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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Happy Cat on July 19, 2014, 09:54:48 am
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Sonic Adventure 3 reveal at TGS maybe? Would completely screw over Sonic Boom, but when is the last time SEGA Japan cared about screwing over the west? They do it all the time.
Source: https://twitter.com/SSF1991/status/490463552273383424
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"Performed by: Sonic the Hedgehog"
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Pre-order now if you are that crazy
http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/dss/wwce-31338.html
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Wait, was there a time when a Sonic game was revealed around the same time as a CD like this?
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I think this will be like the time "Sonic Heroes", "Sonic CD", "Sonic Heroes", etc soundtracks was re-released for Sonic's 20th anniversary.
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But those re-released BSO for Sonic's 20th anniversary includes both Adventure titles.:
http://vgmdb.net/album/23920
http://vgmdb.net/album/25235
This is a new CD and I think "something" is in there :/
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I thought Sega already made Sonic Adventure 3. I mean, they stopped at two, then they started making games that were very similar about Sonic that some would consider a third installment. If they do make a title with a "3", then I'm sure 3raser will be all excited about Shenmue again.
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I thought Sega already made Sonic Adventure 3. I mean, they stopped at two, then they started making games that were very similar about Sonic that some would consider a third installment. If they do make a title with a "3", then I'm sure 3raser will be all excited about Shenmue again.
Sonic 06 was once went under the development name of Sonic Adv 3 . Anway great news about the music CD - Sonic Adv is one of the best music scores SEGA ever produce . Hope SEGA do make a Sonic Adv 3 - I simply loved the adventure aspect of Sonic Adv , that was sorely missing from SA II
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Wasn't Sonic Unleashed called Sonic World Adventure or something in Japan?
Also, are people really thinking a fucking audio CD means a new game is in development? Really? Have we gotten to that stage as Sega fans where we are so desperate for any good news (In as much as a Sonic game can be considered 'good news')?
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As bad a reception that Sonic 4 got, I understand the numbering. It was the first fully 2D Sonic game on a console since Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
But the need for a Sonic Adventure 3? I don't get it at all. We've had numerous 3D Sonic titles since SA2 and we are well past that era. Would a Sonic Adventure 3 continue the plot? Nope! Heroes and Shadow did that. Would a Sonic Adventure 3 see the return of the Adventure gameplay style? Again, Sonic '06 and Unleashed had just about every element found in the first two Adventure games.
The only thing I can think of is the title itself, which is a pretty stupid thing to be clamoring for, or the return of the Chao Garden. Thing is, Chao were an extension of NiGHTS A-Life and were created as a way to take advantage of the Dreamcast's features. After the Dreamcast, there is really no point in having A-life returning to the series. Sonic Team went as far as they needed to in experimenting with A-life, and they really shouldn't be putting an emphasis on it now when the real focus should be perfecting Sonic gameplay.
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the need for a Sonic Adventure 3? I don't get it at all. We've had numerous 3D Sonic titles since SA2 and we are well past that era. Would a Sonic Adventure 3 continue the plot? Nope! Heroes and Shadow did that. Would a Sonic Adventure 3 see the return of the Adventure gameplay style? Again, Sonic '06 and Unleashed had just about every element found in the first two Adventure games
SA II totally ditched the SA hub system , and Sonic 06 and Unleashed didn't have the hub system that was even comparable. Totally lacking the exploration and the joys of catching a train to new words , solving puzzles and picking up new power ups.
I have high hopes for the next Sonic just hope SEGA are leading onthe next gen
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I told you guys it would just be a special remake like the 20th anniversary CDs. Here: http://www.tssznews.com/2014/07/21/sonic-adventure-anniversary-album-planned-for-fall/
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Now I just read the SEGAbits article for this. wow I feel embarrassed now. But I'm glad nonetheless.
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Also, are people really thinking a fucking audio CD means a new game is in development? Really? Have we gotten to that stage as Sega fans where we are so desperate for any good news (In as much as a Sonic game can be considered 'good news')?
You don't understand Mang, back in 1998 SEGA produced something so great that it left a lasting impression on all of us. Then in 2001 they delivered an even better product... But alas the following years were never as good as the first two.
Now we all hope against hope that SEGA will once again surprise us with a new adventure. That's right, the time is now. It just has to be, they're teasing us too much for it not to be.
I can't wait for Chao Adventure 3, can you?
Oh... And some shitty Sonic game attached to it too I guess.
