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Title: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: George on May 17, 2010, 03:49:32 am
Got yourself a new console. Well right here is where we have 'community' suggestions. Basically accessories and games that we consider 'MUST PLAY' on the console.

XBOX 360
(http://http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Xbox_360_Models.png/250px-Xbox_360_Models.png)
Recommended SKU: Elite

Accessories:
• A second controller with charge kit (http://http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Play-Charge-Black-Controller/dp/B000P5FEJC/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1274103511&sr=8-5)
• Messenger Kit (chat pad makes things so much easier, plus 1 free month gold membership)
• 12-month Gold Membership (http://http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Month-Live-Gold-Card/dp/B0029LJIFG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1274103586&sr=8-1)

Retail Games:
• Bayonetta
• Bioshock

XBLA:
• Rez HD
• Virtual-On: Oratorio Tangram
• Braid
• OutRun Online Arcade
• After Burner Climax
• Ikaruga
• Shadow Complex
• Bionic Commando: Rearmed

Playstation 3
(http://http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/PS3%26PS3slim.png/250px-PS3%26PS3slim.png)
Recommended SKU: 60gb Phat or 120gb slim

Accessories:
• Second controller (http://http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dvideogames&field-keywords=Dualshock+3+bundle&x=0&y=0) (comes packed with greatest hits game)
• Bluetooth Headset (Cheapest (http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875982206) | Official (http://http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-3-Bluetooth-Headset/dp/B001BR95PW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1274102889&sr=8-1)) [USB ones work too!]

Games:

NINTENDO
(http://http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Wii_Wiimotea.png/260px-Wii_Wiimotea.png)

Recommended SKU: Only one retail.

Accessories:

Games:

- Post some games, accessories and other stuff that you think should be posted on here -
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: fluffymoochicken on May 17, 2010, 06:48:52 am
Funny you should mention it, as I just working on an OFFICIAL top 10 list of the current best Xbox 360 games today. ^__^ Here's what I had so far:

1. Marvel vs. Capcom 2
2. Sonic Unleashed
3. Garou: Mark of the Wolves
4. Pac-Man Championship Edition
5. Bionic Commando: Re-Armed
6. Space Invaders Extreme
7. Rainbow Islands: Towering Adventure!
8. Mega Man 9

I don't know what games should round out this list yet, though I'm thinking it will be between Super Street Fighter IV, Rocket Knight, and Braid. Not sure. ^^'''

Also good are:
-Arkedo games (in the Indie section)
-Bubble Bobble Neo!
-Bust-A-Move Live
-Qix++
-Mega Man 10

Awesome looking upcoming games:
-Dust: An Elysian Tail
-Snoopy Flying Ace
-Neo Geo Battle Coliseum

I'll make posts about PS3 and the Wii later. ^__^
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: George on May 17, 2010, 07:05:37 am
Now, you brought up a good thing.

Retail Games and XBLA/PSN/Wiiware should be separated?
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: fluffymoochicken on May 17, 2010, 07:10:08 am
Maybe so, if you want to distinguish them that way. And perhaps have a special section for compilations/other, since Namco Museum Virtual Arcade and Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection are two of the best deals you can get, but they don't count as "real" games.

Edit: I forgot to mention VO:OT and Rez HD as being great titles to get. Silly me. Also, Sonic 4 is on the horizon, as well...
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: MadeManG74 on May 17, 2010, 07:45:19 am
I think Downloadable and Retail games should be seperated, mainly because it makes it easier to use the guide if they are.

Anyway, with all the members here we're gonna end up with 'Must Buy' games lists that go on for over a hundred games.  I guarantee Sanus alone will probably list about 50 games (not that it's a bad thing, but he always has huge lists of games he likes).

I'm trying to think of a way to keep the list concise, but it's not easy.
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: Barry the Nomad on May 17, 2010, 08:14:08 am
XBOX 360

Accessories:
• A second controller
• Messenger Kit (chat pad makes things so much easier, plus 1 free month gold membership)
• 12-month Gold Membership via Amazon.com (best deal I've found)

Games:

Retail:
• Bayonetta
• Virtua Fighter 5 Online
• Qubed
• Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing  
• Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection

Arcade:
• Trials HD
• Virtual-On: Oratorio Tangram
• Braid
• Portal
• OutRun Online Arcade  
• After Burner Climax
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: George on May 17, 2010, 08:38:22 am
Updated the list a bit, will be adding bits and pieces as people post their opinions and 'debate' why certain games shouldn't be on there.
Title: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: SOUP on May 17, 2010, 09:55:36 am
PS3:

