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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Spock on December 27, 2013, 10:13:44 pm
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I was wondering if some of you could name a few Sega games that might be hard to find, yet still worth playing...
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Panzer Dragoon Saga: Probably the most 'iconic' rare Sega game. Amazing RPG that spans 4 discs and is really unique. Well worth playing, but Euro/US prices are outrageous for the game.
Shining Force III: Scenario 2 and 3: Scenario 1 was translated and fairly easy to find, Scenario 2 and 3 are Japan only. They are simply amazing games (some of the finest I've played) and well worth the effort of finding, downloading the translation patch and emulating to play.
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Dragon Force: Saturn, Shining Force CD (SEGA CD).
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Master System:
Power Strike (possibly the fastest-paced game on the SMS; US release was mail-order only)
Power Strike II (Europe only release; different from GG version and has a cool steampunk setting)
Legend of Illusion (fourth in the Mickey Mouse series, only released in Brazil)
Ghouls 'n Ghosts (added strategic depth with shops and eased difficulty a bit with more HP)
MD/Genesis:
MUSHA (great shmup - part of the same series as the Power Strike games)
Micro Machines (great top-down racer; the cart has two extra controller ports built in for four-player)
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I hope more people will respond to this because the only game that I might consider buying so far is MUSHA. I would buy the Power Strike games, it's just that they would be hard to find. After all, those are MS games. I was hoping someone could give me a much longer list of games...
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SMS: Spellcaster, Kenseiden, Psycho Fox
Genesis: Target Earth, Star Control
Sega CD: Popful Mail
Saturn : Albert Odyssey
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I hope more people will respond to this because the only game that I might consider buying so far is MUSHA. I would buy the Power Strike games, it's just that they would be hard to find. After all, those are MS games. I was hoping someone could give me a much longer list of games...
It's kind of a vague request, when you say rare, are you looking for a certain genre or quality or just stuff that's hard to find?
You could probably add in a number of Saturn games that were released towards the end of the console's lifespan.
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It's kind of a vague request, when you say rare, are you looking for a certain genre or quality or just stuff that's hard to find?
You could probably add in a number of Saturn games that were released towards the end of the console's lifespan.
Sorry. I should have mentioned that I wanted games that most people did not know about. Not necessarily hard to find. I also should have mentioned that I wanted Genesis and Dreamcast games only.
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Laser Ghost, I played it at an Expo and it looks surprisingly fun! European only though.
Super Tempo, it's in Japanese but as a platformer it's perfectly playable.
I can't really recommend Panzer Dragoon Saga though, it's only 10 hours long at best, it's a really short RPG for its price tag. :(
Burning Rangers? That's a good game but goes for quite a lot too.
Oh....Mega Drive/Dreamcast. Can't help on Dremcast, but I guess you could get Hellfire if you're into Shmups that are CAVE like (since it's a pre-CAVE game).
Chaken: The Forever Man & Soliel as well.
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I disagree about Panzer Dragoon Saga. It's more like 17 hours, and totally worth the price if you have the money.
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I disagree about Panzer Dragoon Saga. It's more like 17 hours, and totally worth the price if you have the money.
I agree with this. I'm not terribly experienced when it comes to role-playing games, so it's been a considerable journey. Even then, you'll definitely want to replay it, because there's a plethora of hidden items and objectives you will have undoubtedly missed the first time 'round. That and it is a great fucking game! Panzer Dragoon Saga may not be as lengthy as Final Fantasy VII, but it's well worth the time and effort.
As for rare Genesis/Mega Drive titles, Micro Machines (North American) isn't terribly hard to find. There were four copies at my local retro joint (eStarland) and they were going for less than $10-$15 a pop. However, trying to find the cart with additional controller ports is a bit trickier.
Another rare and pricey title is The Punisher. The Mega Drive version is very expensive, while the Genesis version is starting to rise. From what I've seen on YouTube, it's a good old-fashioned beat-'em-up. Such a shame, because Punisher's my favorite Marvel hero. WHY MUST YOU BE EXPENSIVE?!
