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Gaming => General Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: CrazyT on April 24, 2015, 11:37:21 am
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I figured why not since everyone who owns a nintendo device most likely already watches these. They seem pretty loaded with information and all kinds of anouncements of great games. But mainly why im opening this topic now and not before or later is because we're getting a Xenoblade Chronicles X Direct today. So let the topic start with that.
It is my personal most anticipated game of the year and a dedicated direct for the game can only mean lots of great and new things will be shown, and hopefully a western release date.
For those who dont know, Xenoblade is an upcoming open world JRPG that is looking to be one of the most groundbreaking ones, probably untill Final Fantasy XV comes out. But even if thats the case, Xenoblade will still set itself apart because of the mechs you can pilot and fully customize. And online multiplayer co op.
Anyway lots of information has been shared through japanese sources, but its the first time they're gonna share all information officially in english.
Here some quick images showcasing the game:
http://31.media.tumblr.com/a66a83732445785a6d478d9c7f74cb94/tumblr_njcuhkGzzN1t6jvvlo4_500.gif (http://31.media.tumblr.com/a66a83732445785a6d478d9c7f74cb94/tumblr_njcuhkGzzN1t6jvvlo4_500.gif)
http://a.pomf.se/lhbapd.gif (http://a.pomf.se/lhbapd.gif)
http://a.pomf.se/kupvyx.gif (http://a.pomf.se/kupvyx.gif)
Where to watch it: http://www.nintendo.com/nintendo-direct/04-24-2015/ (http://www.nintendo.com/nintendo-direct/04-24-2015/) (will add other links like youtube and twitch once available)
edit: http://www.twitch.tv/nintendo (http://www.twitch.tv/nintendo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSgf283mmd4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSgf283mmd4)
The direct will start in 1:50 hour from now. Anyone else really looking forward to this game and excited?
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Today/tomorrow there's going to be a nintendo direct. The first in a long time, also since Iwata's death.
November 12th 2Pm pacific time
10pm uk time
11pm europe time
The reason why im excited is because of rumors about a Zelda twilight princess HD. Im not sure if its gonna be shown though. Nintendo is pretty good with remakes. They usually fix broken things. And tbh there is a lot that could be fixed with that game.
Anyway anyone still excited about nintendo news lately? Any thoughts about Zelda twilight HD?
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I'd rather it was Skyward Sword as other then being a bit too long, it beats Twilight any day of the week for me.
I really hope they actually have stuff to show mind. These Directs usually just have one or two things then repeat what we've already seen.
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As of late Nintendo has been completely pants with their output. My 3DS has been collecting dust for months
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Playtonicgames (Yooka-Laylee) have been hinting about something today, so I'm guessing they'll be in this.
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I'd rather it was Skyward Sword as other then being a bit too long, it beats Twilight any day of the week for me.
I really hope they actually have stuff to show mind. These Directs usually just have one or two things then repeat what we've already seen.
Yeah this is just a regular(although t has been a long time) direct so we shouldnt expect much. Skyward sword redone would be nice as well, but that game came out quite recently compared to twilight princess so I think that is why they would go with twilight. It could still just be a fake rumor though.
As of late Nintendo has been completely pants with their output. My 3DS has been collecting dust for months
Yup. Its such an odd strategy to just keep quiet for so logn and then have games release close to the anouncements. I know someone who just recently sold his WII U but he would regret that decision greatly if twilight princess HD is a real thing. On one hand I can understand the strategy but on the other hand it makes consumers uncertain. But then again, its still better than games that get anounced through CGI trailers and are released after 3/4 years... or even never lol
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Hoping for more difficult Splatoon single player missions. And perhaps show some of the StarFox changes. But honestly, I don't expect them to show anything too spectacular. They'll probably just show off that Mario Tennis game some more.
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As of late Nintendo has been completely pants with their output. My 3DS has been collecting dust for months
Same. Although from what i played of the Yo-Kai Watch demo, it's a pretty neat game.
Twilight HD doesn't interest me at all, it was one of the only Zelda games i never liked. If they re-released Skyward Sword with no motion controls, that would get me excited.
Can't think of anything that Nintendo can do to not make me regret buying a Wii U. Direct will probably showcase future 3DS titles and not mention shit about Wii U.
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Youtube livestream hasnt come up yet but the twitch one has
http://www.twitch.tv/nintendo (http://www.twitch.tv/nintendo)
Edit: nvm here it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyanDsW9gMs
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It's gonna be 45 minutes?? :o
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^Haha yeah. Gotta get them expectations in check. After the digital event I cant get myself hyped anymore
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Twilight princess a highrr res remaster it seems. Nothing too special. That sneak peak at Zelda Wii U though
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Twilight Princess doesn't look like it was remastered at all. Blurry textures, low-poly models, last-gen motion blur, etc. What was even the point if the original is backwards compatible?
