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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: MadeManG74 on October 27, 2014, 01:56:15 pm
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Hey guys I found this cool website that had this tip:
http://segabits.com/blog/2014/10/27/is-segas-valkyria-chronicles-heading-to-pc-a-recent-pegi-rating-says-it-is/
So yeah, whaddya think? Is Sega doing something right? Or is it going to be a port of the new Valkyria Chronicles mobile phone free to play game where you dress selvaria in increasingly risque outfits?
Will there be more games to come? Or will this be a curious one-off that Sega does and then promptly forgets about. Like Jet Set Radio.
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http://segabits.com/blog/2014/10/27/is-segas-valkyria-chronicles-heading-to-pc-a-recent-pegi-rating-says-it-is/
According to PEGI, it is:
(http://segabits.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Screen-Shot-2014-10-27-at-2.45.10-PM.png)
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Everyone here will buy it.
And then we can get Valkyria Chronicles 4, developed by The Creative Assembly as a PC exclusive.
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http://segabits.com/blog/2014/10/27/is-segas-valkyria-chronicles-heading-to-pc-a-recent-pegi-rating-says-it-is/
According to PEGI, it is:
(http://segabits.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Screen-Shot-2014-10-27-at-2.45.10-PM.png)
Yo, you found the same website? I heard the forum is cool.
But yeah, I'm still not 100% convinced, this isn't the first time something's shown up on rating's boards and not released right? Also it could be some tricky dickery by Sega, like it's actually a visual novel or a Browser game or something.
But yeah, I really would buy the game all over again, it was quite excellent. I just want to see more of this behaviour. Did Sega acquire any teams that are good at porting stuff recently? Could it be the mob that did the excellent JSR release?
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Yo, you found the same website? I heard the forum is cool.
But yeah, I'm still not 100% convinced, this isn't the first time something's shown up on rating's boards and not released right? Also it could be some tricky dickery by Sega, like it's actually a visual novel or a Browser game or something.
But yeah, I really would buy the game all over again, it was quite excellent. I just want to see more of this behaviour. Did Sega acquire any teams that are good at porting stuff recently? Could it be the mob that did the excellent JSR release?
Hardlight and Blit come in question.
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Haha I didn't see MadeManG's first post, thought Barry started this thread.
Will there be more games to come? Or will this be a curious one-off that Sega does and then promptly forgets about. Like Jet Set Radio.
Actually that wasn't a one off. People forget (And I guess that's part of the problem!) that SEGA also released Sonic Adventure 2 and NiGHTS Into Dreams soon after but I think the dismal sales of the latter game just put SEGA off the idea.
Also I don't think SEGA would apply to PEGI without having plans to release the game. It costs money for PEGI verification (I think something around £10,000.) and I don't think we should think it's going to be the browser game considering SEGA Europe is behind this who from memory hasn't got a browser based game on release yet.
So get hyped.
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Everyone look also Devil Details news (Generations, Binaty Domain). Maybe we could find a link.
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Haha I didn't see MadeManG's first post, thought Barry started this thread.
Actually that wasn't a one off. People forget (And I guess that's part of the problem!) that SEGA also released Sonic Adventure 2 and NiGHTS Into Dreams soon after but I think the dismal sales of the latter game just put SEGA off the idea.
Also I don't think SEGA would apply to PEGI without having plans to release the game. It costs money for PEGI verification (I think something around £10,000.) and I don't think we should think it's going to be the browser game considering SEGA Europe is behind this who from memory hasn't got a browser based game on release yet.
So get hyped.
All I can say is I've heard things over the past year, and it looks like it's finally happening. ;)
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The only thing i know is that if this port doesnt sell what SEGA expect then say good bye to a possible VC3 release (Or port).
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Ladies and gentlemen...START YOUR HYPE
https://twitter.com/SEGA/status/526884918677471232
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Noice!
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The born of a new "Mike Hayes" era? We will expect for that. We need to support this. Good things never last so long.
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Couldnt pick a more fitting game for pc.
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Could there be extra content that the PS3 version didn't have, or should I just try to find a copy if I don't have a good enough PC?
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My my....what do we have here?
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I am amazed about how many RT and F this have 8)
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Awesome. I seriously hope people will actually buy this game on release instead of waiting for a discount.
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Great work from Taro for producing such an effective campaign and petition, without ye we wouldn't have a second chance at Valkyria Chronicles and hopefully many more Japanese SEGA games.
Now to start the petition for Shinobi 4!
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Well, Halloween, Holidays and Christmas sales on Steam are around the corner.
Maybe they could push the other digital games in an all-included bundle (anyway, every month there is a Sega discount sales, so it doesn't change nothing).
That WW TT is really impresive. They are doing a good PR with that :)
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I have never played the first game more than 2 chapters. I actually started from valkyria chronicles 2 on the psp and i really loved it. I think the 2nd game is underrated and often dismissed cuz of the typical high school setting. But to me going back to the first game felt like 2 had really improved on the gameplay.
Though this time im gonna finish the first game. Maybe that'll even change my mind.
I think everyone can see This whole thing could have great consequences for the future :). Man the possibilities.
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Sweeeeet!
Enjoy VC, PC gamers. I'll fork over some money.
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Sega japan has a werid love hate relationship when it comes to PC. They've released many of their older games onto that platform even some arcade games that never came out on console...or continued a series that originated on console as PC exclusives. But that was always a every once in a while situation. I'm not sure how effective this campaign is to SOJ. Just because VC is coming doesn't mean the problem of many Sega console to PC games have been solved. Especially when these titles are old titles anyway. If and hopefully when they start releasing some more recent titles as well as release new titles as a joint release between PC and console (SOJ) then we will all know how succesful it is. At the moment VC coming to PC is basically another traditional pattern that SOJ has followed in releasing a console game onto the PC market way after the system it appeared on has been replaced by a new counterpart..in this case the PS4.
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I am currently experiencing orgasmic levels of joy... Hasn't happened in a little while.
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All I can say is I've heard things over the past year, and it looks like it's finally happening. ;)
Yeah I was wondering if it got cancelled or something, not the first time SEGA reconsiders something.
I hope now people realise that SEGA DO listen. This was a direct response to that PC campaign that was set up and if they can see the support in a tangible number (that petition garnered over 10,000 signatures. ) SEGA WILL act on it. That's the way you do things, not flooding their blogs with consistent chatty about sequels or degrading their work force for not listening to you, you're only just hurting your goal.
Also find it funny that all those sites that said the petition would be useless. Fact is they're not. They're only useless if you can only get a limited number of signatures. Between Dark Souls, the Digimon game on the Vita and this, I think this certainly makes petition a viable option for fans.
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Yeah I was wondering if it got cancelled or something, not the first time SEGA reconsiders something.
I hope now people realise that SEGA DO listen. This was a direct response to that PC campaign that was set up and if they can see the support in a tangible number (that petition garnered over 10,000 signatures. ) SEGA WILL act on it. That's the way you do things, not flooding their blogs with consistent chatty about sequels or degrading their work force for not listening to you, you're only just hurting your goal.
Also find it funny that all those sites that said the petition would be useless. Fact is they're not. They're only useless if you can only get a limited number of signatures. Between Dark Souls, the Digimon game on the Vita and this, I think this certainly makes petition a viable option for fans.
I think its way too soon to start shouting from the rooftops that VC being ported has anything to do with this petition. Like i said Sega has a history of porting games to PC on and off...there's nothing about this port that says anything different to what they usually do.
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I do beleive you are correct, SEGA does indeed have a history of porting games to PC every once in a while. Especially porting certain games that have been released a little while before. Never quite understood why.
Billy Hatcher and The Giant Egg was released on PC in 2006. The Gamecube version had been released 3 years prior.
Same with Viking: Battle for Asgard in 2012. The original game's release was in 2008.
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I do beleive you are correct, SEGA does indeed have a history of porting games to PC every once in a while. Especially porting certain games that have been released a little while before. Never quite understood why.
Billy Hatcher and The Giant Egg was released on PC in 2006. The Gamecube version had been released 3 years prior.
Same with Viking: Battle for Asgard in 2012. The original game's release was in 2008.
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Exactly. I think people are getting excited and thinking they made an impact when Sega from what i can see are doing something they've done for over two decades. Let's be serious if petitions really worked than SHENMUE 3 would have happend ages ago. I have to wait and see what else is being brought out. And the timing is worth noting too. When did this petition start exactly and what is the date for the port? Because it still takes a matter of time for a game to be ported..and if its ready for this year then that means it was being ported last year to the months of this year when the campaign began or got traction this year..
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The VC PC port was rumored for as long as one year ago, when did the campaign begin for PC ports?
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This is something that should have happed years ago, along with a 360 version . Move while nice seems utterly pointless , but maybe at least it gives more people a chance to play this gem of a game
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It is incredibly bizarre. Like Sega has a dart board labelled 'Non-Evil things to do this year' and then they throw and it hits a title. Then afterwards they spin a wheel and it can land on 'Sequel', 'Re-master' or 'PC Port'.
(Shenmue is a 1mmx1mm dot in the center of the board, and 'Give Yu Suzuki money' is a 1 degree slice of the spin board. In the adjoining room, in a cupboard labelled 'Spare Mugs'.)
I'm pretty excited, don't know if I'll buy it right away because I'm being a stingy shit with gaming recently, save for Bayonetta 2. If it's like under $30 I'll probably do it and re-play it because this game is baller as fuck.
Also Aki-at: Sonic Adventure 2 is on Steam? I didn't even know. NiGHTS has been on my wishlist for some time, but you know, stingy and not buying games until I clear out my Back-catalogue some more. I did get JSR on both Xbox and then PC, and I'll get NiGHTS at some point too. I also have one of their Mega Drive bundles that I bought entirely for Shinobi.
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The VC PC port was rumored for as long as one year ago, when did the campaign begin for PC ports?
Almost a year ago (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=741754).
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You can get SA2 and nearly every other Sonic title for really low prices in bundles. I bought this bundle when it dropped to $14.99: http://store.steampowered.com/sub/26498/
It's over $100 now though :P
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Almost a year ago (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=741754).
Then i can't see this petition having any influence on Sega porting VC to PC..
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Found it... Never mind, beat me to it.
The guy doing the petition is certainly passionate about this. Don't blame him, that stunt probably got him an extra signature or two.
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Then i can't see this petition having any influence on Sega porting VC to PC..
(http://i.imgur.com/xcd6AN4.jpg)
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I think the movement played a part, though I personally think a PC port of VC was in the works before the petition. Whether the petition saved the PC port from being cancelled, or moved it along faster, remains to be seen - but is a possibility.
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Most late Sega PC ports were either on a system that was easy to program in the first place(Billy hatcher on Gamecube) or where multiplatform, and used a version that was easier to program as a porting template(Viking on the 360/PS3).
VC is a PS3 only thing, and is a JRPG strategy. 2 rather imposing genres on a platform that was hated by most programmers(at first anyway) due to its over engineered complexity. VC is probably the hardest one of the listed games in the original petition to port for that reason. That is more or less why it is a surprise to most people.
But yes, as you say, it may not have been responsible for the port, but could have had a positive effect on it.
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If it has to do with the petition, then it could be that the initiative came directly from Sega West. They did after all react quickly to a Miku localization, Miku Vita port and also the Binary Domain port.
Or SoJ really is just PC happy right now. The World End Eclipse also isn't purely mobile with getting a Vita and PC version.
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If it has to do with the petition, then it could be that the initiative came directly from Sega West. They did after all react quickly to a Miku localization, Miku Vita port and also the Binary Domain port.
