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Title: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Barry the Nomad on April 14, 2015, 11:28:00 am

3D Sonic The Hedgehog 2, Streets of Rage 2 and Gunstar Heroes added to SEGA 3D Classics wave two!


http://segabits.com/blog/2015/04/14/3d-sonic-the-hedgehog-2-streets-of-rage-2-and-gunstar-heroes-added-to-sega-3d-classics-wave-two/


Thoughts?
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: MadeManG74 on April 14, 2015, 11:31:10 am
I wish they would release these games on a system I actually own and use.
Otherwise fucking fantastic. They look like great ports done well.
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Trippled on April 14, 2015, 11:33:42 am
I hope they go all the way for GunStar Heroes. Don't ex-Treasure folks work at M2 now?
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Nirmugen on April 14, 2015, 11:36:32 am
Just as I said, "wait and see" all this year ;)
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Barry the Nomad on April 14, 2015, 11:37:24 am
Months back:

SEGA: there is no Wave 3...

Today:

SEGA ... but there is more of wave 2!
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: MadeManG74 on April 14, 2015, 11:37:58 am
Just as I said, "wait and see" all this year ;)


You were alluding to more ports of Mega Drive games?
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Nirmugen on April 14, 2015, 11:39:48 am
Yes and No. Time will tell...that's all I can say.
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Trippled on April 14, 2015, 11:43:49 am
I heard Sega say that Mega Drive ports are more popular overseas than in Japan. Makes sense, tough I guess Japan won't get this immadietly? Why is it dificult to Sega to just make WW releases?
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Barry the Nomad on April 14, 2015, 11:54:17 am
I noticed the PS2 release of Sega Ages 2500 Series Vol. 25: Gunstar Heroes: Treasure Box featured the prototype of Gunstar Heroes as a bonus. I hope this carries over to the 3DS!
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: MadeManG74 on April 14, 2015, 11:58:32 am
Yes and No. Time will tell...that's all I can say.

You sound like a daily horoscope now.

Guys, just wait. Watch Sega. Trust me. Later, not right now, not never, but at some point. Believe. ;)
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Sharky on April 14, 2015, 12:34:41 pm
Yes and No. Time will tell...that's all I can say.

(http://datascopeanalytics.com/static/uploads/blog/2014-12-08/crystal-ball-500_big.jpg)
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: George on April 14, 2015, 03:22:04 pm
People complained that the SEGA AGES titles didn't come here, now this is the new line basically of them and their fantastic. I'm excited for Streets of Rage 2 and Gunstar Heroes. I hope more Treasure stuff makes it over :)
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: CrazyT on April 14, 2015, 03:44:00 pm
Gunstar heroes in 3d

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y246/adamn86/1380229300034_zps758a020e.gif)
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Sharky on April 14, 2015, 03:55:27 pm
How much are 3DS these days anyway?

Also how did Shinobi 3DS do? Bombed I suppose... Gameplay really awesome, graphics looked shockingly bad wish so much it had come out on PC or something instead.
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Moody on April 14, 2015, 04:43:37 pm
Brand new 3DS' are like...199 bucks? Refurbished ones from Nintendo are like 149, I think. I can't really say because I bought mine basically new for forty bucks.
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: George on April 14, 2015, 04:45:12 pm
Yeah some of their early titles leave a lot to be desired but Outrun 3D is literally one of the best home releases for the game, if not THE BEST.

The 'New' 3DS XL is like 200 new usd (i dunno else where), so you can get the older models (that play all these games) for less than 150. I seen some used for 100 dollars. 2DS' are even cheaper (i think they retail for 120)
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: CrazyT on April 14, 2015, 06:12:26 pm
How much are 3DS these days anyway?