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Yeah it seems like a non significant outsourced remaster compared to what they usually do. Hmm less excited for it now.
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Just caught wind that Mother 3 is coming out on the Japanese Virtual Console? Got to imagine that was said during the Japanese Direct only, ha ha.
The inner pessimist/Mother fan in me wants to say it's not coming over here, but after Shenmue 3 got announced, I'm willing to hope for anything. More unlikely things have happened.
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Cloud in smash.... holy fucking shit. Thats it. Thats fucking it man, Nintendo direct delivered. Fuck everythin
Edit: Phew. That was unexpected. Well here's the trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRLo5_JPaew
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Overall, it was okay. They dipped into their back catalogue which is nice, but if you buy Nintendo stuff, the chances are you've played them already. The ZeldaPT most certainly did not look like anything was reworked. The dolphin emulated version looks better!
I'm annoyed by Nintendo's crappy management of Starfox and this wii u game looks no different. The sad thing is, we all know it won't sell and they'll use these crap sales as a reason not to make another one. Having to render to two screens is clearly effecting the games overall quality, so why do it. Nintendo?
Oh, and the Amiibo dlc/microtransaction stuff can go die in a fire. It's an awful thing to cut on disk content and the lists are just getting longer with each game.
My last comment will be the superb troll by Nintendo at the end. I wonder how many people thought they were getting FF7.
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Its funny what Final fantasy 7 does to people. It hit me pretty hard as well. Ff7 is just one of those games man
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Sorry, DLC for a two year old game doesn't excite me in the leastest.
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I dunno what people expected? I mean its like... all their big games are announced. If they continue to sprinkle their big announcements then when it comes to E3 it will be the same shit again "Nintendo has nothing etc".
Not disagreeing that they have 'almost nothing' and that the future is NX. But this is in the middle of November, I didn't expect new announcements until sometime in Feb-June. Not November.
Dragon Quest VII & VIII I see you.
I think this is just more for fans to understand that Nintendo is paying attention and working on hitting consumer demands. Getting Square's Dragon Quest games, special edition Fire Emblem package and even Mother 3 finally being brought over.
Not huge for non-fans, but pretty good considering...
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The thing with directs is that they always do have a lot of games I want. This one had more than I can afford actually. But ultimatly a direct is PR and is supposed to catch a lot of people´s attention. Tbh what this one did show great content and it ended with a BANG. I realize that most directs in the past, including E3 lacked that Bang. But then again E3 requires a loot more to impress people. Its all about expecations I guess. And in the end this one delivered for me personally.
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DQ is what I've been waiting for some I'm content with this Direct.
Could the showing of Cloud in Smash subtly mean that FF7 remake is coming to NX?
Also yokai is awesome.
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The small bit they showed of Zelda Wii U was another thing that surprised me.
(http://u.cubeupload.com/mattyd123/ZeldaWiiUnintendodir.gif)
The artstyle direction is just wow
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Sorry, DLC for a two year old game doesn't excite me in the leastest.
For FFVII fan, it doesnt matter where the game he would be show up, as long as he showed up.
If I were Nintendo I'll contact Activision to get Crash and Spyro to the game...
To add tension to their rival since they couldn't get them in PSASBR. >:D
(http://fs5.directupload.net/images/151113/sr7dqpwk.png)
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I'm not saying having Cloud isn't cool. I was just expecting more games! They presented NOTHING new, after an even more lackluster E3.
The WiiU has had 2 good games this whole year. TWO! While other platforms are swimming in great games.
I expected Nintendo to step up, but the most exciting thing is DLC, rereleases of 20 year old games (NEXT YEAR) and a remaster of a game that IS ALREADY PLAYABLE ON THE CONSOLE.
But wow those 3.7 seconds of new Zelda am I right
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Probably why theyre mostly supporting their infinetely replayable games like smash, splatoon and mario maker. At least here thats also the reason why it keeps getting used. Xenoblade X is the only game im buying for the wii u this year. The rest of my time goes to other consoles/PC. Its also the reason why I cant really be upset anymore about the lack of releases. Between the wii u and other consoles i have a hard time keeping up.
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I'm thinking about poor little Billy that wanted to play Smash so much, as well as all the other Nintendo franchises. And now he does have Smash........and that's it.
Poor Billy won't buy the NX when it comes out. In fact, I highly doubt he'll ever buy any Nintendo console again.
This is the Sega Saturn all over again, and this time not even the portables are stopping the sinking ship. And while I like to see Nintendo fail (yes, I'm a Sega fanboy, who would've known), I hate to see the last gaming company with tradition going down the DLC, plastic toys, F2P roads.