This would make a bit more sense, seeing as that Typing of the Dead overkill was also a western initiative. While Sega west itself didn't make the proposal or develop the game, it was they who eventually green-lit modern dream(former blitz games) to finish the build to an apparent successful launch/post launch.
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I'm not sure how much it played on SEGA's decision, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did play a part in making their decision on the main reason. I don't have the contacts like I use to confirm but I am hopeful SEGA will listen to Virtua Fighter etc if Valkyria Chronicles is successful.
Found it... Never mind, beat me to it.
The guy doing the petition is certainly passionate about this. Don't blame him, that stunt probably got him an extra signature or two.
He actually replied in this very topic haha, he's a member of our forums.
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It's strange that Sega reacts quickly to certain things like Miku and this, but as far as Yakuza and Shenmue goes on, not much is going on.
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A tweet that Kamiya retweeted: https://twitter.com/Invertednormals/status/526995873473892352?s=09
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I see this as the last beacon of old SEGA PC ports. No idea how Viking or Binary Domain did, but if this tanks hard say no-no to Vanquish, Bayonetta and of course Daisy Fuentes Pilates.
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Binary didn't do so hot last time I checked, though Viking might've done decent.
Typing of the dead overkill was reportedly beyond Sega's initial expectations, and that game launched with basically no fanfare.
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It's strange that Sega reacts quickly to certain things like Miku and this, but as far as Yakuza and Shenmue goes on, not much is going on.
It makes me feel it's more a coincidence than listening to fans. They can play up the 'We listen!' afterwards.I see this as the last beacon of old SEGA PC ports. No idea how Viking or Binary Domain did, but if this tanks hard say no-no to Vanquish, Bayonetta and of course Daisy Fuentes Pilates.
I just hope they have realistic targets for a game that came out eleven years ago and that everyone played and finished twelve times being ported to PC. At the same time, I wonder how much manpower and time went into the port, they may well need some pretty hefty numbers for them to feel this is worth their time.
I was going to say that they should release more recent games too, but then remembered Sega hasn't published many good games recently anyway.
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Exactly the issue with SEGA. Its almost like, if its digital, fuck it... just release it. There was so much potential to promote it online. SEGA has 1 million + eyes on their twitter. Should have done a Halloween giveaway and thought of smart ways to promote it to fans to pick up some attention.
Instead it sorta felt like it was pooped out. Might be mistaken, I think they did a puzzle of sorts.
I think they also need to think about pricing: 15 dollars might be the sweet spot IMO. If Square, the greediest company can do it for FFXIII, then so can SEGA.
Also really sad that Reddit doesn't give a shit about this and went bat shit insane for a shit game like FFXIII.
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It's strange that Sega reacts quickly to certain things like Miku and this, but as far as Yakuza and Shenmue goes on, not much is going on.
It's risk assessment, simple as. Yakuza has a history of failing to sell and expensive to localise. Miku is a cheap title to produce and Valkyria Chronicles sold decently in America.
Typing of the dead overkill was reportedly beyond Sega's initial expectations, and that game launched with basically no fanfare.
Best thing about the PC platform is those fine long sale legs.
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Exactly the issue with SEGA. Its almost like, if its digital, fuck it... just release it. There was so much potential to promote it online. SEGA has 1 million + eyes on their twitter. Should have done a Halloween giveaway and thought of smart ways to promote it to fans to pick up some attention.
Instead it sorta felt like it was pooped out. Might be mistaken, I think they did a puzzle of sorts.
I think they also need to think about pricing: 15 dollars might be the sweet spot IMO. If Square, the greediest company can do it for FFXIII, then so can SEGA.
Also really sad that Reddit doesn't give a shit about this and went bat shit insane for a shit game like FFXIII.
If it's $15, I'll buy it for sure. I hope they don't do something stupid like $39.99 price point then shit their pants when nobody buys it (even at 25% off on Steam Sale(TM)!)
I would really love to see them just dump more of the back catalogue onto Steam/GOG. Even if it was relatively quick and dirty Master System and Mega Drive ROM dumps for a fair price. Obviously I would like them to pull out the A-Team that did JSR for good games, but most shit I would be happy with basic ports or just re-releases of past PC games for digital platform.
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I think Sega West has a liking to Valkyria. They mentioned it in their UK Sega show that they have. Also if nothing else, Aaron Webber brought it up pretty often.
And it's a title that isn't completly with the japanese audience in mind, like subsequent Yakuza releases. Simon Jeffery mentioned in an interview a long time ago, that Sega of America had some say in it (similar to Binary Domain)
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I think Viking came out only at 15 dollars, so if VC does the same, I can't see how it wouldn't do well.
Yeah Webber loves Valkyria Chronicles, I think for awhile he wanted to do a fansite for it while working at SEGA. That is dedication.
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If only we had someone with the same dedication for Yakuza. We could be peacocking some street punks right now : <
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Is it bad that i wasn't the biggest fan of Valkyria Chronicles?
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I think the movement played a part, though I personally think a PC port of VC was in the works before the petition. Whether the petition saved the PC port from being cancelled, or moved it along faster, remains to be seen - but is a possibility.
That's what people like J'arcade misses the point. Sega were probably already porting the game. Just because they acknowledged the petition didn't mean it influenced the port. Some people still think companies can churn out games at a drop of a hat. VC as i said before is follwing the same pattern of most Sega ports to PC..releasing a game from console several years after the event. So no i don't think SOJ gave a toss about this petition or that it had any bearing on their decisions.
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I'm hoping it's under $20, which is what I paid for it 4 years ago, and I still don't even own a PS3. $15 would get me there without hesitation. I would likely pay $30 though if it's somehow proven to be an amazing port... but that's unlikely. I'll be near tears just seeing the intro and title screen run on a PC. :'(
If this somehow sells well enough to justify ports of 2 & 3... I... just don't have the words. I would have a Playstation TV right now to play VC2, but the game mysteriously isn't compatible, cause of course it isn't... >:(
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Really means nothing..Since VC appears to have getting a port before this petition took steam. So no it didn't influence their decision at all.
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VC as i said before is follwing the same pattern of most Sega ports to PC..releasing a game from console several years after the event.
I just told you why it doesn't.
Most of Sega's Console ports to PC have been relatively simple games, or games that were on systems that were knowledgeable to developers, which allowed ports to be done relatively quick, and without much effort.
VC matches none of the above criteria. It is literally and probably one of the most difficult games for Sega to attempt to port.
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If this somehow sells well enough to justify ports of 2 & 3... I... just don't have the words. I would have a Playstation TV right now to play VC2, but the game mysteriously isn't compatible, cause of course it isn't... >:(
Ehhh honestly, I bought a PSP mainly to play stuff like VC2 and a few other titles, but VC2 was just... pretty meh in my opinion.
I loved VC on PS3 and was really let down by VC2. Part of it is just that the gameplay was super scaled down to fit on a handheld and it wasn't nearly as much fun. The high-school setting wasn't too bad, but also not as good as the original's premise IMO.
Lot's of schoolgirls with unfeasibly large bosoms who talk down to you and brag about being class president or whatever though.
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A tweet that Kamiya retweeted: https://twitter.com/Invertednormals/status/526995873473892352?s=09
There's also a picture recently uploaded to twitter caught with him hanging around Valve. Chances are either of Vanquish or Bayonetta at least have some productive discussions going on.
Also really sad that Reddit doesn't give a shit about this and went bat shit insane for a shit game like FFXIII.
That would be quite strange. Valkyria on PC news is seems pretty big on gaming outlets, is receiving lots of comments, and was by lightyears the most favorited/retweeted thing in Sega's recent twitter posts
Is it bad that i wasn't the biggest fan of Valkyria Chronicles?
you monster! =P
If only we had someone with the same dedication for Yakuza. We could be peacocking some street punks right now : <
There used to be a guy at Sega USA who worked mostly on Yakuza game localizations, right? He left a couple of years ago IIRC. That sucks
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Lot's of schoolgirls with unfeasibly large bosoms who talk down to you and brag about being class president or whatever though.
So it's like an average day at work? :))
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Would be kind of ironic if the PC version on Steam had Xbox 360 control support. I wanna know specs and a proper release date. Hope it comes out before X-mas 'cause I'm getting those JRPG urges again.
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Considering the heavy stylization...it probably won't need anything too beefy.
FFXIII for example only asks for a Dual core 2.0Ghz
1GB of RAM
and a Geforce 8/Radeon HD2000 or higher
Even the recommended aren't too bad.
A Core 2 quad/Phenom X4
and a 5870/460.
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Ehhh honestly, I bought a PSP mainly to play stuff like VC2 and a few other titles, but VC2 was just... pretty meh in my opinion.
I loved VC on PS3 and was really let down by VC2. Part of it is just that the gameplay was super scaled down to fit on a handheld and it wasn't nearly as much fun. The high-school setting wasn't too bad, but also not as good as the original's premise IMO.
Lot's of schoolgirls with unfeasibly large bosoms who talk down to you and brag about being class president or whatever though.
Funny how I said the exact opposite in the previous page heh. Cant argue untill i finish VC1 but I really did like 2 a lot :p. I do know VC1 had open areas while VC2 had them seperated between sectors. So yeah defenitly downscaled, but it did bring a different dimension of strategy with it
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Spoke too early about reddit, yeah the official VC thread is now more popular than the FFXIII.
*DEAL WIF IT*
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Then I guess it won't be too bad. I can run the PC version of Binary Domain at a reasonable framerate. Even stylized games like The Walking Dead, so for a 6 year old game, I'll take my chances.
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We'll get the recs eventually either way, but I'm still convinced that they won't be unreasonable.
Sega is usually pretty decent when it comes to PC ports, with few exceptions.
Speaking of which, I wonder who's porting....Sega has jumped through quite a few porters already from game to game.
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I just told you why it doesn't.
Most of Sega's Console ports to PC have been relatively simple games, or games that were on systems that were knowledgeable to developers, which allowed ports to be done relatively quick, and without much effort.
VC matches none of the above criteria. It is literally and probably one of the most difficult games for Sega to attempt to port.
Er no..PANZER DRAGOON was not a simple port....they had to build it from Scratch..if you knew the back ground of that title..and VIKING BATTLE FOR ASGARD hardly was a simple port either. VC due to the nature of the game would have started way before this petition got going so no the petition still had no bearing on whether Sega porting this title to PC.
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Everyone had to recreate games on the saturn for multi platform purposes. 3D Realms, Activision ect...were all having to host 2 different versions of the same engine. That was not over engineered, that was just stupid design on Sega's part with the saturn for Knee jerking. Pretty big difference.
Anyway...time to isolate the potential porting houses
Sega Hardlight(Viking)
Devil's Details are finally open for work again(Gens, Binary Domain)
Blit Software(Jet set Radio, Sonic CD)
Modern Dream if they are still taking work(Typing of the dead Overkill)
I get the feeling I'm missing one.
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Everyone had to recreate games on the saturn for multi platform purposes. 3D Realms, Activision ect...were all having to host 2 different versions of the same engine. That was not over engineered, that was just stupid design on Sega's part with the saturn for Knee jerking. Pretty big difference.
No shiznit..sherlock...the point is..you can't say PC ports from Sega are simple because not all of them have been. VC probably won't be a simple one..neither will VANQUISH or BAYONETTA and BAYONETTA probably won't be ported if its part of that Nintendo deal. As for you're selection...Sega Europe houses the best technical team at the moment so they would be at hand whoever gwets to port the title.I just wish this could lead to a sequel if SOJ played their cards properly..at last...