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You don't understand Mang, back in 1998 SEGA produced something so great that it left a lasting impression on all of us. Then in 2001 they delivered an even better product... But alas the following years were never as good as the first two.
Now we all hope against hope that SEGA will once again surprise us with a new adventure. That's right, the time is now. It just has to be, they're teasing us too much for it not to be.
I can't wait for Chao Adventure 3, can you?
Oh... And some shitty Sonic game attached to it too I guess.
I believe in CA3.
It's going to be a launch title for the Sega Renegade, along with Shinmoo 3. The console will be the first 512bit console.
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What about the Ringedge that the Saved by the Bell cast teased??
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What about the Ringedge that the Saved by the Bell cast teased??
*rolls eyes*
That's just a TV show, Barry...
;)
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SA music is not all of that. They have some good themes, but otherwise it is mildly decent.
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SA music is not all of that. They have some good themes, but otherwise it is mildly decent.
dis nigga srs ??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRhmxkx1ZcE
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SA music is not all of that. They have some good themes, but otherwise it is mildly decent.
SA music score is one of the best ever to ever have come out of SEGA imo, It must have cost SEGA a fortune to produce too . Here's some of my fav tracks
http://youtu.be/eH0FMvYAIAo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIaO089hBMs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxpUkja0j0s
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I know what they are going to do. It will be an instrumental remix, rather then just releasing the same music all over again. I could only assume this.
Pumpkin Hill is more rap beat type music. Of course Knuckles stages, which I never really got at all.
I never really liked Pumpkin hill really. I am confounded to why their is even a Pumpkin Hill stage??? It makes no sense at all???? "The fighting freak Knuckles blah blah blah blah. The great emeralds power give me power to see". I am sure that nobody was messed up by that.... Every single stage was the same exact thing. Even Rouge had a slightly better theme, but more or less the same.
:: Knuckles Ranting ::
I am tired of the constant hinting and commercialization of knuckles. First it was "Mon" inside of the Sonic and Knuckles guide book. Then he had a type of cowboy hat on ( which is common in Jamaica to see, or that people of that origin will wear those hats ). Then they just decided to drop R&B music on him. Gave him commercial crap from a goofy looking shirt, to sun glasses, to gold knuckles ( or whatever ). Finally they took away his ability to fly, made him super tall, and have a build of the hulk. I wish they stuck with the paradise island theme, instead of all of these themes. Even look at his friends.
:: End of Knuckles Ranting ::
Mystic Ruins is just free to use music ( music you find on installation CD's from the Win95 era ) that was remixed made to sound normal and nature. Same with MarioRPG as well. Free to use music remixed.
Speed Highway, is more or less the same thing as the above. It had a usage but nothing ever really original. I could kill for starlite zone remix but "up and down all around" along with "right" and "titch". The music is made specifically for the movement.
Speaking of which, nobody really notices but Robo-Sonic is also trying to crash into you and will attempt to attack you in the stage. He looks like a rocket that is flying all over the place. I see him the Tails version of the stage?????
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^Knuckles is black, everyone knows this.
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He is not black, they are using a bunch of commercialzations and stereotypes. Thus setting the theme for Knuckles.
First they made it seem. He lives on an island like Sonic. I mean the game used themes but it was never so commercial the way it was in Adventure.
He is not black at all. He is suppose to be a cousin of Sonic ( As Enchida are cousins of Hedgehogs ). SEGA took the islander image, and decided to roll with it.
They destroyed the character. In fact that proves how weak Sonic games are.
Okay......If they had kept themes to the level of Sonic-R. I would have no problems. Sonic-R is as good as Sonic music will ever be in the 3d universe so far. If you could find one game that is better then Sonic-R in terms of music, please show me.
I am just guessing some idiot in the US most likely said. Hey lets make knuckles have a Reggae themed background. Then some moron in JP said "Hey lets just make him out to be a typical Sexualized Americanized ( what is hip ) young person".
He lives on a flying island that flops back and forth between dimensions. High above the atmosphere. He does not live in the streets, and goes clubbing.
The first SA game was pretty decent. I will admit, because they kinda BALANCED IT OUT. The second game was failure, not because of the stage designs but because every second their is a theme coming along. What was the final Boss???? A giant Ghost, and I am running around with glasses, a vacation shirt, and knuckles atop my already powerful enough to stop Super Sonic Knuckles; fighting a giant ghost. Of all the bosses they could have; Knuckles fights a giant ghost.
Why not just bring back Zelda Two Wizrobes while your at it.