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I don't want Nintendo to go as such, but they're making it increasingly difficult to bother with them anymore. Pokemon played a huge part of my childhood and so did the N64, but they just keep going for this gimmicky stuff and failing to adapt at all.
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I'm thinking about poor little Billy that wanted to play Smash so much, as well as all the other Nintendo franchises. And now he does have Smash........and that's it.
Poor Billy won't buy the NX when it comes out. In fact, I highly doubt he'll ever buy any Nintendo console again.
This is the Sega Saturn all over again, and this time not even the portables are stopping the sinking ship. And while I like to see Nintendo fail (yes, I'm a Sega fanboy, who would've known), I hate to see the last gaming company with tradition going down the DLC, plastic toys, F2P roads.
I mean its a pretty shitty choice either way for a little kid. Because either its a dead console with very few games but all of them suit him. Or its the one with amazing support but little of it actuallly suit him and has to deal with either the big AAA games like COD, witcher, assassins creed etc. Or the few kids games that actually also exploit the kid with games like skylanders, disney infinity, lego dimensions. Unless nintendo starts to only support 1 console (or whats rumored to be a hybrid), I dont think they can make a platform attractive by themselves, for themselves and also third party. I do not see someone buy a nintendo console for a witcher game ever. 3rd parties also wont be bothered(or dont have the expertise) to make games in the vein of nintendo's. They've failed on the wii when they had the installbase. They wont try it again with the state of the industry and a lower installbase. So nintendo is basically all by themselves. Notice that all 3DS games are exclusives either through their own works or partnerships/deals. 3DS with its low specs can still manage, but HD is taking too much resources from them I think.
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I mean its a pretty shitty choice either way for a little kid.
I dont think they can make a platform attractive by themselves, for themselves and also third party.
The points I most agree with.
After Iwata's passing it was important for Nintendo to show a great line-up. A good focus. As it stands, it seems he was the last true videogamer on those board meetings.
Nintendo is done for.
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Something else. While the reactions to cloud in smash has been great, its pretty telling how many people didnt recognize the Ff7 tune at the beginning. Its sad how few nintendo fans recognized it. A huge contrast between the Ff7 remake reveal for playstation
I liked this one however
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK5gdf5cMPM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK5gdf5cMPM)
I honestly think that Ryo Hazuki should be next lol
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Hell, just replace every Smash character with FF characters. I didn't like Dissidia much, but sure as hell would play this
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Something else. While the reactions to cloud in smash has been great, its pretty telling how many people didnt recognize the Ff7 tune at the beginning. Its sad how few nintendo fans recognized it. A huge contrast between the Ff7 remake reveal for playstation
I liked this one however
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK5gdf5cMPM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK5gdf5cMPM)
I honestly think that Ryo Hazuki should be next lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoV27HhwuR4
same guy, obviously a huge FF fan. his reactions are good
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LOL! I knew I recognized him from somewhere. The look in his face at the beginning when he recognizes the tune is really awesome.
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Guys, it's literally been like five months since Iwata died. Chill out. Of course Nintendo's not gonna massively turn around with the best lineup immediately after the death of the man who practically remade the company.
Wait till this time next year, and if the situation hasn't improved, THEN you can say Nintendo is done for.
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I heard the exact same thing last year.
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I heard the exact same thing last year.
For like the past 5 years, actually.. Remember when everyone thought the Wii U was gonna be a hardcore gamer machine?
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For like the past 5 years, actually.. Remember when everyone thought the Wii U was gonna be a hardcore gamer machine?
Everyone seems to have forgotten this, but Nintendo themselves said it was going to be too. A year before they announced it, they went on stage with the name project Café, and with a show reel that featured Batman, cod, battlefield etc. They weren't running on the Wii u (they admitted), but that WAS that they were going for. Role on that E3 and we got the Wii u name and the half hearted "core" games. You could feel the buzz go out the window at the end. It fell flat.
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Nintendo has been dad since the N64 tbh. Just look at the games that came out for that console. Almost nothing. Gamecube same story, but really didnt care as a kid. I didnt know better but to play the few games my parents could afford anyway, but now looking back, almost nothing as well. First party wise they have actually improved, third party wise... yeah thats definitly a worse situation. All they got now is their amiibos (http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/16479iE4CD4416D19B3722?v=mpbl-1)
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If it hadn't been for the GameBoy Nintendo would have been kicked from hardware before Sega.
The Wii was the first runaway success they had since the NES
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And I'd argue that was where they went wrong. I remember saying Nintendo were in for a rocky time with their next console due to the wii (before we knew about the Wii u). People thought I was crazy, but it seems as though I was right.