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No shiznit..sherlock...the point is..you can't say PC ports from Sega are simple because not all of them have been. VC probably won't be a simple one..neither will VANQUISH or BAYONETTA and BAYONETTA probably won't be ported if its part of that Nintendo deal. As for you're selection...Sega Europe houses the best technical team at the moment so they would be at hand whoever gwets to port the title.I just wish this could lead to a sequel if SOJ played their cards properly..at last...
I think he meant that Panzer Dragoon would be easy to put on Steam now since a PC version already exists.
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I think he meant that Panzer Dragoon would be easy to put on Steam now since a PC version already exists.
Not really. He was trying to say VC was a more complicated game to port..meaning that Sega listened to the petition which is why they are atempting it in the first place. When the fact is Sega has ported complicated ports to PC before.The game was more than likely started before the petition got started...probably some publicity stunt to get attention on the new wave of ports from Sega if you ask me.
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Something that I have noticed about some PC games ported by SEGA, if I put my PC to sleep, wake it up and boot the game, I get horrible framerate.
Just annoying, if anything.
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Now if only Sega could treat their ports like their games and add something other than Windows.....
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You mean Mac/Linux support? I know the Total War series has support for Mac.
But I agree: just depending on how much units it can sell. I think something like VC needs Windows first... and if it does well add support for other consoles.
The other thing: I hope they balance out the classes, the scouts in this game are OP'd.
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Yes.
TW has had mac support for years, it just takes the porting studio(Feral Interactive) a few years between each port, and Football manager recently got Linux support from Sports Interactive themselves. I just wish Sega would do something similar for their non native PC games/ports as well, such as the old genesis titles, dreamcast ports ect.... It's one of the biggest problems with JP games coming over right now. Everyone else is going or getting ready to go multi OS, and JP ports are windows only.
And yes, other consoles would be nice as well. As well as balanced scouts.
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Everyone had to recreate games on the saturn for multi platform purposes. 3D Realms, Activision ect...were all having to host 2 different versions of the same engine. That was not over engineered, that was just stupid design on Sega's part with the saturn for Knee jerking. Pretty big difference.
Anyway...time to isolate the potential porting houses
Sega Hardlight(Viking)
Devil's Details are finally open for work again(Gens, Binary Domain)
Blit Software(Jet set Radio, Sonic CD)
Modern Dream if they are still taking work(Typing of the dead Overkill)
I get the feeling I'm missing one.
Actually, the Saturn's design wasn't as stupid as it seems in retrospect. Dual processors was a very familiar concept to Sega developers - theyd been doing that in the arcades for years and years. Quads are a rational geometric form to use as a 3D building block, 2D was still doing great in 1994, 3D was still very crude, and having the dev kits in assembly was the industry standard in 1994. The only reason Saturn seems like a hot mess is the Playstation outsold it 10 to 1. If Saturn had been a success, the Playstation would seem crude and infantile in retrospect. The only thing the PS actually had a leg up on is transparencies, and by 1998, Sonic Team seemed to have programmed around that, too.
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Sega developers were never a problem with the saturn. I called out 3rd parties for that reason. A large part of why the PS1 became so popular other than being cheaper, is because it was easy to develop for. Sega had terrible development tools early on in the Saturn's life, and by the time they fixed this, everyone was rushing into Sony's arms. You state correctly, that the PS1 basically drowned the Saturn, but there is a reason that the PS1 did so.
The PS1 sold more in 2 days than the Saturn did in 5 months. The Saturn is an absolutely amazing coding machine all things considered, a real hacker machine, but Sega just botched up the system with poor developer documentation, high price and the knee jerk 2 CPU decision.
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Sega developers were never a problem with the saturn. I called out 3rd parties for that reason. A large part of why the PS1 became so popular other than being cheaper, is because it was easy to develop for. Sega had terrible development tools early on in the Saturn's life, and by the time they fixed this, everyone was rushing into Sony's arms. You state correctly, that the PS1 basically drowned the Saturn, but there is a reason that the PS1 did so.
The PS1 sold more in 2 days than the Saturn did in 5 months. The Saturn is an absolutely amazing coding machine all things considered, a real hacker machine, but Sega just botched up the system with poor developer documentation, high price and the knee jerk 2 CPU decision.
Apples and oranges..Sega is the focus here because its their games that are being ported to PC not anyone else's. Like i said PD was a game that was complicated to port..and a few other big Sega games that have been ported have not been that simple to transfer over. You are corect of course when its who is put in charge of the porting..whether its a talented coding team or an experienced one..or a novice.
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Actually, the Saturn's design wasn't as stupid as it seems in retrospect. Dual processors was a very familiar concept to Sega developers - theyd been doing that in the arcades for years and years. Quads are a rational geometric form to use as a 3D building block, 2D was still doing great in 1994, 3D was still very crude, and having the dev kits in assembly was the industry standard in 1994. The only reason Saturn seems like a hot mess is the Playstation outsold it 10 to 1. If Saturn had been a success, the Playstation would seem crude and infantile in retrospect. The only thing the PS actually had a leg up on is transparencies, and by 1998, Sonic Team seemed to have programmed around that, too.
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And by 98 it was too late. But yeah Sega has always based some of their systems on their arcade tech...
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Sega developers were never a problem with the saturn. I called out 3rd parties for that reason. A large part of why the PS1 became so popular other than being cheaper, is because it was easy to develop for. Sega had terrible development tools early on in the Saturn's life, and by the time they fixed this, everyone was rushing into Sony's arms. You state correctly, that the PS1 basically drowned the Saturn, but there is a reason that the PS1 did so.
The PS1 sold more in 2 days than the Saturn did in 5 months. The Saturn is an absolutely amazing coding machine all things considered, a real hacker machine, but Sega just botched up the system with poor developer documentation, high price and the knee jerk 2 CPU decision.
In America? I should say so. The 32X, a 400 dollar price point and pissing off half the retailers will do that. The system architecture playing anything other than a small part is hyperbole. The Dreamcast was Sega bending over backward to make it easy to develop for and the PS2 was a genuine bitch, and we see how that wound up.
Sega's development tools were standard in 1994/1995. In the USA they weren't terrible - they were late to update them because of the surprise launch and corporate arrogance. They're terrible in comparison to a standard created by a rival, not in comparison to convention.
Again, assembly was industry standard. It's not like they were demanding developers learn something new, except programming for the 2nd CPU. But, if I'm not mistaken, most huckster 3rd parties ignored that aspect of the architecture anyway.
Anyway, we are sliding way off topic. Ill stop there.
I would like to see Dragon Force, Guardian Heroes, Rez and an updated Daytona.
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I was to ask the people who played the Playstation 3 version:
Is it fair to say that Valkyria Chronicles is a spiritual sucessor to Shining Force? Or rather, do the gameplay mechanics feel more line with that classic SRPG franchise?
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Naw..Sega made plenty of SRPGs in the past.
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Everyone had to recreate games on the saturn for multi platform purposes. 3D Realms, Activision ect...were all having to host 2 different versions of the same engine. That was not over engineered, that was just stupid design on Sega's part with the saturn for Knee jerking. Pretty big difference.
Anyway...time to isolate the potential porting houses
Sega Hardlight(Viking)
Devil's Details are finally open for work again(Gens, Binary Domain)
Blit Software(Jet set Radio, Sonic CD)
Modern Dream if they are still taking work(Typing of the dead Overkill)
I get the feeling I'm missing one.
Modern Dream is busy working on their own game (LA Cops), it's a very small studio so I wouldn't count on them doing the PC port. IIRC Devil's Details closed some time ago.
SEGA could also be doing the port in-house. Like the most recent ports of Sonic Adventure 2 and NiGHTS Into Dreams were done by SEGA China.
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I was to ask the people who played the Playstation 3 version:
Is it fair to say that Valkyria Chronicles is a spiritual sucessor to Shining Force? Or rather, do the gameplay mechanics feel more line with that classic SRPG franchise?
Not... really. I mean, it's an SRPG so it's got some similarities, but I wouldn't say it's very similar to Shining Force in any other way apart from having a tactical map and being turn based.
It's closer to things like X-Com, Silent Storm and Jagged Alliance if you are familiar with those games. Squad based, turn based strategy, mainly concerned with long range combat.
Even beyond those games, you can do things like manual aiming & sniping, and also command and drive tanks. You've got 'buffs' and the like through 'orders', so things like 'Take Cover!' will give you a temporary defense boost etc.
It's really quite unique feeling, George mentioned earlier it's similar to Xcom and the like, but even so it feels quite different.
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Modern Dream is busy working on their own game (LA Cops), it's a very small studio so I wouldn't count on them doing the PC port. IIRC Devil's Details closed some time ago.
Are you sure? Their site is still up, granted it hasn't been updated in forever.
And yes, you reminded me, I knew I was missing one porting house in Sega China.
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Hate to double post, but VC is up on Steam for Pre-order
http://store.steampowered.com/app/294860/
As predicted, the Requirements are really nothing to be concerned about
OS: Windows Vista/Windows 7
Processor: Intel Core2 Duo @ 2.0GHz (or equivalent)
Memory: 1 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTS 240 (or equivalent)
Hard Drive: 25 GB available space
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Ohhhh 10% off if you pre-order... nice price of $20 too.
Now to wait for it to go 75% >:D >:D >:D >:D
EDIT:
It looks like it's releasing on Remembrance Day too.
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Someone on GAF mentioned that VC apparently was on the Steam Database as far back as 7 months ago. At least in name.
https://steamdb.info/sub/41919/apps/ (https://steamdb.info/sub/41919/apps/)
EDIT: It's currently the #22 top selling game on Steam atm
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Someone on GAF mentioned that VC apparently was on the Steam Database as far back as 7 months ago. At least in name.
https://steamdb.info/sub/41919/apps/ (https://steamdb.info/sub/41919/apps/)
EDIT: It's currently the #22 top selling game on Steam atm
Not bad, especially considering the Halloween sale is on.
Gaff is also already complaining that the game isn't 1080. A fair complaint I guess. You would expect unlocked framerate and 1080p+ for PC ports.
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Just went up to #19
Edit: https://twitter.com/SEGA/status/527882885282689025
Valkyria supports 720p / 1080p, as well as higher resolutions depending on your max monitor resolution. 60FPS supported as well.
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Thank you based Sega.
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I just saw the Info in the Steam site of the game and comparing with other releases, it seems that this port was maded by the AM Ishoku Team/Sega China.
Great deals and promotion in various sites by the way. GJ, SOA.
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SEGA are pretty clever.
Releasing it on Nov 11th, the end of the First World War, on it's 100th Anniversary of when it started...I am on the side of "it was coming out anyway".
The timing is too much of a coincidence to get it out on that exact date and time.
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Still climbing at #17.
Outselling the COD:AW Digital Pro edition and Shadow of Mordor. Not in total obviously, but selling at a faster pace.
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Out at hospital but yes YES. pre ordering this when I get home, great that they included all the DLC with this one too.
Would be really interested to see the sale numbers on this one at some point.
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I really wanna pre-order but I have a netbook that isn't strong enough. :(
I wanna hear the sales to this game past December.
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#15...can we do it guys?
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Can't wait to get home and throw money at this. :afroman:
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#15...can we do it guys?
Wheres the listed ranking? Because I swear it is at #14 from the page I saw.
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Wheres the listed ranking? Because I swear it is at #14 from the page I saw.
http://store.steampowered.com/search/?filter=topsellers&os=win
It dropped down to 16 :C
But that is still amazing all things considered. considering this literally came out of nowhere.