Also how did Shinobi 3DS do? Bombed I suppose... Gameplay really awesome, graphics looked shockingly bad wish so much it had come out on PC or something instead.
These releases are set apart and well justified from the regular ones because of the 3d. The new 3ds enhances the 3d effect a lot So you have to pick between cheap original model or more expensive enhanced model.
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Sharky on April 14, 2015, 07:14:46 pm
Thanks guys. I've never liked handheld consoles... But these are really awesome. Decisions, decisions...
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: SuperSonicEX on April 14, 2015, 09:08:35 pm
These releases are set apart and well justified from the regular ones because of the 3d. The new 3ds enhances the 3d effect a lot So you have to pick between cheap original model or more expensive enhanced model.

You also have to buy the charging cable separately if you're getting the New3DS.
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: CrazyT on April 14, 2015, 10:36:32 pm
You also have to buy the charging cable separately if you're getting the New3DS.
Lol yeah dont forget about that. I used to have a non genuine one ordered from ebay for like 2 euros. But when I got the n3ds i noticed that it charged really slow compared to the original. Just a heads up, the cheap knock offs dont charge as fast

It sucks that they wont do a 3 game bundle of some sort. I kind of want them all but a bundle discount would ve been a nice incentive
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: George on April 14, 2015, 11:51:33 pm
According to GAF, Streets of Rage 2 3D will have a new single player storymode where you will use all the characters throughout the journey. Now, that is cool. I hope Adam is selectable after completing the game.

Can we give a round of applause for SEGA announcing this world wide and not having to wait a year after Japan?
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Berto on April 15, 2015, 04:57:58 am
According to GAF, Streets of Rage 2 3D will have a new single player storymode where you will use all the characters throughout the journey. Now, that is cool. I hope Adam is selectable after completing the game.

Can we give a round of applause for SEGA announcing this world wide and not having to wait a year after Japan?

Of course, all kudos to SEGA.  ;-D
And finally the Japanese site has been updated to catch the US blog :

http://archives.sega.jp/3d/archives/index.html

There's still nothing to read though, just grayish logos.
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: TruthEnigma on April 15, 2015, 05:04:42 am
I love this news. Three of my favourite games of all time! Whoo!

I'm loving the work M2 has done on these conversions. I'd be fascinated to see what the actual sales figures for these were, as I'd love to see what percentage of the mainstream 3DS audience would be inclined to get them.
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: segaismysavior on April 15, 2015, 09:24:59 am
Currently rocking to the SoR2 soundtrack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrF3WPi_7uI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrF3WPi_7uI)

It's tough to sit still at work and not bob around to dem beats.

I cannot wait to play this again.
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: SOUP on April 15, 2015, 09:32:35 am
They've done a really good job with the other 3D classics, so I can't wait for these.
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Clumsyorchid on April 15, 2015, 05:31:45 pm
Can we give a round of applause for SEGA announcing this world wide and not having to wait a year after Japan?

This is something that Sam (our producer on all these titles) and I worked really hard on syncing up for a worldwide announcement. The dates of release are different, but we can all talk about the games and know they'll arrive in all territories. It's not often we get to do this, so it's something really special. To see this getting picked up on makes me very happy.

Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: George on April 15, 2015, 05:45:13 pm
This is something that Sam (our producer on all these titles) and I worked really hard on syncing up for a worldwide announcement. The dates of release are different, but we can all talk about the games and know they'll arrive in all territories. It's not often we get to do this, so it's something really special. To see this getting picked up on makes me very happy.
Nice. I think now with the way the internet works and how much entertainment people have at their disposal, its good to strike with the games while the iron is hot so to say. Glad these are coming relatively close to the Japanese release and I hope they sell well enough for SEGA to continue to make world wide announcements on localizing titles.

I'm generally shocked and excited for 3D Gunstar Heroes... really wondering what the M2 wizards will add to the game.
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Sharky on April 15, 2015, 10:06:46 pm
This is something that Sam (our producer on all these titles) and I worked really hard on syncing up for a worldwide announcement. The dates of release are different, but we can all talk about the games and know they'll arrive in all territories. It's not often we get to do this, so it's something really special. To see this getting picked up on makes me very happy.