Regail Games:
1. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
2. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
3. LittleBigPlanet
4. inFamous
5. Metal Gear Solid 4
6. Batman: Arkham Asylum
7. Valkyria Chronicles
8. Yakuza 3
9. Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection
10. Burnout Paradise
11. Rainbow Six: Vegas 2
12. Resident Evil 5
13. Rock Band 2

Downloadable:
1.  PixelJunk Eden
2.  PixelJunk Shooter
3.  Flower
4.  echocrhome
5.  Shatter
6.  After Burner Climax
7.  Final Fight: Double Impact
8.  Lumines Live
9.  Super Stardust HD
10. Wipeout HD


Wii:

Retail Games:
1.  Super Mario Galaxy
2.  New Super Mario Bros. Wii
3.  Super Smash Bros. Brawl
4.  NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams
5.  The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
6.  No More Heroes
7.  Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom
8.  Punch Out!!
9.  Klonoa
10. Ghost Squad
11. House of the Dead: Overkill
12. Zack and Wiki: Quest for Barbaros' Treasure
13. ExciteTruck

Downloadable:
1.  LostWinds
2.  Cave Story
3.  Sin And Punishment: Successor Of The Earth
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: George on May 17, 2010, 09:58:21 am
"12. Resident Evil 5"

Really? Game was pretty average, at best. Boring in my opinion.
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: Barry the Nomad on May 17, 2010, 10:19:41 am
I debate 'NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams'. That's more of a "must own" if you are a SEGA fan who must have every SEGA game for a system. As an all-around recommendation list, NiGHTS 2 should not be included. 'House of the Dead Overkill', however.... ;)
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: MetaKraken_PSN on May 17, 2010, 11:45:30 am
PS3, PS2 and PSP (unless the Dreamcast counts, I wish games/accessories would be available):

PS3:

Games:

*Warhawk
*Ferrari Challenge
*Midnight Club: Los Angeles
*Grand Theft Auto IV
*Just Cause 2
*Wheelman (Vin Diesel)
*inFamous
*Killzone 2
*Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
*Burnout PAradise
*Mercenary 2: World in Flames
*MotorStorm
*MotorStorm: Pacific Rift
*DiRT
*Far Cry 2
*Unreal Tournament III
*Saints Row 2

PS3 accessories:

*Bluetooth

PS3 Games (Download):

*Anarchy: Rush Hour
*Gran Turismo 5: Prologue
*Wipeout HD/Fury
*PAIN
*High Velocity Bowling

PS1 Games (Download):

*Tekken 2
*Coolboarders 2
*Ten Pin Alley
*Bloody Roar
*Spyro the Dragon
*Spyro 2: Ripto's Rage (completed)
*Wipeout
*Jet Moto 2

PSP Games:

*Gran Turismo PSP
*Wipeout Pure
*Wipeout Pulse
*Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories
*Burnout Legends

PSP Accessories:

*2 GB Memory Stick Duo

PS2 Games:

A lot (racing, GTA games, etc.)

PS2 Accessories:

*Two 8GB Memory Cards
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: Orta on May 17, 2010, 12:56:13 pm
Journey of Screams does not belong in any list. I will make a proper list of my personal recomendations when I have the time.
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: kozmo on May 17, 2010, 04:17:31 pm
If we're talking must-haves, then Metroid Prime 3 on Wii needs a mention, or, even better if you can get it, the MP Trilogy edition. The controls are the best i've ever come across in an FPS and an ideal showcase for the Wii's motion sensing. Its pretty much the only game I play on the thing.
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: Sega Uranus on May 17, 2010, 05:17:49 pm
There are a lot of games I absolutely love that I will not put on this list (Lost Odyssey is a good example!) because I am only going to add games I think everyone should own if they have the platform.

Xbox 360 games-

Retail:

Halo 3
Bayonetta
Virtua Fighter 5
Bioshock
Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts

Xbox Live Arcade:

Shadow Complex
Duke Nukem 3D
Banjo-Kazooie
Garou: Mark of the Wolves (even with it's shitty netplay)
Bionic Commando ReArmed
Virtual-On: Oratorio Tangram

Wii games-

The House of the Dead Overkill
Ghost Squad

I want to say Twilight Princess, but I just cannot... I CANNOT!