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http://store.steampowered.com/search/?filter=topsellers&os=win (http://store.steampowered.com/search/?filter=topsellers&os=win)
It dropped down to 16 :C
But that is still amazing all things considered. considering this literally came out of nowhere.
Odd, I count 15.
It should be noted, 5 games above it are deep discounted. VC is only 10% off compared to the 55 and 75% off games.
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I derped on counting...it is 15 x.x
Also
https://twitter.com/SEGA/status/527899287293009920
remappable controls, keyboard / mouse supported, more info available as we get closer to launch.
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5 replies!?
Anyway, I pre-ordered it on Steam.
Only 10 days left.
(http://i62.tinypic.com/syl3wz.gif)
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So the good news is: "720p / 1080p, as well as higher resolutions depending on your max monitor resolution. 60FPS supported as well."
That, plus keyboard/mouse/controller support is kind of the greatest way to close out this year. 8)
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Valkyria Chronicles is 13th on Steam and 1st on Greenmangaming.
I suppose the question to ask is after all this... What happens if this game is incredibly successful?
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VF5
Vanquish
Chromehounds
ect...
There will be no game untouched that we will not shoot for.
On a more serious note, on top of more ports, I hope Sega reconsiders the franchise for future installments.
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I suppose the question to ask is after all this... What happens if this game is incredibly successful?
They finally port the game we've all been waiting for:
NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams!
:o Oh... uh, is this thing still on? No? Damn...
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On a more serious note, on top of more ports, I hope Sega reconsiders the franchise for future installments.
This was what I was really getting at haha.
But more people to enjoy the wonders of Virtua Fighter is always a plus in my books.
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In a hypothetical future revisiting, I'd really like for someone over at sega to try and take a stab at recreating LOTR: The Third Age's "Evil Mode" in a VC setting.
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I would like to see a return to the SEGA Heritage line as well as making PC ports of older console titles and Japanese exclusive titles a thing. Screw consoles, aim for Yakuza and the like to release on PC.
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Should this port be sucessful, I wish Sega would follow it up with a Skies of Arcadia: Legends port. I mean, how hard can it be?
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It does seem like Platinum is willing to port their games to PC. Kamiya and JP Kellams from Platinum have both retweeted someone saying that he'd like to see Vanquish come to PC.
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Valkyria Chronicles is 13th on Steam and 1st on Greenmangaming.
I suppose the question to ask is after all this... What happens if this game is incredibly successful?
Sega will port Yakuza: Dead Souls and spend an obscene amount of money on Bonanza Brothers: Reloaded. Both will flop and they'll dismiss PC as a money sink and a failure then go back to making skinner boxes on Mobile Phone.
For real though, VF VF VF VF VF VF VF
I wonder if they have anything else in the pipes already or if we would have a long ass wait ahead of us.
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I wonder if they have anything else in the pipes already or if we would have a long ass wait ahead of us.
From the Press Release:
In the words of series’ favorite, Aika Thompson, “we’re just getting warmed up!”
HINT HINT? o.o
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Why not..if Sega Japan bypasses console development and just release sequels or new games of certain series for PC and digital they may start to make more money on that field like Sega Europe has been doing with their PC titles. SOJ has already started it with that new RPG that is being released for PC and mobile/digital. Too bad it was too late for BINARY DOMAIN...
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Just bought the game from GMG with their 10% plus 22% off with the below code:
SLICKD-EALS22-OFFGMG
Came to $14 USD (about $16 CAD).
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and GMG gives you credit on your account if you buy games there. So theres that.
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Just bought the game from GMG with their 10% plus 22% off with the below code:
SLICKD-EALS22-OFFGMG
Came to $14 USD (about $16 CAD).
That is where I pre-ordered Valkyria Chronicles, too.
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Didn't notice you guys had that up, posted a Sale promo code for it on GMG in the Sales Section.
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It's down to 31st place on Steam.
The dream is dead.
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It was in the top 20 for most of the day yesterday. That has to count for something.
It is also the #1 top seller on GMG....which COULD have just a TINY bit to do with the drop in Steam ranking.
I demand the Dream be made alive again.
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I demand the Dream be made alive again.
Sega is rushing to cancel all their PC ports as we speak.
Also, I wonder why Sega made Yakoozer Won and Too HD Remixes on Wii-U instead of PC? A PC re-release of 1&2 with 60FPS 1080p etc etc would have been a much better option IMO. I wonder if they would re-consider if Valk does well? I bet Wii-U to PC conversion is really hard though so they probably won't bother. I would even go for an ISO dump on PC running through some emulator Sega made though.
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Sega is rushing to cancel all their PC ports as we speak.
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/3039463/platoon-o.gif)
Also, I wonder why Sega made Yakoozer Won and Too HD Remixes on Wii-U instead of PC? A PC re-release of 1&2 with 60FPS 1080p etc etc would have been a much better option IMO. I wonder if they would re-consider if Valk does well? I bet Wii-U to PC conversion is really hard though so they probably won't bother. I would even go for an ISO dump on PC running through some emulator Sega made though.
Wii U was supposedly designed similar to the 360 so it probably isn't as difficult as it could be. Especially if they can get Sega China to port it, given with what they've done with the Valk port(at least on paper).
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Also, I wonder why Sega made Yakoozer Won and Too HD Remixes on Wii-U instead of PC? A PC re-release of 1&2 with 60FPS 1080p etc etc would have been a much better option IMO. I wonder if they would re-consider if Valk does well? I bet Wii-U to PC conversion is really hard though so they probably won't bother. I would even go for an ISO dump on PC running through some emulator Sega made though.
Nintendo was probably courting SEGA and said that the Wii U would be a viable option and this was a cheap way to test the waters.
And it failed miserably and justified most of their suspicions on the platform.
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Nintendo was probably courting SEGA and said that the Wii U would be a viable option and this was a cheap way to test the waters.
And it failed miserably and justified most of their suspicions on the platform.
I hope they would consider 'Testing the waters' on PC as well. I can't imagine that it would be that expensive to port now that they blew all their money making the damn games already.
Surely PC has a more viable audience for this than Ninty.
Either way, this should probably go in the other thread where we wish-list. Barry, please ban me for going off topic. George wouldn't have the heart to do it to me.
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Stop bitching about dreams or whatever thing that come up with your mind guys...god, what a babies...
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I hope they would consider 'Testing the waters' on PC as well. I can't imagine that it would be that expensive to port now that they blew all their money making the damn games already.
Surely PC has a more viable audience for this than Ninty.
Either way, this should probably go in the other thread where we wish-list. Barry, please ban me for going off topic. George wouldn't have the heart to do it to me.
Which publisher on PC would pay money to get Yakuza off the ground for it on PC?
At least I'd imagine Yakuza was asked of by Nintendo and to make them think they were getting a good deal with signing for three Sonic titles. Nagoshi probably threw in a game that would cost little and make Iwata feel more comfortable with their arrangements.
Stop bitching about dreams or whatever thing that come up with your mind guys...god, what a babies...
The dream was always dead, infact Miyamoto traveled back intime and killed it before it could ever be born.
(We're actually joking.)
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Stop bitching about dreams or whatever thing that come up with your mind guys...god, what a babies...
I'm sorry Mariano, but I'm calling it right now!
*holds wrist of the dream, checks pulse against watch*
THE DREAM IS DEAD
(As Aki-at said, we are just joking. We have a flair for the dramatic here at SegaBits.)Which publisher on PC would pay money to get Yakuza off the ground for it on PC?
Sega? I figured they might see it as a decent money spinner if they find a good market with VC, they might be able to make some money off of old PS2/PS3 titles like Yakuza series by doing ports.
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bro, bro, bro.. The dream's been dead for years.
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I know you guys are joking...is not funny...
http://www.thepetproductguru.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/MAD-CAT.jpg
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What's this I hear about a pre-load? Never heard nothing 'bout that.
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What's this I hear about a pre-load? Never heard nothing 'bout that.
I didn't think Pre-Loads were available until the day before?
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Its available now.
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So basically, the idea of a pre-load is downloading the game early so you don't get slow download times on launch day. But still, releasing it this early and not being able to play it, it's just eating up 25 gigabytes on my disk till launch day.
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I got my copy pre-loaded. Look forward to playing it next week.
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I'll do it on Monday. So I can go nuts Tuesday afternoon.
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So basically, the idea of a pre-load is downloading the game early so you don't get slow download times on launch day.
Not so much that, more so you can play the game on release day at 12-1 am if you feel like it.
Preloading VC now, HYPE ACQUIRED.
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if you aren't convinced yet, CLASSIC GAME ROOM REVIEW:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDJ6gw_mqFI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDJ6gw_mqFI)
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Valkyria chronicles in the top 10 on steam as of a few minutes ago....
(http://postimg.org/image/q3ghe5ien/)
(http://s27.postimg.org/q3ghe5ien/VCDom.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/q3ghe5ien/)
Edit: Now at #8 spot
(http://postimg.org/image/q3ghe5ien/)
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24 hours left. I need my fix, man!
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It's number 5 on the Steam charts now, hopefully the good word of mouth will continue to give the game some great long term sales.
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Sega Japan probably coordinates the port as just "catalouge" sales. I think they will be for a big nice surprise, when it sells better than Boom and other anticipated games from them.
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Here's a decent preview of what's to come:
http://www.incgamers.com/2014/11/valkyria-chronicles-pc-port-impressions (http://www.incgamers.com/2014/11/valkyria-chronicles-pc-port-impressions)
SEGA has done a fine job on the PC port, so anybody who played this on PS3 and fancies a replay at higher frame-rates and resolutions shouldn’t hesitate.
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VC is getting outsold by Farming Simulator 2015 on Steam.
Ever wonder if we are just playing the wrong games?
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VC is getting outsold by Farming Simulator 2015 on Steam.
Ever wonder if we are just playing the wrong games?
Sega fans have wondered that for years....
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VC is getting outsold by Farming Simulator 2015 on Steam.
Ever wonder if we are just playing the wrong games?
The community and output historically for sims has been much stronger on PC than the anemic JP support, so I'm not all too surprised. Though I am slightly disappointed.
Sims are right up there with strategy as one of the few genres that will generally emphasize what many PC gamers tend to like. Making use of their control scheme to the best ability.
I certainly wasted many an hour on Microsoft Flight simulator.
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But a frigging Farming Sim? Come on....
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But a frigging Farming Sim? Come on....
I was curious as to the appeal as well, checking the steam forums it seems like it's actually won a lot of people over by being a fun and relaxing business sim style game. Same as people sinking into Theme Park or Roller Coaster Tycoon I guess.
I can definitely see a certain appeal to the game. It also has that 'hurr durr Farming Simulator so randumm XDD' that seems to be be spreading through Steam (Goat Simulator for example?)
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Goat simulator is nothing BUT hur durr random, and has no real objective. It's youtube fodder to the fullest.
GMODxInternet: The First Strike game is basically what I see it as.
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I liked Harvest Moon so I have no problem with farming simulators.
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I was under the impression that Farming Simulators sell well, especially in Germany.
And in Germany they're meant to be massive sellers if I recall correctly.
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I was under the impression that Farming Simulators sell well, especially in Germany.
And in Germany they're meant to be massive sellers if I recall correctly.