Even if it wasn't a run away hit, the Gamecube at least tried to appeal to core gamers. Whereas, the Wii, actively shunned them for a new direction on non gamers. There's nothing wrong with that of course, but that market is very difficult to keep interested, and as soon as something more shiny arrived (tablets/smartphones), Nintendo lost their audience. Their next console needed to get those they lost back on side, but as soon as it was seen, people saw straight through their idea as another crack at the casual market.
It was a huge mistake by Nintendo.
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Wait how is the Wiiu not a "hardcore" gaming machine?
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It has none of the big titles, barely any third party support, a gimmick controller and was practically dead from the start.
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It has none of the big titles, barely any third party support, a gimmick controller and was practically dead from the start.
No. Just 100 times no. It may not be the machine everyone wants it to be but it was a clear effort on Nintendo's part to please fans like us.
Pikmin 3
Super Mario 3d World
Bayonetta 2/1
W101
Splatoon
MK8 with insane dlc support
Smash with Insane dlc support
DK tropical freeze
Rayman Legends
LoZ WW HD
Arkham City
Deus Ex
and with the upcoming Star Fox Zero and Xenoblade Chronicles X it's clear the MAJORITY of the software is geared towards the interests of hardcore gamers. The fact that the system doesn't have much 3rd party support doesn't somehow make that not true. There are a number of amazing hardcore exclusives for Wiiu. People just don't care.
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Trying to appease Nintendo fans isn't hardcore, it's doing what every console/company does to keep those who buy their products loyal.
Hardcore is probably the wrong term now that I think of it. Nintendo have lacked that ability to capture a variety of gamers for years now and the idea of the Wii u was to change that. But, again, they decided to ignore that cry and go the gimmick route. This, is Nintendo's biggest flaw.
Going with that, besides Bayonetta, Zombiu, Fatal Frame and Xenoblade, their efforts have been pretty meh. The less said about the abomination that is Starfox Zero, the better.
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Every game that got everyone hyped this year was absent form the WiiU.
Witcher 3
MGS V
Fallout 4
That's what people are buying.
I'd hardly list Splatoon and Mario Maker on an harcore list, and they are the only good game that came out so far this year. They don't hold a candle to the three above.
Not only that, the WiiU costs nearly as much as an Xbox One (which also has Halo and Forza, two system sellers).
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The less said about the abomination that is Starfox Zero, the better.
oh you mean the game that isn't even out yet? Nintendo can't win. Everyone begged for years for Star Fox and now that it's forthcoming, people couldn't be more critical of any little concept that doesn't look perfect to them.
Every game that got everyone hyped this year was absent form the WiiU.
Witcher 3
MGS V
Fallout 4
That's what people are buying.
I'd hardly list Splatoon and Mario Maker on an harcore list, and they are the only good game that came out so far this year. They don't hold a candle to the three above.
Not only that, the WiiU costs nearly as much as an Xbox One (which also has Halo and Forza, two system sellers).
hahahaha oh man. You guys are too much. So if a system doesn't have a gritty/mature open world styled game on it it's suddenly not worth your time? Why do you guys even like video games?
News flash, you can own more than one system and enjoy marvelous games of all kinds from many different kinds of developers. Splatoon provides a fun experience that is unique to itself. The same can be said for Fallout 4. They're both great games and neither is more "HARDCOREXXX" than the other. Splatoon is not a casual game, let me just say that.
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hahahaha oh man. You guys are too much. So if a system doesn't have a gritty/mature open world styled game on it it's suddenly not worth your time? Why do you guys even like video games?
News flash, you can own more than one system and enjoy marvelous games of all kinds from many different kinds of developers. Splatoon provides a fun experience that is unique to itself. The same can be said for Fallout 4. They're both great games and neither is more "HARDCOREXXX" than the other. Splatoon is not a casual game, let me just say that.
I think what they are trying to say is that the Wii U and Nintendo aren't catering to the masses and it's actually hurting them because of it. I love Splatoon and I think it's the most addicting and original game this generation, but it's not a system seller unfortunately.
People like Mario, but they also like Madden, Tomb Raider, Fallout, Arkham series, MGS, Destiny, and whatever high profile 3rd party series that's advertised like crazy. Why would the average joe choose the Wii U and miss all these other games?
Not everybody wants to spend money on multiple systems when they could just buy one which has all the big games. If the Wii U had the same power as Xbox One and PS4, the combination of first-party plus 3rd-party content would have made Nintendo unstoppable. Instead, they chose to alienate more people. They're not giving the people what they want. :P
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The Wii U is the worst console to come out since...I dont know, the 3DO/Atari Jaguar maybe?
I mean, every console since the 6th Generation offered something significant, either with a library that slams the competetion or moving the medium forward.
Not like I am too impressed by PS4/Xbone either...but at least their existence is logical and justifiable.
If the Wii U never existed, the gaming world would not be different.
