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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Mariano on September 05, 2014, 06:46:07 pm
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Hi, i hope everybody is fine.
In this new topic i would like to ask you guys which are your current favorite SEGA franchises. But the core of the topic is the next one, you can only chose between this franchises:
-Football manager
-Total war
-Sonic
-Company of heroes
-Warhammer 40000
-Hatsune miku
-Aliens games
-Mobile games (Not a franchise but you get the point XD)
As you can see i choose the most popular current brands of SEGA west, and this are the ones that i would like you to choose, only to see if there is some interested in our page to this games besides Sonic.
I personally love Sonic and some mobile games from SEGA, but i would really like to try the total war games and the hatsune miku games, and i am also interested in the new upcoming alien game.
Which are your options?
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Total War
Football Manager
Company of Heroes
Warhammer 40,000
Sonic.
I'm the walking stereotype of a fan that SOJ caters to. I apologize to everyone in advance.
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I love Warhammer, so I'm obviously excited for the next installment by Relic or a new game by Creative Assembly. Total War is a great historical franchise. I would say my favorites would be Yakuza games (not on the list but they are still being released and can be imported) and Bayonetta (still owned by SEGA even if Nintendo is publishing).
Sonic is cool, but honestly (even tho I own a SEGA site) I was never THAT into Sonic the Hedgehog. I played all the games and all that jazz but I made a SEGA site due to the fact that I thought most 'SEGA fans' only covered a couple of titles and mostly Sonic.
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nice, you own a SEGA site? which one?
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nice, you own a SEGA site? which one?
*waits for the reveal to blow Mariano's mind*
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*waits for the reveal to blow Mariano's mind*
Haha *drum roll*
Seriously though, I don't care for any of their current IPs. I'm more of an old school fan.
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nice, you own a SEGA site? which one?
The site your posting on ;P
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The site your posting on ;P
What? I thought Angel Coma owned this website?!
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None because most of those are not really Sega games. They acquired or licenses. Warhammer hasn't come out yet either and what i mean by that is a WH game actually made under Sega.
Mobile it will probably be KINGDOM CONQUEST and a Sega horror adventure game that i played a couple of times but forgot it name and can't find the file i was given.
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The site your posting on ;P
I was sure you were talking about SEGABits but the way you said it made me doubt XD.
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Total War
Yakuza
Sonic (Colours and Generations)
I've also always been a massive fan of Alien so hopefully they can start making some good Alien games.
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Total War
Yakuza
Sonic (Colours and Generations)
I've also always been a massive fan of Alien so hopefully they can start making some good Alien games.
I had heard that alien infestation is pretty good.
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None because most of those are not really Sega games. They acquired or licenses. Warhammer hasn't come out yet either and what i mean by that is a WH game actually made under Sega.
Mobile it will probably be KINGDOM CONQUEST and a Sega horror adventure game that i played a couple of times but forgot it name and can't find the file i was given.
OK, but dont you have any interested in any of those franchises being SEGA games or not?.
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OK, but dont you have any interested in any of those franchises being SEGA games or not?.
I accept them as being games owned by Sega..i even argued the case for them but the reality is they aren't games that are first hand Sega. It wouldn't matter as much if SOJ were releasing titles on a boarder scale but they are not. The fact that you listed their current line up and only one or two is actually made by SOJ(and some of those aren't directly) goes to show how crap the situation is Sega wise for the west. Sega to me anyways has been about a line up of games from various sources. When one or two of those sources are missing it makes it a weak thing despite how much profit they make. And you always need a bigger representation from the main factor of today's sega being SOJ in the form of arcade and consumer titles. Like i said i understand why that isn't happening but it still doesn't change that its a large hole in their current western portfolio...
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Besides the obvious (Sonic!), I've found myself haplessly addicted to Miku's Project Diva Extend recently. I have the demo for Diva F on PS3, but I've not really played it - whereas now the upcoming 3DS game is on my to buy list (I mean, it even has Puyo Puyo built in!)
That aside, I generally stick to the classics for SEGA games. A lot of their newer IPs don't interest me as much as stuff like Space Harrier and Virtual On. I mean, they're probably amazing games, but they don't capture my interest.
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For me:
practically such as Sharky :)
plus some mobile games :'( particularly Kingdom Conquest and the Bloodshow couple of games.
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From your list, I'd go with Sonic and Miku, then mobile.