Germans love simulators
(http://i.imgur.com/D54G7bD.jpg)
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It's at 5th place on Steam for me (probably region specific):
(http://abload.de/img/vc_steam_5pesun.jpg)
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More good words:
http://www.pcgamer.com/valkyria-chronicles-pc-port-analysis-durantes-verdict/ (http://www.pcgamer.com/valkyria-chronicles-pc-port-analysis-durantes-verdict/)
The PC port of Valkyria Chronicles is a no-frills affair, but it delivers all the most essential qualities which should be expected on PC, including arbitrary resolution and framerate support. Its lack of graphics options is easily forgiven taking into account that the quality of all effects scales with resolution, and the artistic intent of its renderer which is inherently less customizable than the average photo-realistic affair. Commendably, it also performs amazingly very well even on modest hardware.
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Is the 10% off going to dissapear after it releases tomorrow?
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Is the 10% off going to dissapear after it releases tomorrow?
Yes it should.
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Was gonna wait till my next paycheck but nvm then. BOUGHT!!
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Here in the UK we've got the game at the second position. Looks like a strong week one debut is in store.
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I almost forgot my Steam password and everything. I haven't used my steam account since I used to play Counter Strike elsewhere. Good times.
It's nice to hear that most of the feedback on the technical side of the pc port is good.
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Ugh, it's 1:53am EST on 11/11/14. Steam claims:
This game will unlock in approximately 12 hours
RAGE. >:D
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10 hours left. Oh, God! Oh, God! Oh, God! I need muh fix, real bad.
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UK Steam this morning:
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Now the question is..will this be any incentive for a sequel for just PC? VC PSP titles used the CANVAS engine in its basic form...and i can't see it being more expensive to use for PC development..in many way's it's cheaper in the long run and overall.
Prehaps this is the better option for this title and others instead of going on console...
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8am EST, ~30 minutes to unpack the game. Too bad I'll be leaving for work by then.
Now the question is..will this be any incentive for a sequel for just PC?
Perhaps this is the better option for this title and others instead of going on console...
I agree that PC the best option if any, but see little reason to stop there if the PC sales are decent enough. XB1 and PS4 could/should later get a trilogy pack considering their architectures aren't too far off. X360 ports would be great as well, but probably aren't worth it this late in its lifetime (I'd still buy them).
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8am EST, ~30 minutes to unpack the game. Too bad I'll be leaving for work by then.
I agree that PC the best option if any, but see little reason to stop there if the PC sales are decent enough. XB1 and PS4 could/should later get a trilogy pack considering their architectures aren't too far off. X360 ports would be great as well, but probably aren't worth it this late in its lifetime (I'd still buy them).
Its to do with the money for the consoles...Sega doesn't pay much for PC development and licensing compared to MS Sony and Nintendo. Which is why Sega has gone all out on digital and PC compared to their console offerings. They're beginning to do PC and Digital /handheld multiformat game releases with the upcoming RPG THE WORLD END ECLIPSE.
I'm wondering if SOJ has started to push towards PC as a main central platform more after seeing the sales of PC with Sega West side of things. VC is actually SOJ most succesful re release since YAKUZA PS2 and SAMMY PACHISLOT COLLECTION in japan.
Second to FOOTBALL MANAGER 2015 a big gun in the UK which is the third biggest market in the games industry and where the bulk of Sega's western sales come from. That is nothing to look over. Be intresting to se the US performance of VC under steam..
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I played the first mission, it ran awesome at 1080p & 60fps on a Geforce GT 545, 8 GB RAM, Athlon II x2 260. I can't imagine later missions will run this smooth.
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Well this game was behind FOOTBALL MANAGER 2015 in the steam charts..and that's at number 1 and 3 in the UK PC and All format main charts. Since downloads count towards overall sales in the main Game charts..i wonder if VC might make an appearence in the UK charts next week..
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I'm still on the clock, but I am happy to learn that my laptop runs this game pretty darn smoothly.
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Currently running the game in 4k downsampled and it's still running at 60fps. The PC version is very well optimized.
Well this game was behind FOOTBALL MANAGER 2015 in the steam charts..and that's at number 1 and 3 in the UK PC and All format main charts. Since downloads count towards overall sales in the main Game charts..i wonder if VC might make an appearence in the UK charts next week..
Those charts don't take into account digital downloads as far as I know.
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Muh laptop is has an ATI Radeon HD 5000 graphics card. It runs the game pretty smoothly at 1336x768@60HZ. Sadly, chugs a little when I hook it to my 32'inch LED TV via the HMDI port and play it at 1920x1080@60hz. I'm not a fan downgrading it on that LED TV, but I guess I'm gonna have to that.
I'm playing the game with my wired Xbox 360 controller.
I'll post impressions as soon as I can. I will say this, the ability to replay missions and view custcenes from the get-go is an instant win for me.
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First time leaving the barracks the game crashes on some people, it did for me. To be on the safe side, maybe just throw a junk squad together so you aren't wasting a ton of time only to have the game crash on you when you leave the barracks. Then you can go back and make a good squad once you know the game wont crash on you. It only happens that first and one time though. It's a strange glitch.
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Figures... I get home to finally dive into some more, and there's a mandatory update. :'(
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We did it
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Its at Number 1 in the UK Steam charts too! OHH HAPPY DAY!
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Valkyria, Valkyria
May the Franchise Live Forever
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So the port of this was by this company:
http://www.littlestonesoftware.com/
Pretty ex-Devil Detail guys.
They should be getting lots more work soon I would bet!
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Currently running the game in 4k downsampled and it's still running at 60fps. The PC version is very well optimized.
Those charts don't take into account digital downloads as far as I know.
They must do since FOOTBALL MANAGER 2015 bulk is on digital now..
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We did it
(http://s2.postimg.org/zfifv6j7t/VCDOM.png)
I take that to mean its at number 1 on the US Steam charts...Sorry i can't see the pic.
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So did the game just disappear from the Steam charts completely? I don't see it at all, all of a sudden? Glitch or massive drop off?
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So did the game just disappear from the Steam charts completely? I don't see it at all, all of a sudden? Glitch or massive drop off?
Make sure you've selected PC titles to show up when you select top sellers. On mobile it automatically just shows Linux titles.
For me it's gone back down to number 2. But what a massive difference that extra 10% did for its chart position haha.
They must do since FOOTBALL MANAGER 2015 bulk is on digital now..
ChartTrack has delayed the implementation of digital sales tracking for the time being. Was suppose to roll out sometime this year originally.
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Make sure you've selected PC titles to show up when you select top sellers. On mobile it automatically just shows Linux titles.
For me it's gone back down to number 2. But what a massive difference that extra 10% did for its chart position haha.
ChartTrack has delayed the implementation of digital sales tracking for the time being. Was suppose to roll out sometime this year originally.
Intresting..wonder if its a political move since if it was included in the overall sales of the main chart certain games wouldn't necessarly have their number 1 posistion.
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I take that to mean its at number 1 on the US Steam charts...Sorry i can't see the pic.
Yes, it was a #1 on US steam chart link.
Outgrossing:
Friday Nights at Freddy's 2
Assassin's Creed Unity
and COD: Advanced warfare for a little bit.
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But does it mean anything on Steam? The sales seem to change day to day. I assumer there's a week end chart where the game holds an official position for that week based on its sales for that week?
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Considering that IIRC correctly, the top sellers charts are based on revenue earned(probably realtime updated as positions can change during a refresh). Yes. #1 seller on the world's largest DD platform? I'd call that a positive, even if for under an hour, for a game such as VC.
The changes are probably related to peak hours. Some hours have more people on, and some less. Obviously as more and more people get their hands on VC, it's position will change. A lot of people who didn't pre-order because of FFXIII, are probably buying their copies as we speak.
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Intresting..wonder if its a political move since if it was included in the overall sales of the main chart certain games wouldn't necessarly have their number 1 posistion.
Possibly but there's no doubting it would be a massive change if they included digital data. Square Enix recently came out and said a third of their core games, not mobile or browser based, came from the digital space.
Considering that IIRC correctly, the top sellers charts are based on revenue earned(probably realtime updated as positions can change during a refresh). Yes. #1 seller on the world's largest DD platform? I'd call that a positive, even if for under an hour, for a game such as VC.
The changes are probably related to peak hours. Some hours have more people on, and some less. Obviously as more and more people get their hands on VC, it's position will change. A lot of people who didn't pre-order because of FFXIII, are probably buying their copies as we speak.
Also I do believe the peak performance for concurrent players yesterday on Steam was about 5,300 people. If I recall correctly, Alien: Isolation debuted with around 8,000 / 9,000 concurrent players for it's first day so that's another extremely positive sign.
Keep in mind as well that since this is revenue based and Valkyria Chronicles is a third of the price for Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare or Assassin's Creed: Unity, it means the game is outselling those titles in a 3 to 1, fantastic achievement for a 6 year old port. Now the interesting question is what does SEGA do next, port other core SEGA titles to the PC? Try to bring the whole Valkyria Chronicles series to PC (Slightly risky considering how much of a downgrade in cast the second one is.) or give the series one more chance but this time with a PC version to go with the console version(s).
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Possibly but there's no doubting it would be a massive change if they included digital data. Square Enix recently came out and said a third of their core games, not mobile or browser based, came from the digital space.
Also I do believe the peak performance for concurrent players yesterday on Steam was about 5,300 people. If I recall correctly, Alien: Isolation debuted with around 8,000 / 9,000 concurrent players for it's first day so that's another extremely positive sign.
Keep in mind as well that since this is revenue based and Valkyria Chronicles is a third of the price for Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare or Assassin's Creed: Unity, it means the game is outselling those titles in a 3 to 1, fantastic achievement for a 6 year old port. Now the interesting question is what does SEGA do next, port other core SEGA titles to the PC? Try to bring the whole Valkyria Chronicles series to PC (Slightly risky considering how much of a downgrade in cast the second one is.) or give the series one more chance but this time with a PC version to go with the console version(s).
Well the last time a port did well in the west..it was HOTD 2+3 for Wii which more likely prompted Sega to not only let Sega West commisson OVERKILL to Headstrong games but also release other Arcade port collections on Wii as well. The problem of course was those titles didn't exactly follow the success of HOTD 2+3 on Wii.But then the Wii was a strange case to begin with since Nintendo software had 80 percent of that market.
Sega could well do another VC game just for PC but the question is would they really want this game aimed at an western audience? Especially since they want the japanese audience on board for these types of games. I think a PC option is the best bet but the reality is SOJ will probably not do anything.
As for other games..VANQUISH could do well on steam..since that had a digital download on PSN. But i can't see that getting a sequel either. I feel RESONANCE OF FATE should get a steam release as that was a game that could and should be played by more people.
Its too bad BINARY DOMAIN can't take this option as that's already been made available and didn't do that great.And that game is going for real cheap now.
If Sega were to do SHENMUE HD collection they should go the PC Steam option..as it would make more of a sales impact then it would if it was avaliable on console.
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Now the interesting question is what does SEGA do next, port other core SEGA titles to the PC? Try to bring the whole Valkyria Chronicles series to PC (Slightly risky considering how much of a downgrade in cast the second one is.) or give the series one more chance but this time with a PC version to go with the console version(s).
In a perfect world we'd have the latter.
In the real world, we'll probably get the former.
Just for reference, the Peak for VC is 5,060 players online at once. #52 on the most played list on Steam right now based on an active 2,000+ players. For Comparison, Shadow of Mordor is at #49.
VC also has more Peak players than Empire:Total war, though Empire slightly edges it out in active members atm.
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In a perfect world we'd have the latter.
In the real world, we'll probably get the former.
Just for reference, the Peak for VC is 5,060 players online at once. #52 on the most played list on Steam right now based on an active 2,000+ players. For Comparison, Shadow of Mordor is at #49.