There are probably some other games I could mention, but I cannot think of anything at the moment.

As for accessories... On the 360 there is a nice bundle of the chatpad, headset, a year of Gold and a game all for like 70 USD, bad news is the game is PGR4.

Also instead of just adding everything we mention, you should wait till like three people enter in the same game before posting it, otherwise we will just have every game on the platforms on the list!
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: MadeManG74 on May 17, 2010, 05:30:58 pm
I have far too many games to list, so I'll put a few for Wii, as that has the most clear-cut 'Must Own' games for it.
* Madworld
* No More Heroes
* The House of the Dead: Overkill
* Resident Evil 4
* De Blob


As for the Messenger Kit for Xbox360, I never saw much stock in that thing, if you want to type fast messages just use Xbox.com to type and send them on your PC/Laptop. Then again that's not practical for everyone I guess. Second controller is obviously a must-have for any console though.
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: Sega Uranus on May 17, 2010, 05:41:02 pm
Quote from: "MadeManG74"
As for the Messenger Kit for Xbox360, I never saw much stock in that thing, if you want to type fast messages just use Xbox.com to type and send them on your PC/Laptop.

I use MSN on my Xbox 360 a lot. It was one of the best personal purchases I made in 2009 honestly.
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: George on May 17, 2010, 06:17:19 pm
*Ferrari Challenge
*Just Cause 2
*Wheelman (Vin Diesel)
*Mercenary 2: World in Flames
*MotorStorm
*MotorStorm: Pacific Rift
*DiRT
*Far Cry 2
*Unreal Tournament III
*Saints Row 2

- I cannot recommend these games as must buys. They are alright, most of them fun. But not most buys.
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: Barry the Nomad on May 17, 2010, 07:49:15 pm
Agreed, George. THose are the games that you buy AFTER owning all the AAA titles. Or, one or two of those are good for one strong aspect of the game while other aspects may be weak. Just Cause 2, for example. Fun free open world gameplay, but bland plot, music and characters.
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: fluffymoochicken on May 17, 2010, 09:21:01 pm
Great PS3 Titles, a list by fluffymoochicken!

Downloadable:
-Marvel vs Capcom 2
-Sonic Unleashed
-Ratchet and Clank Future: Quest for Bootay
-Bionic Commando: Rearmed
-Mega Man 9
-Mega Man 10
-Braid
-Flower
-Noby Noby Boy
-PixelJunk: Shooter
-Rocket Knight
-Rampage: World Tour
-Critter Crunch

Retail:
-Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
-Ratchet and Clank Future: A Crack in Time
-LittleBigPlanet (though what I really mean is, LBP2)
-Katamari Forever
-Yakuza 3
-3D Dot Game Heroes
-Battle Fantasia
-Super Street Fighter IV


As you can clearly see, the PS3 has a much better selection of retail games than the Xbox 360. ^__^
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: George on May 17, 2010, 11:18:58 pm
I can't comment on 3D Dot Game Heroes yet, I just ordered it on AMazon. 25 bucks with free shipping :)
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: Sega Uranus on May 18, 2010, 07:21:42 am
Shit, we forgot PC entirely, I will also add some of my other favorites (even though I said I would not!) >,<

Empire: Total War on PC
Napoleon: Total War on PC
Lost Odyssey on Xbox 360
Batman Arkham Asylum (on both HD platforms and PC)
PAIN on PSN


I disagree with Fluffy though. Mega Man 10 is easily the worst in the 'classic' series of Mega Man, 9 is really good though.

Can we add stuff like Halo Reach and Gran Turismo 5 because we know they will be some of the best games of the year? I never played them yet, but apparently Alan Wake, Red Dead Redemption, God of War III, Forza Motorsport 3, Mass Effect 2, Super Mario Galaxy 2 and Splinter Cell Conviction are some of the best games this gen. Should we add those just because?

Also, Alpha Protocol just because we all know it will be amazing.
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: George on May 18, 2010, 07:55:03 am
I have not played Splinter Cell, not too impressed with the demo. God of War III I have not picked up yet. Don't know what the community feels about RDR and Alan Wake.
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: Barry the Nomad on May 18, 2010, 08:08:43 am
Alan Wake looks to be awesome, but I'm not too into survival horror. Unless the game has more of an Ico route with the battles (dark monsters appear, kill 'em off).