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And the worst part is that Nintendo is doing absolutely nothing to try to fix the situation. At least with the GameCube they dropped the price to $99 two years into it's life cycle to try to gain traction. The Wii U still has outrageous prices on the eShop (especially with the VC games), no games on the horizon, barely any advertising during highly watched broadcasts like NFL games, etc. It's like even Nintendo themselves don't care about the console anymore.
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oh you mean the game that isn't even out yet? Nintendo can't win. Everyone begged for years for Star Fox and now that it's forthcoming, people couldn't be more critical of any little concept that doesn't look perfect to them.
hahahaha oh man. You guys are too much. So if a system doesn't have a gritty/mature open world styled game on it it's suddenly not worth your time? Why do you guys even like video games?
News flash, you can own more than one system and enjoy marvelous games of all kinds from many different kinds of developers. Splatoon provides a fun experience that is unique to itself. The same can be said for Fallout 4. They're both great games and neither is more "HARDCOREXXX" than the other. Splatoon is not a casual game, let me just say that.
I agree. Nintendo offer great games. But as others have said, they don't appeal to a huge chunk of gamers as they miss out on huge - even goty material - games. I'd love to see them do a console that did both. That would be fantastic in my opinion.
As for Starfox Zero, you must not have been following the desires for the sequel very well. We've had sequels since Starfox 64, but none of them have carried on with the 64 style. They finally say they're going to and this is what we're got. Another gimmick awkward controlled mess that's empty due to the design choices.
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The Wii U is the worst console to come out since...I dont know, the 3DO/Atari Jaguar maybe?
I mean, every console since the 6th Generation offered something significant, either with a library that slams the competetion or moving the medium forward.
Not like I am too impressed by PS4/Xbone either...but at least their existence is logical and justifiable.
If the Wii U never existed, the gaming world would not be different.
Do you own a Wii U? For me its even better than than its predecessor the wii and arguebly the gamecube as well when all is said and done
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Do you own a Wii U? For me its even better than than its predecessor the wii and arguebly the gamecube as well when all is said and done
Hardly. Both the GCube and Wii had some 3rd party support. Not to mention that while the Wii was a casualfest they still had some decent IP's on it. Franchises that even the Wii U has missed out on, ie Resident Evil/Legit 3D Mario/Metroid/Final Fantasty, etc.
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Hardly. Both the GCube and Wii had some 3rd party support. Not to mention that while the Wii was a casualfest they still had some decent IP's on it. Franchises that even the Wii U has missed out on, ie Resident Evil/Legit 3D Mario/Metroid/Final Fantasty, etc.
Good points. I guess its all relative. All 3rd party games on wii for example fell flat or werent really worthwhile except for resident evil 4. Its hard to beat a godly combo like mario galaxy 1&2 however
Skies of arcadia also came out on it so thats automatically a huge plus. I have my reason why I like the WII U overall better than the n64/cube/wii. Which will all come down to lists etc, which is a pretty tiring way of discussing so im just gonna leave it at that. Its all relative as I said. Ultimatelly I think that I got most fun out of the wii u compared to the other consoles. I didnt have an n64, but the gamecube and wii overall werent that special in hindsight. I had a huge backlog for them as well and I like to mix my games up a bit. I go through some gamecube or wii games every once in a while to catch up on some of them. A lot of it just isnt that great. Mario sunshine is one i've tried to finish multiple times and its just tedious. But the good ones definitly surpass anything thats on WII U. For example metroid prime 1&2 beats anything i've played on WII U. So are mario galaxy 1&2. Wii U still doesnt have a game that surpasses those yet. The WII U still has some great games coming out so who knows.
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People like Mario, but they also like Madden, Tomb Raider, Fallout, Arkham series, MGS, Destiny, and whatever high profile 3rd party series that's advertised like crazy. Why would the average joe choose the Wii U and miss all these other games?
This is exactly the point.
I like Mario Kart and Smash. But am I buying a WiiU just to play them? Fuck no.
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Going with that, besides Bayonetta, Zombiu, Fatal Frame and Xenoblade, their efforts have been pretty meh. The less said about the abomination that is Starfox Zero, the better.
Yeah, man. Fuck making Star Fox a rail shooter again and returning it to form, where are my shitty Zelda clones plastered with Fox titties? Now that's a Star Fox game!
Anyway, the WiiU is a far better console for Nintendo fans (Except if you're a 3D Mario guy) than the Wii and the Wii was ridiculously well received because of the casual shit they managed to popularize. I could give a fuck about how badly it's doing saleswise, it's a return of focus to the fans that grew their brand. Sure, it's an anemic one and the games are coming out at a snail's pace and the NX is sure to kill whatever effort they're pouring into it but if it has good games, I'll buy it. It's not complicated. I bought one for Smash and Bayonetta 2 alone.
