force 3, Scenario 2 and 3
Post by: Emmett The Crab on July 15, 2013, 02:19:09 pm
If you're comfortable with it, there are fantastic fan translations of both:

http://sf3trans.shiningforcecentral.com/

You can play them on SSF, a modded Saturn, or with a disc swap. I personally bought the original games so I could have the art, but played the English translations.

I have an action replay that allows me to play Japanese games.  Will my save file in SF3 US translate over to the Japanese save files for parts 2 and 3?
Title: Re: Should I buy Shining Force 3, Scenario 2 and 3
Post by: Skateboard on July 16, 2013, 09:09:11 am
Yes, you should be able to. The story is great, you really shouldn't miss it. Without the translation your strategic choices will also be limited and a lot of fun is lost. Some online scripts are old and wrong. The ongoing fan translation is the most accurate even though it had a lot of errors / wrong translations too.
Title: Re: Should I buy Shining Force 3, Scenario 2 and 3
Post by: Emmett The Crab on July 17, 2013, 10:46:27 pm
Okay, thanks.  Now I just need to find $100 somewhere to buy them.
Title: Re: Should I buy Shining Force 3, Scenario 2 and 3
Post by: Emmett The Crab on July 30, 2013, 02:48:08 am
... now I've bought them.  They are on their way from Japan.  So the fan translation project looks awesome.  I'm going t have to find a windows computer to burn the ISO's to disc so I can play them on my Saturn.  Can't wait!  I've only ever burned ISO discs from Mac OS.  Is it complicated in Windows?
Title: Re: Should I buy Shining Force 3, Scenario 2 and 3
Post by: Skateboard on July 31, 2013, 03:29:00 am
It's totally easy. I used this freeware program called "Imgburn" to save all my original SF3 CDs to Isos and to burn the patched Isos to CDs. Worked great for me. I also played on my original Saturn. Great experience. In comparison: the emulator SSF is good too, but some flute sounds do not sound right. http://www.imgburn.com/
Title: Re: Should I buy Shining Force 3, Scenario 2 and 3
Post by: Emmett The Crab on July 31, 2013, 05:28:41 am
Thanks!
Title: Re: Should I buy Shining Force 3, Scenario 2 and 3
Post by: Emmett The Crab on August 11, 2013, 11:31:36 am
It's totally easy. I used this freeware program called "Imgburn" to save all my original SF3 CDs to Isos and to burn the patched Isos to CDs. Worked great for me. I also played on my original Saturn. Great experience. In comparison: the emulator SSF is good too, but some flute sounds do not sound right. http://www.imgburn.com/

Skateboard, I'm guessing to play the CDR's you have to use an action replay or modded Saturn, right?
Title: Re: Should I buy Shining Force 3, Scenario 2 and 3
Post by: Emmett The Crab on August 11, 2013, 11:12:38 pm
OKay, I have burned the disc twice using the program you described.  I included SF3.CUE and SF3 (ISO file).

There's another file, SF3track2.bin (is that supposed to be in there too?  I left it out.
Also, does the CD ROM have to be named right?  Both times I just called it CDROM. 
Neither of my discs I made are loading, but I know the source works. 

Edit:  Now it looks like having an Action Replay is not enough, you have to have a modded Saturn or mess with it so you can disc swap.  Super bummed out. 
Title: Re: Should I buy Shining Force 3, Scenario 2 and 3
Post by: Centrale on August 12, 2013, 08:45:37 am
Yeah, for the Saturn to play burned discs it needs to be modded.  Last time I checked the price of the mod chips (actually a small board) had jumped up quite a bit, but if you're lucky you could find one for about $40.  From what I've read, it's the thinnest, most delicate PCB most people have ever seen. But the mod itself is relatively simple... not a bad project for someone relatively new to soldering.  I would have done mine already but I discovered some kind of corruption in my Saturn's memory, as mentioned in another thread.
Title: Re: Should I buy Shining Force 3, Scenario 2 and 3
Post by: Skateboard on August 13, 2013, 03:29:02 pm
To play CDRs on your Saturn you have to either use the swap trick or install a mod chip. I thought you knew about the swap trick or the mod chip, because you said you have burnt ISOs before. Hope I didn't give you the wrong idea. Depending on your Saturn model you could try the swap trick (youtube, google) instead of modding. You may try the CDRs via a Saturn emulator on your PC if you want to be sure that they work (yabause, SSF). I don't remember what I named my CDRs. Hope you find a way to make it work - it's worth it. :)
Title: Re: Should I buy Shining Force 3, Scenario 2 and 3
Post by: Emmett The Crab on August 14, 2013, 01:11:46 am
I have burned ISO's before, but not Saturn games.  Anyway, I'm a little depressed because both the swap trick and modding the Saturn would probably result in me destroying my console.
Title: Re: Should I buy Shining Force 3, Scenario 2 and 3
Post by: MadeManG74 on August 15, 2013, 12:15:46 am
Play it on an emulator if you can.

I did this years ago and it was one of the best gaming experiences of my life, finally playing the last two games in the trilogy after all those years. They do not dissapoint.

I'm due for a replay...
Title: Re: Should I buy Shining Force 3, Scenario 2 and 3
Post by: Emmett The Crab on August 15, 2013, 12:20:13 am
Play it on an emulator if you can.

I did this years ago and it was one of the best gaming experiences of my life, finally playing the last two games in the trilogy after all those years. They do not dissapoint.

I'm due for a replay...

Well, I can play the original discs using the Action Replay, and follow along using a script, or guide.  That would be easier for me than using an emulator, because I don't really run windows.