VC also has more Peak players than Empire:Total war, though Empire slightly edges it out in active members atm.
Well i know Sega is going towards console development because of the chinese market..and with regards to VC for PC and console it could work out for them if that game was made for that market and PC in the US andover here.But not holding my breath just yet..
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http://segabits.com/blog/2014/11/12/sales-of-valkyria-chronicles-pc-port-has-blown-all-predictions-say-sega/
SEGA says Valkyria Chronicles PC port has so far blown away all predictions. Great to hear they've been very positively receiving the sales news.
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http://segabits.com/blog/2014/11/12/sales-of-valkyria-chronicles-pc-port-has-blown-all-predictions-say-sega/
SEGA says Valkyria Chronicles PC port has so far blown away all predictions. Great to hear they've been very positively receiving the sales news.
Well that's a strong indication because a press release like that would also be sanctioned by SOJ executives based here..and the feed back from SOJ must have been positive in order for the Sega west team to go ahead and make a statement.
But i want to se what happens next...VC3 costumes in another PHANTASY STAR game is all well and fine..but does this mean a full blown PC/Console sequel may happen or not.
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You guys think the same can happen to Shenmue?
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You guys think the same can happen to Shenmue?
Don't start up that hornets nest..LOL..
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http://segabits.com/blog/2014/11/12/sales-of-valkyria-chronicles-pc-port-has-blown-all-predictions-say-sega/
SEGA says Valkyria Chronicles PC port has so far blown away all predictions. Great to hear they've been very positively receiving the sales news.
You know what this means...
Yakuza: Dead Souls - PC Port in 2015.
Then it'll fail and Sega will cancel development of all PC titles.
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Bringing Classic games back is one thing (which I guess VC is now accounted too right)
But F2P is that huge thing on Steam today. PSO2 and also The World End Eclipse should be on Sega's Radar.
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.but does this mean a full blown PC/Console sequel may happen or not.
I bet the team hope so, but I doubt Sammy will green light it . The sad thing in all this, is some of us years back were calling for this game to be on the PC and now years later SEGA wakes up, we should have had a 360 version too.
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I bet the team hope so, but I doubt Sammy will green light it . The sad thing in all this, is some of us years back were calling for this game to be on the PC and now years later SEGA wakes up, we should have had a 360 version too.
I don't think so either..but since Hajime has passed the reigns to Segasammy to his son..who seems to be more intrested in Sega..who knows..maybe you will get you're dream of multi format console Sega games being released..sooner rather than never..
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Bringing Classic games back is one thing (which I guess VC is now accounted too right)
But F2P is that huge thing on Steam today. PSO2 and also The World End Eclipse should be on Sega's Radar.
Can't see them doing that with ECLIPSE...possibly PSO2.
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I don't think so either..but since Hajime has passed the reigns to Segasammy to his son..who seems to be more intrested in Sega..who knows..maybe
Well I bet the team would be up for it and ready to make a full blown sequel . But that depends on if SEGA will green light a big budget Japanese production on the next gen consoles .... I just don't see it somehow even if the PS4 and XBox One are heavily based on PC tech and so a multi format version wouldn't be much hassle at all .
That said there seems to be massive decline in Interest for a Japanese developer RPG even in Japan on the consoles , So you can see why Sammy wouldn't want to make it.
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Well I bet the team would be up for it and ready to make a full blown sequel . But that depends on if SEGA will green light a big budget Japanese production on the next gen consoles .... I just don't see it somehow even if the PS4 and XBox One are heavily based on PC tech and so a multi format version wouldn't be much hassle at all .
That said there seems to be massive decline in Interest for a Japanese developer RPG even in Japan on the consoles , So you can see why Sammy wouldn't want to make it.
Well the systems are selling in China quite ok..and Sega japan wants in on that market so that may be a way for them to start going towards it without pandering to western gamers and get a foothold(if succesful) in china by creating console content for them.
I dunno how expensive using CANVAS engine would be now. I wouldn't expect it to be too expensive as the first title was. It all depends if this news and the game's performance in the whole of this month as well as december and the holiday season..continues to be strong.
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If Sega can greenlight Shining Resonance...I really don't see the reason why VC shoudn't get another chance.
Forget a numbered title, just some subtitle, perhaps a prequel for WW1.
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If Sega can greenlight Shining Resonance...I really don't see the reason why VC shoudn't get another chance.
Forget a numbered title, just some subtitle, perhaps a prequel for WW1.
Its simple...RESONANCE is cheaper to make.
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Well the systems are selling in China quite ok..and Sega japan wants in on that market so that may be a way for them to start going towards
China is a pain of a market I would imagine . You have to submit everything for China's sick Communist government to approve and then you have to battle the Piracy market which is just massive in China and Hong Kong. I have no idea why SEGA will think Yakuza will have any chance in China given the strict rules on gambling for starters
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Its simple...RESONANCE is cheaper to make.
Making a new VC game based on the graphic and performance of the PC version, woudn't cost much more either I feel.
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China is a pain of a market I would imagine . You have to submit everything for China's sick Communist government to approve and then you have to battle the Piracy market which is just massive in China and Hong Kong. I have no idea why SEGA will think Yakuza will have any chance in China given the strict rules on gambling for starters
I know but Sega doesn't have a problem with that. Its a market that Satomi has been after for years..actually its more Satomi than SOJ that wants that market at all costs..starting with the Sega PC online enterprise that failed...the Sega amusements which didn't...and the refocused Sega Shanghai base. So its more likely to happen sooner rather than later. And of course i very much doubt if Sega will release YAKUZA down there..titles like PSO2 has been getting released there on the digital/PC front.
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It's great to hear that the game is doing well beyond expectations, though Aki-at brought up thoughts I've had for a while. Where do we go next? What does this mean for Valkyria?
Short term, I'll echo that maybe SEGA should get Platinum on the horn and get Vanquish (Bayo 1 as well?) ported, or inhouse possibly get VF5FS/Skies/other highly requested game ported. Would Resonance be as welcomed as VC was? I loved the game and put a whole bunch of hours to Platinum it, but I'm worried about the notorious difficulty curve may turn off people...then again I would totally be wrong and people would love the game for it. I would hope for them to finally pull the trigger and bring out PSO2, just throw in all the SEGA cross-overs now that VC and other franchises are making PC appearances (the only one missing would Yakuza, right?)
As for Valkyria itself, I really hope that this means the series is getting another shot, but what to do next? I'm also worried that the downgrade with 2 and even 3 may do harm than good (I still want to see the 3rd game localized). A new entry is risky, but I'm hoping the PC reception encourages them to consider it, possibly doing both a console and PC release at the same time (limited print run for the former if need be).
This can of course also apply to other IPs/Games that they're either sitting on or haven't localize (but obviously not always guarantee success). Honestly though? I want this to be the open door for getting their catalog to interested and potential audiences.
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^I don't believe Sega would need to get in touch with Platinum for any reason to port Bayo/Vanquish (or even Anarchy Reigns, which I would like to see on PC). They wouldn't be required for porting duties, nor for any licensing etc.
I think Sega needs to be careful with which title is next. VC is a real darling of the fanbase, whereas Resonance of Fate didn't seem to be half as well recieved by the fans or the media. I would think Vanquish is the most obvious choice, then maybe Virtua Fighter 5:FS (to coincide with Ver. B?), Bay and perhaps Yakuza 3/4.
Basically focus on titles that already have people campaigning about them and have been critical smash hits or have dedicated cult followings that will hype the game for them.
I was trying to figure out why exactly VC did so well when apparently NiGHTS and JSRF didn't perform nearly as well despite being wonderful ports. I think that Sega just didn't make a big deal about them ( I had to check a few times to know NiGHTS even had a PC port), whereas VC had a push by the petitioners and the like.
If it wasn't for the community and general shock of 'Holy shit they are porting this old game to PC?' Sega basically did no marketing for the title, announcing it a few weeks before the release date. I hope their next title will have more lead up and I hope they encourage the community to get behind it and make some noise. That's why I think games that have vocal fanbases will be the best option, and something that gives hope for future follow-ups (Yakuza and Virtua Fighter would be prime targets, "If we buy it on Steam, it'll get a sequel/translation/futa custom items!)
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Realistic next step: Skies of Arcadia.
Desired next step: VC 2&3 bundle, or simultaneous release so 2's sales can't again crap on 3's chances of localization.
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It's interresting that this "shock" announcement did better than a "well it's about time!" release.
Valkyria Chronicles is likely also Sega's most precious cult darling ever since...the Dreamcast, to be honest. It was at Demon Souls level of popularity.
I don't think Yakuza and Virtua Fighter have the same pull.
It was a good oppurtunity, taken by Sega at the right time. A similarly good oppurtunity was to bring Yakuza Ishin during the PS4 drought, which Sega didn't take.
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Realistic next step: Skies of Arcadia.
Desired next step: VC 2&3 bundle, or simultaneous release so 2's sales can't again crap on 3's chances of localization.
I really wouldn't care if VC2 got ported or not. I just found that game to be such a downgrade compared to VC1.
It's interresting that this "shock" announcement did better than a "well it's about time!" release.
Valkyria Chronicles is likely also Sega's most precious cult darling ever since...the Dreamcast, to be honest. It was at Demon Souls level of popularity.
I don't think Yakuza and Virtua Fighter have the same pull.
True, but is there anything that would have the same pull? Maybe Vanquish/Bayo? Although Bayo also just saw re-release on Wii-U.
I think VF could still pull some support, especially from the fighting game community, who want more games on Steam and have mad respect for VF (Even though half of them then go back to Street Fighter IV *vomits*)
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Maybe we should attempt another big push for #SEGAPCPorts now that VC came out... You know, strike while the iron is hot.
I wonder if Taro Yamada still posts here, we can organize another push...
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Yakuza could stand a chance to be honest considering when the Sony campaign started last year, it got noticed pretty well(although it seemed that nothing happened in regards to that). I think to sell it, they may need to present it better...like say if 1&2 HD got ported, you'd have to re-translate 1 because that was a rather poor translation and keep the original Japanese tracks.
^I don't believe Sega would need to get in touch with Platinum for any reason to port Bayo/Vanquish (or even Anarchy Reigns, which I would like to see on PC). They wouldn't be required for porting duties, nor for any licensing etc.
Wouldn't it be better for them if not only because the Platinum engine already being made compatible on PC but also perception-wise due to the previous handling of Bayo PS3 port? Granted, SEGA PC ports are usually well handled, but it might save costs and headaches.
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Wouldn't it be better for them if not only because the Platinum engine already being made compatible on PC but also perception-wise due to the previous handling of Bayo PS3 port? Granted, SEGA PC ports are usually well handled, but it might save costs and headaches.
Not sure what you mean about the Platinum engine, but I do think that hiring P* to port the game would be overkill. I mean, the team that did such a great job with VC had nothing to do with the original developers or Canvas Engine (Did that engine ever get used for anything else? Or was it mothballed?) As for perception, I understand that Sega had to make that port in a ridiculously short amount of time? Sega has also proven themselves capable of PC porting now, so I don't think people would judge them by a years old PS3 port.
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I was trying to figure out why exactly VC did so well when apparently NiGHTS and JSRF didn't perform nearly as well despite being wonderful ports. I think that Sega just didn't make a big deal about them ( I had to check a few times to know NiGHTS even had a PC port), whereas VC had a push by the petitioners and the like.
Jet Set Radio actually did really well, it's NiGHTS that ended up selling under expectations that killed that movement off.