Which is to say, the WiiU is a shittier Gamecube (With better action games) but hey, in this day and age, that's better than nothing. Not like the echo chamber third party support polluting the Xbox and PS4 make either console worthwhile. And don't even get me started on the pedantic performance blabbering - MY COD RUNS 3.4 FPS HIGHER THAN YOUR COD AND WITH SLIGHTLY IRRELEVANT HIGHER RESOLUTION, MY CONSOLE OF CHOICE JUST WON THE WAR, ROUND'S ON ME - It all comes down to exclusive games, which are also coming at a snail's pace.
That said, Square Enix are some devious fucks by marketing the FF7 remake with exclusive content from a console that will never even get the remake in the first place, I fucking love it. But at the end of the day, it's not like Nintendo is missing out on anything, Smash is only becoming more and more of a special snowflake when it comes to crossovers. Literally nothing gets close to it. And as bizarre as this might some to some people, Smash or Mario Kart are the very definition of a system seller.
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I think cloud in smash is more of a personal love of the director himself(sakurai?) for the game. Im not sure who to give credit for the excellent portrayals of all the characters in smash, but holy crap is it done well in cloud's case. There is some deep love poured into every character's portrayal to the extent I dont see happen in main games of franchises. Megaman and Pacman are obvious examples of that as well. It just seems more than just, "oh hey lets just put this character in smash" in that regard.
Overall I think you described well how I feel about the WII U phantasos. Couldnt have said it better myself
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I know Sakurai has a set of ground rules for guest characters, I've read it somewhere. Cloud must have barely fit the bill if he's in.
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Yeah, man. Fuck making Star Fox a rail shooter again and returning it to form, where are my shitty Zelda clones plastered with Fox titties? Now that's a Star Fox game!
Anyway, the WiiU is a far better console for Nintendo fans (Except if you're a 3D Mario guy) than the Wii and the Wii was ridiculously well received because of the casual shit they managed to popularize. I could give a fuck about how badly it's doing saleswise, it's a return of focus to the fans that grew their brand. Sure, it's an anemic one and the games are coming out at a snail's pace and the NX is sure to kill whatever effort they're pouring into it but if it has good games, I'll buy it. It's not complicated. I bought one for Smash and Bayonetta 2 alone.
Which is to say, the WiiU is a shittier Gamecube (With better action games) but hey, in this day and age, that's better than nothing. Not like the echo chamber third party support polluting the Xbox and PS4 make either console worthwhile. And don't even get me started on the pedantic performance blabbering - MY COD RUNS 3.4 FPS HIGHER THAN YOUR COD AND WITH SLIGHTLY IRRELEVANT HIGHER RESOLUTION, MY CONSOLE OF CHOICE JUST WON THE WAR, ROUND'S ON ME - It all comes down to exclusive games, which are also coming at a snail's pace.
That said, Square Enix are some devious fucks by marketing the FF7 remake with exclusive content from a console that will never even get the remake in the first place, I fucking love it. But at the end of the day, it's not like Nintendo is missing out on anything, Smash is only becoming more and more of a special snowflake when it comes to crossovers. Literally nothing gets close to it. And as bizarre as this might some to some people, Smash or Mario Kart are the very definition of a system seller.
Angry fella aren't ya ;)
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The Wii U is the worst console to come out since...I dont know, the 3DO/Atari Jaguar maybe?
I mean, every console since the 6th Generation offered something significant, either with a library that slams the competetion or moving the medium forward.
Not like I am too impressed by PS4/Xbone either...but at least their existence is logical and justifiable.
If the Wii U never existed, the gaming world would not be different.
Posts like these hurt my brain. As bad as the fucking Jaguar? Really?
What is pushing the medium is subjective. I would argue that the application of the gyroscope/touchscreen in splatoon pushes the medium forward just as much as upping the resolution and framerate of a halo/CoD sequel.
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For me its even better than than its predecessor the wii and arguebly the gamecube as well when all is said and done
This I can agree with. I think the games themselves are better on the Wii U than the Wii, however, there is still reason to be concerned about how Nintendo is handling the Wii U and how it will affect their future. Fans will like the games of course, but the fact is that the sales are terrible. And if it continues like this, it will very much negatively affect them and their future output.
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Anyway, the WiiU is a far better console for Nintendo fans (Except if you're a 3D Mario guy) than the Wii and the Wii was ridiculously well received because of the casual shit they managed to popularize. I could give a fuck about how badly it's doing saleswise, it's a return of focus to the fans that grew their brand. Sure, it's an anemic one and the games are coming out at a snail's pace and the NX is sure to kill whatever effort they're pouring into it but if it has good games, I'll buy it. It's not complicated. I bought one for Smash and Bayonetta 2 alone.