::GOT::
Speaking of Wizrobes. It is funny how Link becomes lighter, and brighter, and whiter with every single release. I mean why can't they just go back to Zelda 101 and bring back super badarse rugged, permiscuos ( whatever word spell ) Link, where Ganon face is barely shown. Ganon is another problem as well.
::end of GOT::
SA1 > SA2 either way no matter what.
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He is not black
But his music is all rap songs.
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It was not like before SA2. After SA2 they made everything like that. In fact this auwsomeness that knuckles was, when rap music with a "beat" was popular. The music is suppiose to be hip, cool, what is auwsome. Or serious music. Or music you would hear before gang fight ( don't even say it ), or something along those lines.
In fact this scene should clear things up on the Knuckles music bit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MppsR-i8C3s
Just like Betty, Knuckles is basically tied to his theme, that has not one thing to do with him.
Michael Jackson composed the sound track of Sonic 3 apparently, which gave Knuckles his flare. Otherwise I could only assume it was the result of the merge of forces during the time that SEGA of east was working with SEGA of west.
Again that music is more or less hip, or cool music. Basically another variant of Sonic. Where Sonic is Blue and toony, Knuckles is seriously insane and a big jerk. Sadly now he is looks like a big Jerk, and he can't fly. Kirby can't even fly anymore as well.
Okay this thing, we are talking about here started with the theme songs for the characters from SA. Then SEGA ( or whoever looney tune, most likely in Japan ( hopefully from Japan, or Europe ), said hey lets give him rap music, and a bunch of accessories. He might be just as fast as Sonic, and able to knock him out of his SS state, but we should also give him matching Knuckles, instead of his bones, which are big spikes, and a goofy shirt, and so forth. So now Knuckles is official and has always been.
Basically Arnold from "Running Man" he has everything including the goofy shirt.
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Speaking of Sonic Adventure music...
Did you guys hear about how Hunnid P has been arrested for weapon possession?
http://www.tssznews.com/2014/07/16/hunnid-p-arrested-for-weapon-possession/ (http://www.tssznews.com/2014/07/16/hunnid-p-arrested-for-weapon-possession/)
check out this song, it has knuckles in it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn8usuYcCQE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn8usuYcCQE)
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It was not like before SA2.
But it was. He was black in Sonic & Knuckles, and if you use the lock on, he's black as far back as Sonic 2 & Knuckles (1992).
You can't change your ethnicity, I'm not sure where you are going with this.
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MadeManG74 Knuckles was no way at all, when the game released in any official game at all. Show me proof of this? Knuckles a red ( a red ) Echidna ( a cousin of the Hedgehog ), and was presented as and equal to Sonic in every way. Your not really providing evidence at all.
Your just going round and round in circles.
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MadeManG74 Knuckles was no way at all, when the game released in any official game at all. Show me proof of this? Knuckles a red ( a red ) Echidna ( a cousin of the Hedgehog ), and was presented as and equal to Sonic in every way. Your not really providing evidence at all.
Your just going round and round in circles.
Good lord! Did you just imply that black people aren't the equal of hedgehogs?
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And Shadow is just fine and Dandy being black, nobody really cares about that. Then again he is an android or whatever clone.
Knuckles and Sonic are both islanders, but Knuckles comes from mystical island while Sonic comes from a paradise plauged by the yacht club, known as Robotnik. If you cared to read a book called "A small place".
Yeah I guess all hedgehogs are non-european. Which is something I have to ask. In one videogame ( not including the anime or cartoons ), have we ever seen one character that was non-european and a human being?
And Sonic 06 and Sonic Unleashed does not count either. I am just kinda realizing that. Their are no people who are non-European in the Sonicverse? Any NPC characters in Sonic Adventure?
In Phantasy Star I think I might have seen some but not in the official Sonic world????
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Dude, make sense or don't type. You can't have both.
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Shadow isn't black, the colour of his fur has nothing to do with his ethnicity...
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Shadow shares the blood of the Black Arms and Black Doom. If you ever watched the cutscenes of Shadow the Hedgehog you would know this. Not saying hes black ethnicity either, but his blood is from all things black! Juat ask Iizuka.
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Exactly Shadow is Black........So black that he is emmmmooooooooo
About early posts. How many non-Europeans ( meaning a person who can not be identified as being European AKA white with blind glasses ) have we seen in an Sonic series? Again not counting the Saturn or games before the Dreamcast.
Have you seen at least one non-European person in either SA1 or SA2 and so forth???