I'd also honestly advise against not releasing Valkyria Chronicles 2, despite it's fault, having missing games in a series always hurt them. Despite it not being as good as the original, I still think there is an audience for it on PC but IF SEGA decides to start porting Playstation Portable games on the platform and if it is successful and they entertain the idea of translating Valkyria Chronicles 3, it opens up titles like 7th Dragon. As we've seen from the likes of XSEED and Marvelous, Playstation Portable ports can great sellers on the platform.
SEGA though must treat it as a revenue stream rather than looking at initial sales, the beauty about the PC marketplace is games tend to keep selling long after the first month, something you can rarely say about console games.
Wouldn't it be better for them if not only because the Platinum engine already being made compatible on PC but also perception-wise due to the previous handling of Bayo PS3 port? Granted, SEGA PC ports are usually well handled, but it might save costs and headaches.
Not sure what you mean about the Platinum engine, but I do think that hiring P* to port the game would be overkill. I mean, the team that did such a great job with VC had nothing to do with the original developers or Canvas Engine (Did that engine ever get used for anything else? Or was it mothballed?) As for perception, I understand that Sega had to make that port in a ridiculously short amount of time? Sega has also proven themselves capable of PC porting now, so I don't think people would judge them by a years old PS3 port.
Yeah Platinum Games was the reason that Playstation 3 port was so broken. Not to absolve SEGA of the blame but basically Platinum only had the game running for the Xbox 360 and didn't have the resources/wanted to get it out for the Playstation 3 so without SEGA's intervention there would be no Playstation 3 port.
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Not sure what you mean about the Platinum engine, but I do think that hiring P* to port the game would be overkill. I mean, the team that did such a great job with VC had nothing to do with the original developers or Canvas Engine (Did that engine ever get used for anything else? Or was it mothballed?) As for perception, I understand that Sega had to make that port in a ridiculously short amount of time? Sega has also proven themselves capable of PC porting now, so I don't think people would judge them by a years old PS3 port.
Well supposedly since they managed to put MGR:Revengeance on PC which uses the same engine as Vanquish and Bayo, the major work is already done...unless I'm perceiving that wrong. I don't necessarily recall what went down with PS3 port, other than it was outsourced to Nex Entertainment, which is obviously not the PC/Shanghai team, but people still like to point that port in Bayo discussions last I checked.
Doesn't help that Platinum themselves call the port their greatest failure, plus I think they've said they want to avoid these kinds of situations again with their titles (not sure if that even matters in this case).
Jet Set Radio actually did really well, it's NiGHTS that ended up selling under expectations that killed that movement off.
I'd also honestly advise against not releasing Valkyria Chronicles 2, despite it's fault, having missing games in a series always hurt them. Despite it not being as good as the original, I still think there is an audience for it on PC but IF SEGA decides to start porting Playstation Portable games on the platform and if it is successful and they entertain the idea of translating Valkyria Chronicles 3, it opens up titles like 7th Dragon. As we've seen from the likes of XSEED and Marvelous, Playstation Portable ports can great sellers on the platform.
SEGA though must treat it as a revenue stream rather than looking at initial sales, the beauty about the PC marketplace is games tend to keep selling long after the first month, something you can rarely say about console games.
Yeah Platinum Games was the reason that Playstation 3 port was so broken. Not to absolve SEGA of the blame but basically Platinum only had the game running for the Xbox 360 and didn't have the resources/wanted to get it out for the Playstation 3 so without SEGA's intervention there would be no Playstation 3 port.
Huh, interesting to hear that NiGHTS was the one that failed, especially since it didn't have music licensing issues that JSR had.
I may be wrong on the PSP ports not being well-received on the PC platform, but I'm just worried about what move would beneficially to the franchise. I'd like to see interest renewed and 3 localized if it all possible. Mechanically speaking, apart from a few thing such as random drops for credits, VC2 is a solid game...the story/narrative itself was a major turn-off. Though to be honest, being on the PSP platform itself didn't help when the game hit the Western market.
Can't seem to recall that part regarding the PS3 port...you know, I only often hear the Platinum side of these issues, I just don't know how much of it is true/spin/different viewpoints. Again, not to absolve SEGA from fault on their own actions, but it does add some perspective.
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It's back to No.1 on Steam again, but PES just released in UK so I don't know how long that'll last. It's No.2 on GMG finally pushed off the top spot by some shitty Final Fantasy game.
Maybe we should attempt another big push for #SEGAPCPorts now that VC came out... You know, strike while the iron is hot.
I wonder if Taro Yamada still posts here, we can organize another push...
Haven't seen him in a while... Haven't seen YOU in a while either!! Don't abandon us Riki
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Taro already posted clarifications on GAF. His sources confirm that the decision was made independent of the campaign.
My original source was mistaken, Valkyria Chronicles port's development actually began before before the #SEGAPCPorts campaign. While they were correct about Valkyria, they assumed that it was in response to the campaign. They never thought to ask if there were any other possible reasons and operated under the rather sensible notion that it would seem odd for SEGA to bring Valkyria to PC after all this time, unless to meet fan demand for such a port -- demand represented by #SEGAPCPorts.
I've since verified with multiple sources closer to the project that development did indeed begin before our campaign. Meaning we had little to no role in the decision to port Valkyria to PC. I was conflicted about discussing this publicly, mostly because I felt it may hurt morale and as such negatively impact the campaign.
Post (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=138490267&postcount=1852)
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Taro already posted clarifications on GAF. His sources confirm that the decision was made independent of the campaign.
Post (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=138490267&postcount=1852)
Which is what i told you guys a month ago....
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Maybe we should attempt another big push for #SEGAPCPorts now that VC came out... You know, strike while the iron is hot.
I wonder if Taro Yamada still posts here, we can organize another push...
Before we all get carried away maybe we should consider why VC was popular. Isn't it the type of genre that would appeal to PC gamers, strategy or tactical rpgs are still close to the tactical simulation games like COMPANY OF HEROES..TOTAL WAR and WARHAMMER and that type of titles. Of course the difference is that its a full blown RPG with heavy japan anime elements in it..and it was cheap. I think it might depend on the type of game that they releae..after all Steam/PC didn't save BINARY DOMAIN did it? So why would VANQUISH be any different.
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VC was carried by hype and word of mouth, Sega barely made an effort... Considering the amount of people frothing over VANQUISH on various sites I think it could do very well... Others, Virtua Fighter 5 would be much more modest... Unfortunately.
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VC was carried by hype and word of mouth, Sega barely made an effort.
It be interesting to see the real sales as I doubt they're really massive. I doubt it mean we'll ever get a full blown sequel with Canvas II powering it for the next gen sadly . Imo and I've said it for years all of SEGA's games should be on PC just like it used to do in the DC and Saturn days .
I've never understood why they aren't when most of the games are developed on the PC for starters , even if they just sell 50,000 units its easy money
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I doubt it mean we'll ever get a full blown sequel with Canvas II powering it for the next gen sadly .
I doubt there is such a thing, these anime cel-shaded game seem to barely advance.
Most that they would do is putting more objects into a map (more detail).
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I doubt there is such a thing, these anime cel-shaded game seem to barely advance.
Most that they would do is putting more objects into a map (more detail).
There's always room to advance and add in more lighting effects and what not , just look at the likes of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jDZfREYppk
Just think there's no major market for this Val IV at full price be that on PC or consoles , Seems that open world RPG's are much more in demand sadly
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VC was carried by hype and word of mouth, Sega barely made an effort... Considering the amount of people frothing over VANQUISH on various sites I think it could do very well... Others, Virtua Fighter 5 would be much more modest... Unfortunately.
That's mainly because people thought Sega gave into to their campaign..which we know they didn't. Anyway with this and the recent VC3 costumes...i'm thinking that Sega has a VC title in the works...its just too coincidental that you have the PC game in the west and VC related items for PHANTASY STAR NOVA...obviously they're pushing VC for a reason....
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That's mainly because people thought Sega gave into to their campaign..which we know they didn't. Anyway with this and the recent VC3 costumes...i'm thinking that Sega has a VC title in the works...its just too coincidental that you have the PC game in the west and VC related items for PHANTASY STAR NOVA...obviously they're pushing VC for a reason....
It could just be testing the waters too. Maybe they want to continue the franchise, which is obvious from the amount of tie ins they've done but they are unsure how much the audience want it. This is a relatively easy way to see if a sequel may get enough attention.
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It could just be testing the waters too. Maybe they want to continue the franchise, which is obvious from the amount of tie ins they've done but they are unsure how much the audience want it. This is a relatively easy way to see if a sequel may get enough attention.
I would say that if it was a single approach..but usually if its done like this..its usually a tie in or build up to something. SOJ kinda does this from time to time where they tie in a game to a big selling game as a promotion..SHINING REASONACE had that recently before it came out..i think...
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It could just be testing the waters too. Maybe they want to continue the franchise, which is obvious from the amount of tie ins they've done but they are unsure how much the audience want it. This is a relatively easy way to see if a sequel may get enough attention.
I was hoping it was testing the waters for PC ports rather than Valk sequels. I would love another Valk game, but I also think it's more realistic to hope for more PC ports.
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VC isn't a defunct series..its carried on in japan..with four titles...VC, VC 2, VC 3 and VC 3 Special Edition. Some webspace type game and merchandise and an anime. Its more likely ties to that MM rather than bringing more PC ports at the moment...
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VC isn't a defunct series..its carried on in japan..with four titles...VC, VC 2, VC 3 and VC 3 Special Edition. Some webspace type game and merchandise and an anime. Its more likely ties to that MM rather than bringing more PC ports at the moment...
I don't doubt it, but I'm just saying I'm not sure how excited I am for more VC with the way the series progressed.
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I don't doubt it, but I'm just saying I'm not sure how excited I am for more VC with the way the series progressed.
Valkyria Chronicles 3 is about a group of criminals/dishonourably discharged soldiers who are forced to fight for the Gallia militia in more or less suicide missions since the chain of command sees them as expandable. So it's really nothing like the second game in tone, which was just SEGA trying to grab the Monster Hunter and anime crowd, the third one is a closer return to form.
Anyway it could do both, testing the water for ports and also if a title does well enough, expand on it with sequels/side games. As Joe mentioned, The House of the Dead: Overkill only got made because The House of the Dead port on the Wii smashed all of SEGA's expectations.
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I don't doubt it, but I'm just saying I'm not sure how excited I am for more VC with the way the series progressed.
Well of course that's down to what you want and what they eventually release...pretty much like what people want from Sonic and what Sega do with it are two different things...
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Valkyria Chronicles 3 is about a group of criminals/dishonourably discharged soldiers who are forced to fight for the Gallia militia in more or less suicide missions since the chain of command sees them as expandable. So it's really nothing like the second game in tone, which was just SEGA trying to grab the Monster Hunter and anime crowd, the third one is a closer return to form.
I'm not talking about tone, I didn't even mind the military academy aspect of VC 2, even down to the almost ludicrously large breasted women antagonists.
I just hated that everything was downscaled for the PSP, to the point where the battles almost felt like a chore sometimes since they were on such small maps and had a lot of the variety removed. At least of what I played of it (which was a few hours in and really wanting to like it).
I don't know if VC3 improved on that aspect. The idea of playing as a Penal Battalion sounds awesome though.
Well of course that's down to what you want and what they eventually release...pretty much like what people want from Sonic and what Sega do with it are two different things...
Oh don't worry, I know full well that what I want and what Sega does are two different things. if they did everything I wanted they would likely be bankrupt by now three times over.