Well done! Please say you're both staying on at SoA when the office moves? You're an asset.
I hope this series of Ports continue and more from M2/SEGA in the future, 3DS or no 3DS there are so many more.

Off topic, any news/trailers on Tembo the Elephant coming soon?

Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Berto on April 15, 2015, 10:25:41 pm
This is something that Sam (our producer on all these titles) and I worked really hard on syncing up for a worldwide announcement. The dates of release are different, but we can all talk about the games and know they'll arrive in all territories. It's not often we get to do this, so it's something really special. To see this getting picked up on makes me very happy.

Wow.. You're from SEGA? I just want to say Excellent job done about these 3D classic announcement !!!

I've read in this : http://senpaigamer.com/nintendo-3ds/3d-bare-knuckle-ii-release-april-28-japan-gunstar-heroes-sonic-hedgehog-2-also-comes-04
the Japanese version of Streets of Rage II would released on April 28, 2015 for Japanese e-shop.
Usually I couldn't wait, afraid the US version won't come up, and bought the Japanese version (I have two different regions of 3DS, Jap and US). But now I'll wait and buy the US version instead.
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Clumsyorchid on April 16, 2015, 11:31:44 am
Well done! Please say you're both staying on at SoA when the office moves? You're an asset.
I hope this series of Ports continue and more from M2/SEGA in the future, 3DS or no 3DS there are so many more.

Off topic, any news/trailers on Tembo the Elephant coming soon?

Very nice of you to say, but I'll be departing in June. I'm sad to go because I love to work on titles like these, and do all sorts of fan focused activities, but I'm in need of a change of scenery, so it's for the best.

Not sure on Tembo, but I'm sure there will be more before it releases.

Wow.. You're from SEGA? I just want to say Excellent job done about these 3D classic announcement !!!

I've read in this : http://senpaigamer.com/nintendo-3ds/3d-bare-knuckle-ii-release-april-28-japan-gunstar-heroes-sonic-hedgehog-2-also-comes-04
the Japanese version of Streets of Rage II would released on April 28, 2015 for Japanese e-shop.
Usually I couldn't wait, afraid the US version won't come up, and bought the Japanese version (I have two different regions of 3DS, Jap and US). But now I'll wait and buy the US version instead.

Awesome, definitely adding this to my report. First hand feedback like this is really powerful stuff, I appreciate it.

I'm glad you enjoyed our announcement, just wait until you play the games. They are all turning out awesome, can't wait to read about it when the launch :).
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Sharky on April 16, 2015, 11:35:47 am
Aw, that's a shame!

Good luck in whatever you do next!
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: pirovash88 on April 16, 2015, 03:08:22 pm
Sonic 2 in 3D?!?!? I just jizzed while at work..
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: WagTrautmann on April 17, 2015, 12:40:59 am
Nice, I love Streets of Rage  :-D
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: CrazyT on April 18, 2015, 05:03:01 pm
Ive played a bit of fantasy zone 2. Ok so the last time ive played a fantasy zone game was a long time ago on the game gear. I replayed it a lot as far as I remember. This one seems to feel really good so far. Almost too good. Has stuff been adjusted for this game as well? I mean wow ive really missed out skipping the original
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: George on April 18, 2015, 06:51:36 pm
Fantasy Zone II is a System 16 remake of the original which was made for Master System hardware. The orginal Fantasy Zone was made on System 16. M2 actually are the ones behind the System 16 remake in 2008 which was made for the SEGA Ages re-releases (that only got released in Japan). I did go a bit into it on my review on the front page:

(http://segabits.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/FZIIremake.png)
http://segabits.com/blog/2015/04/16/review-3d-fantasy-zone-ii-the-tears-of-opa-opa-nintendo-3ds/