But honestly for their new school games, I'm more a fan of their one-offs. Stuff like Binary Domain, Alpha protocol, the Club, Bayonetta and Vanquish.
Sega is great at introducing new IPs only to be ignored at launch, then touted as hidden gems months down the road.
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Also, you probably should add Persona to the list of active franchises. Atm, they as much Sega as Sonic is, and the series is still being released in the west.
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BAYONETTA isn't a one off. And Atlus is a subsidiary of Sega, they still publish their own games unlike Relic and Creative Assembly. Atlus hasn't started to create content for Sega directly yet... So they 're not technically Sega or segafranchises...unless sega takes over the publishing duties overall...
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Virtua Fighter.
I would say Total War, but Rome 2 looks like an abomination of the series.
Company of Heroes is quite fun, especially since the Western Front Armies expansion. The game is in need of a shake up soon though, apparently a big patch coming soon. The game has devolved and become quite stale with few strategies being viable at the moment in multiplayer.
I would say Yakuza but Sega will never translate anything ever again because the CEO had to sell three of his kidneys to pay for Yakuza Dead Souls to be translated because they wanted the cowadoody audience but it sold two copies (one to me, and one to Aki-at).
I guess Bayonetta, even though Sega would rather not touch the series again. They did fund the first game which is phenomenal at least.
I would say Jack Lumber, but it would be a lie.
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Virtua Fighter.
I would say Total War, but Rome 2 looks like an abomination of the series.
Company of Heroes is quite fun, especially since the Western Front Armies expansion. The game is in need of a shake up soon though, apparently a big patch coming soon. The game has devolved and become quite stale with few strategies being viable at the moment in multiplayer.
I would say Yakuza but Sega will never translate anything ever again because the CEO had to sell three of his kidneys to pay for Yakuza Dead Souls to be translated because they wanted the cowadoody audience but it sold two copies (one to me, and one to Aki-at).
I guess Bayonetta, even though Sega would rather not touch the series again. They did fund the first game which is phenomenal at least.
I would say Jack Lumber, but it would be a lie.
This post made me laugh harder than it should have, especially the closing line haha.
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I would say Total War, but Rome 2 looks like an abomination of the series.
I dont know if you had play it but as far as i know ROME2 is in a much better state that when it came out, and not only that, is also much bigger with new free content and pay content. If you havent buy it yet i recommend you to do it because in a week they will release a very big expansion pack and for the owners it will be for free. Here is some information:
http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/136179-Imperator-Augustus-Faction-Map-Reveal?s=77d1d11e91d88754c7cc2a9103c8e654 (http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/136179-Imperator-Augustus-Faction-Map-Reveal?s=77d1d11e91d88754c7cc2a9103c8e654)
Company of Heroes is quite fun, especially since the Western Front Armies expansion. The game is in need of a shake up soon though, apparently a big patch coming soon. The game has devolved and become quite stale with few strategies being viable at the moment in multiplayer.
Yes they will release this:
http://blogs.companyofheroes.com/2014/08/13/relic-entertainment-announces-company-of-heroes-2-ardennes-assault/ (http://blogs.companyofheroes.com/2014/08/13/relic-entertainment-announces-company-of-heroes-2-ardennes-assault/)
Sure you already know.
I would say Jack Lumber, but it would be a lie.
It wouldnt be a lie we already know what you think about some mobile games ;)
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This post made me laugh harder than it should have, especially the closing line haha.
And what about you Aki?
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Gotta start with Bayonetta. It was the announcement of Bayonetta 2 on Wii U made me one. A fantastic franchise.
Sonic is a staple of all Sega fans, and Colours and Generations were both fantastic games.
Of the franchises that Sega brought in when they purchased the developers, Football Manager is top of the list. I've been playing it since it was Championship Manager. There is a reason noone else releases a football manager game. FM will crush you.
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I dont know if you had play it but as far as i know ROME2 is in a much better state that when it came out, and not only that, is also much bigger with new free content and pay content. If you havent buy it yet i recommend you to do it because in a week they will release a very big expansion pack and for the owners it will be for free. Here is some information:
http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/136179-Imperator-Augustus-Faction-Map-Reveal?s=77d1d11e91d88754c7cc2a9103c8e654 (http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/136179-Imperator-Augustus-Faction-Map-Reveal?s=77d1d11e91d88754c7cc2a9103c8e654)
Yes they will release this:
http://blogs.companyofheroes.com/2014/08/13/relic-entertainment-announces-company-of-heroes-2-ardennes-assault/ (http://blogs.companyofheroes.com/2014/08/13/relic-entertainment-announces-company-of-heroes-2-ardennes-assault/)
Sure you already know.