I'd say we recommend games that are released and played by us, not speculated to be good. For all we know, Super Mario Galaxy 2 could be shit! ;)
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: Sega Uranus on May 18, 2010, 10:58:49 am
Quote from: "George"
I have not played Splinter Cell, not too impressed with the demo. God of War III I have not picked up yet. Don't know what the community feels about RDR and Alan Wake.

I was really surprised by SCC, I always wanted to get into the series and think this looks like the best yet, but apparently you need to play earlier titles to understand the story well. :(

RDR seems like it will be one of the best games this gen to me, and G was recommending me Alan Wake up and down all day yesterday!

Quote from: "Barry the Nomad"
I'd say we recommend games that are released and played by us, not speculated to be good. For all we know, Super Mario Galaxy 2 could be shit! ;)

Everyone I have talked to about the game says it is really very good. I think it looks great too, I like how it will have more open levels for exploring like Super Mario 64 had.
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: Monkeroony on May 18, 2010, 11:47:03 am
I can only comment from my perspective, I like games of all genres but prefer more feature rich titles to casual games.
For example, I enjoyed Sonic Unleashed but I wouldn't reccomend it to people that are not Sega fans, mainly due to the mundane werehog levels.

PS3:

inFamous
Uncharted 1 and 2
Ratchet and Clank a crack in time
Burnout paradise (multi platform I know but the superior version)
Little big planet

360:

Banjo Kazooie: nuts & bolts
Left for dead 2
Gears of war


Wii:
Hotd overkill
Madworld
Punchout
Mario galaxy
MKwii
Twilight princess
Metroid prime trilogy

360/PS3:

Batman AA
Assassin's creed 2
Bioshock
Fallout 3
Elder Scrolls 4: oblivion
BFBC2
SASAR


XBLA/PSN

Rocet Knight
Critter Crunch
Blue Toad murder files
Bionic Commando rearmed
Banjo Kazooie
Afterburner climax
Outrun online
Super stardust hd
Crash Commando

by no means comprehensive.
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: Barry the Nomad on May 18, 2010, 02:12:09 pm
Quote from: "Sega Uranus"
Everyone I have talked to about the game says it is really very good. I think it looks great too, I like how it will have more open levels for exploring like Super Mario 64 had.

I was joking about the game looking like shit. ;) However, I'd still not consider a game worthy of the OP's list until I play the game myself. I hear Uncharted 2 is good, but I cannot personally call it a "must buy" as I've never played it.
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: MadeManG74 on May 18, 2010, 05:28:05 pm
I wouldn't quite put Splinter Cell Conviction on there just yet. It's very very good, but not quite a 'must-buy' I think. As for how it compared to the rest of the series, It's up there, but hard to compare since it's radically different to the rest of the games. I think Chaos Theory is still the best of the SPlinter Cell games.

Which reminds me, should be be adding 'Games on Demand' to the buyers list? Because I nominate Chaos Theory and Jet Set Radio Future if so!

As for retail 360 games, figured I should throw in my 2cents with

Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion: After all this time, STILL one of the most impressive 360 games, and just an amazing RPG. Everyone should try it out.

Fallout 3: Basically an alternative to Oblivion. They are both pretty similar in terms of the freedom and wealth of content, I think the main determining factor would be which setting you prefer. Fantasy or Sci-Fi/Post Apocalyptic.

Bayonetta: Best game on the system IMO
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: George on May 18, 2010, 05:41:12 pm
I have not played the updated PS3 build of Bayonetta, worth putting on the PS3 list?
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: Orta on May 18, 2010, 06:08:06 pm
Red Dead Redemption seems to me like an overhyped GTA4 reskin.
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: Sega Uranus on May 18, 2010, 06:49:48 pm
Quote from: "Orta"
Red Dead Redemption seems to me like an overhyped GTA4 reskin.

That is what Fluffy said about Bayonetta.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: fluffymoochicken on May 18, 2010, 07:16:45 pm
Quote from: "Sega Uranus"
That is what Fluffy said about Bayonetta.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Have any proof to back your claim up? 'Cause if not, you'll just be considered a liar. :P
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: Sega Uranus on May 18, 2010, 07:59:40 pm
You called it a re-skinned Devil May Cry. You have said that and similar things a lot, it is not the truth though, which is obvious to people who played both.
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: fluffymoochicken on May 18, 2010, 08:15:56 pm
So before you claimed I called it a GTA4 reskin, and now you're claiming that I called it a re-skinned Devil May Cry? Which is it? And again, where's the proof?