Having said that, I do think it would be a mistake for Sega to ignore this as a sign that PC ports are a viable revenue stream for them too.
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I just hated that everything was downscaled for the PSP, to the point where the battles almost felt like a chore sometimes since they were on such small maps and had a lot of the variety removed. At least of what I played of it (which was a few hours in and really wanting to like it).
I don't know if VC3 improved on that aspect. The idea of playing as a Penal Battalion sounds awesome though.
That really comes down to the PSP being weaker hardware to work with, sacrifices had to be made. Just like with Phantasy Star Zero for the DS, it wasn't a change in direction of the franchise, just them compromising due to the hardware.
I do think there is a real drive Inn getting more ports on the PC. I just wouldn't rule them out on wanting to continue the franchise.
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That really comes down to the PSP being weaker hardware to work with, sacrifices had to be made. Just like with Phantasy Star Zero for the DS, it wasn't a change in direction of the franchise, just them compromising due to the hardware.
I understand that they had to compromise for the hardware, and it hurt the game as a result.
If they were to make the next game PS4/PC or whatever that would be cool.
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There's always room to advance and add in more lighting effects and what not , just look at the likes of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jDZfREYppk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jDZfREYppk)
Just think there's no major market for this Val IV at full price be that on PC or consoles , Seems that open world RPG's are much more in demand sadly
Well this game (which is an indie game) is not a result of proccesing power, but good Art direction and what not.
Same with Valkyria, the strengh doesn't lie so much in processing power but clever use of filter and art direction. If you take that out, you get a bland looking cel-shaded games similar to Shining Resonance or Tales of games.
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That really comes down to the PSP being weaker hardware to work with, sacrifices had to be made. Just like with Phantasy Star Zero for the DS, it wasn't a change in direction of the franchise, just them compromising due to the hardware.
I do think there is a real drive Inn getting more ports on the PC. I just wouldn't rule them out on wanting to continue the franchise.
Well this is the problem isn't it. We all know VC getting ported fits the Sega- console to PC ratio pattern that they have been doing for years. There's something obviously VC related happening due to the VC pc game and VC content DLC for NOVA being available in the same time/month...and we know VC started to be ported before this campaign started. There's nothing to suggest that Sega will have learned anything because in their view point they're doing something they've always done. While its took soon to say what the impact for VC is..i feel it must have been considerable because of the fact that they released a PR statement. Sega only does that if a title took them by surprise and they were pleased by the results...that's what happened with SONIC GEMS COLLECTION..or one of the genesis collections for consoles...That's what happened with GBA version of SHINING FORCE remake..which led to other SHINING FORCE games..and the series crapness..and i'm sure it happened with HOTD 2+3..which led to other HOTD titles and the eventual HOTD4 port.
Now its VC..so something will happen..some of the titles it beat in the top five in the USA alone were selling big numbers..so VC sold a lot... be it a new game which i think was going to happen anyway...but some ports of certain Console titles from Sega.
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So apparently Sega has been working on this port for over a year. I didn't realise it would be such a long development time for a port. Is Valk actually going to be that profitable? Is it worth tying up a developer for a full year just for a port?
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Depends if they tied up the whole studio.
The Revengance port to PC for example, I think was only handled by a group of 8 or so folks.
Even if they did, Outgrossing both COD and AC at or near their release dates is a pretty good sign in my book that it has probably if not soon will profit(ed).
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Depends if they tied up the whole studio.
The Revengance port to PC for example, I think was only handled by a group of 8 or so folks.
Even if they did, Outgrossing both COD and AC at or near their release dates is a pretty good sign in my book that it has probably if not soon will profit(ed).
Of course its made a profit. There's no doubt it about that judging from Sega's reaction. And mr Arcade is correct..most big studios/developers rarely often handle the ports of games to other systems themselves..they get other studios to do it...usually on the cheap. PG had another team to do the BAY 1 WIIU port. Sega often uses other companies to port their titles. Hell PG didn't even code or port BAY PS3.
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Just for remember, Sega Europe seems to be the full-force behind this port both external and internally. CA now is a big studio thanks to SS invesments.
I hope Satomi's son is going to be more flexible with R&D on the West.
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Well this is the problem isn't it. We all know VC getting ported fits the Sega- console to PC ratio pattern that they have been doing for years. There's something obviously VC related happening due to the VC pc game and VC content DLC for NOVA being available in the same time/month...and we know VC started to be ported before this campaign started. There's nothing to suggest that Sega will have learned anything because in their view point they're doing something they've always done. While its took soon to say what the impact for VC is..i feel it must have been considerable because of the fact that they released a PR statement. Sega only does that if a title took them by surprise and they were pleased by the results...that's what happened with SONIC GEMS COLLECTION..or one of the genesis collections for consoles...That's what happened with GBA version of SHINING FORCE remake..which led to other SHINING FORCE games..and the series crapness..and i'm sure it happened with HOTD 2+3..which led to other HOTD titles and the eventual HOTD4 port.
Now its VC..so something will happen..some of the titles it beat in the top five in the USA alone were selling big numbers..so VC sold a lot... be it a new game which i think was going to happen anyway...but some ports of certain Console titles from Sega.
I actually think that what you're suggesting is fairly likely also. if something isn't already in the early stages for VC, more discussions are being had about what to do next for the franchise, although the latter is probably more likely I think. My guess is that someone within Sega has brought up making a new full-fledged Valkyria game and, seeing as this would be a controversial move because of the investment, talks may be stalling. But at least it's that, instead of what we might've assumed in the past based on the relative inactivity outside of VC Duel: a moratorium on the franchise.
Besides the VC stuff you cited, there is a Valkyria team in Dengeki Bunko: Fighting Climax. Valkyria II was supposed to be a Playstation TV (western version of Vita TV) title but for whatever reason it's been pulled.
As for the Shining series speculation, well I would've just assumed it would continue going because even if I don't know how much money they make, Sega continues to make those games on a regular basis. And since Blade Arcus was made, which on some level celebrates the newer era of Shining by using characters across the more recent entries, it seems like Sega would be confident about the franchise.
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Well this game (which is an indie game) is not a result of proccesing power, but good Art direction and what not
It helps along with the bigger levels of Ram . Cel Shading (hate the made up term but never mind) graphics do look better with new more powerful Hardware . Just look at the jumps we saw with DC to NA@MI II and then XBox/Cube and then to the PS3/360 in terms of the improvements and jumps we saw in Cel shading graphics
So apparently Sega has been working on this port for over a year.
Doesn't mean much as some times Teams will be working other things while handling the port at the same time (in like Part Time fashion)
That really comes down to the PSP being weaker hardware to work with, sacrifices had to be made. Just like with Phantasy Star Zero for the DS, it wasn't a change in direction of the franchise, just them compromising due to the hardware
And the main reason was the cut costs and it showed . So I highly doubt SEGA will look to fund a new Val for the next gen Hardware saldy
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Of course its made a profit. There's no doubt it about that judging from Sega's reaction. And mr Arcade is correct..most big studios/developers rarely often handle the ports of games to other systems themselves..they get other studios to do it...usually on the cheap. PG had another team to do the BAY 1 WIIU port. Sega often uses other companies to port their titles. Hell PG didn't even code or port BAY PS3.
If I'm not mistaken, that same porting group PG used also handled work on Vanquish. I'm still amazed this port was even made, due to the often cited programming structure of the PS3.
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I actually think that what you're suggesting is fairly likely also. if something isn't already in the early stages for VC, more discussions are being had about what to do next for the franchise, although the latter is probably more likely I think. My guess is that someone within Sega has brought up making a new full-fledged Valkyria game and, seeing as this would be a controversial move because of the investment, talks may be stalling. But at least it's that, instead of what we might've assumed in the past based on the relative inactivity outside of VC Duel: a moratorium on the franchise.
Besides the VC stuff you cited, there is a Valkyria team in Dengeki Bunko: Fighting Climax. Valkyria II was supposed to be a Playstation TV (western version of Vita TV) title but for whatever reason it's been pulled.
As for the Shining series speculation, well I would've just assumed it would continue going because even if I don't know how much money they make, Sega continues to make those games on a regular basis. And since Blade Arcus was made, which on some level celebrates the newer era of Shining by using characters across the more recent entries, it seems like Sega would be confident about the franchise.
There's no speculation about that series. All i was saying is how the success of one title..mainly the remake prompted Sega to progress new games...and the reason why they continue is that they make them on a cheap budget and get decent returns. I think for console there has been three major big budget(which would be B level budget not AAA) SHINING titles released by Sega for console...and of course the popularity as you mentioned of the awful SHINING FORCE arcade games.
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(http://i.imgur.com/44Kj3o1.png)
One of the staff over at Sports Interactive tweets(Football Manager)
EDIT: Studio Director
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(http://i.imgur.com/44Kj3o1.png)
One of the staff over at Sports Interactive tweets(Football Manager)
EDIT: Studio Director
For some reason it feels so strange seeing that tweet. I mean, just because he works on sports games doesn't mean he can't like other genres. I guess it's just something I never expected to see. a UK Studio that creates Football Manager tweet about how much they love Valkyria Chronicles.
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OK, I thought I wrote something here a while back, maybe not.
Anyway, this game chugs a lot on my ATI Radeon HD 5000 at 1920x1080p@60HZ, fortunately it runs just fine on 1440x960@60hz.
I'm on chapter 3, there's been a lot of interesting things going on.
When I started playing the game, I noticed how it's actually fairly similar to Resonance of Fate. Of course instead of controlling the same 3 characters with roughly the same objetive, you control a tank and an entire squad which makes this far more complex.
Everything counts, the characters you pick and take into battle, how you have to use lancers, snipers, shocktroopers, mechanics and scouts and how they fully engage in combat.
I got Vyse from my very first draft, so that was kick-ass.
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Anyway, this game chugs a lot on my ATI Radeon HD 5000 at 1920x1080p@60HZ, fortunately it runs just fine on 1440x960@60hz.
I had to drop my visuals to 720p, no V-sync, 30fps to get the game running incredibly. I haven't tried further tests of resolution & frame rate with V-sync off, but I'm not left wanting more. It looks great and has none of the frame rate dips (so far) that I remember on PS3 (Batomys battle).
I got Vyse from my very first draft, so that was kick-ass.
I got Vyse & Aika first thing, which was rad. Took a few drafts to get Marina though, and 14+ hours in to finally get Jann. I have all my favorites now. :))
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Show of hands: If VC is running choppy for you, how many have an AMD component in their system and which one is it?
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Runs fine here at 1080p, v-sync and all that stuff enabled.
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Show of hands: If VC is running choppy for you, how many have an AMD component in their system and which one is it
AMD Athlon II X2 260.
I actually never saw the game play choppy, it instead played in slow motion as if there was a bullet-time feature activated. Very silly.
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Do you put your PC to sleep? I had that issue with Jet Set Radio HD and it was because my PC was in sleep mode then I played the game. After I restarted, re-opened the game, it worked fine.
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You might also try ALT+TAB-ing out of the game and then opening it up again. A few of the older games I had would lag like crazy. Disciples II was the most infamous, but I just alt+tab out, open again and suddenly it is running without a hitch.
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My laptop is kinda old too (a Toshiba Satellite L500-13W) so I'm not surprised that it chugs (Binary Domain runs OK, though, but when the PC starts overheating, it also stutters). I'll clean the PC up once I get a chance to do it.
But anyway, back to the game itself, man, I played this last night till 1am. I had to retry a particularly hard battle against a massive tank and a seemingly indestructible lady, fortunately without losing any of my team members. Took 3 tries on that one, though.