Contra: Hard Corps and Castlevania: Bloodlines aren't terribly rare, but they can be expensive if you're looking for complete copies. I've owned them both and they are fun games. Sadly, they went up in a fire seven years ago, so....
Time Killers is an expensive and mildly rare Genesis. It was delayed several times, only to be released in limited quantities towards the end of Genny's life-span. It's a horrid port though.
Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
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Blazing Heroes for Saturn. Amazing, underrated RPG.
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Dreamcast, as far as I know:
Evolution: Far Off Promise (UK version) - Next to impossible to find
Cannon Spike
Shenmue II
Evil Twin
Street Figther III: Third Strike
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Update: Carrier
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I disagree about Panzer Dragoon Saga. It's more like 17 hours, and totally worth the price if you have the money.
I'm not knocking the game or anything, but I don't believe ANY game is worth that price, whether you are a gamer, SEGA fan or whatever. It's just way too much for what it offers.
And believe me, I am at 10 hours and near the end of the game, so it's all subjective considering how you play it. :P
However, I don't regret playing the game as it's great! Just not the expensive type of great....and I feel like that about Champagne too.
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I'm not knocking the game or anything, but I don't believe ANY game is worth that price, whether you are a gamer, SEGA fan or whatever. It's just way too much for what it offers.
And believe me, I am at 10 hours and near the end of the game, so it's all subjective considering how you play it. :P
However, I don't regret playing the game as it's great! Just not the expensive type of great....and I feel like that about Champagne too.
Ah! It's just that the way you worded it initially, saying "it's a really short RPG for its price tag", implies that there are role-playing games worth the high price for they're longer.
Yeah, it is a subjective experience. However, like a few role-playing games I've played, you kinda' have to replay it since you won't see everything the first time 'round.
I'm not a fan of champagne either, or wine. Had a friend once that blew $150 on a single bottle of wine, and I was completely stunned. Unless it was the blood of Jesus Fucking Christ, I wouldn't pay that much. LOL!
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I've played it through 4 or 5 times, and I've never played any RPG all the way through that many times. If you get through it in 10 hours, you're not taking time to explore everything.
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To be brutally honest, I wasn't impressed with PDS as much as some other Saturn games of the era (Shining Force III being my favourite RPG on the console), but I have to admit that the game did really blow me away with the art direction and sheer graphic prowess for a Saturn game. The world and story didn't wow me much with the lore, but just the unique feel and atmosphere was really great IMO.
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I've played it through 4 or 5 times, and I've never played any RPG all the way through that many times. If you get through it in 10 hours, you're not taking time to explore everything.
The game doesn't indicate that there's that many side quests. :\ (I was also stuck in a labyrinth for 3 hours, so my 10 hours can be justified at this point since I certainly explored that area unintentionally <_<)
Does it matter how long the game is when I said that the hours are subjective? Even if I played it for 30 hours and completed everything in the world, I still don't believe it's worth the money, and like I said before, no game, SEGA or otherwise, is worth that price.
I loved The Last Story, and that's probably a little bit longer than PDS, but if that game was the same price I'd have the same opinion.
It's good that you appreciate it by playing it to get your money's worth, and I appreciate it for what it is, but no one can defend the price of the game because of SEGA's silly source code mistake, even as fellow SEGA fans. :\
To be brutally honest, I wasn't impressed with PDS as much as some other Saturn games of the era (Shining Force III being my favourite RPG on the console), but I have to admit that the game did really blow me away with the art direction and sheer graphic prowess for a Saturn game. The world and story didn't wow me much with the lore, but just the unique feel and atmosphere was really great IMO.
Exactly! You share my sentiments! :D
I appreciate the game for what it is, and it certainly offers on being different to other games (and even amongst SEGA games), but the story's not great I'll be honest and the world could be a little bit more expansive. It's just a shame that the team were split up after Saga, as I'd certainly be interested in a sequel.
Not played Shining Force to give an honest opinion about it. :(
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Burning Rangers for sure, very unique game that will likely never see a rerelease.