So yeah, it has been overhauled and changed in the remake.
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: CrazyT on April 18, 2015, 07:10:43 pm
^Wow what a difference. I knew it felt too good than it should have been. It seems very optomized as if it was an original release for the platform. It makes you appreciate all the work even more :)
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: CrazyT on May 02, 2015, 05:44:17 am
Loving Fantasy Zone. Since I've got its become my pick up and play game. But its really hard lol! How far did you all get? Me only at stage 2 so far
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Sharky on May 02, 2015, 07:26:27 am
Fantasy Zone is one of those series I would love to come back exactly as it is... A game for mobile which progresses in a similar way to how Sonic Runners progresses would be awesome. Free to play with extra lives/weapons you can buy from the parts shop.
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: MadeManG74 on May 02, 2015, 07:34:05 am
Fantasy Zone is one of those series I would love to come back exactly as it is... A game for mobile which progresses in a similar way to how Sonic Runners progresses would be awesome. Free to play with extra lives/weapons you can buy from the parts shop.

Have you ever tried playing a scolling shooter on touch screen? You don't want that, trust me.
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Sharky on May 02, 2015, 09:03:51 am
Have you ever tried playing a scolling shooter on touch screen? You don't want that, trust me.

I'd probably play it on PC, it would no doubt be available on PC too. I'm not saying I'm in love with mobile gaming I don't even like handhelds much... But its plain to see that the kind of games I like, like fantasy zone have a shot of returning on mobile where simple pick up and play arcade games are still big business.
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: George on May 02, 2015, 01:50:56 pm
If it where to be on mobile, it would need to be remixed, make it easier, cuz you have to be pretty freaking perfect in some of those levels. Basically have to make it slower and more forgiving.
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Sharky on May 02, 2015, 02:06:59 pm
I'd have the difficulty ramp up way slower over a good number of levels, like, a tonne of levels. Have it so you can buy items with points as usual, or real money. No sending you back to the start of the game on game over, have say 3 levels then a boss and after the boss it's a check point... SO you die on a boss and you're either sent back 3 levels or you buy an extra life for 99p. Some people will pay and people like me will go back and replay 3 levels until I beat it, since that's what I do on Fantasy Zone anyway, and love it.
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Berto on May 04, 2015, 02:18:07 am
I'm glad 3D Bare Knuckle II's doing well in Japan.
Getting last week's top 10 in the eShop chart and became the most recommended eShop game by player.
Hopefully it will have the same fate in western.

(https://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/2010/2310/original.jpg?w=600&h)

Link : http://segabits.com/forums/index.php?topic=39.msg76658#msg76658
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Chaosmaster8753 on May 11, 2015, 10:43:32 pm
Could 3D Sonic 3 & Knuckles potentially happen?
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Berto on May 11, 2015, 11:58:28 pm
Could 3D Sonic 3 & Knuckles potentially happen?

May be in the third wave (if there's any, still waiting for sales trend),
but for second wave, Sonic 2 is the last one.

Quote
Yosuke Okunari :
 These games aren’t the start of a new series so we have no plans for the future.

Okunari:
These three titles were put out for download overseas simply as an extension [to the existing series]. This really is the end for the second wave [of Sega 3D Classics].
Of course we want to consider the development of a third wave based on the response to this second wave, but we have no plans at this point in time. We’ll look at the big picture, that is, we'll look at the sales trends of the physical release of the Sega 3D Classics line that went on sale last year [in Japan] as well as how the upcoming three titles perform in the global market. We’re happy to do this indefinitely if sales are good.

Source : http://automaton.am/articles/news-bits/m2-int1/
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: crackdude on May 12, 2015, 04:20:31 am
I really wish they made a 3D Super Monaco GP.
Maybe include the arcade game in it as well. A man can dream..
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: MadeManG74 on May 12, 2015, 08:00:23 am
I really wish they made a 3D Super Monaco GP.
Maybe include the arcade game in it as well. A man can dream..