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Exactly Shadow is Black........So black that he is emmmmooooooooo
About early posts. How many non-Europeans ( meaning a person who can not be identified as being European AKA white with blind glasses ) have we seen in an Sonic series? Again not counting the Saturn or games before the Dreamcast.
Have you seen at least one non-European person in either SA1 or SA2 and so forth???
I think I've seen some that speak with American accents, so I don't think they are European.
Also Knuckles is African-American I believe, which is not European.
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Dude Knuckles is a fictional character. The one who is black is Shadow.
The problem is the abuse of the theme of Knuckles since SA2 started. After that Knuckles was not even Sonics equal anymore. Just another character are slowly phasing out.
He is not African anything at all. If you think that then your obviously missing a head or two. Their is no way to reslove this conversation without anybody understanding current trends of the 1980's and 1990's.
You do not really get my question or response at all. I feel like I am talking to a five year old.
WHAT THIS THREAD HAS BECOME:
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Either way; you obviously do not understand anything about current trendings. Keep in mind this person in the image is the kind of person who is writing this stuff.
Ever seen "Three Ninjas Kick Back" or "StreetFighter the movie" or "Teenage Mutant Ninja turtles". What do you think people in the east think of these things.
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I'm pretty sure we are aware that Knuckles is a fictional character! But we are discussing the ethnicity of that fictional character. For example Hiro Protagonist is a fictional character, but his ethnic background is African American and Japanese. In the same way there is evidence of Knuckles being African-American, and Shadow being Caucasian. Fur colour has nothing to do with ethnicity.
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That is not what we are going about. Somebody started talking this after my displeasure about the SA1 and SA2 music.
I just do not like how they play the lame rap music in SA2. I mean SA1 was okay; but SA2 just got sillier and sillier. It is so lame. Not bad; but lame. The music is not bad, but for the stages it feels uneeded or destroys the theme of the stage.
In terms of races, not themes, not character analysis, not what they are in general.
Knuckles = What A Japanese person thinks about Jamaican West Indian people. That is the feeling I am getting from Knuckles since SAII. The Anime and GBA did some justice on that.
However during the 1980's and early 1990's. Their was an array of Jamaican/Islander themes in ficiton. From "Day of the Dead" to "Suburban Commando" to "Cromartie High School: The movie". Even "Crash Bandicoot", and "Tazmania", and "The Tick" had such themes.
I would rather Knuckles go back to the Raggae beat instead of Street beat. It would make more logical sense. SA2 is also not one of my favorite Sonic games. I feel if they had pool their resources into the Dreamcast game alone; they would have actually make something that was decent. The game itself feels unfinished and the production was rushed.
SA1 is logical, and had that SEGA sound from the Saturn days. Where the Saturn was promoting a new image for SEGA. At least in Japan.
Writing is limited in fiction. When a person makes something; they are not thinking about logical details until the work is done. Things like this come at random. Take how the Zelda FPS Game creator made a big deal about how "African Deserts have no Cactus". When we are talking about ZELDA II, A FICTIONAL SERIES. These are the kinds of stupidity when it comes to fiction. In my opinion, the creator of the game apparently feels Zelda is DAD, and should reflect that source.
This is a big problem with material that is pumped out of the west. You and I do not have to be non-fictionally accurate about fiction.
That is it I am done. I am out of the conversation unless something else different pops up. Like I am talking to a tape recorder playing the same thing over and over again. If we went back in time and saw what exactly went down in SEGA itself. When Knuckles started saying words like "mon" in the guide book, to Knuckles being given rap music in SA2. I am sure we could answer this question.
Otherwise SEGA ruined another good thing or better yet the fans are not educated enough and ruins it for everybody else. Who am I kidding this material is made for five year olds.
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In fact I see a bigger problem with this conversation. I don't want to point this out but your leaving my no choice. MadeManG74 your from Australia. Which is locked into the Common Wealth. I really doubt you experience every single kind of culture 24/7 a day from when you were a kid in grade school equivalent. One thing I am thankful for is experiencing different cultures head on; otherwise I would think the same way as you do.
I forget who I am talking too. I don't know what expriences you had, or what you learned in this world. There is a big difference between sky scrapers to public housing, and extra brighten yellow with pearl blue waters, and undamaged soil. I am going to be like Squaresoft one day. Sell all my wordly possessions and move to some tropical island.
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Would a moderator please shut this down? This topic has more or less exhausted itself and it's becoming offensive.
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Agreed. Locky locky!