I was lucky enough to buy it new shortly after the Saturn was discontinued and the Dreamcast was on the way. Forgot how much it cost, but $40 sounds about right. Now the damn thing is $100+
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Panzer Dragoon Saga- Saturn
Deep Fear pal- saturn
Dragon Riders- Dreamcast
Evil twin- Dreamcast
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Rhythm Thief for the Nintendo 3DS physical is starting to become tricky to find. It doesn't help that SEGA has been shying away from physical releases given their new structure last year.
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Burning Rangers for sure, very unique game that will likely never see a rerelease.
I was lucky enough to buy it new shortly after the Saturn was discontinued and the Dreamcast was on the way. Forgot how much it cost, but $40 sounds about right. Now the damn thing is $100+
I found one for about $30. I guess I could try this game. I could still use a few more games for the Dreamcast and Genesis though. I need ones that are more rare because I'm trying to find some that my friends have probably never heard of that would be fun to play, so hopefully most of these games can be multiplayer as we'll...
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I found one for about $30. I guess I could try this game. I could still use a few more games for the Dreamcast and Genesis though. I need ones that are more rare because I'm trying to find some that my friends have probably never heard of that would be fun to play, so hopefully most of these games can be multiplayer as we'll...
It's a really unique game. Gameplay is fun, graphics impressive (especially the lighting effects), and the music just plain awesome. Controls feel a tad clunky, but not much worse than most 3D action games from that era. If Sega ever unshackled Sonic Team from Sonic for a while, a new Burning Rangers game would be near the top of my most desired list.
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It's a really unique game. Gameplay is fun, graphics impressive (especially the lighting effects), and the music just plain awesome. Controls feel a tad clunky, but not much worse than most 3D action games from that era. If Sega ever unshackled Sonic Team from Sonic for a while, a new Burning Rangers game would be near the top of my most desired list.
I give kudos to you, sir. :D
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I give kudos to you, sir. :D
It's one of those games that makes you nostalgic for the Sega of yesterday. The Sega that was once a wellspring of limitless talent and creativity. The Sega that wasn't afraid to take chances.
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It's a really unique game. Gameplay is fun, graphics impressive (especially the lighting effects), and the music just plain awesome. Controls feel a tad clunky, but not much worse than most 3D action games from that era. If Sega ever unshackled Sonic Team from Sonic for a while, a new Burning Rangers game would be near the top of my most desired list.
I would also like to see Sega focused on other games. They have made too many Sonic games. I think trying to release a game that hardly anyone remembers would be a little bit risky. It might still work itself out, if they can make the game far better than the original. I probably shouldn't have an opinion on that, unless I played the game and made a new thread about it.
For the person who posted about Panzer Dragoon, I have a question. Is it really rare? I thought Sega later released it on Xbox...
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Panzer Dragoon Orta was released on XBOX, and you can unlock the PC version of PD1 within the game. I think people were talking about Panzer Dragoon Saga.
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I would also like to see Sega focused on other games. They have made too many Sonic games. I think trying to release a game that hardly anyone remembers would be a little bit risky. It might still work itself out, if they can make the game far better than the original. I probably shouldn't have an opinion on that, unless I played the game and made a new thread about it.
For the person who posted about Panzer Dragoon, I have a question. Is it really rare? I thought Sega later released it on Xbox...
I'll be posting a Burning Rangers playthrough next week on my YT channel. I can't pull off an S-rank run (requirements are extremely lofty), but I've got an A-rank run just about wrapped up. Should be a good reference material if you're having a hard time with the game.
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I'll be posting a Burning Rangers playthrough next week on my YT channel. I can't pull off an S-rank run (requirements are extremely lofty), but I've got an A-rank run just about wrapped up. Should be a good reference material if you're having a hard time with the game.
Ok. Can you P.M. your channel to me? I don't think segabits would like it too much, if YouTube channels start to float around on threads like this. By the way, thanks for all the information so far. I think I might try this game and maybe a few others on this list.
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We don't have any problems with people sharing their channels, in fact Saturn Memories has his own thread where all his videos are posted. No need to sneak around in private messages.