It wouldnt be a lie we already know what you think about some mobile games ;)
I was going to try and break the quote down, but it never works and I get all sorts of funny /size] things everywhere. I'll try to address though!
RE: Rome II - Every time I check various forums there is someone asked 'Is this game worth buying yet' and almost always the answer is 'no'. I read about why and it's issues with AI and combat, which is basically 90% of the game. I'll have a look again closer to the expansion, but it sounds like the game is inherently flawed and it's going to take a major overhaul to fix it. Things like the battle mechanics just sound completely wrong (infantry just blobbing up instead of formations for example) and notoriously bad AI on the map and in-game (or weird happenings like Carthage getting conquered by barbarians immediately).
Also this sounds more like a GOTY edition re-release than a proper expansion in the vein of Barbarian Invasion or Fall of the Samurai. I'll keep my eyes out though, I might pick it up on sale, cheers!
RE: CoH2 - I know about the Ardennes expansion, but that's single-player only. I have zero interest in single player for this game. There should be a patch coming before that for multiplayer though since there are numerous gameplay issues plaguing the game at the moment. Company of Call-Ins, the Red Army being made up entirely of Snipers and Guards troops, The Wermacht fielding no armour except Tiger Tanks. The Flak Halftrack exploding whenever someone sneezes in it's direction etc etc. It's a good game, but I'm taking a break for a while since it's gotten a bit stale.
RE: Jack Lumber - It's not common knowledge, but funds for translating Yakuza 5 and making Shenmue III were re-diverted into Jack Lumber and porting it to Steam. Development of a next-gen Jack Lumber trilogy was in the wings but cancelled before they could show it off to the public. The resulting financial crisis meant that Sega had to cancel their sequel to Skies of Arcadia and the new 'Untitled Yu Suzuki project'. I can't reveal my sources though. But yes, that's why I have issue with Jack Lumber.
Gotta start with Bayonetta. It was the announcement of Bayonetta 2 on Wii U made me one. A fantastic franchise.
Sonic is a staple of all Sega fans, and Colours and Generations were both fantastic games.
Of the franchises that Sega brought in when they purchased the developers, Football Manager is top of the list. I've been playing it since it was Championship Manager. There is a reason noone else releases a football manager game. FM will crush you.
I would disagree with Sonic. I think you'll find most members here are not fans of Sonic games after Mega Drive or Dreamcast at the latest. At the same time, Sonic 1-Knuckles are still some of my favourite games of all time and defined gaming for me growing up.
As far as 'current' Sonic though? Haven't enjoyed a Sonic game since Sonic Adventure 2. Actually I had some fun with Secret Rings in a 'this is kind of new and interesting' way, but otherwise I haven't been a fan at all.
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BAYONETTA isn't a one off. And Atlus is a subsidiary of Sega, they still publish their own games unlike Relic and Creative Assembly. Atlus hasn't started to create content for Sega directly yet... So they 're not technically Sega or segafranchises...unless sega takes over the publishing duties overall...
Sega will be publishing Persona Area Ultimax in EU and AUS. So by your definition this should qualify the series as a sega series. The IP is owned by Sega (regardless if it's via a subsidiary) and an entry in the series will be published by Sega.
We really should start to consider all Atlus IPs and future Atlus content as Sega now. Whether they operate independently or not, 100% owned by Sega should mean it's Sega.
Also, as it stands there is only one Bayonetta game published by Sega in the market, so I'd consider it a one-off and we all know that series was gonna die as a one-off if Platinum didn't shop it around to another publisher.
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I was going to try and break the quote down, but it never works and I get all sorts of funny /size] things everywhere. I'll try to address though!
RE: Rome II - Every time I check various forums there is someone asked 'Is this game worth buying yet' and almost always the answer is 'no'. I read about why and it's issues with AI and combat, which is basically 90% of the game. I'll have a look again closer to the expansion, but it sounds like the game is inherently flawed and it's going to take a major overhaul to fix it. Things like the battle mechanics just sound completely wrong (infantry just blobbing up instead of formations for example) and notoriously bad AI on the map and in-game (or weird happenings like Carthage getting conquered by barbarians immediately).