That would be sick. I loved the music in that game, even though 5 year old me was far too noob to play that game well.
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: crackdude on May 12, 2015, 10:08:59 am
That would be sick. I loved the music in that game, even though 5 year old me was far too noob to play that game well.
The music was really intense, a sort of "we can do this" tune to pump you up whenever you enter the pits. It was a-fucking-mazing. It had a great career mode years before racing games got that right.
The arcade version had incredible scalable graphics. So I wish they remade the MegaDrive game, but allowed you to play the arcade version as well. Shit would be so cash.
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Centrale on May 12, 2015, 01:49:15 pm
I played the hell outta Super Monaco GP on the Genesis. But my driving technique was questionable... I blocked cars left and right in order to keep the lead! I remember seeing them spinning out, smoke pouring from them in the rearview mirror. And the title screen...  :-*
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Barry the Nomad on May 12, 2015, 03:42:52 pm
SEGA sent an advance review copy our way for 3D Thunder Blade, here's my full review: http://segabits.com/blog/2015/05/12/review-3d-thunder-blade-nintendo-3ds/
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Berto on June 22, 2015, 04:41:58 am
3D Gunstar Heroes Trailer  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR1RcDCRTYY
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Berto on July 14, 2015, 11:08:21 pm
3D Sonic The Hedgehog 2 Trailer
According to the official site (http://archives.sega.jp/3d/sonic2/index.html), there will be "Ring Keep" mode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw6C3ZbA6Yo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw6C3ZbA6Yo)
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: CrazyT on July 14, 2015, 11:38:41 pm
Day 1 for both of those
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Tad on July 15, 2015, 12:11:55 am
It's not for me as I don't play handhelds, but these do sound like fun.
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Randroid on July 15, 2015, 01:08:13 am
Gunstar Heroes in 3D is gonna be insane.
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Berto on July 22, 2015, 12:26:11 am
The Game.watch.impress interview's translation for SOR2 is up on the SEGA Blog (part 1, still).

http://blogs.sega.com/2015/07/21/3d-streets-of-rage-2-makes-its-way-into-the-sega-3d-classics-interview-part-1/ (http://blogs.sega.com/2015/07/21/3d-streets-of-rage-2-makes-its-way-into-the-sega-3d-classics-interview-part-1/)

Quote
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/496/19106581604_4bdecc7fb5.jpg)

"Streets of Rage 2 features diagonally scrolling sections initially deemed impossible to render in stereoscopic 3D. But then something happened that took the impossible and spun it right around. It happened at the end of develop of Streets of Rage. I didn’t talk about it during the Streets of Rage interview because I wasn’t sure if the project would continue, but…. "
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Randroid on July 24, 2015, 02:42:35 am
SOR2 is downloadable now. It looks gorgeous in 3D!

These Genesis titles look fantastic this way. Can I dream that Sonic 3nK will get the same treatment down the road?
Title: Re: 3D SoR II, Sonic 2, and Gunstar Heroes announced!
Post by: Berto on July 24, 2015, 02:49:24 am
SOR2 is downloadable now. It looks gorgeous in 3D!

These Genesis titles look fantastic this way. Can I dream that Sonic 3nK will get the same treatment down the road?

Of course. Since Batch 1 already had Sonic 1 & SOR1, and this batch 2 had Sonic 2 & SOR2,
I guess anyone would expect there will be Sonic 3&K and SOR 3 for batch 3.
If there will be batch 3 though, they said they'll consider batch 3 only if the sales of batch 2 good enough.

And there is also interesting interview with Sam Mullen & Yosuke Okunari in the Nintendo World Report's website,
in case you have missed it.
They also shared if they could turn one classic Nintendo game into a 3D Classic, what would it be and why.

Link : http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/interview/40797/3d-streets-of-rage-2-interview (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/interview/40797/3d-streets-of-rage-2-interview)

Quote
(http://archives.sega.jp/3d/gh/img/img_main.jpg)

For 3D Gunstar Heroes, originally if you wanted to use Blue you had to use the 2P controller, but we've made it so you can do that without having to play Local Player.
And for 3D Sonic 2, you can even have 2P control Tails in single-player mode in addition to the normal VS mode.