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There's a bunch more that aren't in that thread too. Mostly Model 2 games like House of the Dead, Rail Chase 2, and Sega Ski Super G. Check the videos tab on my channel page to see everything.
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Lol. I am not sure what was I thinking. I now realize that you had your channel on your footnote the entire time. Maybe it's because I am new to forum websites, I guess. It seems that I still should have known that it was ok to post your channel on this website, if it was right there. Anyway, the game itself kind of interests me for two reasons. One is that it looks as if it could have had more of a chance in becoming a more popular game. I guess it was just not as popular because it was released late on the Dreamcast. The other reason is that it kind of reminds me of the game Blue Stinger. This is most likely due to the fact of its overall futuristic Dreamcast feel.
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Lol. I am not sure what was I thinking. I now realize that you had your channel on your footnote the entire time. Maybe it's because I am new to forum websites, I guess. It seems that I still should have known that it was ok to post your channel on this website, if it was right there. Anyway, the game itself kind of interests me for two reasons. One is that it looks as if it could have had more of a chance in becoming a more popular game. I guess it was just not as popular because it was released late on the Dreamcast. The other reason is that it kind of reminds me of the game Blue Stinger. This is most likely due to the fact of its overall futuristic Dreamcast feel.
It's a Saturn game. :)
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It's a Saturn game. :)
Ah. I stated earlier in the thread that I did not own a Saturn. I suppose if I ever buy a Saturn, then I can get this game. Until then, I will have to stick with the other rare Sega games that I was interested in earlier in this thread. For those of you who do not know what I said earlier in the thread, I want Genesis and Dreamcast games only. Any other gaming suggestions with these two consoles would be great...
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Isn't Time stalkers a rarity?~
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Does it matter how long the game is when I said that the hours are subjective? Even if I played it for 30 hours and completed everything in the world, I still don't believe it's worth the money, and like I said before, no game, SEGA or otherwise, is worth that price.
PDS was a cheapie, payed 100 bucks for it. Besides I think your wrong money is there to burn. For the right game, 45 record or film reel...
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I was looking at old articles I wrote for The Saturn Junkyard and 4 years ago I was bitching about PDS being too expensive at $150. Now it's $300. Fuck!
I went ahead and purchased Panzer Dragoon Azel. I figure (1) it was only $28 and (2) I own a Japanese Saturn so why not.
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Get a FAQ warmed up. LOL!
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I might play along with a PDS playthrough. Watch a cutscene, get the gist of where to go, then play Azel until I get stuck or encounter another cutscene, then return to the playthrough of PDS to catch up on whats going on.
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I might play along with a PDS playthrough. Watch a cutscene, get the gist of where to go, then play Azel until I get stuck or encounter another cutscene, then return to the playthrough of PDS to catch up on whats going on.
"....good luck."
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PDS was a cheapie, payed 100 bucks for it. Besides I think your wrong money is there to burn. For the right game, 45 record or film reel...
Does PDS stand for Panzer Dragoon Saga? If it does, then I doubt I will be able to play it. Seems as if everyone wants to mention Saturn games. I guess I should just buy a Saturn.
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Saturn probably has the most quality rare titles, SEGA CD probably comes in second but it's far easier to play emulated SEGA CD games.
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Saturn probably has the most quality rare titles, SEGA CD probably comes in second but it's far easier to play emulated SEGA CD games.
SSF has been in development for around 10 years now, and since multi-core CPUs started becoming common in PCs, Saturn emulation is now pretty damn great.
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I might play along with a PDS playthrough. Watch a cutscene, get the gist of where to go, then play Azel until I get stuck or encounter another cutscene, then return to the playthrough of PDS to catch up on whats going on.
Guess I should send you that copy soon?
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As mentioned Saturn has a slew of 'rare' titles because it was a flop in the west but big in Japan. It meant a lot of limited production games and under-appreciated titles that fell through the cracks. It helped that it was a powerhouse at the time and got a lot of really top quality arcade ports.