Also this sounds more like a GOTY edition re-release than a proper expansion in the vein of Barbarian Invasion or Fall of the Samurai. I'll keep my eyes out though, I might pick it up on sale, cheers!
RE: CoH2 - I know about the Ardennes expansion, but that's single-player only. I have zero interest in single player for this game. There should be a patch coming before that for multiplayer though since there are numerous gameplay issues plaguing the game at the moment. Company of Call-Ins, the Red Army being made up entirely of Snipers and Guards troops, The Wermacht fielding no armour except Tiger Tanks. The Flak Halftrack exploding whenever someone sneezes in it's direction etc etc. It's a good game, but I'm taking a break for a while since it's gotten a bit stale.
RE: Jack Lumber - It's not common knowledge, but funds for translating Yakuza 5 and making Shenmue III were re-diverted into Jack Lumber and porting it to Steam. Development of a next-gen Jack Lumber trilogy was in the wings but cancelled before they could show it off to the public. The resulting financial crisis meant that Sega had to cancel their sequel to Skies of Arcadia and the new 'Untitled Yu Suzuki project'. I can't reveal my sources though. But yes, that's why I have issue with Jack Lumber.
ROME2: every time somebody tell you than "X" game is not worth it you shouldnt trust that person very much because we all have a personal opinion about when a game is worth it or not.
About the rest i had read in those forums that for some people the game is in great state now and i have watch some videos and it seems very fine. But if you have confidence in your argument then be happy.
CHO2:OK
Jack lumber: I have nooooooooooooooooooooooo idea what you are talking about XD.
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Well if there is no demo or other way to play the game before buying it, I can really only go off of opinions of other players sadly. When I look at Rome 2 feedback I also look to what matters to me and what I liked from older games and wanted from newer ones. It sounds like I wouldn't be happy with it last time I checked (might have been more patches since) but also that it's an inherent problem with the game that won't be patched out but rather will take a big overhaul or expansion to fix. I will check again when the Emperor Edition or whatever it is comes out, if it's a good price I might try it out.
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I might be interested in the Project Diva series but I haven't bought one yet. Otherwise, nothing.
To be expand the net:
Valkyria Chronicles
Shinobi
I would say Skies of Arcadia, but that was basically single-entry.
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Sega will be publishing Persona Area Ultimax in EU and AUS. So by your definition this should qualify the series as a sega series. The IP is owned by Sega (regardless if it's via a subsidiary) and an entry in the series will be published by Sega.
We really should start to consider all Atlus IPs and future Atlus content as Sega now. Whether they operate independently or not, 100% owned by Sega should mean it's Sega.
Also, as it stands there is only one Bayonetta game published by Sega in the market, so I'd consider it a one-off and we all know that series was gonna die as a one-off if Platinum didn't shop it around to another publisher.
The company is owned by Sega..the IP is owned by Atlus. Big difference. And i said overall...meaning Sega is only publishing it in one market not in all markets. So no it doesn't count.
I won't count it until i see the Sega logo on start up and the Sega logo being on the package.
And Sega shopped the game around not Platinum. Without Sega there would be no BAY 2. That's a fact accept it.
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I would say Skies of Arcadia, but that was basically single-entry.
It's also twelve years old, it's hardly current.
Fuck, I feel like such an old man.
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 came out twenty two years ago.
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And what about you Aki?
It should be obvious, no?
Yakuza is my favourite active SEGA franchise and favourite video game series too but for the others? I like the Sonic series but I am not keen in it's yo-yoing tendencies. I liked Generations and thought it was the best Sonic game since Sonic Adventure but then Sonic Team goes and ruins it with Lost World.
Outside of that it's hard to mention anything else, I love me some Football Manager but I usually skip a few versions before jumping back into it.
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Of those listed, Project Diva and Sonic. I don't really care about Western Sega like the old days.
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It's also twelve years old, it's hardly current.
Fuck, I feel like such an old man.
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 came out twenty two years ago.
Dammit. I played Skies of Arcadia like two years ago and the experience is still pretty fresh.
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Actually, Shinobi hasn't had anything going on since the 3DS game and the PS2 game being put on PSN. And Valkyria Chronicles hasn't had anything going on since the VC3 (same year as Shinobi 3DS) and the mobile game. The franchises I most like are inactive.
:S