Which is to say, the WiiU is a shittier Gamecube (With better action games) but hey, in this day and age, that's better than nothing. Not like the echo chamber third party support polluting the Xbox and PS4 make either console worthwhile. And don't even get me started on the pedantic performance blabbering - MY COD RUNS 3.4 FPS HIGHER THAN YOUR COD AND WITH SLIGHTLY IRRELEVANT HIGHER RESOLUTION, MY CONSOLE OF CHOICE JUST WON THE WAR, ROUND'S ON ME - It all comes down to exclusive games, which are also coming at a snail's pace.
Well that's good, don't give a fuck about how it's doing saleswise, so when Nintendo continues to falter and leaves the hardware business, don't complain.
Honestly dude, the Wii had some great games. Sure it had tons of casual garbage, but it had some damn good gems that even the Wii U wishes it had at this point. I was one of the early Wii U adopters and holy shit do i regret it. I haven't plugged my console in in months, it just sits there collecting dust. There just isn't enough compelling software coming out to keep me busy.
While the Wii U has some decent exclusives, so do others like the XBOX, which also happens to have a ton of 3rd party support. Which is something you apparently don't think is key for a Nintendo platform. As much as you wouldn't like to see, no doubt will the NX be a me-too console, they have no choice. The NX will not be manufactured with the intent of only pleasing Nintendo and their fans, it'll be manufactured with the intent of bringing in 3rd party games because it's critical.
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Well that's good, don't give a fuck about how it's doing saleswise, so when Nintendo continues to falter and leaves the hardware business, don't complain.
Honestly dude, the Wii had some great games. Sure it had tons of casual garbage, but it had some damn good gems that even the Wii U wishes it had at this point. I was one of the early Wii U adopters and holy shit do i regret it. I haven't plugged my console in in months, it just sits there collecting dust. There just isn't enough compelling software coming out to keep me busy.
While the Wii U has some decent exclusives, so do others like the XBOX, which also happens to have a ton of 3rd party support. Which is something you apparently don't think is key for a Nintendo platform. As much as you wouldn't like to see, no doubt will the NX be a me-too console, they have no choice. The NX will not be manufactured with the intent of only pleasing Nintendo and their fans, it'll be manufactured with the intent of bringing in 3rd party games because it's critical.
*jumping highfive*
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Anyone getting Xenoblade X?
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Well that's good, don't give a fuck about how it's doing saleswise, so when Nintendo continues to falter and leaves the hardware business, don't complain.
Yes. Because me not giving a fuck about sales is going to have a *devastating* effect on Nintendo's future endeavors in the hardware market. I mean, they just follow my every whim for industry references, wouldn't you know?
I bought the WiiU and all the games that interest me on the platform. I did my work as a consumer and my interest and investment stop there. If they keep making games, I couldn't care less if they're making consoles or not.
Honestly dude, the Wii had some great games.
Never said the opposite. It still doesn't deflect that the fact that:
it had tons of casual garbage
As it was aggressively pushed by Nintendo itself even if:
it had some damn good gems
which I can count with my both my hands. After the Wii's entire lifespan. As for this:
that even the Wii U wishes it had at this point.
It's entirely bullshit, unless if, like I said before, you're a 3D Mario fan as that series peaked with the Galaxy games. Most of the first party line up is either incredibly limited, not the best in their respective series (Metroid Prime 3) or just plain bad (Skyward Sword).
The Wii had the sales numbers but it was a shit console for core gamers. Kinda like the PS4, ironically enough.
I was one of the early Wii U adopters and holy shit do i regret it. I haven't plugged my console in in months, it just sits there collecting dust. There just isn't enough compelling software coming out to keep me busy.
What's this? You bought a console at launch and you immediately regret that decision since the launch line-up is dry as a fucking desert and you have to wait at least 2 years before you get a decent stack of games?
Boy, I never heard of such a thing, I tell yah what. Because damn, that PS4 and Xbone sure did have a bunch of great games to play a year after their launch! Games as far as the eye can see!
While the Wii U has some decent exclusives, so do others like the XBOX, which also happens to have a ton of 3rd party support. Which is something you apparently don't think is key for a Nintendo platform. As much as you wouldn't like to see, no doubt will the NX be a me-too console, they have no choice. The NX will not be manufactured with the intent of only pleasing Nintendo and their fans, it'll be manufactured with the intent of bringing in 3rd party games because it's critical.
Me not caring about third party support (ASSASSIN'S CREED 18 ON A NINTENDO PLATFORM?! I MEAN, *FINALLY*) and Nintendo needing third party support the same thing they are not. They can pump whatever mainstream gaming friendly console they want, I only care about Nintendo because of the games only they can make happen.
Angry fella aren't ya (http://www.segabits.com/forums/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
You don't know the half of it. But right now? Pretty swell over finally getting a proper Star Fox game.