Also, I have a feeling that I could look at any gaming website - any at all - and I'll find that they've drawn comparisons between Bayonetta and Devil May Cry before.
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: Sega Uranus on May 18, 2010, 08:34:05 pm
Quote from: "fluffymoochicken"
So before you claimed I called it a GTA4 reskin, and now you're claiming that I called it a re-skinned Devil May Cry? Which is it? And again, where's the proof?

I never meant it was a Grand Theft Auto IV re-skin, I guess my post does not look that way, but we all know you, and we all know what you have said about the game, so it should be obvious to most members. You have said it is extremely similar to Devil May Cry dozens of times, do not even try to argue with that. I think you even stated it the front page a few days ago.

Quote from: "fluffymoochicken"
Also, I have a feeling that I could look at any gaming website - any at all - and I'll find that they've drawn comparisons between Bayonetta and Devil May Cry before.

What is your point? I have seen people compare Little Big Planet's physics to Sonic the Hedgehog 2's, does not mean it is right. Nintendo Power said that, BTW  :lol:
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: fluffymoochicken on May 18, 2010, 08:43:45 pm
Quote from: "Sega Uranus"
I never meant it was a Grand Theft Auto IV re-skin, I guess my post does not look that way, but we all know you, and we all know what you have said about the game, so it should be obvious to most members. You have said it is extremely similar to Devil May Cry dozens of times, do not even try to argue with that. I think you even stated it the front page a few days ago.
Well duh, of course it's similar to the Devil May Cry games. They're both games with hack and slash action gameplay, they both have a similar Japanese gothic feel to them, and (not surprisingly) they share a history with a common director.

Quote from: "fluffymoochicken"
What is your point? I have seen people compare Little Big Planet's physics to Sonic the Hedgehog 2's, does not mean it is right. Nintendo Power said that, BTW  :lol:
If it was only one source, then it's not a common comparison. DMC to Bayonetta is a common comparison.
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: Sega Uranus on May 18, 2010, 09:01:25 pm
Quote from: "fluffymoochicken"
they both have a similar Japanese gothic feel to them

Bayonetta does not feature many gothic themes at all. Play the game, I guess?

Quote from: "fluffymoochicken"
If it was only one source, then it's not a common comparison. DMC to Bayonetta is a common comparison.

It is not the only place I have heard it actually, I was just stating such a big name could confuse things that are not similar at all.

Every action game released within the past five years has always been compared to God of War, Devil May Cry and to a lesser extent Ninja Gaiden. Bayonetta is closer to Streets of Rage than any of those titles. People are now thinking if a new Shinobi comes out, it will be like the titles I just mentioned because they think the series is a beatemup too, when the bulk of the franchise is closer to a 'run n gun' series.

My point is that the videogame press is largely a joke.
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: fluffymoochicken on May 18, 2010, 09:16:20 pm
Quote from: "Sega Uranus"
Bayonetta does not feature many gothic themes at all. Play the game, I guess?
I've seen plenty of playthroughs, screenshots, promotional materials, and in-game cinematics of it, so I believe that counts for something. Yes, it is Japanese gothic manga feel to its core. It applies to everything from the character designs, the promotional art, the cutscenes, and many of the stages.

It has a heaven and hell thematics, with a witch as the main character. It totally has a Japanese gothic manga feel to it.
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: MadeManG74 on May 18, 2010, 09:33:00 pm
Thanks for keeping it civil, but this is really veering off topic now. Either take it to PMs or make a new topic if you want to continue, but don't do it here.
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: fluffymoochicken on May 18, 2010, 09:34:42 pm
Thanks, MadeMan. I was getting bored of discussing it anyway. :P

I'll have my Wii recommendations posted up before long, I hope! ^__^
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: Orta on May 19, 2010, 05:02:54 am
There's a long way between Japanese gothic manga and environments clearly inspired by European architecture.

(http://http://i45.tinypic.com/2ly0cc4.png)
Vigrid in Bayonetta (Chapter 1)

(http://http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/04/e7/ca/parc-guell.jpg)
Parc Guell in Barcelona, Spain.

Just saying. [/offtopic]
Title: Re: SEGAbits community buying guide
Post by: George on May 19, 2010, 06:21:14 am
Updated with a few titles, only 360 atm. Anything that does not deserve to be on the list?