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I bought the WiiU and all the games that interest me on the platform. I did my work as a consumer and my interest and investment stop there. If they keep making games, I couldn't care less if they're making consoles or not.
Doubt Nintendo would be the same without hardware to be honest. Considering how often they spew that hardware and software go hand in hand. I don't think their quality would be top notch if they didn't develop on their own hardware, considering they're the only ones that truly know how to tap into them 100%
It's entirely bullshit, unless if, like I said before, you're a 3D Mario fan as that series peaked with the Galaxy games. Most of the first party line up is either incredibly limited, not the best in their respective series (Metroid Prime 3) or just plain bad (Skyward Sword).
The Wii had the sales numbers but it was a shit console for core gamers. Kinda like the PS4, ironically enough.
The Wii had plenty of great software that the Wii U doesn't.
Sin & Punishment, Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3(yeah it was good), Fire Emblem, Punch Out, Red Steel 2, No More Heroes, Xenoblade Chronicles, The Last Story, etc.. Yeah, quite the variety. While the Wii U does have some good software, i don't think the quality has been as good as the Wii's offerings. Just looking at metacritic alone for Nintendo's latest installments this year. The scores on most are lower than 80's, with the exception of Splatoon and Mario Maker. That is fucking awful for Nintendo. If there was 1 thing they had above the competition, it was polish and quality. Something that i think has been going away as of late.
What's this? You bought a console at launch and you immediately regret that decision since the launch line-up is dry as a fucking desert and you have to wait at least 2 years before you get a decent stack of games?
Boy, I never heard of such a thing, I tell yah what. Because damn, that PS4 and Xbone sure did have a bunch of great games to play a year after their launch! Games as far as the eye can see!
Where did i state that i regretted it immediately due to lack of software? I regret my purchase NOW due to the lack of software and clear abandonment once the NX shows up. Pretty obvious that the NX will arrive in 2016 and if the latest Nintendo Direct is anything to go by, no new software being developed aside from StarFox and Zelda(which is NX bound, no doubt).
Me not caring about third party support (ASSASSIN'S CREED 18 ON A NINTENDO PLATFORM?! I MEAN, *FINALLY*) and Nintendo needing third party support the same thing they are not. They can pump whatever mainstream gaming friendly console they want, I only care about Nintendo because of the games only they can make happen.
That's fine, but i still don't think you understand my point. Nintendo consoles CANNOT survive on 1st party games alone. They need 3rd party games in order to survive. Every Nintendo aside from the Wii, since the SNES has bombed. Why? Lack of 3rd party games. If someone like EA or Ubisoft don't support you, best of luck to you. I would love to see yearly entries on a Nintendo platform again. I'd be all for buying 1 consoles that can satisfy my 1st and 3rd party needs, but no Nintendo platform has been able to do that in years, hence why i own an XBOX as well.
Oh and the XBOX certainly had a better 1st year line-up then the Wii U, that's for damn sure.
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"I like the WiiU personally, so it is an absolute fact that it is good, regardless of evidence."
Nintendo fans are the gaming equivalent of feminists.
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What metroid was for gamecube and what mario was for wii could be zelda for the wii u. Console is still gonna get games which as a whole could stand better against your list pirovash. For example star fox, while im not a fan, could potentially stand against sin & punishment. Zombi U to Red Steel 2. No more heroes/bayonetta 2 and wonderful101. xenoblade/xenoblade. A better fatal frame game than wii. A better donkey kong game. The last story/maybe shin megami tensei x fire emblem? Not a shitty mario kart. Not an underwhelming smash game.There's also unique games like pikmin 3, splatoon and an official fighting game beside smash, like pokken fighter.
The wii remote motion controls for games were also often miss. 3rd parties often didnt utilize it well. Nintendo neither sometimes with Zelda of all franchises
I just wanna make clear this is not me saying that the wii u is amzing. Overall its gonna be underwhelming again. Im only saying that I think its overall getting the edge in a game to game basis for me. And I think if people liked the wii, they'll like the wii u better if they bought it now. The library for a new owner is rich of great selections.
The only way I can see someone prefer wii is if one decided not to invest in the wii u. Like not getting the games because "Its already dead", in which case I dont blame the person. Its definitly a shit console then
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Those were on my top list of Wii games, although there were plenty of other solid 3rd party games like Fragile, RE Railshooters were nice, Arc Rise Fantastia, Trauma Center, Zak and Wiki, etc. While the Wii was a shitfest in terms of quality for most 3rd party, there were quite a few games that stood out. You've gotta think that with the amount of support the Wii had, there were bound to be some gems there.
Honestly though, knowing that the NX is about 1 year away. Would you invest $250 into a console that could be dead in 2 years? Probably not.